Re: [TV orNotTV] NHL Playoff Coverage Observation

[Jim Ellwanger]

On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Brad Beam  wrote:

> I live on the fringes of the Root Sports Pittsburgh umbrella – 3½ hours SW – 
> and Tuesday night, Game 1 of the Penguins series was on both Root and USA. 
> (No doubt in the city proper, Root showed the Pirates’ game instead.)

May have had it on an alternate channel, actually, on whichever providers are 
set up to carry it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NHL Playoff Coverage Observation

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> On Apr 16, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Jim Ellwanger  <mailto:train...@ellwanger.tv>> wrote:
> 
> May have had it on an alternate channel, actually, on whichever providers are 
> set up to carry it. <mailto:tvornottv%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>
> 
> Wednesday I watched the Penguins game on Root Sports. The Pens tweeted that 
> Root would carry games 1, 3, and 4 (game 2 was on NBC today). I did not think 
> of checking USA to see what they were carrying. Between periods I checked MLB 
> Network to see if they picked up the Pirates game but they had BAL-BOS 
> instead. 

By “alternate channel,” I meant an alternate Root Sports channel — e.g., on 
DirecTV, Root Sports Pittsburgh is channel 659, but they can activate 659-1 as 
an alternate if necessary.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC to cut two ad breaks from SNL

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> On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> P!ssing off Lorne and the whole gang that are already struggling to fill the 
> time slot (see that Prince tribute).

The issue discussed in the article is not that they'll have trouble filling the 
time, the issue is that they depend on the commercial breaks for costume 
changes and set moves.

I suspect they'll just produce more pre-taped bits than they already do.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Alec Baldwin hosting Match Game? No.

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> On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> No no no no no no no no, a thousand times no.
> 
> http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/apr/28/match-game-abc-alec-baldwin-celebrities-game-shows

You don't think "Match Game" should be hosted by a lech who dabbles in acting?

(The joke being that that also describes Gene Rayburn.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Alec Baldwin hosting Match Game? No.

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> On Apr 28, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> I am somewhere between Diner and Kevin. Yes, MG and Pyramid are formats I 
> would likely watch without hesitation. But the choice of both the hosts and 
> the hour-long formats give me significant pause.

Accounts from people who have been to "Pyramid" tapings seem to be that you 
shouldn't worry about how they handled the format, or about how Michael Strahan 
conducted himself.

> To get ahead of the game: Johnny Galecki, Amy Schumer (if Fey is unavailable, 
> or maybe Lauren Graham), and Tracy Morgan on the top level; Sofia Vergara, 
> Tom Bergeron, and Betty White (or bring back Fannie Flagg!) on the bottom

I've already seen Wil Wheaton on Twitter campaigning to get a slot on the 
panel. But presumably it will be taped in New York, and the celebrities will be 
mostly New York-based and/or friends of Alec (thus, I think some of your names 
are more likely than others).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Anyone want to help "Supergirl" move?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On May 12, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
> 
> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jon Delfin
> 
> >Has it happened since "Taxi"? Are you counting things like "Billy on the 
> >Street"?
>  
> 1.  This century. In fact, by my reckoning, twice (two different shows) 
> in the same year.
> 2.  No, just the major 5-6ish networks.

"Medium" and "Scrubs" are what I think you're thinking of.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Questioning national anthem before sports

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> On May 24, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> I also refuse to stand for God Bless America.

But it's the 7th-inning stretch! (I'll stand because it's the 7th-inning 
stretch, but I won't take off my hat -- seems like about half the P.A. 
announcers in MLB give that instruction for "GBA.")

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Questioning national anthem before sports

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> On May 25, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> What?  Are the Cubs and Sox the only teams that do "Take Me Out to the Ball 
> Game" for the seventh inning stretch?

No, they all do “Take Me Out to the Ball Game” during the 7th-inning stretch, 
but there are a couple of caveats:

1. MLB mandates “God Bless America” be played on Sundays, since 2002. I think 
every team does it immediately preceding “Take Me Out to the Ball Game” except 
the Cubs (who do it before the game). Some teams have played it at every game, 
although I’m not sure if any team is still doing so.

2. Some teams have their own traditional songs that are played in addition to 
“Take Me Out to the Ball Game,” such as the Orioles playing “Thank God I’m a 
Country Boy” and the Blue Jays playing some ridiculous Health Canada-sponsored 
song about exercise.

Source: I’ve been to games at 25 of the 30 current MLB stadiums.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] deception

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Jon Delfin  wrote:
> 
> You know that live shot from backstage when Colbert throws to the first 
> commercial and we see the featured guest in the wings? Last night, they 
> (accidentally?) proved that it's just as false as most of the on-air 
> conversations. That, or the ice cream guy is able to be in two places at once.

All I know is that it’s nice to finally see Brian Stack appearing as a 
character in the manner that he did on Conan’s shows for all those years.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sideline goil for Fox canned for insensitivity

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 1:23 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Deadspin (link) can tell it better than I can: "Fox Sports Florida’s sideline 
> reporter for Tampa Bay Rays and Orlando Magic broadcasts, Emily Austen, went 
> on Barstool Sports’ daily Rundown show on Thursday, and proceeded to make a 
> number of racist and anti-Semitic jokes. The Rundown, which was broadcast 
> live on Facebook Live instead of being recorded like normal, then disappeared 
> from Barstool’s Facebook page."

Since I watch Tampa Bay Rays games via MLB Extra Innings, I may well be the 
only person on this list who'd heard of her before this incident.

She was actually the backup "sideline reporter" for Rays games -- their primary 
is Todd Kalas, son of the late Harry Kalas who Bob may remember from Phillies 
broadcasts.

I assume Fox Sports Florida/Fox Sports Sun will not have a hard time finding 
another attractive blonde who is perfectly adequate at standing, holding a 
microphone, and talking.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: How often does the NFL cause CBS or FOX to cut a show from the lineup?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Pete Ahles  wrote:
> 
> I heard that it has to do with the affiliate ownership. The Fox stations are 
> independent so they want the local news at 10pm no matter what. Fox will 
> always preempt shows, although having "The OT" as a buffer makes it less 
> likely.
> 
> More CBS affiliates are "owned and operated" so CBS can push back the news.

That isn’t a factor in the differences in the way CBS and Fox handle Sunday 
night football overruns. There are 16 CBS affiliates that are 
owned-and-operated, and 17 Fox affiliates that are O&Os.

Since there’s a cap on the amount of TV stations any one entity can own 
(basically, they can only reach 39% of the country), one would expect the 
networks to own about the same number of stations.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] How often does the NFL cause CBS or FOX to cut a show from the lineup?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:23 AM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> Might mention something about NASCAR: i've seen TBS preempt reruns of "Little 
> House on the Prairie" to air a rained out race, and ESPN usually dumps 
> "SportsCenter" to air any rescheduled races. FOX moves most rained out races 
> to FS1: i've never seen ABC or NBC preempt their soaps for a rained out race, 
> but they had ESPN to fall back on. I guess ABC or NBC didn't want the hate 
> calls when a race might bump the soaps!

Because I had a job interview at the ABC affiliate in Tampa on the day after 
Memorial Day 1998, I remember that the Indianapolis 500 was rescheduled to 
Tuesday that year, and the race did air on ABC, pre-empting the soaps -- 
actually, pushing them back a day. (As I was in the lobby waiting for my 
interview, the receptionist answered several phone calls to that effect.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] How often does the NFL cause CBS or FOX to cut a show from the lineup?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> Because I had a job interview at the ABC affiliate in Tampa on the day after 
> Memorial Day 1998...

Correction: 1997.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hardware questions

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> On Jul 15, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
> 
> Which leads me to my question: do digital TVs come with antennae, or do I 
> have to purchase one separately?
>  
> And if anybody has experience with digital antennae, let me know….

You will have to purchase an antenna separately.

My only experience is with the antenna I have hooked up to my computer’s TV 
tuner device — just a plain old set of rabbit ears. It works great because it’s 
next to a window that faces the mountain where most of the L.A. TV stations 
have their transmitters (about 20 miles away).

This site seems to be a good source for antenna info: http://antennaweb.org 
 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] "We're making 'The West Wing' in baseball here"

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> "We're making 'The West Wing' in baseball here”

Ken Levine beat them to it 10 years ago:
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Dr.' Drew Leaving HLN

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> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Radical idea: Return Headline News to an actual news channel

Insert Mark Jeffries pointing out that no matter how many online commenters 
want it to be so, it’s not Headline News anymore, it’s HLN... much like despite 
the wishes of online commenters, it’s not American Movie Classics anymore, it’s 
AMC, it’s not The Learning Channel anymore, it’s TLC, and it’s not Arts & 
Entertainment anymore, it’s A&E.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie review: Pitch

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> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Diner  wrote:
> 
> All I'll say is, I hope the TV show is more interesting than a real minor 
> league game. I left during the fourth inning because it was already 8:30 pm 
> and I had to go to work the next morning. Don't think I missed much in the 
> rest of the game. The Thunder is a mediocre team, and their competition that 
> night, the Akron Rubber Ducks, wasn't much better. (I never did find out who 
> won that night.)

Your mileage may vary -- in July, I did a road trip in which I spent a week 
going to various minor-league and major-league games throughout the Midwest, 
and had a great time. Maybe except for the Louisville Bats mascot manhandling 
me, or maybe I should say man-wing-ling me (he was trying to get a kiss from me 
during the Kiss Cam).

The home teams I saw: Washington Wild Things (that's Pennsylvania), Louisville 
Bats, Cincinnati Reds, Indianapolis Indians, Lansing Lugnuts, South Bend Cubs, 
Pittsburgh Pirates.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] BBCA adding to its Trek offerings

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:28 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to everyone for reminding me of the various channels I should always 
> check for possible Trek reruns.
> 
> Once I Spy disappeared from Cozi, I really stopped paying attention to it, 
> MeTV and other channels occupying those digital TV spots (X.1, X.2, etc.) 
> opened up by the transition.  My loss.

And we haven’t even mentioned Netflix, Hulu, et al.  I think we can all agree, 
that if we went to the cast and crew of “Star Trek” in 1966 and told them about 
all the outlets on which the show would be available 50 years hence…

…they would be seriously confused about its presence on a channel called “BBC 
America.”

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Say Goodbye to Cable Box (and Pay More Money)

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> On Sep 10, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> The article is telling in so many ways.
> 
> An app is, obviously, at the mercy of the cellular networks (even with the 
> increased spectrum being swiped from TV)

Apps are not only on cell phones -- I think the FCC's vision is that you would 
run the "Comcast Xfinity" or "Charter Spectrum" app on your Roku box, Apple TV, 
Google Chromecast, Amazon Fire stick, etc., where it would live alongside 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! October Test

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> On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nor have I received the call, and I'm at least two years past my last 
> audition.  For some reason, I had it stuck in my head that I couldn't take 
> the test more than once in a 12 month period, whether or not I was in the 
> pool.

You had the right idea — that WAS the rule, but they’ve eliminated it now that 
they decided to hold the general online test in October rather than January, 
when they’ve had it every year since they instituted the online test.  I’m 
wondering if this will be a permanent move in when they hold the test, to take 
advantage of the “excitement” over the new season every September.

I’ve taken the online test every year I’ve been able, and am pretty sure I’ve 
scored over 40 each time, but haven’t been invited to an in-person audition 
since 2010. My understanding is that the invitations are randomly selected from 
those who passed the test, but a small part of me can’t help but wonder if 
they’re doing some advance screening, and they’ve decided that my personality 
is so repellent that there’s no way they’ll ever put me on the show.  (I did 
four in-person auditions in the pre-online test era, and two more afterwards, I 
think in 2008 and 2010.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Off topic: Vegas

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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> I'm not a fan of Vegas. Too much sizzle, not enough steak. 
> 
> If you find yourself stuck in that town again, the Carol Shelby custom shop 
> offers free tours several days a week. If you are at all interested in cars, 
> it is worth checking out. 

And the Pinball Hall of Fame offers a bunch of devices that I, for one, would 
much rather put coins into than slot machines.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jeopardy! October Test

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> On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Bill Partsch  wrote:
> 
> Follow up: I've yet to select a test date, as I have not noticed where I am 
> supposed to do so. Did I overlook something? If you nice people are already 
> set date-wise, I'll email the gods of Jeopardy! 

No, there’s no place where you notify them of your choice. You can just log in 
and take the test on any of the three dates/times they’re giving it: Tuesday, 
October 4 at 8:00 Eastern; Wednesday, October 5 at 8:00 Central; Thursday, 
October 6 at 8:00 Pacific.  (Even though I’m in the Pacific time zone, I’ve 
always taken the “Central” test because 6:00 works better with my schedule.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] KTLA to carry Scully's last two series of year

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> On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:22 AM, PGage  wrote:
> But, I can't believe they have not figured it how to get that Dodger channel 
> thing worked out yet. And while this is a nice thing to do for the fans in 
> LA, the stated reason that it will convince locals to demand SportsNet seems 
> ridiculous; Scully's last years would have been the best possible inducement 
> for anyone who has not already been pressuring for it; his retirement is more 
> a reason to forget about it.

In fact, yesterday, as Charter announced the retirement of the Time Warner 
Cable brand in southern California, they indicated that they're going to be 
intransigent on the Dodgers channel, a local executive saying, "We would love 
to sell the channel to others, but no one has bought it -- and we are not 
giving it away. So if consumers want the Dodger channel, they'll need to 
subscribe to us to get it."

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-charter-ceo-20160920-snap-story.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Is it me or does CBS switch to a "more competitive game" more than FOX?

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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 5:16 PM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> CBS switched out of the Steelers-Eagles game for a "more competitive game" in 
> Chargers/Colts. does that happen a lot?

Many of your questions about televised sports coverage will get better answers 
here, where there are people with more expertise in the subject:
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Re: [TV orNotTV] This week's J! test

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> On Oct 6, 2016, at 8:49 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did anyone else take the plunge this week?  I think I did well enough make 
> the audition, but I still have to be randomly selected.

Yes, I took the test Tuesday night, and think I got about 40 — supposedly, 35 
puts you into the pool to be randomly selected for an audition. I’m pretty sure 
I’ve passed the test every year, but haven’t gotten invited to an audition 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: California/OSHA may require condoms in adult oriented entertainment

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> On Oct 9, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> NoHo Starbucks?   What's NoHo mean?
> 
North Hollywood.

There must still be SOME adult film production happening in L.A., since there’s 
an actress who plays in a downtown L.A.-based pinball league with me.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sounds like the zebras or CBS goofed up...

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> On Oct 9, 2016, at 5:54 PM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> That's the first time i've seen that in a while. The league is quite strict 
> on that, as you said, so maybe the referees forgot there was a promo still 
> running.

The on-field officials don’t specifically “know” there’s a promo running. 
There’s an official who stands on the sidelines who’s in communication with the 
control truck, and he’s the person the referee looks at for signals on whether 
the network is in a commercial break or not — he wears bright orange gloves to 
make him and his signals easier to spot on the sidelines; the usual signal for 
“we’re in commercial” is that he puts one arm across his chest.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] This week's J! test

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:31 AM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just a reminder that my wife, Pidge Meade, will be on the Jeopardy episode 
> that airs tonight, October 10th. 

Sad to see she wasn’t the one who uncovered the Daily Double about the name of 
the humans who were enslaved by the Houyhnhnms in “Gulliver’s Travels.”

Although maybe that was a more appropriate question for her husband.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] I noticed something about the LDS...

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> On Oct 14, 2016, at 8:05 AM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> Was thinking about it: FOX's production of the Dodgers/Nationals series was 
> really good- Kenny Albert is pretty good on baseball- and whoever did the 
> Cubs series(it wasn't Joe Buck- sinc ehe as on football) was also good too.

Matt Vasgersian was the play-by-play announcer on the Cubs-Giants series.

I spent all year watching games on one of Fox's RSNs -- the Tampa Bay Rays 
broadcasts on Fox Sports Sun -- and felt they actually did a better job 
throughout the season than Fox is doing on these playoff games. A few 
observations:

1. Rays broadcasts had the FoxTrax pitch map on-screen for every pitch, and I 
kind of grew to depend on it.

2. The between-inning breaks are longer in the postseason than in the regular 
season, and even still, Fox has been overstuffing them -- even having to 
sometimes dump out of a commercial early so as not to miss the first pitch of 
an inning. (This could be the fault of the umpires jumping the gun on the 
in-stadium countdown clock, but I never saw this issue during the regular 
season with the commercial load they had during the Rays games.)

3. I think Harold Reynolds is the new Tim McCarver -- for the most part, I 
didn't find his comments particularly interesting or insightful (there were a 
number of times he just restated pretty much what Kenny Albert had just said), 
and he had issues such as mixing up Justin Turner of the Dodgers with Trea 
Turner of the Nationals a few times.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Rules On Misleading Drug Ads

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Melissa P  wrote:
> 
> I think I was in graduate school just about the time advertising barriers 
> were coming down.  A lot a people don't remember, but years ago, advertising 
> goods and services such as eyeglasses, lawyers, prescription drugs, and even 
> funerals wasn't permitted.

One thing I've been thinking about while watching the baseball playoffs is the 
fact that there used to be no TV advertising for hard liquor -- not due to FTC 
or other national government regulations, but because the 
manufacturers/distributors had agreed to it through their industry association. 
That voluntary ban ended 20 years ago: 
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/08/business/liquor-industry-ends-its-ad-ban-in-broadcasting.html

(The broadcast networks still don't accept hard liquor ads -- although some of 
their affiliates do -- but the baseball playoffs, being on cable up until the 
World Series, are rife with liquor commercials, mostly bourbon.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Will there be a Trump TV?

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> On Oct 17, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> His brand is bolstered by his antics...

The data seem to be trending in the opposite direction.

http://digiday.com/brands/5-charts-trumps-damaged-brand-numbers/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Neal Baer working on FBI show for Fox

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> On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> The ex-"SVU" exec and writer Cathryn Humphris, pictured in this Variety 
> 
>  (link) piece, team on the tale of a hate-crime task force. Network pays a 
> penalty if it's not picked up.
> 
> B
> (Do any of you have a problem when reading variety.com, where after a few 
> seconds the page turns to blank white?  Only thing you can do is click the 
> back-a-page key in the browser, then probably hit 'stop loading' when the 
> text is visible. I've only encountered it in Firefox, haven't checked with 
> others.)

Do you not see small “Skip Ad” text (and a countdown timer) in the extreme 
upper right? The page is going to a full-screen advertisement, but if you have 
an ad blocker installed, you don’t actually see the ad.

Cathryn Humphris and I lived in the same dorm in college — we’re not regularly 
in touch these days, but it’s nice to hear about her success.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] I noticed something about the LDS...

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> On Oct 18, 2016, at 9:33 AM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> I do think the NFL could switch the early games to 12:30, but you have the 
> issue of preempting the Sunday talk shows on the West Coast.

No, you don't have that issue (the networks and the affiliates could easily 
adapt), but I don't see any reason why the NFL and the networks would want to 
change the status quo of 1:00 Eastern kickoffs.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Variety reviews BBCA telemovie "Dirk Gently's..."

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> On Oct 19, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> With Samuel Barnett as the offbeat sleuth, and Elijah Wood as his sidekick.
> 
> Great if you like really-annoying people*, writes Mo Ryan 
> 
>  (link).

It’s a series (8 episodes), not a TV-movie.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Time Warner, AT&T merger talk heats up

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Variety 
> 
>  (link): Can't tell what one sees in the other, other than just getting 
> larger to keep up with others.

Given that AT&T now fancies itself a “content provider,” it’s basically the 
same situation as the Comcast/NBC Universal merger.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Give the Devil (Joe Buck) His Due

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> On Oct 31, 2016, at 11:43 AM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> I'm not saying Smoltz is one of the great bb commentators; he relies on, and 
> then mixes, his cliches way too much for that. But he was a great starter and 
> a great reliever, and I am enjoying his insights. I actually did not hate Ron 
> Darling that much either, though he tries a little too hard to be interesting.

Still waiting for some network to team up Brian Anderson (Milwaukee Brewers 
play-by-play announcer who's also occasionally on TBS) with Brian Anderson 
(Tampa Bay Rays color commentator and former pitcher who's also occasionally on 
FS1). They're actually both pretty good.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Any words on the Cubs' win?

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> On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Bill Partsch  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2016, at 6:31 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>> 
>> But then I tend to bail by about the third innings because, well, it's very 
>> late...
> 
> Innings. Let's hear it for cricket, baby! Wherein pitchers are bowlers, 
> batters are batsmen...

A few years ago, I started noticing baseball announcers saying "hit batsman" 
instead of "hit batter." Turns out the phrase "hit batsman" is actually used a 
few times in the official MLB rules -- although "hit batter" is also used, 
seemingly interchangeably.

PDF link: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2016/official_baseball_rules.pdf

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Re: [TV orNotTV] rerun ran

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> On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:52 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Are the dates for the various series set in stone ahead of time, or do they 
> modulate depending on how long the preceding series run?  It occurs to me 
> that we had a DS go the full 5 games, a CS go to game 6 and now the WS is 
> going to game 7 - meaning that this is almost as late as the post-season 
> could run.  Is it possible the networks hedged their bets on shorter series, 
> causing the WS to end in October?

Yes, the dates for each postseason series were already set, regardless of how 
many games any previous series lasted. World Series Game 7 was always set for 
November 2 "if necessary."

Seems like in previous years, during the early portion of the World Series, Fox 
has run promos for the regular prime-time shows that would air if the later 
games were not played, with "if no baseball" graphic on screen during the 
promos. I don't remember seeing any of that this year.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Chinese business buys Dick Clark Productions for $1 billion

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> On Nov 3, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> At this point, I'm like the paperboy from Better Off Dead for dick clark 
> productions* 
> 
> *lowercase intentional, unless the Chinese finally changed it

My rule is that I’ll follow any nonstandard capitalization and/or punctuation 
rules that a company wants to use for their name IF they’re using them on the 
paychecks that I’m regularly receiving. Hence, when I worked for Yahoo from 
2006 to 2012, I was happy to write the company name as Yahoo!, with an 
exclamation point. (When I worked for them again from 2013 until this April, 
they’d changed the corporate communication guidelines and decided that the 
exclamation point should no longer be used in plain text.)

So I don’t know why you’re giving them the courtesy of following their 
ridiculous lowercasing.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Cause Harvey and his gang can't have all the fun...

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> On Nov 4, 2016, at 5:41 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> And don't forget that "Extra" moved to the Fox-owned stations this fall...

It's still on KNBC in Los Angeles. Assuming the list on their website is 
reasonably up to date, it's only on a couple of Fox owned stations (I see 
WFLD/Chicago and WJBK/Detroit): http://extratv.com/page/when-its-on/

A little searching shows that WMAQ was the only NBC-owned station it left, a 
victim of a local news expansion in a time zone where there's effectively an 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] World Series Game 3 Notes

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> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> 2. It's been 13 years since I went to the Cubs NLDS and NLCS games, so I 
> can't remember, but in the World Series, the clubs give over control of 
> pretty much everything to MLB. For example, State Farm usually advertises on 
> the back of the dugout walls at Wrigley, but during the playoffs, it was 
> replaced with (I think) MLB At Bat. Even the in-stadium between-inning spots 
> are all MLB sponsors instead of Cubs sponsors.

This was the case for the Division Series and Championship Series games in all 
ballparks as well, including any static ads behind home plate or in/on the 
dugouts. (The regular outfield wall and scoreboard ads stayed.) There's a strip 
behind home plate at Progressive Field that normally reads "Progressive Field 
Progressive.com Progressive Field Progressive.com" -- it was altered by 
covering up every ".com" with "Field."

> 3. The commercial break timer was set to an an almost "why bother?" 2:55, and 
> yet Fox still wants to jam all these spots in there.

Quite a contrast from the Rays games I watched on a Fox regional network all 
during the regular season, where this was never an issue, even with a shorter 
between-innings clock.

Incidentally, this year I went to a couple of International League minor-league 
games, in which a pitch clock is being used, and I would be very happy to see 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

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> On Nov 13, 2016, at 4:45 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I was surprised that the DC affiliate opted not to censor the various 
> words that WRAL did. 

Technically, DC is an owned-and-operated station, not an affiliate — they’d be 
the least likely to engage in their own censorship.

I’d be interested to know if KSL in Sat Lake City did any local censorship of 
this episode. They didn’t even carry “SNL” for years (also eschewing NBC 
prime-time shows with content they found objectionable, such as “Hannibal"), 
and they would have had a full hour to review the content in advance of the 
Mountain time zone broadcast.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Close to the Enemy

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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Adam Bowie  > wrote:
> 
> I'm watching this - although an episode behind at the moment (Where is it 
> airing in the US Kevin?).
> 
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> I found the first episode as a free iTunes download and have bought the 
> others... not sure where (or if) it is broadcast in the US, though I assume 
> it is PBS fare. 

It apparently ran (or is running?) on the Starz premium cable channel.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] No no no no no no no no no no

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> On Dec 16, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> It will be the end of all life as we know it. 

This film was released in 2005, and yet somehow we're still living (if you call 
this living):
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Trump taunts Schwarzeneggar over "Apprentice" ratings

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> On Jan 7, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Mark Hamill has begun recording Trump tweets as The Joker. 
> 
> Oh my.
> 
> https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/817901534948179968

Pre-election, Billy West was reading Trump quotes as Zapp Brannigan -- sample: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uu0d_UHNa4 -- so obviously things are more 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Esquire Network transitioning to digital-only

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> On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
> 
> This is the first time I have seen it as well. I think of linear as a 
> progression on a graph but that doesn't give the term "linear cable" any 
> meaning. It might be an updated term for what was once basic cable as a 
> channel which is not on every carrier's list cannot be considered basic. So 
> it might mean not basic, like CNN or TBS, and not premium as it does not 
> require a separate subscription.

>From context, it appears they mean "linear" as the opposite of "on-demand," 
>i.e., a programming service that broadcasts as a traditional channel where one 
>program follows another on a schedule, versus a programming service that has a 
>menu of viewing options from which one can choose at their leisure.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Time shifting the Grammy Awards

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> On Feb 12, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> So I've been following the winners of the Grammy Awards on the wire for more 
> than two hours now and it is going to air st 8 pm eastern/5 pm. west coast, 
> in about a half hour. Have they done time sifting like this before? 
> Does this make it easier to edit it or something? 

The awards that have been given so far, the ones referred to in the article, 
are not the major awards that are given during the “telecast” portion of the 
ceremony.

It’s akin to the “scientific and technical” Emmys (which are given out at a 
separate ceremony on a different day, whereas the Grammys give everything out 
on the same day).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bob Hope closer to being forgotten in one respect

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> On Feb 14, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Jim M  wrote:
> 
> I guess this is part of the transitional aspect of the increasing maturity of 
> TV.  Milton Berle, Jackie Gleason and Danny Thomas, icons of the 50's and 
> early '60's, are all but forgotten now, and Carson, Letterman and Martin will 
> be 
> eventually. 

I wouldn't read too much into this airport name change -- the issue is not that 
people don't know who Bob Hope was, the issue is that people don't know where 
"Bob Hope Airport" is.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Don passing on NCAA bracket

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> On Feb 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> The chances his alma mater, Penn, gets into, never mind out of, their league 
> tournament (the first ever for the Ivy League, which the Philly school will 
> host) are not too great, and nobody wants to ask him if he's ever done them 
> before... ESPN (link)

Also, there's a very good chance that Northwestern, the alma mater of a couple 
of his late-night nemeses -- Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers -- will be making 
it into the NCAA tournament for the first time ever.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore has been canceled

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> On Feb 23, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> Speculate: Can they not find someone they like to do a show at 11:30
> p.m. or are they not sure what they want to do at 11:30 p.m.?

I know they've taped a couple of pilots over the past few months that appear to 
be for potential 11:30 shows -- one was a talk show with Jim Jefferies, and I 
believe one was sports-themed.

(That said, it previously took Comedy Central a while to settle on a midnight 
show. Circa 2012, I attended two pilots for potential midnight shows -- one was 
a pop-culture roundtable-discussion show, which would have aired live, hosted 
by Paul F. Tompkins; the other was basically "Attack of the Show," hosted by 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL to live up to its name in a larger area

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> On Mar 17, 2017, at 2:36 AM, JW  wrote:
> 
> My completely uninformed guess is that, especially in this age of social 
> media, the network is willing to let SNL do its thing in prime time. (We'll 
> see how far the writers are willing to push it.)

They've had plenty of prime-time anthology specials, too, and the sky hasn't 
fallen.

Being on the West Coast and having satellite, I get TV-MA programming on basic 
cable channels starting at 7:00 P.M. (occasionally earlier) -- so it seems 
fairly quaint to be worrying about the TV-14 "SNL" airing at 8:30 instead of 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] One "Bake-Off" face will follow it to C4

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> On Mar 17, 2017, at 4:57 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Toksvig took over last year with the start of N. 

Also, Series J aired on BBC America early in 2015, but it apparently didn't do 
well (it was moved from a Thursday prime-time slot to midday Sunday during the 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Worst TV commercial ever?

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> On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> \When I saw this commercial, all I could think about is how annoying it would 
> be to have someone using this as they stand next to me while they are 
> shopping.
> 

Circa 2003, I was at a baseball game where someone seated behind me was using 
it fairly frequently. It was just as annoying as you would think.(given that I 
remember it all these years later).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Winter Games primetime: LIVE to the lower 48

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> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> "That means social media won’t be ahead of the action in any time zone…

Aside from, you know, action that NBC delays for the prime-time broadcast.

(If you’re wondering, with the time zone difference, U.S. prime-time lines up 
with the morning in South Korea.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Winter Games primetime: LIVE to the lower 48

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> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:47 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Jim...um...
> 
> "For the first time ever at a Winter Olympics, NBC will broadcast all of its 
> Olympic programming live across all time zones. Whether daytime, primetime or 
> late night..."

I am 99% certain they're referring to the fact that the BROADCAST will be live 
to all time zones, as opposed to the entire thing being delayed one hour for 
the Mountain time zone and three hours for the Pacific time zone, as has been 
the tradition.

But they're not saying that the CONTENTS of the broadcast will be 100% live. I 
can't believe they wouldn't, for example, delay the women's figure skating 
final as much as they need to in order to get it into the prime-time broadcast 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Thursday's Colbert

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One thing that was affected by the situation in Syria was Thursday’s originally 
scheduled episode of “Powerless,” which dealt with the main characters being 
stuck in the office due to a gas attack. I happened to pay particular attention 
to this because Thursday morning, the L.A. Times ran this evergreen-ish article 
about “Powerless” that described scenes from the gas-attack episode:

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Newest MST3K

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> On Apr 17, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> I have only watched the first episode, but it wasn't good. The jokes during 
> the movie were plentiful, but weren't landing. I think my biggest problem was 
> that Jonah Ray was too loopy. It might be a while before I watch a second 
> episode.

I watched the first episode with friends, and we agreed that our biggest 
problem was that they were rushing the line readings of the riffs, i.e., 
talking too fast in the theater.

I’ve since watched up to episode 6, and either they start doing a better job on 
the timing, or I’ve gotten used to it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Guest hosts on Kimmel this week

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> On May 3, 2017, at 7:23 PM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> He announced last night that it will be the 20th anniversary of his start at 
> The Daily Show. I think he said they were scheduled to be dark, and will just 
> do this show new that week (maybe anticipating a possible writer's strike?) 
> mostly as a bunch of old friends sitting around and talking.

Actually, he said that his actual “Daily Show” anniversary is June 2nd, but 
since the “Late Show” is going to be dark THAT week, he’s doing this 
anniversary show early. “Late Show” is scheduled to have new episodes all next 
week, including the “Daily Show” episode.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Question for those with some technical skills with Charter cable boxes

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Sounds like there might be some "energy saver" setting that's been triggered 
somehow. If you can't find it through the box's on-screen menus, you may have 
to figure out how to get to the "service menu" (Google for that phrase and the 
box's model number).


> On May 12, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> At work I have six TV screens in two rows of three in front of me. the top 
> row is the over-the-air signals. The bottom row are screens hooked to Charter 
> cable boxes.
> The boxes look the same. The problem is the far left box keeps timing out 
> after about six hours. Neither of the other two boxes do this. I've never had 
> satellite and I didn't have a complicated cable box the few times I had 
> cable, so I have no clue how to fix it. But it stumps everyone else I work 
> with.
> I stopped messing with it because I have royally screwed up the set up just 
> trying to turn it back on after it goes out. 
> We did find one odd fix. If we leave it on the analog cable channel instead 
> of the high-def channel it doesn't time out. 
> Anyone have an idea what to look for in the cable box to fix this?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Timeless Cancelled, then UNcancelled

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> On May 13, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Marti Lawrence  wrote:
> 
> The time travel show was cancelled, but apparently the flurry of requests to 
> keep the show, caused NBC to reconsider, and the cancellation was undone. The 
> show will return in 2018. 

Almost like someone changed the timeline somehow. Hmm.

> Being a history buff, I was quite fond of the program, especially since they 
> often touched on little-known historical facts. like the NASA women who were 
> highlighted in the movie, "Hidden Figures," who were featured on Timeless 
> before the release of the movie.

I always felt like there should have been more of a "butterfly effect" 
situation resulting from the changes they end up making (beginning with the 
pilot, and the increased number of survivors of the Hindenburg), but I know 
that can be hard to pull off in a weekly TV series, where it gets confusing for 
the viewers if they come back to 2016 and everything looks different than it 
did last week.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Timeless Cancelled, then UNcancelled

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> On May 14, 2017, at 4:21 PM, stannc  wrote:
> 
> And there was an additional James Bond novel and movie after their encounter 
> with Ian Fleming. 

Okay, okay, what I've been waiting for, since the Hindenburg landed safely in 
the pilot, is one of the travelers making an "oh, the humanity" reference (in 
the present) and being met with confusion.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CW Fall Annotated

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> On May 18, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> I was a kid when this show was on, and all I remember about it were catfights 
> where the women fell into pools, and shower scenes featuring shower doors 
> that had frosted glass covering the torso region. 
> 
> I suspect the CW version will feature at least one of those two things. 

Some 27 years ago, I was in attendance for a lecture by Robert Thompson of 
Syracuse University -- who is very often quoted in news articles as a TV/pop 
culture expert -- about the use of phallic and yonic symbols in the "Dynasty" 
opening credits.

To refresh your memory (and mine):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTA66L8rUTg
(The gushing oil well for Al Corley is the most obvious example.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] ICYMI: Corden's Opening Last Night

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> On May 23, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> ...Conan didn't say anything or if he did, it was at the end...

At the end of his show last night, Conan paid tribute to Marsh McCall, an 
original member of the "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" writing staff, who 
passed away Monday morning. (He went from Conan's show into sitcoms, including 
"Just Shoot Me!", and he'd most recently been working on "Fuller House.")

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: National news breaks at 5 PM

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> On May 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> I've always wondered; do the networks sometimes interrupt local news to do a 
> bulletin? Do they have a countdown to alert stations?

Yes -- if they feel it necessary to do a mandatory special report, they're not 
going to hold it for a time when no affiliate is doing local news.

And yes -- they're usually able to give the affiliates a couple minutes' 
warning to allow them to elegantly transition from the local broadcast into the 
network special report (I can't find any examples of this on YouTube, but 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Last Week Tonight - UK Election

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> On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> if you want to borrow my Betamax or VHS copy, email me directly.   I can dub 
> to either.

Just because you mentioned “USENET in 1988” in your other message, that doesn’t 
mean your life is now taking place in 1988.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Live cast reading of a Futurama script...

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> On Jun 20, 2017, at 7:41 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> ... streams on Facebook tonight at 8pm PST
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/Futurama/

Despite the fancy graphic, I'm almost positive they mean 8pm PDT.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Megyn's 9 AM-east show drops Sept 25th

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> 
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Announced minimally by Politico, monitored by Variety 
> 
>  (link). Live audience; spokesperson clammed up when asked if the program 
> will refer at all to "Today" or its elements.

Re subject line:  Presumably it’s going to be 9:00 in all time zones, not just 
Eastern[*], unless NBC is changing the way they broadcast the 7:00-9:00 hours 
of “Today.”

[*] Notwithstanding what certain affiliates may do to the scheduling.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] And the new Doctor Who will be...

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My Whovian friend predicts Phoebe Waller-Bridge of "Fleabag" (I'm not familiar 
with her, but my friend thinks she's wrong for the part of the Doctor.)

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> On Jul 14, 2017, at 10:07 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> The article speculates Kris Marshall (formerly of Death In Paradise) as a 
> possibility. I think he would be a good fit, bringing a sort of retro style 
> and mannerisms not unlike the second Doctor. 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:58 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>>  wrote:
>> No word yet on whether BBC America will do something related to the 
>> announcement - which they did for Capaldi's official reveal.
>> 
>> Personally, I hope they go with a woman (Hayley Atwell in particular), but 
>> I'm not holding my breath.
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> On Friday, July 14, 2017, 8:27:25 PM EDT, Kevin M. 
>>  wrote:
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>> 
>> ... revealed after the Wimbledon final 
>> 
>> http://cnet.co/2tTY2Ww
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "SET FOR LIFE" problems

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> On Jul 21, 2017, at 2:39 AM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sidebar to the sidebar (and only sorta TV) is that the CC software on MLB.TV 
> really needs an upgrade. It's next to impossible to watch/read a game without 
> some egregiously embarrassing mistakes. Of course, I can't cite any now, but 
> I see at least two or three every inning.

Pretty sure that the captions you're seeing during games is not automatically 
computer-generated, but the work of the various stenocaptioners (i.e., court 
reporters) that are employed by the various baseball broadcast outlets. As I 
recall from my captioning days, the best stenocaptioners work with 99.7% 
accuracy, which means they get 3 words out of 1,000 wrong -- which means you'll 
see an error at least every couple minutes.

I think I've still got a free preview going for MLB.tv -- I'll try to remember 
to turn on the captions today and confirm that the errors are consistent with 
the kind of errors that stenocaptioners make.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "SET FOR LIFE" problems

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> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> I think I've still got a free preview going for MLB.tv -- I'll try to 
> remember to turn on the captions today and confirm that the errors are 
> consistent with the kind of errors that stenocaptioners make.

http://imgur.com/a/PL60U

Yeah, these three screenshots in the Imgur gallery are from the pregame 
portions of the Rays (Fox Sports Sun) and Rangers (Fox Sports Southwest) 
broadcasts, and they all appear to be stenocaptioner typos: "called" instead of 
"Cobb," "wand" instead of "blonde," "buys" instead of "base." They're 
mis-strokes on their steno machine, which cause them to be "translated" as the 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: So long, (Coach) Ara Parseghian

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And crossword puzzle solvers knew him as 72 Across.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: What if...

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> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Diner  wrote:
> 
> Well, considering that they postponed the Oscars for 48 hours when Martin 
> Luther King was assassinated, and for 24 hours when President Reagan got 
> shot, I'd say yes too. 

Perhaps a more piquant comparison -- and the reason I can't believe Daniel felt 
it necessary to ask this* -- is that the 2001 Emmy Awards were postponed twice, 
first from September 16 to October 7 due to the events of 9/11, and then from 
October 7 to November 4 due to the start of the War in Afghanistan.

*Although I've seen Daniel's questions in enough online forums that I should 
probably believe anything he feels it necessary to ask.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Newseum finances floundering

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> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:58 AM, John Edwards  wrote:
> 
> They moved into a new building in DC a few years ago.

I went a couple years ago, and thought it was very substantial and interesting. 
I would definitely recommend it to the members of this list.

I think a big issue is that its admission charge is comparable to that charged 
by other big-city museums, but — especially given its location on Pennsylvania 
Avenue just north of the Mall — it’s competing for visitors with the 
free-admission Smithsonian museums.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> Here in Reno, there's still a minute or so to go in the game between the 
> Broncos and the Cowboys, which was delayed by lightning. It's 5:40 p.m. and 
> they're showing "The Orville" and not the game. None of this makes sense.

I see, from 506sports.com’s maps, that the primary game they were showing in 
Reno was 49ers-Seahawks. Did they actually switch to Broncos-Cowboys once that 
one was over, or did they go to “The O.T.,” the studio show? I assume the 
latter would have had frequent live look-ins on Broncos-Cowboys, but would have 
allowed them to put on “The Orville” before the game was over.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry. They were showing the full game after the other game finished.

Okay, after watching the Emmys, I got to my DVR recording of “The Orville,” 
could actually see what happened, and have an answer:  due to NFL rules, Fox 
had to cut away from the game once the Sunday night game started, at least in 
markets that were getting Broncos-Cowboys as “bonus coverage.”

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Why did FOX switch to The Orville before the game ended?

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:50 PM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> NBC has a monopoly on NFL starting at 5:00 pm (Pacific Time). This 
> occasionally (as it did today) effects the Red Zone as well. What is a little 
> unclear to me, and from this thread, is how this effects the primary game in 
> a home market. Did Dallas and Denver really have the game cut off before it 
> ended? That does not sound right. But probably everyone else did.

It wasn’t until kickoff of the Sunday night game that Fox had to cut away 
(i.e., about 5:38). I’m positive that Fox got to stay with the game until its 
conclusion in Dallas and Denver. I’m also positive that they had to cut away in 
markets that had aired the Rams-Redskins or 49ers-Seahawks. What I’m not sure 
about is the many markets besides Dallas and Denver that aired Broncos-Cowboys 
from the beginning, i.e., everything in red on this map...

http://506sports.com/2017/02-FOX-L-V2.png 


…any reports from other members of the list?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: CIN-GB delaying Discovery

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> On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:53 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> I believe you are the first person I've read with a positive impression of 
> The Orville.  This makes me think I might like a live-action Seth MacFarlane 
> vehicle.  The minute of the show I checked out so far has a production design 
> pretty consistent with TNG, FWIW.

Count me as someone else who's enjoying "The Orville." You're correct that it's 
very much like "TNG."


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tony Romo to be CBS sports analyst

[Jim Ellwanger]

I watched some of the Thursday night game on Amazon Prime with the "UK English" 
audio feed, which had soccer announcers Ross Dyer and Tommy Smyth on the call 
of the game. It had been advertised that it was specifically geared to 
international viewers who were not necessarily familiar with American football, 
although they really didn't do much explaining of the rules while I was 
watching (portions of the 1st and 2nd quarters). It was fun to hear some 
different voices and phrasings, but for next Thursday's game when "my" team is 
involved, I'll probably watch with the regular announcers.


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> Having gotten Romo twice in four days due to the Packers schedule, I would 
> say this take is more due to the fact Romo sounds genuinely excited doing his 
> analysis, which can be interpreted as a fresh voice if you're not used to it 
> (or a desire to neuter the little mongrel if you're not as much of a fan).
> 
> On Sep 29, 2017 17:22, "Steve Timko"  wrote:
> Well, I had this pop up in my timeline last night. I honestly have not paid 
> attention to the broadcasts, other than to see if they were protesting. I did 
> not have the volume up for Thursday night's game. There were several people 
> who agreed with my Facebook friend and none in dissent. What does the group 
> think? Is Romo doing a good job?
> 
> 
> ​
> 
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> Moi, April 4th:
> 
> He could just end up in the studio. The other week, Tony Gonzalez, the 
> ex-Chief and Falcon, announced he was leaving "The NFL Today." (Philly dot 
> com link)   B
> 
> And today many outlets say he will, e.g. SI's Deitsch (link), who noted that 
> Simms' son, Chris, now with Bleacher Report, broke the news to him before CBS 
> Sports chief Sean McManus did...
> 
> B
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Los Angeles loses another rock station

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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> For the rest of us who want actual variety, we still have no terrestrial 
> choice. 

Have you heard KCSN 88.5 (the Cal State Northridge station)? They recently 
expanded their reach with a simulcast on KSBR 88.5 (the Saddleback College 
station), although they may still not be receivable where you are.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

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> On Sep 30, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
> 
> I had to google what studio might have been Culver City.   I'm guessing it 
> was the local CBS affiliate.

They meant the NFL Network studios, which are in Culver City.

As previously alluded to in this thread, the L.A. CBS affiliate is at the "CBS 
Radford" studios in the Valley (the Studio City neighborhood), but used to be 
in a building called Columbia Square in Hollywood, which dated back to the 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV, till it is: Popular filmmaker to shoot locally

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> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Not sure whether M Night has heard of BWTime. I don't think two to three 
> weeks is realistic for a Bruce Willis movie.

I’m pretty sure M. Night Shyamalan is already familiar with Bruce 
Willis’s working style.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Showrunner for all the DC superhero series suspended for...

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Nov 10, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> ... you know. Andrew Kreisberg had 19 people accuse him. He's in charge of 
> SuperGirl, The Flash, Arrow, and Legends of Tomorrow. He basically IS the CW. 
>  
> 
> http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/warner-bros-sexual-harassment-andrew-kreisberg-1202612522/
>  
> 

Hmm, how fast can they get “Chilling Adventures of Sabrina” on the air to join 
“Riverdale,” and switch to an all-Archie Comics lineup?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL switchin' Saints, among others

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:37 AM, Doug Fields  wrote:
> 
> ???  That's not how I understand the rules work.  If a Tampa Bay Buccaneers 
> home game is broadcast by a station that's not our normal Fox station, we 
> don't get two stations airing the same game.  We usually get non-football 
> filler on the Fox station.  Do the rules work differently for cities with two 
> teams?  Anybody in the New York market have any experience with a situation 
> like this?

They’ve been handling things differently in Los Angeles this season than they 
normally do in New York and San Francisco, scheduling the Rams and Chargers to 
both be on the non-doubleheader network four times — this coming Sunday is the 
fourth — and in each of those weeks, also allowing two games to appear on the 
doubleheader network. In New York and San Francisco, they schedule the teams to 
play at different times on different networks (when they both have Sunday day 
games), so those markets get three games at most, two involving the local teams.

The speculation is that the NFL wanted to continue to get the TV ratings that 
come with being able to air the “best” games of the week in Los Angeles, rather 
than causing the fans to always be “stuck” with the Rams and Chargers.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL switchin' Saints, among others

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> In LA's case, only after the early game ends will that happen (the primary 
> station of the applicable net). They start on different (co-owned) stations. 
> It hasn't (AFAICT) occurred in the other cities (and I'm not expecting it 
> to).  B

Right -- when the games are on two different networks, there's no issue with 
them overlapping. But when they're on the same network -- and especially when 
it's a non-doubleheader week, which means the second game starts at 1:05 
Pacific instead of 1:25 -- there's a chance the early game will still be going 
at kickoff of the second game. Thus, starting the games on alternate channels, 
same as (for example) ESPN frequently does with college sporting events.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Showrunner for all the DC superhero series suspended for...

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 1:20 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Except...isn't "Riverdale" also Berlanti's production company?

Well, then all I can suggest for the CW is a "Charmed" spinoff in which Rose 
McGowan has lost her magic powers, but can still battle villains using social 
media.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeffrey Tambor now among the accused

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> On Nov 20, 2017, at 8:50 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Lost in all this: the long-gestating 5th season of “Arrested Development” 
> over at Netflix. Can they stay in the Jeffrey Tambor business after setting a 
> precedent with Kevin Spacey? Can the show continue without George Bluth?

Alia Shawkat claimed on Colbert’s show last week that filming had recently 
wrapped. Obviously, that doesn’t really answer the “what now?” questions.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "live on tape" my ass

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> On Dec 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Diner  wrote:
> I haven't been to many TV tapings in my life, but in the nineties I went to 
> one Letterman, one Leno, and two Conans. When I told my brother-in-law that 
> the shows I witnessed were complete shows that just taped all the way through 
> from start to finish, he was shocked.

For comparison, I went to a Wednesday “Conan” taping last year, and he did the 
Wednesday show all the way through, except for the musical guest, and then did 
just the Thursday monologue and second act (a comedy bit).

Through the magic of “Conan” sometimes posting outtakes online, this is Conan 
dealing with the absence of the musical guest from that taping: 
http://teamcoco.com/video/scraps-sturgill-simpson-intro 
  (Some of this is a 
callback to Timothy Olyphant’s interview segment, in which “Ellen” giving away 
underwear was discussed.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Major cable, satellite players raising rates noticeably

[Jim Ellwanger]

I’m on a legacy DirecTV package (with a slightly different channel lineup than 
any of the packages they currently offer), but they still manage to raise its 
price every year.


> On Dec 24, 2017, at 3:18 AM, stannc  wrote:
> 
> Charter has me on a legacy Time Warner Cable promotion that allows me to keep 
> my multi-room DVR, which Charter does t currently offer. 
> 
> They’ll probably force me off the package by the end of 2018, at which time 
> they expect to be on a single billing platform. 
> 
> -Stan 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL ratings down again this year

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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> Now that LA has not one but two teams, I know several local football fans who 
> are pissed they no longer get the “good” games so they watch with less 
> frequency 

L.A. had already been getting all the Chargers away games, as a secondary 
market for the Chargers, so I question that this is much more of an issue in 
2017 versus 2016. (2016 versus 2015, when the Rams moved here, I might agree 
with.) Obviously, it's also somewhat subjective -- the Rams and Chargers both 
finished with winning records, so one could argue that they both provided a 
number of "good" games.

There were actually four weeks when L.A. got more games than the rest of the 
country -- when both the Rams and Chargers happened to be scheduled for the 
non-doubleheader network, L.A. also got two games on the doubleheader network. 
I don't remember seeing any data on the local ratings in those weeks, which is 
too bad, because it would be very interesting.

That said, I am a fan of the Bucs, and they never aired on Sunday in L.A. this 
year -- so the only NFL I really watched in L.A. was their Thursday and their 
Monday night game.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL dropped some bombs [2S, 1F] on US

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> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:03 AM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> It was aired live on the WC, and still the F-Bomb was bleeped out, and 
> omitted (without wildcards or spaces) from the closed caption.

Yep, NBC apparently has a separate feed of the live "SNL" for the Pacific time 
zone (probably picked up by the Mountain time affiliates, too) that's on a 
5-second delay. The uses of "shithole" during "Weekend Update" were also 
silenced.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Annoying new trend on The Late Show

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jan 21, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Jon Delfin  wrote:
> 
> Exactly. It's an unnecessary lie. Nefarious gain? What gain at all?

"Live on tape" was added to the intro a few weeks before the 2016 election, and 
I recall reading that it was added specifically because the shows that had 
aired live had done better in the ratings than taped episodes.

Obviously, the ratings have gone up since, and everyone's been attributing that 
to the show's anti-Trump political stance -- but maybe it really is due to that 
"live on tape" intro!

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Annoying new trend on The Late Show

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 12:47 AM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> In the experience of both myself and my wife, "Jeopardy" taped in real time 
> with one exception; even though everything else takes the time it takes on 
> the broadcast, players get as much time as they need to calculate their Final 
> Jeopardy wagers. In my second game, one of the other players had a 
> discrepancy between what he had written down and what he told the PAs he was 
> wagering. They have to double-check it so that someone doesn't say, "Yes, I 
> know I wrote down $15,000, but I actually meant to bet $15,500."

They'll also stop tape when a contestant hits a Daily Double -- or extend a 
commercial break -- if the judges are still trying to determine if a previous 
response is acceptable. And the contestant interviews are sometimes edited for 
time.

That said, I'm sure game shows being taped in real-time is more due to the 
efforts of the producers, rather than the host. I went to a couple of "Price Is 
Right" tapings back in the Bob Barker era, and I'm positive he would have been 
very happy to drag out his interactions with the contestants. (I've only ever 
seen clips of his work on "Truth or Consequences," but I've seen it said that 
he was better on that show than he was on "Price Is Right.")

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Another item crossed off the bucket list

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> Would that be Sia?

Sia hasn't been the musical guest this season -- in fact, her most recent 
appearance was two seasons ago, on November 7, 2015, when the guest host was 
some guy named Donald Trump.

I assume Melissa was referring to SZA, who was the musical guest on the James 
Franco episode on December 9.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: A Futile and Stupid Gesture

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> “A Futile and Stupid Gesture” tells the story about the co-founder of the 
> National Lampoon, Doug Kenney. He also wrote “Animal House” and “Caddyshack.”

I really liked the self-referential narration.

Conveniently enough, if “A Futile and Stupid Gesture” makes you want to watch 
it, “Caddyshack” is also available on Netflix.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Greeting female guests on talk shows

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Jon Delfin  wrote:
> 
> Trevor Noah has been creeping me out for months now.

He gave Rose McGowan just a handshake on tonight’s “Daily Show.”

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Just curious if anyone else has FOX News on tonight

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Feb 9, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> I hope we lose every event.

No, we're supposed to WIN every event to prove an idiot Fox News executive 
wrong about our "darker, gayer, different" team. (Note that less than 10% of 
the U.S. Winter Olympics team is not white.)

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2018/02/09/fox-news-olympics-column-john-moody-deleted
 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ex-FOX News talking head mulls run for Congress

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Doug Fields  wrote:
> 
> Probably the 30th.  I think my source for “maybe the 33rd” was making a joke 
> about her character in “Clueless” living in Beverly Hills.

Lotsa luck. Both the 30th and the 33rd should be very safe for their Democratic 
incumbents in the fall (Brad Sherman and Ted Lieu, respectively), regardless of 
who's running against them.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] How many feeds do the networks use on a given night?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:30 AM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> Besides regional football, the morning news shows, which are taped outside of 
> the eastern time zone, but what if there is a special report? Do they 
> interrupted all feeds at once?

>From my days working in live closed-captioning 20 years ago:  the broadcast 
>networks basically have three feeds for on-air programming (Eastern/Central, 
>Mountain, and Pacific), and special reports would run on all feeds. When 
>affiliates are not taking network programming, they're supposed to always be 
>monitoring the appropriate network feed for their time zone, although much of 
>the time, the network is able to give them a heads-up for a special report a 
>few minutes in advance. (NBC paid the company I worked for to have a live 
>closed-captioner on standby, monitoring the Eastern feed, from 6 A.M. to 
>midnight daily.)

Sometimes when a special report interrupts a show, the networks will re-feed it 
later, for the benefit of affiliates who might have been recording it to 
broadcast later. (Such as Alaska, Hawaii, and Arizona for much of the year.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] How many feeds do the networks use on a given night?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Feb 13, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> There were a few hot buttons in the control rooms of a few of the Nightly 
> News studios that could be pressed to go live, bypassing Skypath. I know of a 
> handful of instances when those buttons were pressed accidentally; hilarity 
> ensued.

Yeah, the closed-captioner who was monitoring NBC's feed was always at the 
ready to dial in to the modem for "studio 3B" (or whichever one was being kept 
"hot" for special report purposes).

I was never entirely clear on how things were working on the video transmission 
side of things, but I do know that "Tonight Show" captions went to a modem in 
Burbank, while "Late Night" (and "Later") captions went to New York. Because 
there was a seamless transition between the shows, there was some rigamarole 
involving the backup modem in the control room and a production assistant -- by 
which I mean me -- being nervous about accidentally disconnecting the wrong 
modem at the wrong time. (The captions for the late-night shows were prepared 
in advance via an audio feed of the taping, but were sent out "live" as they 
aired.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OJ Simpson possible confession to air on Fox

[Jim Ellwanger]

> The two-hour special, with the provocative title "O.J. Simpson: The
Lost Confession?" will air 8 p.m. EST Sunday, March 11, Fox said
Thursday.

That should be 8 p.m. EDT. ("Spring forward" occurs early that
morning.)


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