Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Newbie Question

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy Grip via Af
Adam-- You were at Albany, too? I was too, but I didn't register that comment; it just seemed from the official documentation that there had to be something special going on with that setting: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/file/e13730816e90878b11b3da92892de5ed74ffd88a Feel free to hit m

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Ty Featherling via Af
Yeah probably the NSA! Hahaha! -Ty On Sep 26, 2014 10:36 PM, "That One Guy via Af" wrote: > Man I bet theres some guy whose been exploiting this for 20 years who is > pissed right now > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ty Featherling via Af > wrote: > >> CentOS on some, Ubuntu on others. Alre

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Unfortunately I have a couple old servers running RHEL4 and one old BlueQuartz webhosting appliance based on CentOS4. I’m a little reluctant to try compiling the patch myself unless I switch to a difference shell first, if I screw up my command shell it might be difficult to fix. Any guess if

[AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Nate Burke via Af
I'm interested in how people are doing physical Residential VoIP Installs. Do you just provide the ATA and let the customer figure it out, or do you physically hook it into the house wiring for them? We're doing more and more, and it seems like it takes almost as much time to do the Wireless

[AFMUG] Physically hardened routers for tower installation

2014-09-27 Thread Nicholas Eastman via Af
We have been using Mikrotiks (RB110AHx2) for tower sites that we have put in place over the past couple years. With that being said, we have started to notice more and more ports failing even with surge suppression in place. I know that certain issues are unavoidable, but it has brought up the age

Re: [AFMUG] Physically hardened routers for tower installation

2014-09-27 Thread Nate Burke via Af
Do they always fail after storms, or are you just seeing ports randomly fail? I used to have ports fail after storms with the 4xx series, but with 700's, 1100's, 2011's, and CRS, haven't seen any issues. Unless the site took a direct or near hit, then all bets are off. Nate On 9/27/2014 11:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Both. He is still amazing. 87 years old. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun He has to be near 90. He still plays the trumpet? Or is he a bandleader? From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 201

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
No photos. Sorry. He is 87. You would never have guessed it. Have heard, Doc, Buddy Rich, Stan Kenton, Woody Herman and Chuck Mangione live. Some of those guys are no longer around. From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:32 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] Physically hardened routers for tower installation

2014-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Price range no. Hardened. MOXA Jaime Solorza On Sep 27, 2014 10:29 AM, "Nicholas Eastman via Af" wrote: > We have been using Mikrotiks (RB110AHx2) for tower sites that we have put > in place over the past couple years. With that being said, we have started > to notice more and more ports fail

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Yep From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun Probably. Wasn't he the band master for Johny Carson? bpOn 9/26/2014 2:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: He has to be near 90. He still plays the trumpet? Or is he a ba

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Yes? Made my lips bleed in empathy. I only hit a double high C scale one time in my life. From: Jeremy Grip via Af Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 5:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun Still hittin’ double-high C’s?? ( Sorry--old trumpet player here). Jeremy Grip

Re: [AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I will only rely on the customer to install the ATA if they are going to plug a cordless base into it, no house wiring. Otherwise, they will forget to disconnect the POTS line at the NID. Most people have a cordless phone system, but they may also have an old princess phone somewhere in the h

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy Grip via Af
One more than yours truly. :- ( From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 12:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun Yes? Made my lips bleed in empathy. I only hit a double high C scal

Re: [AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy via Af
I install every VoIP customer for no additional charge. I know the port date before it happens so I always schedule the install for that day, and let them know when we begin the process that they may be without for a few hours on the day that the porting completes. Most VoIP installs are simple,

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy via Af
Our webserver was vulnerable. Tried to fix it without backing it up firstyeah, I know. Lost it all. So I guess I will be building a new website from my 2013 backup this weekend. It's a good thing I carpet bombed my website to prevent anyone from messing with it! On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Matt via Af
Guessing... wget http://public-yum.oracle.com/repo/EnterpriseLinux/EL4/latest/i386/getPackage/bash-3.0-27.0.3.el4.i386.rpm rpmbuild --rebuild bash-3.0-27.0.3.el4.src.rpm rpm -qa |grep bash rpm -Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/bash-3.0-27.0.3.i386.rpm rpm -qa |grep bash On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
So maybe I won’t do that. The newer servers where I could just do a yum update have been straightforward, as you’d expect. I think the articles have maybe overstated the risk a bit, since you would need to either authenticate (at least as a regular user) to get to a shell, or find a publicly e

[AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-27 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
It was a fluke. Warming up for a concert. It just happened. The other guys warming up gave me a look I will remember the rest of my life. I could never repeat it. I could consistently play a high C scale and a few notes beyond, but never up to the double high C. From: Jeremy Grip via Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Did you use the pickup line “want to come back to my place and see my embouchure”? From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun It was a fluke. Warming up for a concert. It just happened. The other guys warming up

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-27 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Maybe just some LMR400? Would give you shielding, and probably handle up to 150-200 watts. bp On 9/27/2014 11:16 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standa

[AFMUG] Props to powercode

2014-09-27 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
The passport is actually somewhat interesting, and I'd consider it if it ran Android. It got a decent preliminary review on Engadget as well. On Friday, September 26, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af > wrote: > What about a Passport? > > https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-touchscreen-smartphone-has-become-one

Re: [AFMUG] Props to powercode

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
It “emulates” Android. From: Jason McKemie via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Props to powercode The passport is actually somewhat interesting, and I'd consider it if it ran Android. It got a decent preliminary review on Engadget as well. On F

[AFMUG] Cogent

2014-09-27 Thread Matt via Af
What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

2014-09-27 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af wrote: > What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter? > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] Props to powercode

2014-09-27 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Yah. Wonder what that's like Gets around the apps issue pretty handily. Why bother building a new API, just use a pretty good one that a lot of other phones are using. Something like that might have saved the Palm Pre. bp On 9/27/2014 12:44 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It “emulates”

Re: [AFMUG] Physically hardened routers for tower installation

2014-09-27 Thread Nicholas Eastman via Af
We have a few 4xx series and some 1200s out there that do loose ports every once and a while randomly (why we've been switching to 1100s). Most of the 1100s are after a storm, or at least that seems to be the timing, whether or not that's the culprit is up to interpretation. Nicholas Eastman Royel

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

2014-09-27 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Last I saw was ~~ $3,000 or $3/Mbps. Might be cheaper now. bp On 9/27/2014 12:53 PM, Matt via Af wrote: What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
bass players.we do it deeper ... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > Did you use the pickup line “want to come back to my place and see my > embouchure”? > > *From:* Chuck McCown via Af > *Sent:* Saturday, Sep

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-27 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
For such a low load of 40W I would definitely go with Cat5E cable. Normal POE on 2 pair would work just fine. For higher loads dedicate all 8 conductors to power. Four 24 gauge wires in the standard Cat5E cable is electrically equivalent to one 18 gauge wire. Two groups of 4 (one dedicated Cat5

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

2014-09-27 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
$700-1k Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: > > Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC > >> On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Matt via Af wrote: >> What is going rate for gig of Cogent at the datacenter? > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Mi

Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?

2014-09-27 Thread Matt via Af
This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower > > 30-40w total power > > Cat5 using multiple

Re: [AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Chris Fabien via Af
We are moving toward strongly suggesting customers not use the house wiring. Seen way too many issues with poor house wiring causing problems or with damaged ATAs after lightning strikes. Our experience, many houses have hacked up phone wiring that somehow works OK for landline service but the ATA

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy via Af
Should be able to get it around $700-750 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af < af@afmug.com> wrote: > $700-1k > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: > > Last we checked $700 on one year contract and free NRC > > O

Re: [AFMUG] Props to powercode

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
It probably meshes with the “secure containerization” of work, personal, and apps that enterprise IT people probably like. Work content is separated from personal content, and apps are run in a secure container. Or so they say. http://us.blackberry.com/business/enterprise-mobility/work-personal

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Double C’s are part of my daily warm-up Chuck. But, there are some guys that are just amazing… Doc being on my short list of trumpet players in that list… Maynard Ferguson and Harry James are the other biggies. Glad that you got to hear Doc ! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I forgot to address the due date issue. Like Jeremy, I try to schedule the install on the porting due date. We don’t get an exact time, but ports usually take effect around 8-9 am, rarely will it not be complete if you schedule a late morning or an afternoon install. Also note that many resid

Re: [AFMUG] Props to powercode

2014-09-27 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
...yeah that's what Citrix tells us about Xenmobile. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Sep 27, 2014, at 4:27 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
I am talking about two octaves above the C on the staff. Is that what you are talking about? Cause that is pretty danged high. Three full octaves above the C below the staff. If so, impressive indeed. I was only reliable over two octaves. I have also heard Maynard Ferguson in concert.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Yes, that one… I just did my warmups for tonight and recorded it for you on my Mac with Quicktime, but I don’t think the MIME attachment type allows for attachments to the list. If not, I will send it to your personal I will try that later … headed out the door for the gig! From: Af [mail

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy Grip via Af
MF! MF! MF! (never heard him live, alas)……….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47uuEYv-C7o From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+grip=nbnworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun I am t

Re: [AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Nate Burke via Af
Do you schedule both the Wireless and ATA install on the same day, or are they 2 installs? If they are the same day, how do you convince the customer of switching their Phone over when they don't even have the service yet. Don't they question your reliability since their sisters daughters ex-

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Shayne Lebrun via Af
On Debian, doing an ‘aptitude update;aptitude upgrade’ will almost never do anything ‘wrong,’ and if it thinks it’s going to, it will generally warn you about it right then and there, and often give you a few choices on what to do about it. On a RHEL/CentOS distribution, ‘yum update’ will so

[AFMUG] PMP450 in 3.55?

2014-09-27 Thread Jeremy Grip via Af
I notice looking at PMP450 specs that there are two separate units in 3GHz, one for 3300-3600 and one for 3550-3800. Does that mean we’re liable to be able to utilize the lower 100 when (if?) we get shared 3550-3650 on that platform? They’d be able to implement robust compliant DFS on it—it’s a

Re: [AFMUG] Physically Hooking up Voip Lines

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Nope. Two reasons. First, people are used to bundles. Second, half the reason they are usually switching is they hate their landline phone company so much. I think we do get the occasional person adding VoIP later. From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:14 PM To: af@a

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables codeinjection attack

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I keep reading there are patches for the patches. From: Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables codeinjection attack On Debian, doing an ‘aptitude update;aptitude upgrade’ will almost nev

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 in 3.55?

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
I would say that is likely Jeremy. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Grip via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PMP450 in 3.55? I notice looking at PMP450 specs that there are two separate units in 3GHz, one

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
For you Chuck... attempting to attach an .m4a file for you From: Af [af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] on behalf of Jeremy Grip via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun MF! MF! MF! (n

Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
OK, that didn't work... I should complain to the list sysop ! :) Will send it your wbmfg address. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Friday Fun For you

[AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Anybody know what that little 6-leaded SMD is between the RJ45 jack and the Ethernet transformer on the PCB of a Canopy SM? We bought a used SM that doesn't work (it lights up and seems to be trying) and that part is missing. I don't think it's optional. But is its absence causing the problems

Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
It's a Transient Voltage Suppressor. I haven't tested others, but I know 100 will function just fine without it. In a pinch I remove them to fix ethernet errors. I think this is the right part number if you wanted to replace it. RCLAMP0504FCT Gerard On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Ken Hohhof v

Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
oops, 100 series Gerard On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Gerard Dupont III wrote: > It's a Transient Voltage Suppressor. I haven't tested others, but I know > 100 will function just fine without it. In a pinch I remove them to fix > ethernet errors. I think this is the right part number if yo

Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Gerard is correct. An SM will function without it, though it makes the Ethernet less than protected from basic transient surges (even little ones). I would suggest replacing it From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gerard Dupont III via Af Sent: Saturday, Septemb

Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
So the missing part doesn’t explain why it doesn’t work. It came with a guarantee, so I’ll send it back to the seller. From: Paul McCall via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM Gerard is correct. An SM will function wi

Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Paul McCall via Af
Could be that when the part came off, a trace went with it From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM So the missing part doesn’t explain why it

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 in 3.55?

2014-09-27 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
I'm pretty sure that's their plan since its a software defined radio. On Saturday, September 27, 2014, Jeremy Grip via Af wrote: > I notice looking at PMP450 specs that there are two separate units in > 3GHz, one for 3300-3600 and one for 3550-3800. Does that mean we’re liable > to be able to u

Re: [AFMUG] missing part on Canopy SM

2014-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Could be, but it looks like it was cleanly desoldered. Seeing up close is not one of my superpowers though, not for quite awhile now. I was just trying to configure it at the office. Ethernet bounces up and down, and LEDs don’t seem to go through the regular sequence. I did once get into it