Re: [WSG] ABC News Online have a new website
Gav... wrote: quote who=John Horner I think the inclusion of the postcodes in the tags is a little clunky, and not very intuitive. I've had no direct involvement with the makeover, but I happen to know the reasoning behind the postcodes. There are a number of different towns and cities with the same name all over Australia. Springfield for instance -- two in NSW, two in Victoria, two in Queensland and one each in SA, WA and Tasmania. I tried my Postcode of 6036 - not recognised, I then tried 4 others in surrounding Northern Suburbs, all of them were resolved to be Perth even though I am a good 40 minutes from CBD. Needs improvement in that area, maybe its not finished. Gav... The Aus Post site has an up to date list of postcodes-suburbs that includes all codes and the suburb as the post office sees it. http://www1.auspost.com.au/postcodes/index.asp?sub=2 I'm sure this is what the ABC would have used but for anyone else, its a great resource. Pity it doesn't have Geo co-ords. :( == The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential and may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are not permitted to disseminate, distribute or copy this email or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. The ABC does not represent or warrant that this transmission is secure or virus free. Before opening any attachment you should check for viruses. The ABC's liability is limited to resupplying any email and attachments == *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] ABC News Online have a new website
Gav... wrote: quote who=John Horner I think the inclusion of the postcodes in the tags is a little clunky, and not very intuitive. I've had no direct involvement with the makeover, but I happen to know the reasoning behind the postcodes. There are a number of different towns and cities with the same name all over Australia. Springfield for instance -- two in NSW, two in Victoria, two in Queensland and one each in SA, WA and Tasmania. I tried my Postcode of 6036 - not recognised, I then tried 4 others in surrounding Northern Suburbs, all of them were resolved to be Perth even though I am a good 40 minutes from CBD. Needs improvement in that area, maybe its not finished. Gav... Sorry in my other response I was also going to say that 6036 is in the auspost list as JINDALEE. Additionally you can't extract suburb from postcode because some postcodes span multiple suburbs. == The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential and may contain legally privileged or copyright material. It is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are not permitted to disseminate, distribute or copy this email or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. The ABC does not represent or warrant that this transmission is secure or virus free. Before opening any attachment you should check for viruses. The ABC's liability is limited to resupplying any email and attachments == *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
Hello all! Who, in your opinion, are the 5 best JavaScript gurus? This is a question that might seem silly, but there is actually a great deal of thought behind it. I am working on a paper at university level, that intends to describe the benefits of unobtrusive DOM-scripting, compared to old school inaccessible DHTML or badly written AJAX apps. I intend use arguments such as the leading experts say... and the most esteemed writers - such as N.N. and N.N. - argue that... A guru would be someone that has consistently lead the way through developing ground-breaking patterns and/or top notch apps and who has written about it in books and/or on the web. Someone who is regarded as a master by his (or her) peers. Some geniuses may be working in obscurity - so this is not a a competition as to who is the best developer. And yes, I realize that all answers will be subjective and IMHO... I will kick off this discussion with my list: 1. Brendan Eich - he invented the language and leads it's continual development into JS 2. Hard to ignore. 2. Douglas Crockford. JSLint, JSMin, JSON; inheritance, public/private/privileged methods... and a superb lecturer. 3. David Flanagan. Only author recommended by DC! At least until recently. But the Rhino book is still the seminal work on JS - right? 4. Dean Edwards. Inventor of numerous genial projects (Base, CSSQuery, Packer...) Nice blog that is always a learning experience to read. He tends to be read by many pros. 5. PPK. He has been running quirksmode fore quite some time now. Main author of WASP's JavaScript Manifesto. Author of the best JS book from a pedagogic POV. Apologies to anyone not on my list... @listdad: If this is off-topic, please say so. @rest: If this discussion is considered OT, you may answer me in private. Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
I read a book by Christian Heilmann on beginning javascript, I would rate him as a guru Also I would give a shout out to dan webb, also the guy from quirks mode (Sorry whoever you are) Both from what I know are big pushers of unobtrusive javascript and more up to date methodology Cheers, Cameron Singe [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/19/07, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! Who, in your opinion, are the 5 best JavaScript gurus? This is a question that might seem silly, but there is actually a great deal of thought behind it. I am working on a paper at university level, that intends to describe the benefits of unobtrusive DOM-scripting, compared to old school inaccessible DHTML or badly written AJAX apps. I intend use arguments such as the leading experts say... and the most esteemed writers - such as N.N. and N.N. - argue that... A guru would be someone that has consistently lead the way through developing ground-breaking patterns and/or top notch apps and who has written about it in books and/or on the web. Someone who is regarded as a master by his (or her) peers. Some geniuses may be working in obscurity - so this is not a a competition as to who is the best developer. And yes, I realize that all answers will be subjective and IMHO... I will kick off this discussion with my list: 1. Brendan Eich - he invented the language and leads it's continual development into JS 2. Hard to ignore. 2. Douglas Crockford. JSLint, JSMin, JSON; inheritance, public/private/privileged methods... and a superb lecturer. 3. David Flanagan. Only author recommended by DC! At least until recently. But the Rhino book is still the seminal work on JS - right? 4. Dean Edwards. Inventor of numerous genial projects (Base, CSSQuery, Packer...) Nice blog that is always a learning experience to read. He tends to be read by many pros. 5. PPK. He has been running quirksmode fore quite some time now. Main author of WASP's JavaScript Manifesto. Author of the best JS book from a pedagogic POV. Apologies to anyone not on my list... @listdad: If this is off-topic, please say so. @rest: If this discussion is considered OT, you may answer me in private. Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
Cameron Singe wrote: I read a book by Christian Heilmann on beginning javascript, I would rate him as a guru Definitely. FYI Lars, http://domscripting.com/ is Christian's hub site. Jeremy Keith should also be above most of these people as popular and populist (just under PPK, possibly) - http://adactio.com/articles/. And seeing as we might as well get back on topic, PPK and Christian Heilmann are brilliant standards advocates and accessibility gurus as well. Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
I'd like to add Gez Lemon to the list please. Kind regards, Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barney Carroll Sent: Tuesday, 19 June, 2007 12:48 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity Cameron Singe wrote: I read a book by Christian Heilmann on beginning javascript, I would rate him as a guru Definitely. FYI Lars, http://domscripting.com/ is Christian's hub site. Jeremy Keith should also be above most of these people as popular and populist (just under PPK, possibly) - http://adactio.com/articles/. And seeing as we might as well get back on topic, PPK and Christian Heilmann are brilliant standards advocates and accessibility gurus as well. Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
On 19/06/07, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely. FYI Lars, http://domscripting.com/ is Christian's hub site. No, Dom Scripting is the site for Jeremy Keith's book for JavaScript beginners. Christian's site is http://www.wait-til-i.com/ Jeremy Keith should also be above most of these people as popular and populist (just under PPK, possibly) - http://adactio.com/articles/. In terms of cutting edge work, I wouldn't list Jeremy, personally - Dean Edwards, definitely, Crockford, maybe PPK, John Resig (jQuery inventor), probably people like Dojo's Alex or Prototype's Stephen. Matthew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
Peter Paul Koch (as suggested) Dean Edwards (as suggested) Valerio Proietti: www.mootools.com James Edwards: www.brothercake.com On 19 Jun 2007, at 11:43, Keryx Web wrote: Hello all! Who, in your opinion, are the 5 best JavaScript gurus? This is a question that might seem silly, but there is actually a great deal of thought behind it. I am working on a paper at university level, that intends to describe the benefits of unobtrusive DOM-scripting, compared to old school inaccessible DHTML or badly written AJAX apps. I intend use arguments such as the leading experts say... and the most esteemed writers - such as N.N. and N.N. - argue that... A guru would be someone that has consistently lead the way through developing ground-breaking patterns and/or top notch apps and who has written about it in books and/or on the web. Someone who is regarded as a master by his (or her) peers. Some geniuses may be working in obscurity - so this is not a a competition as to who is the best developer. And yes, I realize that all answers will be subjective and IMHO... I will kick off this discussion with my list: 1. Brendan Eich - he invented the language and leads it's continual development into JS 2. Hard to ignore. 2. Douglas Crockford. JSLint, JSMin, JSON; inheritance, public/ private/privileged methods... and a superb lecturer. 3. David Flanagan. Only author recommended by DC! At least until recently. But the Rhino book is still the seminal work on JS - right? 4. Dean Edwards. Inventor of numerous genial projects (Base, CSSQuery, Packer...) Nice blog that is always a learning experience to read. He tends to be read by many pros. 5. PPK. He has been running quirksmode fore quite some time now. Main author of WASP's JavaScript Manifesto. Author of the best JS book from a pedagogic POV. Apologies to anyone not on my list... @listdad: If this is off-topic, please say so. @rest: If this discussion is considered OT, you may answer me in private. Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
Lars Your problem is going to be to get what are deemed good academic sources. As you will already know academic publications and conference papers will carry greater weight than books, especially those not peer reviewed and published as an academic work. It's who your tutor / prof is going to rate as a guru; sad as that may seem. The names mentioned are good in their field and have written books, however you may have been going more down the correct path with your original list. Find good conference papers if you can -- Regards - Rob Raising web standards : http://ele.vation.co.uk Linking in with others: http://linkedin.com/in/robkirton On 19/06/07, Frank Palinkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to add Gez Lemon to the list please. Kind regards, Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barney Carroll Sent: Tuesday, 19 June, 2007 12:48 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity Cameron Singe wrote: I read a book by Christian Heilmann on beginning javascript, I would rate him as a guru Definitely. FYI Lars, http://domscripting.com/ is Christian's hub site. Jeremy Keith should also be above most of these people as popular and populist (just under PPK, possibly) - http://adactio.com/articles/. And seeing as we might as well get back on topic, PPK and Christian Heilmann are brilliant standards advocates and accessibility gurus as well. Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] eGovernment Accessibility Toolkit released
The eGovernment Accessibility Toolkit was created for the Department for Victorian Communities, Citizen Access and Transformation Division, Victoria Online in June 2007. http://www.egov.vic.gov.au/index.php?env=-innews/detail:m1496-1-1-8-s-0:n-31 9-1-0-- It contains the following sections: - Section One: Introduction - Section Two: Accessibility basics (business case) This section covers some reasons why accessibility is important. - Section Three: How to make a web site accessible This section covers: * Building an accessible site * Making an existing site accessible * Maintaining an accessible site - Section Four: Understanding the W3C Accessibility Level A checkpoints The W3C Accessibility Guidelines will ensure that your site contains many features that will assist people with disabilities. Level A checkpoints cover some of the most difficult areas of web design and development that can make browsing a web site particularly difficult for people with disabilities. - Section Five: Quick and easy fixes Sometimes conforming to accessibility guidelines takes time. There are some quick and easy fixes that you can do that will quickly enable people to access some of the essential areas of your site. - Section Six: Top issues When attempting accessibility conformance you may find it difficult to follow some accessibility guidelines. This section covers top issues such as forms, JavaScript, PDF, colour contrast, HTML validation, page structure and layout. - Section Seven: Accessibility evaluation tools Accessibility evaluation tools can be complex and often do not include adequate documentation or instructions. This section covers how to use the more popular accessibility evaluation tools. - Section Eight: Accessibility resources A list of common accessibility resources. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] 1 pixel gap
Hi all, Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. It is happening in Firefox and Safari on Mac - the only browsers I have tested in so far. you can see there is space below the image to the right where it sticks out a bit too. http://method.com.au/test.html I have changed the doctype to HTML 4.0, I have made the image inline, position:relative, but nothing I can do seems to work. Any ideas? The 1 pixel gap does go away when the scrollbar apears on the browser window, so when there is enough content to go below the fold. Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] 1 pixel gap
Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. http://method.com.au/test.html Try reducing 'bgMain.gif' to 709px Thanks, Al *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] site check please
http://www.phillipwrayracing.com XHTML error - img tag has been opened but not closed add alt attributes to those images. Other than that nice! Thanks, Al *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap
Thanks Alex, I feel a bit daft for not noticing that myself :) It seems though, that even though this has fixed that, the problem is now occuring the other way; So when there is NO content, it displays fine and when there IS content going below the fold, it shows the 1px gap on the right now. It seems to be to do with the center alignment I think, but I can't figure out why. Any ideas? Thanks for your help On 19/06/07, Alex James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. http://method.com.au/test.html Try reducing 'bgMain.gif' to 709px Thanks, Al *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap
Sorry, there seems to be some inconsistencies now, the version on my localhost is showing the problem I just sent, yet when I put it live it doesn't occur. Both versions are using the same CSS and HTML... Anyone seen a problem like that before? It's just static HTML, so I'm guessing it wouldn't be a server thing? Cheers On 19/06/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Alex, I feel a bit daft for not noticing that myself :) It seems though, that even though this has fixed that, the problem is now occuring the other way; So when there is NO content, it displays fine and when there IS content going below the fold, it shows the 1px gap on the right now. It seems to be to do with the center alignment I think, but I can't figure out why. Any ideas? Thanks for your help On 19/06/07, Alex James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. http://method.com.au/test.html Try reducing 'bgMain.gif' to 709px Thanks, Al *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap
Umm, Forget my last post, I hadn't uploaded the image. Doh! It appears the problem is that the background image width isn't an even number, causing the alignment to change when the scrolling occurs, as it can't find exactly 50%, so it adds an extra pixel Thanks for your help. Paul On 19/06/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, there seems to be some inconsistencies now, the version on my localhost is showing the problem I just sent, yet when I put it live it doesn't occur. Both versions are using the same CSS and HTML... Anyone seen a problem like that before? It's just static HTML, so I'm guessing it wouldn't be a server thing? Cheers On 19/06/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Alex, I feel a bit daft for not noticing that myself :) It seems though, that even though this has fixed that, the problem is now occuring the other way; So when there is NO content, it displays fine and when there IS content going below the fold, it shows the 1px gap on the right now. It seems to be to do with the center alignment I think, but I can't figure out why. Any ideas? Thanks for your help On 19/06/07, Alex James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. http://method.com.au/test.html Try reducing 'bgMain.gif' to 709px Thanks, Al *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] site check please
Jermayn Parker wrote: just wondering if people can have a quick look at the following website for any major errors, suggestions etc http://www.phillipwrayracing.com It is a little slow to load. I regret that font-scaling drops the floats and/or breaks the layout. Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:33:34 +0100, Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. It is happening in Firefox and Safari on Mac - the only browsers I have tested in so far. you can see there is space below the image to the right where it sticks out a bit too. http://method.com.au/test.html I have changed the doctype to HTML 4.0, I have made the image inline, position:relative, but nothing I can do seems to work. Any ideas? The 1 pixel gap does go away when the scrollbar apears on the browser window, so when there is enough content to go below the fold. ~ Hi Paul, Your background image (white) is 710 pixels wide. I think that reducing this to 709 pixels to match the header image may fix it. BTW - Opera is putting the inline image - well - inline. It appears to the right of the text, jutting out to the right of the page. Putting it in a block element helps. I used a DIV to fix it. Adding display: block; for the image works also. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:33:34 +0100, Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Just got a 1 pixel gap at the left of my image here that is baffling me. It is happening in Firefox and Safari on Mac - the only browsers I have tested in so far. you can see there is space below the image to the right where it sticks out a bit too. http://method.com.au/test.html I have changed the doctype to HTML 4.0, I have made the image inline, position:relative, but nothing I can do seems to work. Any ideas? The 1 pixel gap does go away when the scrollbar apears on the browser window, so when there is enough content to go below the fold. ~ Hi Paul, Your background image (white) is 710 pixels wide. I think that reducing this to 709 pixels to match the header image may fix it. BTW - Opera is putting the inline image - well - inline. It appears to the right of the text, jutting out to the right of the page. Putting it in a block element helps. I used a DIV to fix it. Adding display: block; for the image works also. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Safari 2.0?!
Hello all, I downloaded the beta for Safari 3 the other day, it looks nice. Unfortunately, someone has pointed out a problem with a site I'm building and they are using version 2.0. I can't replicate the problem in the new version!! So after searching Evolt and a few other places, I can't find the original version now! They only have version 1 on offer. Does anyone know how I can get back to version 2 - the current version?! PS - on OS X, of course. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Safari 2.0?!
On 19 Jun 2007, at 20:39:44, Paul Collins wrote: I downloaded the beta for Safari 3 the other day, it looks nice. Unfortunately, someone has pointed out a problem with a site I'm building and they are using version 2.0. I can't replicate the problem in the new version!! So after searching Evolt and a few other places, I can't find the original version now! They only have version 1 on offer. Does anyone know how I can get back to version 2 - the current version?! PS - on OS X, of course. The beta download comes with an uninstall package to roll you back to your previous version of Safari. It's on the Safari3Beta.dmg you originally installed from. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Safari 2.0?!
great, done. I usually throw those things away :) Cheers for that. On 19/06/07, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Jun 2007, at 20:39:44, Paul Collins wrote: I downloaded the beta for Safari 3 the other day, it looks nice. Unfortunately, someone has pointed out a problem with a site I'm building and they are using version 2.0. I can't replicate the problem in the new version!! So after searching Evolt and a few other places, I can't find the original version now! They only have version 1 on offer. Does anyone know how I can get back to version 2 - the current version?! PS - on OS X, of course. The beta download comes with an uninstall package to roll you back to your previous version of Safari. It's on the Safari3Beta.dmg you originally installed from. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity
On 19/6/07 9:27 PM, Rob Kirton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lars Your problem is going to be to get what are deemed good academic sources. As you will already know academic publications and conference papers will carry greater weight than books, especially those not peer reviewed and published as an academic work. It's who your tutor / prof is going to rate as a guru; sad as that may seem. The names mentioned are good in their field and have written books, however you may have been going more down the correct path with your original list. Find good conference papers if you can No one¹s mentioned John Resig, developer of JQuery? -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail and all copies. The College does not guarantee that this e-mail is virus or error free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The content and opinions in this e-mail are not necessarily those of the College. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Safari 2.0?!
On Jun 20, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: PS - on OS X, of course. The beta download comes with an uninstall package to roll you back to your previous version of Safari. It's on the Safari3Beta.dmg you originally installed from. You can use the nightly WebKit builds to check out your documents in what will ultimately be Safari 3.0. Those nightly builds can co-exist nicely with Safari 2.0. http://nightly.webkit.org/ Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question, but
here it is:
I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page. This
is the CSS for my main container div:
#container {
width: 760px;
background-color: #00;
color: #00;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7. bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black. All the pixels in between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container. In the latest version of Firefox, I do not
see these two black lines.
Could someone please advise.
Thanks!
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Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect your
container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,
but
here it is:
I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.
This
is the CSS for my main container div:
#container {
width: 760px;
background-color: #00;
color: #00;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7. bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide
with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black. All the pixels in
between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container. In the latest version of Firefox, I do
not
see these two black lines.
Could someone please advise.
Thanks!
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Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
Joyce Evans wrote:
I’m new to this group, and I’m not sure if it’s okay to post a
question, but here it is:
I’ve designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home
page. This is the CSS for my main container div:
#container {
width: 760px;
background-color: #00;
color: #00;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in
Mozilla Firefox; however it appears in IE 7. bg_container.jpg is 760
px wide with the first pixel and the last pixel being black. All the
pixels in between are white, thus creating a thin black border on the
left and right hand sides of the 760 px container. In the latest
version of Firefox, I do not see these two black lines.
Hi, Joyce, and welcome.
Of course it's OK; that's what we're here for!
It's difficult to tell what the problem might be just from your post,
because you don't say whether your css is in the HTML file or a
separate css file - in any case, if you can, it's always a good idea to
post a link to a live page where we can see your code in action.
A couple of points, though:
First, your #container div has a black background, but you're filling
it with a white image file - so you'd need too be aware of any problems
this might create with legibility of the content that sits over the top
of that background;
Second, is there any reason why you're using a bg img instead of simply
using left anf right borders on the #container div?
Third, if you do need to use that image as the bg, consider a gif
instead of the jpeg. It will be a lot smaller in file size, and
sharper, too, if you knock out all the colours in it except black and
white...
HTH
Nick
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Re: [WSG] site check please
Hi Jermayn, I notice the left and right columns white background colors (or image) are overlapping the 'g-background.jpg'. You either need to may transparent color for left/right column or if background images are used, use nee to make them narrower or maybe add z-index properties. Small detail that doesn't interfer with website's function but IMHO this is what differential good and best web deisgners :). Also, the two columns collapse with two fontsize enlarge - this one really put me off because I always need to enlarge at least two time of fontsize for many sites I visit. tee On Jun 18, 2007, at 7:21 PM, Jermayn Parker wrote: Hi folks, just wondering if people can have a quick look at the following website for any major errors, suggestions etc The one thing that has given me major trouble is aligning the columns the same over browsers (I am sure I have a few gray hairs from that), so unless its horriable wrong, I am not going to worry about it, unless someone knows a fix. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
Here is the link to the incomplete home page. It's as far as I have gotten
with the CSS. The CSS file name is brookgrooves_home.css, and it is an
external style sheet, which you'll be able to download.
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/index.html
Notice that the dark lines appear to the left and the right in IE but not in
Firefox.
This is how the design sample looks prior to my programming. This is simply
one jpg file:
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/HomePageSample17e_ltGrnTitles.ht
ml
I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle the Topic and Members columns
with CSS, as well as the three columns for Popular Reads with the images of
the books. It's been painful, but I'm trying not to use tables.
Nonetheless, I'm not using a border because I need to figure out how to get
the background image to appear in Firefox. I use background images often,
and they usually aren't as simple as a border.
Thank you.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:00 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect your
container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,
but
here it is:
I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.
This
is the CSS for my main container div:
#container {
width: 760px;
background-color: #00;
color: #00;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7. bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide
with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black. All the pixels in
between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container. In the latest version of Firefox, I do
not
see these two black lines.
Could someone please advise.
Thanks!
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Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
It's as I said before. Your layout contains floated content and you
haven't cleared your floats. Adding overflow: hidden to #container will
make the borders appear in Firefox but you should do some reading up on
'clearing floats'.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:35:50 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the link to the incomplete home page. It's as far as I have
gotten
with the CSS. The CSS file name is brookgrooves_home.css, and it is an
external style sheet, which you'll be able to download.
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/index.html
Notice that the dark lines appear to the left and the right in IE but
not in
Firefox.
This is how the design sample looks prior to my programming. This is
simply
one jpg file:
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/HomePageSample17e_ltGrnTitles.ht
ml
I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle the Topic and Members
columns
with CSS, as well as the three columns for Popular Reads with the images
of
the books. It's been painful, but I'm trying not to use tables.
Nonetheless, I'm not using a border because I need to figure out how to
get
the background image to appear in Firefox. I use background images
often,
and they usually aren't as simple as a border.
Thank you.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:00 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect
your
container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,
but
here it is:
I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.
This
is the CSS for my main container div:
#container {
width: 760px;
background-color: #00;
color: #00;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in
Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7. bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide
with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black. All the pixels in
between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container. In the latest version of Firefox, I do
not
see these two black lines.
Could someone please advise.
Thanks!
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RE: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
Thank you to all who responded. I added overflow: hidden; to #container,
as suggested by John Faulds below, and I now see the background image in
Firefox, as well as IE.
I obviously have much reading/learning to do.
Thank you.
Joyce
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:56 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
It's as I said before. Your layout contains floated content and you
haven't cleared your floats. Adding overflow: hidden to #container will
make the borders appear in Firefox but you should do some reading up on
'clearing floats'.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:35:50 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the link to the incomplete home page. It's as far as I have
gotten
with the CSS. The CSS file name is brookgrooves_home.css, and it is an
external style sheet, which you'll be able to download.
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/index.html
Notice that the dark lines appear to the left and the right in IE but
not in
Firefox.
This is how the design sample looks prior to my programming. This is
simply
one jpg file:
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/HomePageSample17e_ltGrnTitles.ht
ml
I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle the Topic and Members
columns
with CSS, as well as the three columns for Popular Reads with the images
of
the books. It's been painful, but I'm trying not to use tables.
Nonetheless, I'm not using a border because I need to figure out how to
get
the background image to appear in Firefox. I use background images
often,
and they usually aren't as simple as a border.
Thank you.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:00 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox
We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect
your
container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,
but
here it is:
I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.
This
is the CSS for my main container div:
#container {
width: 760px;
background-color: #00;
color: #00;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
text-align: left;
background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in
Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7. bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide
with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black. All the pixels in
between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container. In the latest version of Firefox, I do
not
see these two black lines.
Could someone please advise.
Thanks!
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