Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-25 Thread Sean Leonard
Ryan, I agree; while I did not mention RFC 4158, it is a good reference. I echo your hope that someday, CERT_PKIXVerifyCert/libpkix will provide additional diagnostic information. Some of my own observations: - while a scoring method is useful (and certainly, an "objective" method is best),

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-25 Thread Ryan Sleevi
Sean, The "Path Building" logic/requirements/concerned you described is best described within RFC 4158, which has been mentioned previously. As Brian mentioned in the past, this was 'lumped in' with the description of RFC 5280, but it's really its own thing. libpkix reflects the union of RFC 415

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-25 Thread Sean Leonard
Part III On 1/18/2012 4:23 PM, Brian Smith wrote: Sean Leonard wrote: >> We do not currently use HTTP or LDAP certificate stores with respect >> to libpkix/the functionality that is exposed by CERT_PKIXVerifyCert. >> That being said, it is conceivable that others could use this feature, >> and

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-25 Thread Sean Leonard
Part II On 1/18/2012 4:23 PM, Brian Smith wrote: > Sean Leonard wrote: >> and no log information. > > Firefox has also been bitten by this and this is one of the things blocking the switch to libpkix as the default mechanism in Firefox. However, sometime soon I may just propose that we change

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-25 Thread Sean Leonard
I ended up writing a lot of text in response to this post, so, I am breaking up the response into three mini-responses. Part I On 1/18/2012 4:23 PM, Brian Smith wrote: > Sean Leonard wrote: >> The most glaring problem however is that when validation fails, such >> as in the case of a revoked ce

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-18 Thread Brian Smith
Sean Leonard wrote: > The most glaring problem however is that when validation fails, such > as in the case of a revoked certificate, the API returns no > certificate chains My understanding is that when you are doing certificate path building, and you have to account for multiple possibilities

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-18 Thread Sean Leonard
Hi All, I'm the lead developer of Gmail S/MIME, and its successor, Penango, which is bringing /end-to-end/ cross-platform S/MIME secure e-mail to webmail and web-based messaging everywhere. It seems that this thread has brought out its fair share or lurkers so I thought I would add some persp

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-13 Thread Julien Pierre
Steve, On 1/13/2012 10:46, Stephen Hanna wrote: Yeah, that's what Yassir said also. He thought it was pretty funny that you're going to get rid of the HTTP certstore and non-blocking I/O. Apparently, we only put those in at the request of the NSS team! I guess requirements have a way of changi

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-13 Thread Ryan Sleevi
> On 13/01/12 00:01, Brian Smith wrote: > > Ryan seems to be a great addition to the team. Welcome, Ryan! > > Ryan - could you take a moment to introduce yourself? (Apologies if I > missed an earlier introduction.) Sure Gerv. Don't worry, there were no missed introductions, though I have been l

RE: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-13 Thread Stephen Hanna
- > From: dev-tech-crypto-bounces+shanna=funk@lists.mozilla.org > [mailto:dev-tech-crypto-bounces+shanna=funk@lists.mozilla.org] On > Behalf Of Wan-Teh Chang > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:01 AM > To: mozilla's crypto code discussion list > Subject: Re: libpkix

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-13 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Stephen Hanna wrote: > I'm having lunch today > with Yassir Elley, who did most of the coding > for the first version of libpkix. He works on > the same team as I do now, at Juniper. We'll > mull over this question and see if we can recall > why we included those l

RE: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-13 Thread Stephen Hanna
h-crypto-bounces+shanna=funk@lists.mozilla.org > [mailto:dev-tech-crypto-bounces+shanna=funk@lists.mozilla.org] On > Behalf Of Gervase Markham > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:01 AM > To: mozilla-dev-tech-cry...@lists.mozilla.org > Cc: Brian Smith > Subject: Re: libpkix main

Re: libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-13 Thread Gervase Markham
On 13/01/12 00:01, Brian Smith wrote: > Ryan seems to be a great addition to the team. Welcome, Ryan! Ryan - could you take a moment to introduce yourself? (Apologies if I missed an earlier introduction.) >* We will drop the idea of supporting non-NSS certificate > library APIs, and we

libpkix maintenance plan (was Re: What exactly are the benefits of libpkix over the old certificate path validation library?)

2012-01-12 Thread Brian Smith
We (me, Kai, Bob, Wan-Teh, Ryan, Elio, Kai) had a meeting today to discuss the issues raised in this thread. We came to the following conclusions: Ryan seems to be a great addition to the team. Welcome, Ryan! Gecko (Firefox and Thunderbird) will make the switch to libpkix. See Ryan's comments a