[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 2, Issue 24
Already belong to TCMLink. So don't think I can register again. Oh I do
have 2 airplanes and I think only 1 is registered. But I don't have engine
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1. Sprint Nextel and Clearwire (Frank Muto)
2. Re: trango repairs (Tom DeReggi)
3. service (David Peterson)
4. service in Maine (Mike Delp)
5. Re: trango repairs (Tom DeReggi)
6. Re: Sprint Nextel and Clearwire (Tom DeReggi)
7. Re: trango repairs (Felix A. Lopez)
8. Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more after
tomorrow (Patrick Leary)
9. Re: trango repairs (JohnnyO)
10. RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more
aftertomorrow (Brad Belton)
11. RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any
moreaftertomorrow (Patrick Leary)
12. RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy
anymoreaftertomorrow (Brad Belton)
13. RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more
aftertomorrow (Patrick Leary)
14. Re: trango repairs (Travis Johnson)
15. Re: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more
aftertomorrow (Travis Johnson)
16. Re: trango repairs (Felix A. Lopez)
17. RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any
moreaftertomorrow (Gino Villarini)
18. dielectric grease (RickG)
19. dielectric grease (RickG)
20. Re: {Spam?} [WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz -
Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow (Scottie Arnett)
21. RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy
anymoreaftertomorrow (Brad Belton)
22. Re: trango repairs (George Rogato)
23. RE: dielectric grease (Drew Lentz)
24. Bison Pro Fab (Gino Villarini)
25. Re: trango repairs (Tom DeReggi)
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Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buyanymoreaftertomorrow
$1500 aps sure would hurt me. I do complete relays for less then $500 as it is (legal too!) In a few months you will be able ot roam 100% (or very close to it) my town on my service. I would love to have 5.3/5.4 for my short hops. Right now 2.4 does fine but I know that will not always be the case (even if not from interference then because I want to free it up for more roaming capacity) On 7/19/07, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do we really need super cheap APs? Be careful what you say. Yes we need cheap APs. The reason is for subscriber relay gear (2 radios, one for subscriber, one for rebroadcast AP.) As long as the mentality is APs are expensive, there will never be a cheap Relay enbaled subscriber unit (which includes an AP secondary component). The trend with new spectrum (5.4Ghz) will be how to turn every subscriber into an opportunity to serve another. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buyanymoreaftertomorrow I've heard the rumor as well, but was hoping for more concrete evidence that the product was nearing shipment. Agreed, Trango could develop an AP with both existing and new technology support. Do we really need super cheap APs? It doesn't make much if any difference in our business model if the AP costs $500 or $1500. I'd rather have a faster more able AP for $1500 than something watered down without support for existing and new technology. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow If I was Trango, I would add a 2nd rf card to the APs, allowing to maintain old customers on 5.8 and adding new to the 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow Rumor has it that Trango is just waiting FCC approval for a new triband 5ghz AP (5.3ghz, 5.4ghz and 5.8ghz). It will also have more horsepower than the current 5830, but still be backward compatible with existing SU's. Same 10Mbps bandwidth limit however. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: > I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this > rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? > > What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or > tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC > mantel...well done! > > This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. > The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly > will be sorely missed. > > Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or > tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. > > Best, > > > Brad > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more > aftertomorrow > > Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon > us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 > GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to > come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require > that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as > incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > > > > > > Would you like to
Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buyanymoreaftertomorrow
Do we really need super cheap APs? Be careful what you say. Yes we need cheap APs. The reason is for subscriber relay gear (2 radios, one for subscriber, one for rebroadcast AP.) As long as the mentality is APs are expensive, there will never be a cheap Relay enbaled subscriber unit (which includes an AP secondary component). The trend with new spectrum (5.4Ghz) will be how to turn every subscriber into an opportunity to serve another. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buyanymoreaftertomorrow I've heard the rumor as well, but was hoping for more concrete evidence that the product was nearing shipment. Agreed, Trango could develop an AP with both existing and new technology support. Do we really need super cheap APs? It doesn't make much if any difference in our business model if the AP costs $500 or $1500. I'd rather have a faster more able AP for $1500 than something watered down without support for existing and new technology. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow If I was Trango, I would add a 2nd rf card to the APs, allowing to maintain old customers on 5.8 and adding new to the 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow Rumor has it that Trango is just waiting FCC approval for a new triband 5ghz AP (5.3ghz, 5.4ghz and 5.8ghz). It will also have more horsepower than the current 5830, but still be backward compatible with existing SU's. Same 10Mbps bandwidth limit however. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC mantel...well done! This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly will be sorely missed. Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisem
Re: [WISPA] Bison Pro Fab
Gino, Well, I'd like to see it to believe it but then I would have no choice but to humbly respect, admire and praise any company that could fabricate bisons. jack Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone with experience with this company? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting FCC Part 15 Certification for Manufacturers and Service Providers Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
$350+ That makes sense. FoxAtlas- The good news for us is it has not been a big problem for us because we really haven't had many failed units. I'm surprised how long they have lasted working in the field. We keep the cases of failed ones, befor ehitting the trash bin, in case the clips break off one in the field. Not that we have many units that fail. I'm suspecting it will be more of a problem as time goes on. It would be nice to find a $100 repair cost, to help keep these things another 5 year in the air :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] trango repairs I'm talking mainly about radios we pay around $350 each for brand new at $200 for repair, we have just been piling them on a shelf... but if we could find someone to fix them for $100, it would be worth it. The FOX and Atlas units we just throw in the garbage. :( Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Actually, if they come back repaired... Thats a pretty good price, considering from a manufactuer, that has the tools and knowledge to verify a proper repair. Atleast, if we are talking about the higher cost radios 900, 5830, APs, etc If you are referring to Fox Atlas CPEs, that sell for $200 new, I'd agree a lower priced alternative would be needed to justify repairing. But is that realistic to find, (for specialize proprietary radio equipment)? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bison Pro Fab
Anyone with experience with this company? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] dielectric grease
I have never used dielectric grease, but my weapon of choice is FastWrap from Huber-Suhner. http://www.hubersuhnerinc.com/co-ca-us/mozilla/products/hs-p-rf/hs-rf-connec tors/hs-p-rf-con-access/ca-us-p-rf-con-access-fw Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] dielectric grease My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
Travis, if it was a very common problem with all your units and you know what needs to be replaced, there's probably a company near you that does board component replacements. I know a guy who owned a company that did just this. If there is a lot of units and it's all the same parts you could get them repaired for next to nothing on a per unit basis. You have to find the company in your area that does board component replacements. George Travis Johnson wrote: I'm talking mainly about radios we pay around $350 each for brand new at $200 for repair, we have just been piling them on a shelf... but if we could find someone to fix them for $100, it would be worth it. The FOX and Atlas units we just throw in the garbage. :( Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Actually, if they come back repaired... Thats a pretty good price, considering from a manufactuer, that has the tools and knowledge to verify a proper repair. Atleast, if we are talking about the higher cost radios 900, 5830, APs, etc If you are referring to Fox Atlas CPEs, that sell for $200 new, I'd agree a lower priced alternative would be needed to justify repairing. But is that realistic to find, (for specialize proprietary radio equipment)? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow
I've heard the rumor as well, but was hoping for more concrete evidence that the product was nearing shipment. Agreed, Trango could develop an AP with both existing and new technology support. Do we really need super cheap APs? It doesn't make much if any difference in our business model if the AP costs $500 or $1500. I'd rather have a faster more able AP for $1500 than something watered down without support for existing and new technology. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow If I was Trango, I would add a 2nd rf card to the APs, allowing to maintain old customers on 5.8 and adding new to the 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow Rumor has it that Trango is just waiting FCC approval for a new triband 5ghz AP (5.3ghz, 5.4ghz and 5.8ghz). It will also have more horsepower than the current 5830, but still be backward compatible with existing SU's. Same 10Mbps bandwidth limit however. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: > I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this > rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? > > What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or > tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC > mantel...well done! > > This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. > The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly > will be sorely missed. > > Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or > tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. > > Best, > > > Brad > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more > aftertomorrow > > Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon > us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 > GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to > come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require > that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as > incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > > > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at
Re: {Spam?} [WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow
OK, disregard my last post. What will they do about all these people selling gear on ebay that is being affected? -- Original Message -- From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:07:45 -0700 >[sorry for the cross posting, but the points are worth being widely >distributed] > >Paul, >Alvarion's interpretation is the same as Trango's, such that IF you as >an operator have the units in your inventory, then you can put them up >without too much worry (though the FCC has not said this is okay or not >okay, it is a plausible and reasonable conclusion). But resellers cannot >sell existing stock; they will have to do a stock rotation back to the >vendor. > >The point about grandfathered nature of deployed units is also correct, >though it mean you CANNOT buy legacy CPE to populate existing sectors -- >AUs that are up now cannot get more subscribers UNLESS the new units >comply with the new DFS2 requirement (unless you as an operator have >them on YOUR shelf already). > >All in all, it makes things a bit messy for a bit, but users of major >vendor's products don't have too much to fear. I suspect the hardest hit >will be those using systems whose vendor R&D teams are not sophisticated >enough to deal with the issue; those vendors will have to wait for their >chip supplier to solve the challenge for them. > >I can't speak for backward compatibility of most of the vendors, but it >looks like Alvarion BreezeACCESS VL (and I believe Motorola Canopy also) >users will have backward compatible. > >Regards, > >Patrick Leary >AVP WISP Markets >Alvarion, Inc. >o: 650.314.2628 >c: 760.580.0080 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gerstenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:23 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [isp-wireless] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy >any more aftertomorrow > >I did recieve an email that says, "Trango is working on new products >which employ DFS/TPC and will begin shipping these systems once FCC >approval is obtained." And also that their new 45Mb PtP bridge will >also support this. Didn't have any specifics on PtMP or backwards >compatibility though. > >-Paul > >Here is the email in it's entirety: > >> From: "Trango Update" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: July 2, 2007 4:24:08 PM PDT >> Subject: REGULATORY ALERT >> >> We wanted to let you know that a new FCC regulation is going into >> effect July 20, 2007 that will affect operators' ability to deploy >> wireless equipment in the United States in the UNII band. As a >> result of this regulatory change, several Trango products are >> affected. >> >> The new FCC regulation impacts the sale of wireless equipment >> operating in the 5.25-5.35 GHz band. On July 20, 2007 only products >> that support radar detection as specified by the FCC in the >> 5.25-5.35 GHz band can be imported or marketed. Per our >> understanding, 5.3 GHz units which were purchased prior to July 20, >> 2007 can still be deployed and previously deployed networks that >> utilize 5.3 GHz are grandfathered in and do not require DFS >> upgrades after the FCC deadline. The following document on the FCC >> website describes the rules and has additional links: http:// >> www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/presentations/files/oct06/Oct_06- >> DFS_Equipment_Authorization-AL.pdf >> >> To comply with the FCC regulation, after July 20, 2007 Trango >> Broadband Wireless will no longer sell wireless systems in the >> United States which operate in the 5.25-5.35 GHz bands unless the >> system employs Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) and Transmit Power >> Control (TPC). Trango is working on new products which employ DFS/ >> TPC and will begin shipping these systems once FCC approval is >> obtained. >> >> Beginning July 20, 2007, the following Trango Broadband products >> will still be available but will only support operation in the >> 5.725 to 5.85 GHz ISM Band: >> >> M5830S-AP >> M5830S-AP-EXT >> >> M5830S-SU >> >> M5830S-SU-EXT >> >> Atlas5010-INT >> >> Atlas5010-EXT >> >> TLINK-10 >> >> TLINK-10-EXT >> >> This change will be implemented through new firmware which will be >> pre-loaded on all units (listed above) shipping from Trango >> starting on July 20. The new firmware will not allow the operator >> to select a band of operation in the 5.3 GHz band. >> >> The M5300S-FSU (5.3 GHz FOX SU) does not support 5.8 GHz operation >> and will not be shipping within the United States beginning July >> 20, 2007. We have M5300S-FSU units in stock and ready to ship if >> you are interested in beating the July 20th deadline. However, >> supply is limited and stock will be allocated on a first-come-first- >> serve basis. >> >> The new TrangoLINK-45 is a 45 Mbps multi-band point-to-point bridge >> which employs DFS for legal operation in the 5.3 and 5.4 GHz bands >> (as well as 5.8 GHz).
[WISPA] dielectric grease
My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] dielectric grease
My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow
If I was Trango, I would add a 2nd rf card to the APs, allowing to maintain old customers on 5.8 and adding new to the 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow Rumor has it that Trango is just waiting FCC approval for a new triband 5ghz AP (5.3ghz, 5.4ghz and 5.8ghz). It will also have more horsepower than the current 5830, but still be backward compatible with existing SU's. Same 10Mbps bandwidth limit however. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: > I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this > rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? > > What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or > tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC > mantel...well done! > > This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. > The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly > will be sorely missed. > > Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or > tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. > > Best, > > > Brad > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more > aftertomorrow > > Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon > us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 > GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to > come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require > that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as > incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > > > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
Travis: Isn't the other factor also that you have to buy some brands in "100 bundle pack/500 bundle " and therefore it is not as simple as just "replace with new because its cheaper than repairing"?? Regarding unrepairable Atlas and Fox, I think you can get some money at electronic recycler in your areas. We have several programs here in Silicon Valley. Felix Wireless/Utilities Practioner --- Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm talking mainly about radios we pay around $350 > each for brand > new at $200 for repair, we have just been piling > them on a shelf... > but if we could find someone to fix them for $100, > it would be worth it. > > The FOX and Atlas units we just throw in the > garbage. :( > > Travis > Microserv > > Tom DeReggi wrote: > > Actually, if they come back repaired... Thats a > pretty good price, > > considering from a manufactuer, that has the tools > and knowledge to > > verify a proper repair. > > Atleast, if we are talking about the higher cost > radios 900, 5830, > > APs, etc > > > > If you are referring to Fox Atlas CPEs, that sell > for $200 new, I'd > > agree a lower priced alternative would be needed > to justify repairing. > > But is that realistic to find, (for specialize > proprietary radio > > equipment)? > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Travis > Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA > General List" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:57 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a > reasonable rate? Trango > >> wants $200 per radio. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Travis > >> Microserv > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Would you like to see your advertisement here? > Let the WISPA Board > >> know your feelings about allowing advertisements > on the free WISPA > >> lists. The current Board is taking this under > consideration at this > >> time. We want to know your thoughts. > >> > > > >> > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / > Virus Database: > >> 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? > Let the WISPA Board > > know your feelings about allowing advertisements > on the free WISPA > > lists. The current Board is taking this under > consideration at this > > time. We want to know your thoughts. > > > > > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let > the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing > advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current > Board is taking this under consideration at this > time. We want to know your thoughts. > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow
Rumor has it that Trango is just waiting FCC approval for a new triband 5ghz AP (5.3ghz, 5.4ghz and 5.8ghz). It will also have more horsepower than the current 5830, but still be backward compatible with existing SU's. Same 10Mbps bandwidth limit however. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC mantel...well done! This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly will be sorely missed. Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
I'm talking mainly about radios we pay around $350 each for brand new at $200 for repair, we have just been piling them on a shelf... but if we could find someone to fix them for $100, it would be worth it. The FOX and Atlas units we just throw in the garbage. :( Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Actually, if they come back repaired... Thats a pretty good price, considering from a manufactuer, that has the tools and knowledge to verify a proper repair. Atleast, if we are talking about the higher cost radios 900, 5830, APs, etc If you are referring to Fox Atlas CPEs, that sell for $200 new, I'd agree a lower priced alternative would be needed to justify repairing. But is that realistic to find, (for specialize proprietary radio equipment)? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow
[sorry for the cross posting, but the points are worth being widely distributed] Paul, Alvarion's interpretation is the same as Trango's, such that IF you as an operator have the units in your inventory, then you can put them up without too much worry (though the FCC has not said this is okay or not okay, it is a plausible and reasonable conclusion). But resellers cannot sell existing stock; they will have to do a stock rotation back to the vendor. The point about grandfathered nature of deployed units is also correct, though it mean you CANNOT buy legacy CPE to populate existing sectors -- AUs that are up now cannot get more subscribers UNLESS the new units comply with the new DFS2 requirement (unless you as an operator have them on YOUR shelf already). All in all, it makes things a bit messy for a bit, but users of major vendor's products don't have too much to fear. I suspect the hardest hit will be those using systems whose vendor R&D teams are not sophisticated enough to deal with the issue; those vendors will have to wait for their chip supplier to solve the challenge for them. I can't speak for backward compatibility of most of the vendors, but it looks like Alvarion BreezeACCESS VL (and I believe Motorola Canopy also) users will have backward compatible. Regards, Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paul Gerstenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [isp-wireless] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow I did recieve an email that says, "Trango is working on new products which employ DFS/TPC and will begin shipping these systems once FCC approval is obtained." And also that their new 45Mb PtP bridge will also support this. Didn't have any specifics on PtMP or backwards compatibility though. -Paul Here is the email in it's entirety: > From: "Trango Update" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: July 2, 2007 4:24:08 PM PDT > Subject: REGULATORY ALERT > > We wanted to let you know that a new FCC regulation is going into > effect July 20, 2007 that will affect operators' ability to deploy > wireless equipment in the United States in the UNII band. As a > result of this regulatory change, several Trango products are > affected. > > The new FCC regulation impacts the sale of wireless equipment > operating in the 5.25-5.35 GHz band. On July 20, 2007 only products > that support radar detection as specified by the FCC in the > 5.25-5.35 GHz band can be imported or marketed. Per our > understanding, 5.3 GHz units which were purchased prior to July 20, > 2007 can still be deployed and previously deployed networks that > utilize 5.3 GHz are grandfathered in and do not require DFS > upgrades after the FCC deadline. The following document on the FCC > website describes the rules and has additional links: http:// > www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/presentations/files/oct06/Oct_06- > DFS_Equipment_Authorization-AL.pdf > > To comply with the FCC regulation, after July 20, 2007 Trango > Broadband Wireless will no longer sell wireless systems in the > United States which operate in the 5.25-5.35 GHz bands unless the > system employs Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) and Transmit Power > Control (TPC). Trango is working on new products which employ DFS/ > TPC and will begin shipping these systems once FCC approval is > obtained. > > Beginning July 20, 2007, the following Trango Broadband products > will still be available but will only support operation in the > 5.725 to 5.85 GHz ISM Band: > > M5830S-AP > M5830S-AP-EXT > > M5830S-SU > > M5830S-SU-EXT > > Atlas5010-INT > > Atlas5010-EXT > > TLINK-10 > > TLINK-10-EXT > > This change will be implemented through new firmware which will be > pre-loaded on all units (listed above) shipping from Trango > starting on July 20. The new firmware will not allow the operator > to select a band of operation in the 5.3 GHz band. > > The M5300S-FSU (5.3 GHz FOX SU) does not support 5.8 GHz operation > and will not be shipping within the United States beginning July > 20, 2007. We have M5300S-FSU units in stock and ready to ship if > you are interested in beating the July 20th deadline. However, > supply is limited and stock will be allocated on a first-come-first- > serve basis. > > The new TrangoLINK-45 is a 45 Mbps multi-band point-to-point bridge > which employs DFS for legal operation in the 5.3 and 5.4 GHz bands > (as well as 5.8 GHz). This product is currently undergoing FCC > certification and will be available for shipment in the United > States as soon as FCC approval is obtained. Availability date for a > DFS-enabled point-to-multipoint system will be announced at a later > date. > > If you have any questions or concerns about this regulatory change, > please feel free to contact any of the Trango support or sales > re
RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow
?? I guess you missed the at the end of my jest. Sorry you have so little room for a bit of humor. No need to continue this here. On my way out to eat... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow You have real issues Brad. The simple point is that the rule change is upon us. Debating whether or not is good is a pointless endeavor -- this has been known for YEARS and the time to debate the rule itself has long past. If you wish to waste your breath trying to provoke an argument, go for it, but I won't be baited into it. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC mantel...well done! This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly will be sorely missed. Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). ***
RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow
You have real issues Brad. The simple point is that the rule change is upon us. Debating whether or not is good is a pointless endeavor -- this has been known for YEARS and the time to debate the rule itself has long past. If you wish to waste your breath trying to provoke an argument, go for it, but I won't be baited into it. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC mantel...well done! This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly will be sorely missed. Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84).
RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow
I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC mantel...well done! This rule change does come as a disappointment to many Trango operators. The ability to flip between 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz in V or H polarity on the fly will be sorely missed. Sure has been quiet on the Trango front...hopefully they have a new dual or tri-band product with trusty dual polarity undergoing FCC certification. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
Jack - nice signature :) Did Cliff tell you to throw that in there LOL JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Jack Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs When you send us something that has been destroyed, its rather difficult to repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the manufacturer. Remember we do not charge for unrepaired units. Ezlinx.net Inc. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your adver
[WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more after tomorrow
Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz gear must now conform to the same DFS2 requirements as incoming 5.4 GHz product. I trust most of you are aware of this. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
Tom - I worked with field technicians, Call Centers and I trained Call Centers in previous life and agree with you. I think it is also a training issue and I.T. issue. I recall my Call Center/RMA standard operating procedures (SOPs) required just what you said - the more detail the better in RMA. But the actual issue was my Call Center staff didn't have enough space in the paperwork to write in more detail, or I didn't provide them enough training. There is a group that studies this: http://www.ciac-cert.org/index.cfm/AboutCIAC Felix --- Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack, > > I respect you for accepting repair jobs, where you > do not charge for > unrepaired items. There is a real cost to the intial > troubleshooting. > I think its great to have one more option for > possible repair. > > I'll share some personal insight. This is not > directed at ezlink, but al > lreapir centers in general. One of the biggest risks > in using repaired goods > is the cost to isntall the radio far exceeds the > cost of the repair, often > far greater than the cost of a new radio. So if a > board comes back not > properly repaired, but stated as repaired, its > costly to the client, and not > worth the client considering future repairs, if the > track record is not > consistent. Further, if a repair comes back stated > as unrepaired, the > client wants to know for sure whether that is a > product that needs to be > thrown in the trash or resend out to a more > competent or more willing repair > centers. For example, how does the client know that > the board was truly > blown versus a reapir center that jsut felt it > wasn;t cost effective to > investigate whether it was repairable, based on the > tools and resources he > had? These two problems are the two problems that > frustrate clients. Whats > ironic is that there is an easilly solution to this > problem, and its called > "documenting summary of work". I have found that > client want to and can > trust their repair vendors, and all that is needed > is a communication > process that shows the reapir center did their best > and what they did. The > more detailed the repair troubleshooting log is, the > more confortable the > client feels. For example, if a client reports a > problem such as "locks up > when hot", if the vendor responds, "put heat gun on > board for 30 minutes, no > lockup occurred" or "replaced FAN, no lockup for 30 > minutes", it would > infer that the repair center heard the reported > problem accurately, and > attempted to investigate the actual problem. Or > "Ethernet Chipset fried to > a crisp, no repair possible", would let a client > know clearly why its not > repairable from the specific repair center. The > client could then choose to > send it to a repair center that advertised "chipset > level repairs possible". > These are just examples. But what I hate to see, is > jsut get a radio back > that says "repaired" or "not repaired" with little > detail, because it does > not give me that cosy feeling of an answer that I > can rely on. > > I do not know ezlink's policies and proceedures, but > I'd be interesting in > hearing how Ezlink handles it. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:58 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs > > > > Victoria if you ever have response issues with us > please call me directly. > > > > > > Jack Weinberg, President > > 69 Public Square , 14th Floor > > Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 > > > > 570-823-9804 > > 1-866-439-5469 > > > > 570-823-9867 fax > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, > Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, > > Proxim and many other brands of wireless > equipment. Call us for all your > > wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of V Proffer > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:50 AM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs > > > > Oh I forgot, those are the ones I backed over with > my duly 3 or 4 times, > > lol. > > Normal wear and tear. Two, that I know of had > burnt out Ethernet ports. > > Your tech did state that one was repaired, when in > fact it was not. > > > > I guess my real issue was the fact that it took > over a month before any > > one > > even looked at them. As well as another company I > am working with had the > > same issue. > > > > Jack, we need a company like yours especially when > Trango wants outrageous > > money for repair. It would just be nice if your > company was a little more > > responsive. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Jack Weinberg > > Sent
Re: [WISPA] Sprint Nextel and Clearwire
Interesting to note that Clearwire in many cases uses Licensed Dragon wave for backhaul, and Sprint jsut recently purchased large amounts of Dragonwave stock (or something like that), and both have licensed 2.5Ghz. I think this was probably a good move for Sprint and Clearwire, and it looks like they are aligning to be a company that is ownerous toall components required to deliver the end solution, "gear", "spectrum", and "tower sites", and " company". What will be interesting to see is whether Clearwire's debt and operating costs, combined with Sprint's declining market share of cell phone and wireline data services, will burry the joint venture, even with all the synergies that exists, for them to work togeather. Personally, I think it was a smart move on both company's part to work togeather, to reduce their competition. With them being the only two real offerers of potential licensed Wimax networks, it should help their stock value escalate. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] Sprint Nextel and Clearwire Sprint Nextel and Clearwire have announced that they will jointly construct their WiMAX networks and eventually sell the services jointly under one brand. The deal still needs to gain approval by the Department of Justice and the FCC because the companies plan on exchanging selected 2.5 GHz spectrum license assignments. Under the network build-out plan, Sprint Nextel will focus its efforts primarily on geographic areas covering approximately 185 million people, including 75 percent of the people located in the 50 largest markets, while Clearwire will focus on areas covering approximately 115 million people. Initially, the two companies expect to build out network coverage to approximately 100 million people by the end of 2008, with seamless roaming enabled between the deployed areas. "Our joint efforts will result in customers benefiting from a more extensive network, operating sooner and using our respective spectrum more efficiently than either company could have on its own," said Clearwire Chief Executive Officer Ben Wolff. The companies will sell services under one brand and Clearwire will sell subscriptions to the service at Sprint locations within Clearwire's territories. Sprint plans to provide dual-mode (CDMA-WiMAX) services nationwide to its customers both on its own and Clearwire's portion of the WiMAX networks. http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/press-release-sprint-nextel-clearwire-partner-expand-deployment-first-nationwide-mobi Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
Jack, I respect you for accepting repair jobs, where you do not charge for unrepaired items. There is a real cost to the intial troubleshooting. I think its great to have one more option for possible repair. I'll share some personal insight. This is not directed at ezlink, but al lreapir centers in general. One of the biggest risks in using repaired goods is the cost to isntall the radio far exceeds the cost of the repair, often far greater than the cost of a new radio. So if a board comes back not properly repaired, but stated as repaired, its costly to the client, and not worth the client considering future repairs, if the track record is not consistent. Further, if a repair comes back stated as unrepaired, the client wants to know for sure whether that is a product that needs to be thrown in the trash or resend out to a more competent or more willing repair centers. For example, how does the client know that the board was truly blown versus a reapir center that jsut felt it wasn;t cost effective to investigate whether it was repairable, based on the tools and resources he had? These two problems are the two problems that frustrate clients. Whats ironic is that there is an easilly solution to this problem, and its called "documenting summary of work". I have found that client want to and can trust their repair vendors, and all that is needed is a communication process that shows the reapir center did their best and what they did. The more detailed the repair troubleshooting log is, the more confortable the client feels. For example, if a client reports a problem such as "locks up when hot", if the vendor responds, "put heat gun on board for 30 minutes, no lockup occurred" or "replaced FAN, no lockup for 30 minutes", it would infer that the repair center heard the reported problem accurately, and attempted to investigate the actual problem. Or "Ethernet Chipset fried to a crisp, no repair possible", would let a client know clearly why its not repairable from the specific repair center. The client could then choose to send it to a repair center that advertised "chipset level repairs possible". These are just examples. But what I hate to see, is jsut get a radio back that says "repaired" or "not repaired" with little detail, because it does not give me that cosy feeling of an answer that I can rely on. I do not know ezlink's policies and proceedures, but I'd be interesting in hearing how Ezlink handles it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jack Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Victoria if you ever have response issues with us please call me directly. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of V Proffer Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Oh I forgot, those are the ones I backed over with my duly 3 or 4 times, lol. Normal wear and tear. Two, that I know of had burnt out Ethernet ports. Your tech did state that one was repaired, when in fact it was not. I guess my real issue was the fact that it took over a month before any one even looked at them. As well as another company I am working with had the same issue. Jack, we need a company like yours especially when Trango wants outrageous money for repair. It would just be nice if your company was a little more responsive. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Weinberg Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs When you send us something that has been destroyed, its rather difficult to repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the manufacturer. Remember we do not charge for unrepaired units. Ezlinx.net Inc. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to
[WISPA] service in Maine
Does anybody have service in the area of Bristol and Bremen Maine? 6 miles NE of Bristol and 1.5 Mi East of Bremen ish. Please let me know Thanks Mike No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] service
If anyone services Muskegon, MI (Cloverville area) please hit me offlist. David No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] trango repairs
Actually, if they come back repaired... Thats a pretty good price, considering from a manufactuer, that has the tools and knowledge to verify a proper repair. Atleast, if we are talking about the higher cost radios 900, 5830, APs, etc If you are referring to Fox Atlas CPEs, that sell for $200 new, I'd agree a lower priced alternative would be needed to justify repairing. But is that realistic to find, (for specialize proprietary radio equipment)? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sprint Nextel and Clearwire
Sprint Nextel and Clearwire have announced that they will jointly construct their WiMAX networks and eventually sell the services jointly under one brand. The deal still needs to gain approval by the Department of Justice and the FCC because the companies plan on exchanging selected 2.5 GHz spectrum license assignments. Under the network build-out plan, Sprint Nextel will focus its efforts primarily on geographic areas covering approximately 185 million people, including 75 percent of the people located in the 50 largest markets, while Clearwire will focus on areas covering approximately 115 million people. Initially, the two companies expect to build out network coverage to approximately 100 million people by the end of 2008, with seamless roaming enabled between the deployed areas. "Our joint efforts will result in customers benefiting from a more extensive network, operating sooner and using our respective spectrum more efficiently than either company could have on its own," said Clearwire Chief Executive Officer Ben Wolff. The companies will sell services under one brand and Clearwire will sell subscriptions to the service at Sprint locations within Clearwire's territories. Sprint plans to provide dual-mode (CDMA-WiMAX) services nationwide to its customers both on its own and Clearwire's portion of the WiMAX networks. http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/press-release-sprint-nextel-clearwire-partner-expand-deployment-first-nationwide-mobi Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
Jack: In general, there are less troubleshooter/radio repairman training classes and vocational programs in the public school system. I had a discussion about this with my 82 year old buddy who is an old Motorola radioman and ARRL member. Part of this stems from the "buy it and chuck it and replace it with new" mentatlity. Many components in seperate are more expansive then the whole. I have an old Canopy 5.7 radio in my workshop and I think I'm going to just pull it apart and look at it to learn. But where does one "buy an ethernet femaale jack"? just one. Felix Silicon Valley --- Jack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Victoria if you ever have response issues with us > please call me directly. > > > Jack Weinberg, President > 69 Public Square , 14th Floor > Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 > > 570-823-9804 > 1-866-439-5469 > > 570-823-9867 fax > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, > Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, > Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. > Call us for all your > wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of V Proffer > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:50 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs > > Oh I forgot, those are the ones I backed over with > my duly 3 or 4 times, > lol. > Normal wear and tear. Two, that I know of had burnt > out Ethernet ports. > Your tech did state that one was repaired, when in > fact it was not. > > I guess my real issue was the fact that it took over > a month before any one > even looked at them. As well as another company I > am working with had the > same issue. > > Jack, we need a company like yours especially when > Trango wants outrageous > money for repair. It would just be nice if your > company was a little more > responsive. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jack Weinberg > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:28 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs > > When you send us something that has been destroyed, > its rather difficult to > repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the > manufacturer. Remember > we do not charge for unrepaired units. > > > > Ezlinx.net Inc. > Jack Weinberg, President > 69 Public Square , 14th Floor > Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 > > 570-823-9804 > 1-866-439-5469 > > 570-823-9867 fax > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, > Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, > Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. > Call us for all your > wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs > > I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su > and 3 Fox 5800. Over a > month later they sent them back to me, none > repaired. > > I am working with another company that is training > on the repair, may have > another option soon. > > > Victoria Proffer > www.stlbroadband.com > CEO > 314-974-5600 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs > > Travis, > > I have never sent him anything to repair for me, > but I have sold him lots > of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP > buyouts. They seemed to > be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. > > > 1-866-439-5469 > > http://store.ezlinx.net/ > > > Mac > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General > List > Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs > > Hi, > > Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a > reasonable rate? Trango wants > $200 per radio. > > Thanks, > > Travis > Microserv > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let > the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the > free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at > this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - > Release Date: 7/17/2007 > 6:30 PM > > > ---
[WISPA] Dead RF Canopy 900APC.
Hello Lists, I have a 900 Canopy APC that the RF seems to be damaged in. I can connect to it if I get within 10 feet of it, LOL, with a RSSI of about 1200. And this is with a 10 dB antenna on the AP and a 14dB antenna on the SM. I have checked everything I can think of, i.e. changed pigtails, made sure power level was at 26, reloaded firmware, default reset, different antennas. Anyone have any ideas? If it is dead, I know there are some repair places lurking on here...but do any of you repair the RF side? I also have a 900 SMC that has about the same symptoms. It will show an RSSI of 0 and bounce up to 233. It will not connect to any AP that is even within 2 feet of it. I have tried all the above with it too. Where is the best place to get Ethernet chips replaced in these modules? I see that Electrocomm shows it for $75, I called and they said that FDDI did it for them, to just call them direct. Is that about the going rate to replace these Ethernet chips? TIA for any suggestions Sincerely, Scottie Arnett President Info-ed, Inc. 615-699-3049 931-243-2101 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1542 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
I cannot comment about Trango, but we have used them in the past for Alvarion gear. Our results have been a large number returned no repair (which we were not charged for), but a large number of the "repaired" radios failing after being put back in service. Most of the time for the exact issue they were sent in for. This of course causes a number of issues. First, the actual repair costs are much higher (usually keeps 50% of the radios repaired). Second, you have a frustrated customer with a broken radio. Finally, you have a truck roll to repair. Unfortunately for us at this point we are just discarding radios and writing them off as there does not seem to be a good repair option we have found. This is my personal experiences. Larry Weidig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding
Different systems. They also do not install expensive electronic devices in those buildings at the end of the cable runs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding I agree that fiber and wireless would circumvent the issue entirely. The telco and cableco run copper from building to building. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Kenneth M. Chipps PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grounding > Do not connect buildings with copper cable, unless they are bonded to the > same single point ground system.. This is what wireless and fiber are for. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 AM > To: WISPA List > Subject: [WISPA] Grounding > > What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together > with > cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with > anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that > the > equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as placing > surge protectors on both sides or is it more complicated such as running > some 4 gauge copper alongside the cable? > > Same with an RG-6 cable. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
Victoria if you ever have response issues with us please call me directly. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of V Proffer Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Oh I forgot, those are the ones I backed over with my duly 3 or 4 times, lol. Normal wear and tear. Two, that I know of had burnt out Ethernet ports. Your tech did state that one was repaired, when in fact it was not. I guess my real issue was the fact that it took over a month before any one even looked at them. As well as another company I am working with had the same issue. Jack, we need a company like yours especially when Trango wants outrageous money for repair. It would just be nice if your company was a little more responsive. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Weinberg Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs When you send us something that has been destroyed, its rather difficult to repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the manufacturer. Remember we do not charge for unrepaired units. Ezlinx.net Inc. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
Oh I forgot, those are the ones I backed over with my duly 3 or 4 times, lol. Normal wear and tear. Two, that I know of had burnt out Ethernet ports. Your tech did state that one was repaired, when in fact it was not. I guess my real issue was the fact that it took over a month before any one even looked at them. As well as another company I am working with had the same issue. Jack, we need a company like yours especially when Trango wants outrageous money for repair. It would just be nice if your company was a little more responsive. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Weinberg Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs When you send us something that has been destroyed, its rather difficult to repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the manufacturer. Remember we do not charge for unrepaired units. Ezlinx.net Inc. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing adverti
Re: [WISPA] Grounding
I agree that fiber and wireless would circumvent the issue entirely. The telco and cableco run copper from building to building. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Kenneth M. Chipps PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grounding Do not connect buildings with copper cable, unless they are bonded to the same single point ground system.. This is what wireless and fiber are for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Grounding What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together with cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that the equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as placing surge protectors on both sides or is it more complicated such as running some 4 gauge copper alongside the cable? Same with an RG-6 cable. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding
Do not connect buildings with copper cable, unless they are bonded to the same single point ground system.. This is what wireless and fiber are for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Grounding What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together with cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that the equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as placing surge protectors on both sides or is it more complicated such as running some 4 gauge copper alongside the cable? Same with an RG-6 cable. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
When you send us something that has been destroyed, its rather difficult to repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the manufacturer. Remember we do not charge for unrepaired units. Ezlinx.net Inc. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango, Proxim and many other brands of wireless equipment. Call us for all your wireless neeeds. 1-866-439-5469. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Grounding
What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together with cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that the equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as placing surge protectors on both sides or is it more complicated such as running some 4 gauge copper alongside the cable? Same with an RG-6 cable. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
