Automatic packages (was Re: "super" pkgs)

1998-10-09 Thread Giuliano P Procida
Hi. Some people mentioned last month that it would be nice to have the automatic removal of automatically selected packages (i.e., packages selected by dselect or apt in order to satisfy dependencies) as it would fit in nicely with meta-packages implemented using (otherwise empty) .debs with depen

libgtk-dev and libgtk1.1-dev

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
Is there an easy way to have both libgtk-dev and libgtk1.1-dev available? I have trouble with yagirc and libgtk1.1. It compiles but I get a sigsegv when I try to run it. I was hoping that linking with libgtk (stable) would fix it, but I need gtk-1.1 for balsa. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when

Re: Perl

1998-10-09 Thread John Lapeyre
On 10 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: olet>*-John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> olet>| olet>| Perl 5.004 was in Incoming yesterday. You can get it from a olet>| mirror of incoming or wait a day or two and it will be installed. olet> olet>I can only find the orig source package: olet> olet>ftp> ls p

Re: Perl

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Perl 5.004 was in Incoming yesterday. You can get it from a | mirror of incoming or wait a day or two and it will be installed. I can only find the orig source package: ftp> ls perl* 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection

Re: Slashdot on the KDE stance

1998-10-09 Thread Curt Daugaard
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:27:48PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:40:04AM -0700, David Welton wrote: > > http://slashdot.org - it's a pretty good source of Linux news. The > > comments have degraded though, don't bother with them.. Used to be > > people like Alan Cox oc

Re: Perl

1998-10-09 Thread John Lapeyre
Perl 5.004 was in Incoming yesterday. You can get it from a mirror of incoming or wait a day or two and it will be installed. On 9 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: olet>I installed perl 5.005, but I understand that it has been revoked olet>and all packages in slink shall be built agains

Re: formal documents

1998-10-09 Thread D'jinnie
:Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in :real life and cross sign each others keys, this is the preferred :method, where it's viable.] Just out of curiousity - is there a geographical listing of Debian developers? I doubt there are any in Nebraska, but it seems like

Re: [comp.os.linux.announce] COMMERCIAL: Debian User's Guide Second Edition $38.95

1998-10-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Johnie Ingram wrote: > > "Ben" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ben> Just wondering, Dale, but why didn't you announce this to the > Ben> Debian lists as well as the c.o.linux.announce? > > Because this is a commercial, and there is a $1000 charge to adverti

Re: [comp.os.linux.announce] COMMERCIAL: Debian User's Guide Second Edition $38.95

1998-10-09 Thread Johnie Ingram
"Ben" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Just wondering, Dale, but why didn't you announce this to the Ben> Debian lists as well as the c.o.linux.announce? Because this is a commercial, and there is a $1000 charge to advertise on debian lists (to discourage spam). --

Re: X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:57:20PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Last time I checked, the license for the logo didn't allow its use in a > package (which I complained about, so maybe that's not true any more). > I tried to do this myself, and found that the logo was unrecognizable > when shrunk dow

Re: X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Chris Waters
Michael Meskes wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > > Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created > > usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If > > you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corn

Re: dpkg-dev: dpkg-shlibdeps doesn't work within fakeroot

1998-10-09 Thread James Troup
Roberto Lumbreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: dpkg-dev > Version: 1.4.0.30 > > $ dpkg-shlibdeps src/fortify; cat debian/substvars > shlibs:Depends=libc6 (>= 2.0.7u) > > $ fakeroot dpkg-shlibdeps src/fortify; cat debian/substvars > shlibs:Depends=libc6, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u) >

Re: yagirc bugs - new maintainer or not?

1998-10-09 Thread Darren Benham
I'd probably make two packages. As soon as you drop the non-gui, someone will want it On 09-Oct-98 Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > I'm here, working on 0.66 as we speak. This might be a good time to ask > a question. yagirc can now be built with gnome interface or > text interface. Should I make two p

Re: Squid2, how to handle incompatible upgrade

1998-10-09 Thread peloy
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Never mind - I forgot how I handled it the last time, from the 1.0 to > the 1.1 upgrade. Just test in the preinst for the previous version and > show a warning, upgrade instructions and a prompt there. Seemed to > work the last time .. so it will

I seem to no longer be a maintainer...

1998-10-09 Thread Marc Singer
I'm looking for myself in the bug database and find that I'm not on the list. I think I had a bug filed against one of my packages, but I cannot find it, or myself in the database. Huh?

Re: slashdot

1998-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:09:05PM -0400, Shaya Potter wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Debian Private <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: slashdot > > > >John Lapeyre writes: > >> Something that ca

Re: X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created > usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If > you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of > the windows contains th

Re: yagirc bugs - new maintainer or not?

1998-10-09 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:14:14PM +0200, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > *-Darren Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > | If you don't get the original volunteer, I'll take it over. I like and use > | yagirc so I've got a stake in it being kept up-to-date. > > I'm here, working on 0.66 as we speak. This might

Re: yagirc bugs - new maintainer or not?

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Darren Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | If you don't get the original volunteer, I'll take it over. I like and use | yagirc so I've got a stake in it being kept up-to-date. I'm here, working on 0.66 as we speak. This might be a good time to ask a question. yagirc can now be built with gnome inter

Re: X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created | usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If | you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of | the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:06:30PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:40:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus > > just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze > > be pushed

Re: Slashdot on the KDE stance

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:40:04AM -0700, David Welton wrote: > http://slashdot.org - it's a pretty good source of Linux news. The > comments have degraded though, don't bother with them.. Used to be > people like Alan Cox occasionally posted.. no more (afaik). Yes, I know that. I was hoping for

Re: X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created > usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If > you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of > the windows contains th

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:20:34PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > Santiago> There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled > Santiago> for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. > > I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is > supported), but n

Re: Intent to package gqview

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:10:36PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > Unless someone else is working on this, I would like to package gqview. It is > a DFSG GTK+ based Image browser that supports thumb nails and image viewing. > I > like it. Small and fast -- even on this p75. Great. Will you get it into

Re: When will the freeze happen ???

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:02:32PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > Sorry, maybe I'm deaf or blind or my mail spool went to /dev/null, but I > never saw a concrete date for the freeze in the last months. Can somebody > enlighten me when it will happen ? I doubt it's your fault. I never saw it eit

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > No, this would hold the release for at least two more months. Joey, that's exaggerated by a lot. But I agree with your reasoning- > . We have several kernel module package that need to be re-packaged. > . We have to rework on the

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:18:46PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > I do run 2.1.124 on my laptop and am really impressed by this > kernel. It uses less memory and runs smoother under heavy load than > any kernel I've ever used. I have to agree. 124 is great on my notebook too. I'm just compiling 12

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:40:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus > just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze > be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink > towards 2.2.0

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Linux 2.2 is a good candidate for the next unstable to play with. > I believe that it will be fun, but I also forsee that there will > be problems. > > I hope our release manager won't jump on that train too quick. Agreed. There a

Re: slashdot

1998-10-09 Thread Shaya Potter
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian Private <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 11:49 AM Subject: Re: slashdot >John Lapeyre writes: >> Something that came up in the discussion. Does anyone have any idea what >> the U.S. legal system

dpkg-dev: dpkg-shlibdeps doesn't work within fakeroot

1998-10-09 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Package: dpkg-dev Version: 1.4.0.30 $ dpkg-shlibdeps src/fortify; cat debian/substvars shlibs:Depends=libc6 (>= 2.0.7u) $ fakeroot dpkg-shlibdeps src/fortify; cat debian/substvars shlibs:Depends=libc6, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u) ^ ^ :-? Ideas?? PS: libtrick's fakeroot doe

Re: Slashdot on the KDE stance

1998-10-09 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:39:09PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:53:23PM +0200, Francesco Tapparo wrote: > > Slashdot has posted an article about the decision to remove the KDE binaries > > right now. > > Could someone please post the article or at least the complete UR

Re: another problem maybe relate to lesstiffg

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 03:01:58PM -0400, Steve Dunham wrote: > Yup, I just noticed that my package, amaya, no longer works. Layout > problems: the widget holding the page doesn't show up. I think we > might need a newer (or older) version of lesstif in slink. I absolutely agree. Did anyone alre

Re: Slashdot on the KDE stance

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:53:23PM +0200, Francesco Tapparo wrote: > Slashdot has posted an article about the decision to remove the KDE binaries > right now. Could someone please post the article or at least the complete URL? Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkel

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-09 Thread Andy Dougherty
[ perl5.005_02's default library is now /usr/lib/perl5/perl5.005, and might change with 5.006, etc.] > Any idea how to handle this properly ? Maybe we need a sort of perl > policy : package will have to install file under /usr/lib/perl5/debian > which would be a symlink to the current perl versi

RE: yagirc bugs - new maintainer or not?

1998-10-09 Thread Darren Benham
If you don't get the original volunteer, I'll take it over. I like and use yagirc so I've got a stake in it being kept up-to-date. On 08-Oct-98 David Welton wrote: > I recall someone wanting to take over yagirc after I offered it up. > Is this person still interested? They ought to upload a new

X window logo

1998-10-09 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't it (under Debian) have t

Intent to package hp2pbm

1998-10-09 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! The hp2pbm utility is implicitly called by mgetty-fax's faxspool when given a HP PCL file. Currently, this results in an error on Debian. I can't seem to find a license stipulation in the sources; I'm beginning to think its public domain, and am attempting to contact the author to c

Re: How can tell what priority a bug is?

1998-10-09 Thread Adam P. Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) writes: > I maintain cdparanoia, which has bug #23236 filed against it. This is an > alpha version of the software, and the bug is that a feature isn't yet > implemented. > I don't want this to keep this package out of the new > release, as its base functionalit

Perl

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
I installed perl 5.005, but I understand that it has been revoked and all packages in slink shall be built against perl 5.004, is that so? Now where do I find 004? There's no perl in ftp.debian.org and ftp.de.debian.org has 005. thanks -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up)

Re: Does debian have an official "standard" scripting language ?

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-"Geoffrey L. Brimhall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Just like debian has an official standard shell - bash, does debian have an | official scripting language ? | | If so, is it perl, python, etc ? | | The reason I'm asking is largely questions of disk space - ie minimizing the | number of scripting

[comp.os.linux.announce] COMMERCIAL: Debian User's Guide Second Edition $38.95

1998-10-09 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Just wondering, Dale, but why didn't you announce this to the Debian lists as well as the c.o.linux.announce? Ben -- Brought to you by the letters M and J and the number 10. "XTC versus Adam Ant -- which one will survive?" -- They Might Be Giants Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomor

Re: Discussion - Proposed Constitution - voting part 2

1998-10-09 Thread Darren Benham
On 09-Oct-98 Ian Jackson wrote: > A.6(5)(iii): > This elimination procedure is repeated, moving down ballot papers to > 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. preferences as required, until one option gets > more than half of the `first' preferences. > > It seems to me to be clear that the intent is that if a

Re: Does debian have an official "standard" scripting language ?

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote: > Just like debian has an official standard shell - bash, does debian have an > official scripting language ? Even if bash is essential, the "standard" shell is sh, not bash. [ If you look at our shell scripts, most of them are /bin/sh, not /bin/ba

Intent to package gqview

1998-10-09 Thread Shaleh
Unless someone else is working on this, I would like to package gqview. It is a DFSG GTK+ based Image browser that supports thumb nails and image viewing. I like it. Small and fast -- even on this p75.

Re: How can tell what priority a bug is?

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On 9 Oct 1998, Dale E. Martin wrote: > I maintain cdparanoia, which has bug #23236 filed against it. This is an > alpha version of the software, and the bug is that a feature isn't yet > implemented. I don't want this to keep this package out of the new > release, as its base functionality works

Re: Does debian have an official "standard" scripting language ?

1998-10-09 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 02:09:48AM -0700, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote: > Just like debian has an official standard shell - bash, does debian have an > official scripting language ? > > If so, is it perl, python, etc ? Yes, Bourne Shell :-> Bash implements most features of it, afaik. I really wi

Does debian have an official "standard" scripting language ?

1998-10-09 Thread Geoffrey L. Brimhall
Just like debian has an official standard shell - bash, does debian have an official scripting language ? If so, is it perl, python, etc ? The reason I'm asking is largely questions of disk space - ie minimizing the number of scripting languages installed on a system by writing a package which d

How can tell what priority a bug is?

1998-10-09 Thread Dale E. Martin
I maintain cdparanoia, which has bug #23236 filed against it. This is an alpha version of the software, and the bug is that a feature isn't yet implemented. I don't want this to keep this package out of the new release, as its base functionality works extremely well. Sorry if I'm missing someth

Re: Reverting to Perl 5.004

1998-10-09 Thread Brian White
> > I suspect that it's in the best interest of the freeze to revert to Perl > > Thanks. > > > 5.004. I'm currently uploading the 5.004.04-6 release to master's > > Incoming. I'll file a bug on ftp.debian.org that the 5.005 release > > should be deleted and the 5.004 release installed. > > May

Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux

1998-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 08:01:05AM -0700, Robert Woodcock wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:33:49AM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: > > > Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan > > > installer package in

Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux

1998-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:33:49AM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: > > Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan > > installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only > > thing I'd have to

Re: Debian 3.0 and release goals

1998-10-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Please check out http://www.debian.org/~joey/goals/index.html or http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/Linux/Debian/master/goals/index.html Regards, Joey -- No question is too silly to ask, but, of course, some are too silly to answer. -- Perl book

Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux

1998-10-09 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:33:49AM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: > > Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan > > installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only > > thing I'd have to

Debian 3.0 and release goals

1998-10-09 Thread Juergen A. Erhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- In the release naming thread (I don't know whether it died down already), there was a mention of 3.0 (right after 2.2, for one). Now... I know `we'[1] don't want to set hard release goals anymore. And I agree with that. Someone (can't remember who) a while back

Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux

1998-10-09 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: > Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan > installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only > thing I'd have to work on would be upstream upgrades (it currently doesn't > handle t

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We have to do that anyways for 2.0.36.. Only recompile, to work with 2.1 expect to fix a lot of code.. > When did we get sound modules? With 2.2.0 we could actually have some!! You did know we have alsa packages, right? And they even work with both 2.0 and

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Which is why I asked for another week to see IF we need to re-target, > instead of asking for a re-target now.. Bogus argument. Kernels do not have a set release date, and 2.2 will take a couple of weeks, esp. since there will probably be a couple of pre2.2 ke

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus > > just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze > > be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY r

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Martin Schulze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus > just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze > be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink > towards 2.2.0? No, this would hold the release for at

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 08:42:57AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > Quoting J.H.M. Dassen Ray" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 > > properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with > > 2.1.x (which I suspect

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On 9 Oct 1998, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > Santiago> There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled > > Santiago> for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. > > > > I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting J.H.M. Dassen Ray" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 > properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with > 2.1.x (which I suspect quite a few developers run). Things like smbfsx that have 2.0 and 2.1

Re: Ratifying the constitution

1998-10-09 Thread Buddha Buck
> Buddha Buck writes ("Re: Ratifying the constitution "): > ... > ... > > Out of curiosity, how formal does a proposed amendment have to be. I > > mean, will this work for an amendment proposal? (And if so, I'd like > > to propose it: > > > > --Amendment Proposal

Desperate need for a config tool

1998-10-09 Thread Igor Mozetic
I'm not a developer but would like to share my experience with installing/using Debian and compare it to Windows 95/98. I'm a long time Unix user (Sun, Apollo, HP), but not administrator, and started to use/administer a Debian machine a year ago. Since then I installed/upgraded Debian 2.0 on three

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 09 Oct 1998, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote: > > > and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and > > 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY > > re-target slink towards 2.2.0? > > I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updat

important perl5.005 issues (was Re: perl version depends)

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 08:54:46PM -0400, Michael Alan Dorman écrivait: > > Threaded perl and non-threaded perl are binary-incompatible at the > > extension level, meaning most compiled extensions must be > > distinguishable. > I think you're wrong. per

Re: Contacting authors

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > The author should get the credit, and more exposition... Policy says /usr/doc//copyruight should say who written the program. The credit should be already there. > Or are we afraid that they might get bug reports that should go the the > Debian bug

contacting porters (was: Contacting authors)

1998-10-09 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 08 Oct 1998, Edward Betts wrote: > > And while we are doing it how about implementing @m86k.porter.debian.org or > @arm.builder.debian.org for the person who has recomplied the package on > different machines (m86k, powerpc, alpha, arm, etc). Now this _is_ a good idea! I've already asked o

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On 9 Oct 1998, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > Santiago> There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled > Santiago> for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. > > I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is > supported), but not "a lot of packages". We

Re: Consensus on source packages for ports?

1998-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously David Welton wrote: > So, is there any consensus on how to upload source packages for ports? > I have some things like strace that I would like to upload for arm, > but the source is fairly different... Hrmm... pondering.. maybe I can > get around it.. hrmmm I would suggest first maili

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:20:34PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is > supported), but not "a lot of packages". IIRC, libc6 doesn't support IPv6; you need a beta version for that. So this is only an issue if we intend to release one

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Samuel Tardieu
> I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 > properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with > 2.1.x (which I suspect quite a few developers run). I do run 2.1.124 on my laptop and am really impressed by this kernel. It uses less memor

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Samuel Tardieu
> "Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled Santiago> for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not "a lot o

Re: dpkg config files in /etc ?

1998-10-09 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi, > My general rule of thinking about it is: > state is an opion within the program which can be changed and > should be remembered next time. > esp something which reasonably could change every time the program > is used (it is concievable I have a CD today...in a month I am FTP > upgrading) >

Re: Contacting authors

1998-10-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Ian Jackson wrote: > Martin Schulze writes ("Contacting authors"): > > tonight I was thinking about implementing @authors.debian.org which > > would enable a way for us to get in touch with the upstream authors of > > some piece of software without the need of looking into the copyright > > file or

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus > just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze > be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink > towards 2.2.0? I don't think this

When will the freeze happen ???

1998-10-09 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Sorry, maybe I'm deaf or blind or my mail spool went to /dev/null, but I never saw a concrete date for the freeze in the last months. Can somebody enlighten me when it will happen ? Gregor

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:40:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In light of the perl issues (see my last message) A bug report has been submitted to ftp.debian.org to put the previous version back, which means the perl issues need not be dealt with in the current development cycle. > and the

Intent to package python-opengl and pcgi

1998-10-09 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Then, I'd like to announce my intention to package python-opengl and pcgi. python-opengl depends on togl, which has not yet been packaged. Package: python-opengl Depends: mesag2, togl, python-tk Description: An Python interface for OpenGL, GLU, GLUT and Togl PyOpenGL provides bindings betwee

Re: kdelibs and contrib

1998-10-09 Thread Raul Miller
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hate replying to myself, but here we go.. > kdelibs is LGPL. As someone mentioned it does use some code derived > from gettext (libintl.cpp), which is GPL. However the code was taken > from a version modified for glibc2 where is was redistributed as L

The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink towards 2.2.0? Thanks. Zephaniah E, Hull.. pgpL2Z9IpY4sx.pgp Description: PGP signat

Re: perl version depends

1998-10-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 08:54:46PM -0400, Michael Alan Dorman écrivait: > Threaded perl and non-threaded perl are binary-incompatible at the > extension level, meaning most compiled extensions must be > distinguishable. I think you're wrong. perl5.005 and perl5.005-thread are binary-compatible. Bu

Re: Contacting authors

1998-10-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Schulze writes ("Contacting authors"): > tonight I was thinking about implementing @authors.debian.org which > would enable a way for us to get in touch with the upstream authors of > some piece of software without the need of looking into the copyright > file or digging in the source if the

Re: Discussion - Proposed Constitution - voting part 2

1998-10-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Darren Benham writes ("Discussion - Proposed Constitution - voting part 2"): > I've found another area that could cause problems in the vote counting area. > I've been running various sceanios and here's what I've found: > > In point 5 of A.6. describes the STV method. Basicly, if no one > optio

Re: Ratifying the constitution

1998-10-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Buddha Buck writes ("Re: Ratifying the constitution "): ... > That's not what it means. It means that in order for an amendment to > automatically be accepted, you need to convince 6 people, Guy and the > five seconds. > > If they don't like it, you can force it to a vote. I think you require

Re: Ratifying the constitution

1998-10-09 Thread Ian Jackson
(I've now caught up on debian-devel, barring my 7 articles marked to return, of which this was one ...) Guy Maor writes on the 10th of September: > Yes, let's. > > I am formally proposing version 0.8 of the constitution as given in >

Re: lesstif

1998-10-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 11:15:09AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > I was right in that lesstif causes my problems. After reverting to the hamm > version everything is fine again. So there either is a bug in lesstifg or an > incompatibility. Odd. I've recently been coding a simple Motif program for

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-09 Thread Carey Evans
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This reminds me of a joke; unfortunately I couldn't track it down > in a quick look on altavista and I haven't any more time to look for it. > In short, a man attends several days of a trade show and each day > tells a security guard that today he will

Intent to package: python-mxtexttools, python-mxcrypto

1998-10-09 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
I'd like to announce my intention to package two more python add-on modules: Package: python-mxtexttools Version: 1.0.1-0 Section: interpreters Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6, python-base (>= 1.5) Installed-Size: 132 Maintainer: Gregor Hoffleit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> De

Re: Back to RedHat

1998-10-09 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Emacs should not be part of the 'basics' (I say this as an emacs user). | | I think we should have a priority between "Standard" and "Optional", | perhaps named "Recommended". These are packages which would be

Intent to package intlfonts

1998-10-09 Thread Milan Zamazal
I'd like to package intlfonts for X available on GNU FTP. They are especially useful for Emacs. Since this package is big, I'll probably make several smaller binary packages from it. Milan Zamazal

Re: gdselect alpha 2 (BUG Report)

1998-10-09 Thread Steve Dunham
"Shaya Potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -Original Message- > From: Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >alpha 2 is released at http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/gdselect/ > I was trying to compile it, had a little problem with some includes on glib, > which I overcame, but it seg faulted

Re: Release Critical Bugs List

1998-10-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 07:00:31PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Contrib and Non-free packages can't have release critical bugs -- > they're not even an official part of debian. yeah yeah, the package ain't part of Debian anymore because of a lack of license and no way to get the author to fix it.

Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux

1998-10-09 Thread Robert Woodcock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: >> Since when did linux get virus's You'd only get them on a really >> bad system - which debian is not (or if you did EVERYTHING as root). > >On a linux system exporting disk space to Windows machines, it is indeed >practical to have

Re: kdelibs and contrib

1998-10-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 09 Oct 1998, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> >Now that all of KDE has gone, we are left with one issue: kdelibs. >From what I heard kdelibs is LGPL'd and can be distributed freely. >This would mean that someone could reupload it and it will be >accepted into contrib? I think that the packages q

Re: Perl policy for managing modules ?

1998-10-09 Thread warp
Ok, after some thought, and fielding a LOT of perl questions on #debian, I've come up with a more workable idea which gives us much better handling for the next time something like this happens.. Rename perl to perl5.005, version 02-2 or such.. Then use the alternatives setup to decide which perl

Re: vat & tcl8.0.3

1998-10-09 Thread David Engel
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 08:10:09PM -0700, Alex Romosan wrote: > David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Oct 01, 1998 at 12:27:17PM -0700, Alex Romosan wrote: > > > can somebody who know more about tcl (maybe even the tcl maintainer) > > > take a look at this? i appreciate any help. t

boot-floppies, rewrite of help screens

1998-10-09 Thread Marc Singer
I spent some time rewriting the help screens for the rescue disk to make them more comprehensible and to add information about using the rescue disk to rescue a system. I put the patch on master //master.debian.org/~elf/patches/boot-floppies_2.0.11_p1 Comments?

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