RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-10-02 Thread David Baron
Title: RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs PROPER setups will only replace DLLs with NEWER versions. The embedded version numbering/date resource fields are checked. A setup should NEVER EVER replace a DLL with an older one. Anyone distributing such a monster should be hung from the thumbs until

[abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-29 Thread Bryancreer
Jack Campin says - > My pet hate is excessive automation. I DO NOT want the process of > installing system-critical software gizmos buried in an unreadable > script. Judging by your website, Jack, you are a highly experienced computer user. Most people aren't. A lot of people are going to be

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > James Allwright writes: > | On Fri 29 Sep 2000 at 11:54AM +0200, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: > | > > | > Actually I'm in a situation where I have a couple of friends who are most > | > insterested in using abc, but they don't have the geekines to se

RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs (long)

2000-09-29 Thread Atchley, John
Phil Taylor wrote: >As far as I can see, the Windows API allows DLLs to be placed anywhere >you like, as long as the calling program knows where to find them. >Would it not be possible to put any DLLs you install in the same >directory as the program, rather

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-29 Thread jc
James Allwright writes: | On Fri 29 Sep 2000 at 11:54AM +0200, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: | > | > Actually I'm in a situation where I have a couple of friends who are most | > insterested in using abc, but they don't have the geekines to setup stuff | > like ghostview/gvvie

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-29 Thread James Allwright
On Fri 29 Sep 2000 at 11:54AM +0200, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: > > Actually I'm in a situation where I have a couple of friends who are most > insterested in using abc, but they don't have the geekines to setup stuff > like ghostview/gvview (we're talking windows users). I think you are doing gh

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-29 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not sure I'd agree that it's off-topic. This is the "ABC users" list, > i.e., it's about a specific computerized music notation. Discussing > how to get software properly installed on users' machines strikes me > as highly relevant to such a list

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-29 Thread Phil Taylor
Bryan Creer wrote: >I'll remove comcat.dll from the package and continue to provide a Setup >because as John Atchley says - > >> Finally, it really is necessary to deliver DLLs with most windows >> applications, and to use a setup utility, because most users are not going >> to be capable of inst

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Jack Campin
> I agree that installation is an important part of software > development. Ideally, this would be an ABC *users* mailing list... Well, users oughta get to grumble about what developers give them. My pet hate is excessive automation. I DO NOT want the process of installing system-critical soft

RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Ivan L. Bradley
r vocal music, since sheet music is usually available (or can be produced) for instrumental music. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [abcusers] Distributin

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Elizabeth B. Naime
To the best of my knowledge, a Fake-Book shows the tune's melody line and chords, usually given in standard dots-on-a-staff notation. This is enough information for a musician with practice at this to "fake it", that is, to play the tune with some spur-of-the-moment harmonization or accompaniment

[abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Bryancreer
Is discussing whether or not dicussing the distribution of DLLs is off topic, off topic? (I think I'll take a lie down.) Anyway, looking at what has happened on my own PC, the installation does not appear to have overwritten the existing comcat.dll which is newer than the one supplied with VB

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Laura Conrad
> "jc" == jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jc> Not sure I'd agree that it's off-topic. This is the "ABC users" list, jc> i.e., it's about a specific computerized music notation. Discussing jc> how to get software properly installed on users' machines strikes me jc> as highl

RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread John Atchley
On Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:11 AM, Laurie Griffiths [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > John Atchley said "...Finally, it really is necessary to deliver DLLs with > most windows > applications" > > DLLs yes, but Windows System DLLs? (But this is getting off topic). > Laurie Depends on wh

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Frank Nordberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Not sure I'd agree that it's off-topic. This is the "ABC users" list, > i.e., it's about a specific computerized music notation. Discussing > how to get software properly installed on users' machines strikes me > as highly relevant to such a list. In my experie

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread jc
Laurie writes: | John Atchley said "...Finally, it really is necessary to deliver DLLs with | most windows applications" | | DLLs yes, but Windows System DLLs? (But this is getting off topic). Not sure I'd agree that it's off-topic. This is the "ABC users" list, i.e., it's about

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-28 Thread Laurie Griffiths
John Atchley said "...Finally, it really is necessary to deliver DLLs with most windows applications" DLLs yes, but Windows System DLLs? (But this is getting off topic). Laurie To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

RE: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-27 Thread John Atchley
Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > > -- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:17:55 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sub

[abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-27 Thread Bryancreer
We musn't let this topic go on too long, it isn't abc. But, showing my ignorance, are these DLLs* part of Windows or specific to VB? If the latter, I really have to distribute them because anybody who hasn't got VB won't have them. Also, I'm not too happy about the idea of fielding bug repor

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-27 Thread Phil Taylor
>[sensible stuff] >> For this reason my own personal opinion is that SHIPPING DLLs IS TO BE >> AVOIDED. > >For what it's worth, you get the same problem in the Mac environment, >with some applications (notably Microsoft ones) installing their own >versions of system extensions, often (particularly

Re: [abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-27 Thread Jack Campin
[sensible stuff] > For this reason my own personal opinion is that SHIPPING DLLs IS TO BE > AVOIDED. For what it's worth, you get the same problem in the Mac environment, with some applications (notably Microsoft ones) installing their own versions of system extensions, often (particularly with M

[abcusers] Distributing DLLs

2000-09-26 Thread Laurie Griffiths
Long post. Sorry, best I could do. Contents: THEORY MY COMMENTS ABCcheck I was in the MS Windows development team and worked on various versions of NT as well as 95 and 98. This is the way it works (or doesn't as the case may be). THEORY: Application programs are never self-conta