Re: Changing reftest required resolution

2012-08-28 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2012-08-28 11:17 -0700, L. David Baron wrote: > On Tuesday 2012-08-28 12:52 -0400, Andrew Halberstadt wrote: > > == The Problem == > > > > Reftests currently assume a window size of 800x1000. This is not > > possible on mobile devices, and using this resoluti

Re: Changing reftest required resolution

2012-08-28 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2012-08-29 17:08 +1200, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:17 AM, L. David Baron wrote: > > > We don't want to be running our reftests at > > a size smaller than the accepted max size for reftests at W3C. > > > > What is th

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: RDFa Working Group

2012-08-29 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2012-08-29 14:41 +0200, Axel Hecht wrote: > On 28.08.12 21:31, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: > >On 8/27/2012 6:34 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > >>W3C is proposing a revised charter for the RDFa Working Group. For > >>more details, see: > >>http://lists.w3

Re: The current state of Talos benchmarks (meeting notes)

2012-08-30 Thread L. David Baron
the other problems that leads developers to distrust talos, which is that a significant portion of the performance regressions reported are (or at least were at one time) the result of changes to the tests, but that changes to the tests don't show up as part of the list of suspected causes of regres

Re: Simple WebAPIs to implement for MozCamp + newcomer IRC support

2012-09-06 Thread L. David Baron
zilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570326 add support for background-size in background shorthand property (css3-background) comment 2 and comment 3 give an outline of work to be done. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla

Proposed W3C Charters: System Applications & NFC Working Groups

2012-09-06 Thread L. David Baron
mething we should say. (I think we should say something, even if it's simply a message of support.) (Sorry for not sending this out sooner.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://

Proposed W3C Charter: Internationalization Working Group

2012-09-06 Thread L. David Baron
Friday, September 14. Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 __

W3C Proposed Recommendations: Multimodal Architecture, R2RML, rdb-direct-mapping

2012-09-06 Thread L. David Baron
bring up fundamental issues for the first time at this stage.) (I'd actually be somewhat surprised if there's any interest in these specifications in the Mozilla community, but I could be wrong.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla

Re: Request for reviewers and super-reviewers to require more in-code documentation of new code

2012-09-14 Thread L. David Baron
xr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/nsIStyleRule.h I admit I wrote much of this documentation, so it's hard to know how useful it is for others. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla

Re: Proposal to remove the function timer code

2012-09-18 Thread L. David Baron
on worth turning into instrumentation for the new profiler (SAMPLE_LABEL_* macros)? Otherwise sounds fine to me (though there could be somebody using it who wants it to stay). -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla h

Re: Imminent conversion of nsresult into an enum

2012-09-21 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
indows when this lands. > > Thanks! > Ehsan > ___ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform That sounds great! Are you somehow using the new C++11 typesafe enums? -- D

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-28 Thread L. David Baron
it to be more explicit regarding what you said, but when I wrote it, I didn't feel like it represented our consensus. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-28 Thread L. David Baron
importance of both their work and their time to that of others. I think some people are likely to consistently overestimate and some to underestimate. I'd also just rather not get into a situation where that's required. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron ht

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-29 Thread L. David Baron
ach step requires a try cycle and a cycle taking too long means the person doing the work forgets what was going on. The same person, later in the month, might be working on a high priority bug that blocks a release. A quota system would just discourage somebody from trying to fix the intermitten

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-29 Thread L. David Baron
Mozilla-Inbound rarely. If a developer never breaks Mozilla-Inbound, they're probably spending more extra time testing than the time they save of others interacting with Mozilla-Inbound. (And, worse, that might actually be wasting the time of many others by increasing wait tim

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-29 Thread L. David Baron
On Saturday 2012-09-29 19:03 +0200, Ms2ger wrote: > On 09/29/2012 06:07 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > >I think the basic rule is that an individual developer ought to > >break Mozilla-Inbound rarely. If a developer never breaks > >Mozilla-Inbound, they're probably spendi

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-30 Thread L. David Baron
want to test one platform where the unit tests run and test that B2G builds), then that bug is still key to reducing load. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___

Re: NS_ALWAYS_INLINE apparently needs to include "inline", or have "inline" alongside it everywhere

2012-10-07 Thread L. David Baron
INE to include "inline" I think (b) is better than (a) because it means less work in the future if there's, say, a compiler that requires the "inline" and the __attribute__((...)) to be in a particular order (or, worse, one compiler that requires one order and anothe

Re: Adding mozilla-inbound hg links to bugs

2012-10-08 Thread L. David Baron
not something that's done by the tool, I wouldn't be in favor of imposing more on the people who do mozilla-inbound merges. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂

Re: Removing make targets for running tests?

2012-10-08 Thread L. David Baron
erent ways to run the tests (e.g., mach doesn't work on mozilla-release when make targets are no longer supported on mozilla-central), though this may depend on how difficult it is to translate between the ways of running tests. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron

Re: Removing make targets for running tests?

2012-10-08 Thread L. David Baron
On Monday 2012-10-08 12:40 -0700, Gregory Szorc wrote: > On 10/8/12 12:17 PM, L. David Baron wrote:> On Monday 2012-10-08 12:05 > > Updating the documentation on how to run the tests (which is spread > > across a bunch of places) is extremely important. You should also >

Proposed W3C Charter: Web Fonts Working Group

2012-10-11 Thread L. David Baron
, October 22. Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say. (I'd note that this charter doesn't have the typical bit about asynchronous decision making; however, our existing participants in the group may be ok with that.) -David -- 𝄞

Proposed W3C Charter: Pointer Events Working Group

2012-10-11 Thread L. David Baron
Thursday, October 25. Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 __

W3C Proposed Recommendation: Packaged Web Apps (Widgets) - Packaging and XML Configuration (Second Edition)

2012-10-11 Thread L. David Baron
Mozilla to send comments is October 25. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla

W3C Proposed Recommendation: WOFF File Format 1.0

2012-10-11 Thread L. David Baron
that there have been many previous opportunities to make comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues for the first time at this stage.) The deadline for Mozilla to send comments is November 8. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http:/

Re: Are crashtests allowed to access chrome (e.g. set preferences)?

2012-10-15 Thread L. David Baron
org/show_bug.cgi?id=788967 that adds support for this, but apparently it had failures on try. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform

Off main thread file I/O

2012-10-16 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
r file I/O. A2: Also, OS.File provides plenty of other Off Main Thread operations, including renaming, copying files, traversing directories, etc. Q: Any documentation? A: Glad you asked - https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_OS.File (Work In Progress) Cheers, David -- David R

Re: Off main thread file I/O

2012-10-17 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
deed, this is CWD relative. I will add a paragraph on that topic in the documentation. This is generally not very useful for platform or add-ons, but it can be quite useful for tests. > - I assume the file name arguments are all nsIFile.path-compatible > across platforms? Barring any bug,

Re: Proposal for reorganizing test directories

2012-11-02 Thread L. David Baron
in accessible/ are buggy.) Or were you talking about something else in terms of the mapping? -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-plat

Re: Changes to JS components/JSMs

2012-11-02 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
rce/toolkit/addon-sdk/promise/core.js#10 >> ? Looks like the patch didn't update them... >> >> > It would if we turned this on for a product that uses Jetpack, but we don't > currently have plans to do that. We actually have some code that imports these without u

Slight change to performance vs. memory tradeoff in style system

2012-11-07 Thread L. David Baron
was worth sharing the motivation here, and warning others of the expected Talos notifications on dev-tree-management. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.m

Re: Super-review, what shall we do with you?

2012-11-25 Thread L. David Baron
#x27;s proposing that we have re-review and re-superreview of patches for aurora and beta. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platf

Re: Turning off win64 builds

2012-11-26 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
I believe that Nicholas' remark makes sense. Also, regardless of the final decision, we need to at least communicate some clear plans to the community. Explain why we had win64 nightlies until now, why we have turned them off, and whether/when they will return. Cheers, David On 11/25/12

Re: Super-review, what shall we do with you?

2012-11-26 Thread L. David Baron
I expect at least a decimal order of magnitude more patches should have had sr. (I think in practice, when the policy changed to forbid r+sr from one reviewer, we mostly stopped using sr as a result.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla

Re: Super-review, what shall we do with you?

2012-12-04 Thread L. David Baron
literal (L"" or u"") where we can; only on systems that don't > support UTF16 string literals do we allocate memory. If no such > systems remain, we should really switch to > NS_L("resetBackupDirectory") throughout. But if we want to use NS_L widely

Re: Suggestion: Improve Panorama

2012-12-18 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
ling list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > I like the idea of sliding in Panorama. Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: API for creating web page screenshot

2012-12-19 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
loper.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Canvas/Drawing_DOM_objects_into_a_canvas Couldn't this serve your needs? Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev-platform mail

Re: API for creating web page screenshot

2012-12-19 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
Ah, silly me, I misread the original message. Sorry. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Fwd: A question about multithreading in gecko using javascript

2012-12-20 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
s I can tell, if you truly need to call XPCOM from JS in a background thread, you need to do the following: - write extern "C" code that calls into XPCOM; - launch a Chrome Worker from JS; - link JS to your C shared lib through js-ctypes; - call your C code from JS through js-ctyp

Re: Changed font size interpretation

2012-12-22 Thread L. David Baron
lem is that the C language has a bunch of functions in its standard library for parsing floats (strtod, atof) that are locale-specific, but their names don't suggest or warn about the locale-specific behavior. Thus it's a very common programmer mistake in C to use locale-sensitive convers

Re: Why are there "Android 4.0 opt" test runs on mozilla-central and nowhere else?

2012-12-22 Thread L. David Baron
be ok to not run on Try by default and not run on inbound. But it should be *possible* to run on Try via trychooser, so that when something like this happens, it can at the very least be bisected after the fact. If we can't at least do that, then the tests shouldn

Re: Changed font size interpretation

2012-12-22 Thread L. David Baron
browser for various locales. No, this is not intentional; it's a bug, as I described in my earlier message. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 __

Re: Emacs and vim modelines

2013-01-03 Thread L. David Baron
at which text wraps. For example, I'm writing this email in vim with tw=68. ts is short for tabstop, which says that a tab character indents to the next column that is a multiple of the tabstop. (et is expandtab, saying that tabs should be expanded to spaces, and sw is shiftw

Re: Emacs and vim modelines

2013-01-03 Thread L. David Baron
m value, though > I'm happy to hear arguments for other values. Are there any common installations of vi/vim that actually honor modelines anymore? The ones on the Linux distros that I used stopped doing so as a security measure. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron

Re: Emacs and vim modelines

2013-01-04 Thread L. David Baron
s many people to have two code windows side-by-side, and it allows people with poor vision to have large enough fonts, even on a laptop. It also happens to be the default width of many terminal programs, which is convenient. We also might find people writing code on smaller screens. -David -- 𝄞

Re: Question about Bugzilla bug dependencies

2013-01-07 Thread L. David Baron
This one. At least, until we get caused/caused by fields in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490926 -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂

Handling execution dependencies

2013-01-12 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
oring Firefox into asynchronicity. As a base for discussion, I have put together a small RFC based on promises: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RFC/TaskDependencies Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sign

Re: Proposal to change the semantics of DONTBUILD

2013-01-16 Thread L. David Baron
ng to save resources when we could have done so is much less of a problem than not doing things that we really need to do. So Ehsan's proposal sounds great. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 M

Re: The state of the Aurora branch

2013-01-18 Thread L. David Baron
d to what our users actually use; I don't think we should hold the tree closed over this miniscule piece of it; I also think we should try to improve it.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla htt

Re: The state of the Aurora branch

2013-01-18 Thread L. David Baron
on extensions installed, or with other variations in commonly-changed profile settings. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ d

Re: Effects of JSM Compartments on Performance and Development Practices

2013-01-20 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
I have some shared concerns, given that I am one of the persons involved in the ongoing heavy refactoring on Session Restore, which for some users needs to deal with 50Mb+ strings sent across JSMs. At the moment, my main worry is not memory usage (yet) but string copying. Cheers, David

Proposed W3C Charter: Web Speech Working Group

2013-01-21 Thread L. David Baron
. Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing lis

Re: How does one debug uninitialized value usage from JavaScript (TB) ?

2013-01-28 Thread L. David Baron
tialized memory usage warnings. The behavior of uninitialized variables in JavaScript is well-defined. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 _

[Ann] JavaScript deprecation warnings

2013-01-29 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
e" Deprecation warnings now appear in the console. * Marking a method as deprecated Components.utils.import("toolkit/content/Deprecated.jsm"); function foobar() { Deprecated.warning("Method foobar is deprecated", urlToDocumentation); // ... } Well, essentially, t

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-01-31 Thread L. David Baron
Is it possible we might be able to make MOZ_LIKELY and MOZ_UNLIKELY meaningful on Windows (they currently only do anything on gcc or clang builds)? If we did, might that get back some of the gain from turning off PGO? -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org

Re: The future of PGO on Windows

2013-01-31 Thread L. David Baron
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:31 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > > Is it possible we might be able to make MOZ_LIKELY and MOZ_UNLIKELY > > meaningful on Windows (they currently only do anything on gcc or > > clang builds)? If we did, might that get back some of the gain from >

Re: Cycle collection for workers

2013-02-07 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
I am curious: does this mean an actual user-visible present on a webpage or "just" off-main screen canvas? Cheers, David On 2/7/13 12:27 AM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > We're going to want to add worker bindings for canvas (both 2D and WebGL). > Over time I expect we&

Proposed W3C Charter: HTML Working Group

2013-02-08 Thread L. David Baron
to this thread if you think there's something we should say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-pla

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: HTML Working Group

2013-02-09 Thread L. David Baron
On Saturday 2013-02-09 17:15 -0800, Justin Dolske wrote: > On 2/8/13 2:37 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > >W3C is proposing a revised charter for the HTML Working Group. > >For more details, see: > >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Feb/0009.html > &g

Re: Off-main-thread Painting

2013-02-12 Thread L. David Baron
y without a way to update just a piece of it in response to dynamic changes. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform

Re: Increase in memory utilization on Mac OSX 10.7+ due to history swipe animations

2013-02-12 Thread L. David Baron
other than while an animation is happening? -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozill

Re: Increase in memory utilization on Mac OSX 10.7+ due to history swipe animations

2013-02-12 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2013-02-12 20:17 -0800, Stephen Pohl wrote: > L. David Baron wrote: > >On Tuesday 2013-02-12 18:40 -0800, Asa Dotzler wrote: > >>doing something horribly wrong with memory. This is simply a > >>memory-expensive feature and it's a feature we *must* la

Re: Off-main-thread Painting

2013-02-14 Thread L. David Baron
le borders might be a bit more interesting. Maybe I'm missing something, though. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-pla

Re: obsoleting automation.py in the near future

2013-02-20 Thread L. David Baron
ing ways to run and debug tests (and this is just a change in what happens underneath), I'd also like to know that. It's not clear to me from your message which sort of change this is. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla

Re: Review of changes to Web compat-sensitive prefs in localizations

2013-02-22 Thread L. David Baron
o do localization lead them to read the text. The reality is that I suspect it may be important for you to do occasional audits of these values; it could also be valuable to have a tool that exposes all of them in a single place (perhaps even a place with history, like an automatica

Re: GTest has landed

2013-02-25 Thread L. David Baron
are for |make check| tests? They should be, and the fewer tests you currently have, the easier it is to make them fatal. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 __

Re: Turning off window.Components for the web

2013-03-05 Thread L. David Baron
mplementations, influencing other implementations through standards processes, and influencing other implementations in other ways. That said, it seems like it may be worth pushing on the cases we know about before shipping to a beta/release audience. It also might be worth removing Co

Re: Bug 851818 - Modernizing the Enter Bug Entry Page in Bugzilla

2013-03-18 Thread L. David Baron
g in Firefox::General. And I think appropriate guiding for Web developers filing bugs against the rendering engine is an important case. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___

Re: Bug 851818 - Modernizing the Enter Bug Entry Page in Bugzilla

2013-03-18 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2013-03-19 12:19 +0800, Byron Jones wrote: > L. David Baron wrote: > >I'd actually like to see Core higher on the list for the > >no-canconfirm case. I think it's common for reasonably > >well-informed Web developers (who would have been able to choose a

Re: Running Windows 8 tests visibly on mozilla-central, mozilla-inbound and try

2013-03-19 Thread L. David Baron
s also dev-planning rather than dev-platform? -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozill

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-03 Thread L. David Baron
se many builds and tests get merged on inbound when things are behind. (I also don't feel like we need a full build/test run for every push, so it feels like unnecessary use of resources to me.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozil

Proposed W3C Charter: Web Performance Working Group

2013-04-04 Thread L. David Baron
. Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing lis

Proposed W3C Charters: groups within the XML activity

2013-04-04 Thread L. David Baron
d say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinf

Proposed W3C Charter: Web and TV Interest Group

2013-04-04 Thread L. David Baron
reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-pla

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web and TV Interest Group

2013-04-05 Thread L. David Baron
On Friday 2013-04-05 09:45 -0400, David Humphrey wrote: > On 13-04-04 5:24 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > >W3C is proposing a revised charter for the Web and TV Interest > >For more details, see: > >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Mar/0008.html > &g

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Web Performance Working Group

2013-04-05 Thread L. David Baron
On Friday 2013-04-05 12:19 +0100, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > > W3C is proposing a revised charter for the Web Performance Working > > Group. For more details, see: > > http://www.w3.org/2013/01/webperf.html > > h

W3C Proposed Recommendation: Web Storage

2013-04-22 Thread L. David Baron
;s somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues for the first time at this stage.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 ___ dev-platf

Re: Proposal for an inbound2 branch

2013-05-01 Thread L. David Baron
ng bookmarks; the way of checking that I'm pushing the right thing is to run "hg out" before "hg push" (as one should always do... and as I don't know how to do in git). -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla

Re: Storage in Gecko

2013-05-10 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
t; how much of a perf problem those large prefs tend to be, actually. > > Robert Kaiser > ___ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo

Re: PSA: inbound/central/birch closed

2013-05-11 Thread L. David Baron
cgi?id=863732 in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ec0ad6f7e09 , though I don't know the bad changeset on the other half. I've reopened the trees. -David > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > > The latest merge from m-c to inboun

Re: OS.File and shutdown

2013-05-13 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
oughly tested yet. > Another question: are the write tasks queued and completed in order, or can > two writeAtomic calls to the same file race each other and the 2nd call > finish first (only to have the 1st call finish and write older data) All tasks to OS.File are queued and completed

Re: OS.File and shutdown

2013-05-14 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
On 5/13/13 10:20 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: > On 5/10/13 10:45 PM, Felipe Gomes wrote: >> Hi, does OS.File guarantees that write tasks that have started will be >> completed if a shutdown occurs? My use case is for writeAtomic but I'm >> interested about the

Re: OS.File and shutdown

2013-05-15 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
and it > varies case by case (or anything goes that works and is early enough..) profile-before-change should be good. Any OS.File call posted before xpcom-shutdown will be completed before we exit Firefox. Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller

Re: Ordering shutdown observers?

2013-05-15 Thread L. David Baron
many cases that's more trouble than it's worth; there are many things we know we'll need during startup, and it's not worth the extra overhead of checking every time if we've already called getService. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaro

Re: Storage in Gecko

2013-05-16 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
On 5/16/13 2:26 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > David Rajchenbach-Teller schrieb: >> I'd even go as far as limiting it to 16kb. >> (possibly with a transition phase during which going above 16kb only >> prints warnings) > > I think most of us agree, but the problem is t

Re: Ordering shutdown observers?

2013-05-16 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
er, I believe that we need to make dependencies somewhat explicit, otherwise we will at some point end up with unsatisfiable implicit dependencies and we will need large refactorings to get around these. Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla _

[RFC] Modules for workers

2013-05-18 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
urce://gre/modules/commonjs/ I would like to place worker modules in resource://gre/modules/workers/ Any comments? Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla

[Advance warning] Session Restore is changing, will break add-ons

2013-05-21 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
that we are about to break your add-on, please inform us asap, so that we can work out a solution. Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: HTML Working Group

2013-05-21 Thread L. David Baron
On Friday 2013-02-08 14:37 -0800, L. David Baron wrote: > W3C is proposing a revised charter for the HTML Working Group. > For more details, see: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2013Feb/0009.html > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/charter/2012/ > > Mozilla has

Re: [Advance warning] Session Restore is changing, will break add-ons

2013-05-22 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
changes, though, having a kill switch pretty much means forking the code of Session Restore into an "old" session restore and a new one. Do we have a policy on these things? Cheers, David On 5/22/13 5:16 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Do we have a kill switch for the new stuff (a build

Re: [Advance warning] Session Restore is changing, will break add-ons

2013-05-22 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
single file, it might make sense to just backout the changes if necessary. Cheers, David On 5/22/13 3:35 PM, Johnathan Nightingale wrote: > Policy[1] is that whenever something lands on central, it is the > developer's responsibility to provide for the ability to turn it off. > Usual

Re: [RFC] Modules for workers

2013-05-22 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
It should be possible to share some modules between Jetpack and Workers, for Jetpack modules that do not depend on DOM or XPCOM and Worker modules that do not depend on Worker-only code. This is not an immediate goal, but it is considered a-would-be-nice-to-have. Cheers, David On 5/20/13 8:53

Re: [Advance warning] Session Restore is changing, will break add-ons

2013-05-23 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
Expect the complicated patch to become more complicated :) Cheers, David > - Tim -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: [RFC] Modules for workers

2013-05-24 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
Well, if we do not want the main thread to collapse under its weight, we have to move code off the main thread and to encourage add-ons to do likewise. I'm not sure I see an alternative here. Cheers, David On 5/24/13 1:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > My main concern is that Workers cr

Re: [RFC] Modules for workers

2013-05-28 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
Weren't we moving addons into separate processes anyway? This has been discussed, but I haven't heard from this since in ages. > / Jonas -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Tree Closure for infrastructure work, Saturday June 1 from 1400 PDT to 2000 PDT

2013-05-29 Thread L. David Baron
aurora, mozilla-beta) to ensure their pushes are green, at least the trees that people are required to watch should be closed enough time in advance of things going down so that this doesn't happen (as for all downtimes like this). -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http:/

Re: Sandboxed, off-screen pages for thumbnail capture

2013-06-18 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
g the main thread. It seems possible, but this requires synchronization with the Gfx team. Best regards, David ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Sandboxed, off-screen pages for thumbnail capture

2013-06-18 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
On 6/18/13 3:01 PM, Gavin Sharp wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:10 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller > wrote: >> If I understand correctly, we are doubling both network and disk >> activity (possibly CPU activity, too) for this purpose. Performance- and >> battery-wise, tha

Re: Making proposal for API exposure official

2013-06-24 Thread L. David Baron
at just needs to be written by an author into an .htaccess file or python script.) But I'm not sure if that's the answer you were thinking of. (Also, I hope to send more comments on the proposal soon.) -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://db

Re: Code coverage take 2, and other code hygiene tools

2013-06-25 Thread L. David Baron
coverage tools separately on standards-compliance test suites might also be interesting, e.g., to see what sort of coverage the test suite for a particular specification gives us, and whether there are tests we could contribute to improve it. -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron

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