Re: Is ASL2.0 not "GPL-compatible" ??

2004-12-20 Thread Joshua Slive
Niclas Hedhman wrote: Does anyone know, and preferably have any authorative-like links ?? http://www.apache.org/licenses/ http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html Joshua. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fo

Re: proposed ammendment to mirroring policy

2004-08-25 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: Disclaimer: The presence of a mirror on this list does not constitute an endorsement by the Apache Software Foundation of the organization's business or other activities. The Apache Software

Re: Playboy mirror logo?

2004-08-25 Thread Joshua Slive
Please stop copying board on every message. On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, James Mitchell wrote: How do you propose we do that? How do you define "large segment of our users"? My email has nothing to do with your complaint. I am talking purely about the technical issue of people being unable to download t

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-25 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, James Mitchell wrote: I am begging you!! DO NOT put their logo or link on our (yes, OUR) web site. You can't even imagine what the media will do with this if you do. God help us all. You are exagerating to the extreme. Go to google and count how many media organi

Re: Subversion 1.0

2004-02-26 Thread Joshua Slive
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > Beyond that, I'm suspecting that a lot of the TODOs are going to be > related to the social issues of getting folks to start switching over. And a few security issues. This was discussed a while back on infrastructure, but I don't remember all

New license applied to docs

2004-01-23 Thread Joshua Slive
I think someone is working on an implimentation guide for the new license. Could you please include and answer to this question: Now that the new license can be explicitly applied to documentation, should we include the "Copyright [] [name of copyright owner] Licensed under the Apache License

Re: Newsletter - to be or not to be?

2003-11-30 Thread Joshua Slive
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Rob Oxspring wrote: > Right then, I don't really want to start another round of endless > discussions so I'll try to keep this short and to the point. Do people want > the newsletter to continue? If so then I'm happy to edit the Oct/Nov issue > with no promises to tackle su

Re: Mailing from apache email address

2003-11-05 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Phil Steitz wrote: > Apologies if the answer to this question is obvious and I have just not > stumbled on it; but I am having a hard time "legally" sending mail from > my apache email address. Short of logging in to minotaur via ssh and > using pine, I know of no authenticate

Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-23 Thread Joshua Slive
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > 1. website (www.apache.org/ "site" module) maintenance > > and improvements/suggestions of userfriendliness of each $tlp sites. > > I believe the website needs to be ultimately controlled by the infrastructure > committee. We used to have a separ

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Joshua Slive
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > long ago, when the original httpd announce@apache.org got > repurposed into a general announcement list, did we say > anything about what subscribers could expect? do we say > anything about it now on the page where people learn about > the list

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Joshua Slive
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > Nope. I have to resign. Well, thanks for your contribution Tetsuya. I think it is a worthwhile project, and I hope you reconsider or someone picks it up. I do believe that there have been some people getting a little too picky about "policies". I

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Joshua Slive
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > mailing lists. I don't get the sense that he does this in order that the > world will recognize him and adulate him as a hero. (Joshua, please > correct me if I'm wrong ;-) Personally, I'm just in it for the money. Joshua. ---

Re: establish a trust relationship (Re: missing signatures)

2003-09-24 Thread Joshua Slive
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > Ahhh. Now, there are no *ASF members* in Japan (Maybe, this goes for > other Asian countries), so the things can be easily inconsistent. > # The only *Japanese-native* fellow (and ASF member) is now in the USA, > # I've heard. > > In such a situation,

Re: Apachecon US 2003 advertising

2003-09-16 Thread Joshua Slive
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Ceki Gülcü wrote: > Let me begin by saying that I am not on the AC 2003 committee. > However, I think that the organizers would agree that advertising AC > US 2003 will contribute to its success. > > Thus, I urge all ASF members as well committers to add a prominent > icon to

RE: Newsletter.

2003-08-17 Thread Joshua Slive
etc, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, I never really clarified this, which might have been part of the problem. I just hoped people would figure out by example. Joshua. -- Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Newsletter.

2003-08-16 Thread Joshua Slive
w projects have ever sent anything to announce@apache.org, and I gave up nagging after a while. Joshua. -- Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Newsletter.

2003-08-15 Thread Joshua Slive
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > Thom May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I *still* don't think that announce@ is an appropriate list. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] would seem to me to be the most appropriate address, > > and if people agree I will set up the list ASAP. > ... This fact means

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-21 Thread Joshua Slive
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Conor MacNeill wrote: > Brian Behlendorf wrote: > > > > +1. I see nothing wrong with the plan. Hopefully Ant can be made smart > > enough to pull the jars down from mirrors, too. > > > > Patches always welcome, Brian :-) The mirror CGI script should be able to handle this

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-30 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Please explain why you find this pattern 'repugnant' on a mail list, but > you don't on a CVS repository. Since I promised I had finished arguing this, I replied privately. Joshua. --

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-29 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Sander Striker wrote: > >> 1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed. > > > > Yes. It has been a misnomer from the start. > > and apparently some members of the minority seem unable to just let > go and accept and work with the will of the

RE: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-29 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote: > There is only one way to change stuff at apache : put it up for a vote. Actually, my observation is that votes are used extremely rarely. Apache decisions are almost-always consensus-based. Rare issues do come along that require votes, but only

RE: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-29 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote: > > And no, allowing "invited guests" does not eliminate either problem. > > > > I'm not sure this is the type of "community" that I want to participate > > in. > > Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop > complain

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-29 Thread Joshua Slive
Ben Hyde said: > Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few > megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn > out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben I've already apologized twice for rehashing an old issue, but that is obvio

Re: Fw: You can at least forward my comments to these secret discussions about wiki

2003-01-28 Thread Joshua Slive
[This actually belongs to the "Open Community" thread on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh well.] On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > Though - and on a different topic - there is one thing nagging me here; > and that is this concept that the 'public' has a 'right' to be involved in > discussio

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-28 Thread Joshua Slive
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote: > We did NOT vote to close the list. We voted to limit access to > committers AND INVITED participants. If Andrew does not wish > to INVITE Tim's participation, it is _Andrew_ who is blocking Tim's > access here. That is not an open list. A country club

RE: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-28 Thread Joshua Slive
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Sander Striker wrote: > community@ is the only ASF wide list that is opt-in and not bound to > a certain topic (like infrastructure@ for example). committers@ always > reaches _all_ committers if they want to participate or not. So that > list is not an option. The fact tha

Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-28 Thread Joshua Slive
Sorry if this has been discussed before (I just subscribed), but I don't understand why community@apache.org would be a closed list. We have plenty of other places in the ASF to discuss private issues (board@, members@, pmc@, committers@ for announcements, etc). It is hard for me to think of any