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(Too big for the bikeway.)
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Quoting Robert Schultz:
> it could be that population is more educated about the laws
> regarding motorized bicycles than the average traditional
> cyclist in the same way that traditional cyclists are more
> knowledgeable about cycling laws than motorists are, even
> though both bicycles and cars
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> July 8, 2016 at 9:45 AM
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> If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let
>
> them ride their electric bikes on roads and not on bike paths.
>
>
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> Admittedly, my n is pretty small, but I rese
more cyclists of larger habitus using
> > electric assist bikes. Then there are a whole bunch or cargo/kid
> > hauler electric assist bikes on trails around town.
> >
> > I think they are a good thing. Most of us able bodied, hard core
> > enthusiasts will put off or scorn the
The complete text of state law as it impacts E-bikes (346.79 (5) is
the critical item):
Electric bicycles in Wisconsin are defined as motor bicycles. Motor
bicycle operators are required to have a valid driver’s license. Motor
bicycles cannot be used on bike paths unless they are being
Strikes me as primarily an education versus an enforcement issue. I
queried a group of cyclists via email about their knowledge of the
rules/laws that Chuck and Bill reference and to a person not one in 10
of these life long cyclists were familiar with the Wisconsin Law
governing electric
Make that 28 mph on Speed Pedelecs. But I'm certain there are
people working on faster speeds. It's human nature.
On 7/8/2016 11:05 AM, William Hauda via Bikies wrote:
Currently Wisconsin state law prohibits use of E-bikes on bike
ways with the motor engaged. That is Madison's
Currently Wisconsin state law prohibits use of E-bikes on bike ways
with the motor engaged. That is Madison's policy also. There is a
question whether the restrictions apply to state trails and the
Nonmotorized Recreation and Transportation Trails Council is currently
exploring options.
Quoting Brian Mink:
> Let's assume that most folks who use electric assist do so
> based on some need that we probably don't know about.
=v= My experience is that this is true some of the time, but
not most of the time. So I can't really assume that.
> I've noticed that most west coast cities
Quoting tim wong:
>> And it's bogus to say these are for sedentary folks.
>> By far, the most people who use them will be former
>> bicyclists.
=v= This is exactly my concern, because for decades the
purveyors of e-gadgets have targeted bicyclists for their
sales and marketing, not motorists. We
I think one can make a reasonable argument that there are really two
classes of electric bicycles:
1) Electric assist which requires pedaling input in order to activate
and continue the use of the electric assist motor. The intent being that
the motor is primarily used to assist in climbing
It’s a motor cycle and belongs on the street not a bike path-just like this:On
Jul 8, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Strawser via Bikies
wrote:
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> Brian Mink said: “I've noticed that most west coast cities that allow
> electric bikes do have rules that include behaving in
Brian Mink said: "I've noticed that most west coast cities that allow electric
bikes do have rules that include behaving in regard to maximum speed, passing,
remaining non aggressive and the like. Should Madison have such rules and post
them? Probably."
Madison already has rules, and does post
I happen to know folks who due to one arthritic malady or less than
optimal joint replacement surgery have opted for electric assist bikes
or wheels with hub motors.
I also have taken note of many more cyclists of larger habitus using
electric assist bikes. Then there are a whole bunch or
And don't get me started on bikes with chains. Either ride a draisine the
way God intended or get off the path!
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:17 AM, tim wong via Bikies <
bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote:
> If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let
> them ride their
If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let
them ride their electric bikes on roads and not on bike paths. There are a
few motorized bikes riding around the east side and, like all motorists,
they are not careful and ride way too close to bikes they pass.
Admittedly,
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