Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

Arnt Karlsen wrote on 22.11.19 13:36: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: [...] >> And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian >> Jackson > > ..a direct link to Ian's vote proposition nr.4 and a direct link

Re: [DNG] semantic of sizeof operator in C (was: simple-netaid from scratch)

Hendrik Boom wrote on 12.06.19 14:40: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 01:47:42PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote: > >> >> There is nothing wrong here. Gcc reports the size that is necessary to >> store an object of type sesqui_int, including any padding that has been >> appli

Re: [DNG] semantic of sizeof operator in C (was: simple-netaid from scratch)

Didier Kryn wrote on 12.06.19 12:15: [...] Hi Didier, please allow me to clear up some apparent misconceptions below. > >     What I meant in this discussion is that sizeof() allows to > calculate the number of elements of an array, because we make > assumptions on data layout, but this is

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

KatolaZ wrote on 01.04.19 09:03: > Dear D1rs, > > we have analysed in depth the attack from the "Green Hat Hackers" that > compromised the Devuan infrastructure in the last hours, and we > concluded that you all are: > >* APRIL FOOLS * > > :P D'oh! A prank well executed from a

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

g4sra wrote on 16.11.18 21:19: > The concept of which is at fault anyway, if root file system network > support no longer required the merge should go the other way in any > case, it is /usr/{bin,sbin,lib} that is depreciated. > > /usr/bin > /bin > /usr/sbin > /sbin > /usr/lib > /lib > > with

Re: [DNG] initramfs?

k...@aspodata.se wrote on 16.11.18 20:45: > Urban: [...] >> Most, if not all, contemporary Linux based operating systems should be >> able to boot just fine without resorting to any kind of initramfs mechanism, >> provided all the essential bits are located in the root-fs, and the kernel >> has

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

Steve Litt wrote on 16.11.18 18:35: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:08:34 +0100 > Irrwahn wrote: > > >> And bringing anything related to systemd into the picture just >> because its proponents also happen to support merged /usr is a red >> herring. > &

Re: [DNG] initramfs?

Hendrik Boom wrote on 16.11.18 19:08: > (1) Is initramfs so weird that only one or two people in the world can > make one? No. And even though stock De(bi|vu)an installations by default use an initramfs (an intrd, to be precise): if you ever find yourself in a position where you have to

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

Steve Litt wrote on 16.11.18 11:11: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:11:17 +1300 > Daniel Reurich wrote: [...] >> So... for Devuan, do we want to default to a merged /usr in our coming >> release of Beowulf or are we going to resist another pointless >> rearranging of the deck chairs... >> >> Keen to get

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

Daniel Reurich wrote on 16.11.18 10:11: [...] > So... for Devuan, do we want to default to a merged /usr in our coming > release of Beowulf or are we going to resist another pointless > rearranging of the deck chairs... > > Keen to get some feedback on this [...] I cast my vote in favor of

Re: [DNG] Plasma on Devuan Ceres

Martin Steigerwald wrote on 02.11.18 22:31: > Hi! Hi Martin! > I am considering to switch this main laptop from Debian Sid to Devuan > Ceres for quire some time already. [...] > So or so I am really keen to hear about how Plasma works on Ceres. [...] I didn't get around to testing Plasma on

Re: [DNG] Please help with testing the new version of sysvinit

KatolaZ wrote on 01.11.18 22:44: > Dear d1rs, > > TL;DR: > == > > we need help in testing any regression with a new version of sysvinit > (2.91-1+devuan1) that we have put in Devuan experimental [...] Casually toying around with it (including randomly shuffling services around some of the

Re: [DNG] Please help with testing the new version of sysvinit

KatolaZ wrote on 01.11.18 22:44: [...] > You just need to add Devuan experimental repos to your > sources.list: > > http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged experimental main > [...] KatolaZ, above won't work for me, getting: | http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged experimental Release [ERROR] |

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

KatolaZ wrote on 30.10.18 13:52: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:28:04AM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: [...] >> So there clearly is some kind of inconsistency in present ceres which makes >> debootstrap reproducible go belly-up. >> > > Hi Irrwhan, > > you are right.

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

KatolaZ wrote on 30.10.18 08:19: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 08:10:37AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] >> Building Ceres with the live-sdk, i've got the >> following errors related with 'su' in the debootstrap.log file: >> >> tar: ./bin/su: Cannot open: File exists >> tar: ./etc/pam.d/su: Cannot

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

ll following this list and on IRC on an almost daily basis, I'm unfortunately tight on resources to put into Devuan. It may take some time for me to reply to any potential follow-ups. Still cheering for you from the side line though, y'all doing an incredibly fine job! [/OT] Hope that helped, b

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

Steve Litt wrote on 26.07.2018 18:17: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:17:21 +0200 > Irrwahn wrote: >> What's more, I'd >> go even further and say I wouldn't mind at all if every daemon >> package came with support for all init systems in current use >> (rc-style sys

Re: [DNG] A new article on Devuan (in German)

KatolaZ wrote on 26.07.2018 12:03: > Dear D1rs, > > just to point out the nice article written by Michael Plura and > recently published in the German computer magazine "iX": > > https://www.heise.de/select/ix/2018/8/1533453649894916 That was a pleasant read, thanks for the link! I hope we'll

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

Hendrik Boom wrote on 26.07.2018 12:35: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 06:50:43PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote: >> Hendrik Boom wrote on 25.07.2018 17:59: >> [cut] >>> Package dependencies are of the form >>> Install X if Y is installed >>> Too bad it d

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

Simon Hobson wrote on 25.07.2018 23:25: > KatolaZ wrote: > >> Replace 'links2' with 'openssh-server' and 'libfbdirect' with >> 'libsystemd0', and you should see what I mean. Most of the De??an >> installations actually have tons of libraries that are never used, or >> are just used to probe for

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

Hendrik Boom wrote on 25.07.2018 17:59: [cut] > Package dependencies are of the form > Install X if Y is installed > Too bad it doesn't handle > Install X it Y and Z are installed. > I suspect, though, we don't wand to have to embed a SAT solver into the > package manager. It's already

[DNG] New here and needing help about backports

[Sorry, I accidentally hit "reply" instead of "reply list"; here's the same message re-posted to DNG.] Stephane Ascoet wrote on 24.07.2018 13:33: [...] > But now I'm stuck with a similar problem for "linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 > 4.16.16-2~bpo9+1 [kernel - optional]" > > It is needed but I can't

Re: [DNG] Is Thunderbird clean?

dan pridgeon wrote on 23.07.2018 18:01: > Does installing Thunderbird drag in any systemd stuff.  Thank you. Hi Dan. No, it doesn't. Otherwise it would be impossible to install from the Devuan repositories, as all systemd stuff is banned there. (Except libsystemd0 which by itself is harmless

Re: [DNG] Unswapping interface namesRe: (WAS: what has gone wrong with networking in ascii?

Hendrik Boom wrote on 15.07.2018 22:03: [...] > And I found a number of other eth's in /etc/* and /etc/*/* using grep. [...] > It would have been fouond with one more *: /etc/*/*/* Hi Hendrik, you may find that using grep's -r or -R option can make your life a lot easier. Quoting the man page:

Re: [DNG] New here and needing help about backports

Stephane Ascoet wrote on 13.07.2018 11:53: [cut] > On > > > I can see "[ascii-backports] virtualbox-5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1". > > So I "aptitude update" but after that, "aptitude search virtualbox" only > gives me "i

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox

Ozi Traveller wrote on 11.07.2018 01:36: > Hi > > Just wondering if anyone is using virtualbox, and whether it brings in and > systemd stuff? Hi Ozi, I'm using VirtualBox 5.2.14 from virtualbox.org, no systemd dependencies. The same should be true for the De(bi|vu)an package (ascii-backports

Re: [DNG] dosemu package missing (SOLVED)

Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 20:50: > Irrwahn wrote: >> Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 19:55: >>> Hi maintainers >>> >>> I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all >>> releases), but the packages are not in the devuan repo, >>>

Re: [DNG] dosemu package missing

Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 19:55: > Hi maintainers > > I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all > releases), but the packages are not in the devuan repo, > at least for the ascii release. > > May be worth looking into > Hi Joel, dosemu version

Re: [DNG] dnsmasq: junk found in command line

hal wrote on 09.07.2018 13:08: > Hi, > I am having a problem starting dnsmasq after latest update to my devuan VM. > The error is when trying to start the init script: > >dnsmasq: junk found in command line > > I think I might be on old Devuan version[1] because /etc/issue says "1". Maybe >

Re: [DNG] [OT] Future codename proposal (was: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable)

Irrwahn wrote on 10.06.2018 19:52: > I wonder if someone could sweet-talk the CSBN of the IAU into > creating the precondition for us to dub Devuan 21.0.0 UTF-8. Corr.: Of course that would be Devuan 22.0.0 UTF-8. :-° signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sig

[DNG] [OT] Future codename proposal (was: Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable)

Irrwahn wrote on 09.06.2018 14:34: > Omedetō gozaimasu, Devuan ASCII! I wonder if someone could sweet-talk the CSBN of the IAU into creating the precondition for us to dub Devuan 21.0.0 UTF-8. -- SCNR, I see myself out. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signat

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 stable

Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 09.06.2018 07:05: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > We are happy to announce that Devuan GNU+Linux 2.0 ASCII Stable is > finally available.[...] Omedetō gozaimasu, Devuan ASCII! Yet another important milestone on the

Re: [DNG] Thunderbird don't open Links in Firefox

kernel panic wrote on 23.05.2018 10:15: > Hello all, > > i use the default Devuan Setup whit XFCE Desktop. My default Mailhandler > is Thunderbird (from Devuan Source) and my default Browser is Firefox > (also from Devuan Source) > > I can't open any Link in a Mail on "a click" I have no glue

Re: [DNG] Two packages I miss in ascii/stretch

lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us wrote on 26.04.2018 21:09: > I'm putting off an upgrade to ascii because it doesn't include two > packages I (still?) use: nagios3 and twinkle. > > * how can I find out why they're not moving forward? > * what would you suggest as a replacement for nagios or twinkle

Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

Irrwahn wrote on 19.04.2018 12:16: > Dear Devuaners, > > the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for > Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but > particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

Florian Zieboll wrote on 19.04.2018 15:32: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:54:05 +0200 > Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: > >> LXDE/SLiM should work well with consolekit on ASCII, provided you have >> at least the following packages installed: >> >> ii consol

Re: [DNG] New policykit-1 packages in ASCII

Florian Zieboll wrote on 19.04.2018 13:42: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:38:46 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > >> thanks for the report. It looks like installing policykit by hand >> might be the solution here, but Irrwhan and Svante are the masters >> here. I guess the latter log you

[DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

Dear Devuaners, the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation

Re: [DNG] broken PDF display

Irrwahn wrote on 23.03.2018 20:04: > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote on 23.03.2018 19:30: >> On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 14:14:47 -0400 >> Haines Brown <hai...@histomat.net> wrote: >> >>> Recently and not in association with any system changes, atril and xpdf >>> n

Re: [DNG] broken PDF display

Adam Sampson wrote on 23.03.2018 19:55: > Haines Brown writes: > >> Recently and not in association with any system changes, atril and xpdf >> no longer displays the content of perhaps half my PDF files. > > I'm seeing the same problem on plain Debian with xpdf and evince

Re: [DNG] broken PDF display

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote on 23.03.2018 19:30: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 14:14:47 -0400 > Haines Brown wrote: > >> Recently and not in association with any system changes, atril and xpdf >> no longer displays the content of perhaps half my PDF files. They see >> all the pages,

Re: [DNG] Dist-upgrade to ACSII error

John Crisp wrote on 23.03.2018 19:04: > Oooops. > > Was upgrading to ACSII and all was going swimmingly until right near the > end (usual Friday then !) > > Seems eudev is in a knot. > > I think it probably needs removing and reinstalling, but that wants to > rip out all the kernels !!! > >

Re: [DNG] dnsmaq on devuan

John Crisp wrote on 23.03.2018 02:22: > I have been having some struggles running dnsmasq on Devuan Jessie. > > After a lot of head scratching I started to realise the init file seems > a touch out of whack. For starters, no pid file is generated when you > start dnsmasq. > > There I was

Re: [DNG] pam_limits or limits.conf different from Debian?

Patrick Dunford wrote on 02.03.2018 13:45: > I did some more tweaking, and basically it looks like I have to set the hard > limit higher as well as the soft limit, in /etc/security/limits.conf > > The hard limit in Debian must be set higher somewhere else, because you don't > have to set that

Re: [DNG] warning: Devuan jessie i386 doesn't boot on i586

Alexander Bochmann wrote on 14.02.2018 21:56: > Ran into this when trying to move an old box with a Via C3 CPU > from Debian jessie (last release to support i586) to Devuan jessie: > System resets before even loading Devuan-built grub. [...] Now that is particularly odd, as grub is not among

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Hleb Valoshka wrote on 14.02.2018 21:54: > On 2/14/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: >>>>> Fresh installations of Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta should not be affected. >>>> Actually no, i've installed Ascii for testing purposes and systemd >>>>

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 14.02.2018 21:35: [...] > On my system it tried to pull in libpolkit-gobject-1-0-systemd. The reason > was aptitude: "twin-trinity" (which is installed) provides > "x-display-manager" was ignored, instead aptitude resolved by some obscure > reason that the not

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Irrwahn wrote on 14.02.2018 19:46: > Hleb Valoshka wrote on 14.02.2018 19:20: >> On 2/14/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: >> >>> Fresh installations of Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta should not be affected. >> >> Actually no, i've installed Ascii for

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Hleb Valoshka wrote on 14.02.2018 19:20: > On 2/14/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: > >> Fresh installations of Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta should not be affected. > > Actually no, i've installed Ascii for testing purposes and systemd > policykit backend was pul

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Didier Kryn wrote on 14.02.2018 17:05: > Le 14/02/2018 à 16:21, Irrwahn a écrit : [...] >> Just go ahead, have your session management of the day!;-P > >     Did that, I reinstalled slim and made it the DM in charge. > Everything works fine, except slim has lost its bea

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

leloft wrote on 14.02.2018 15:46: [...] > I do not know anything like enough to do anything more than comment, but > does the above indicate that the *-backend-systemd is being pulled in > as a result of an unhelpful dependency chain. And why does the > installation of

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Didier Kryn wrote on 14.02.2018 15:54: > Le 14/02/2018 à 15:32, Irrwahn a écrit : >> Removing consolekit isn't mandatory, but yes, in doing so one causes >> same breakage just as you described. > >     Sure it is possible to have both Consolekit and Elogind, but can

Re: [DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

Didier Kryn wrote on 14.02.2018 15:06: > Le 14/02/2018 à 13:37, Irrwahn a écrit : [...] >> 1. Make sure you have at least one of (traditional) consolekit or (new) >> elogind installed. (Note: You can have both installed and active; which >> one is actually used howeve

[DNG] IMPORTANT! How to fix degraded session management after Devuan ASCII upgrade.

PLEASE NOTE: The following only applies to already existing ASCII systems that got upgraded to the newest package versions as present in the repositories. Fresh installations of Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta should not be affected. TL;DR - Make sure you got the correct libpolkit-backend

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Stefan Mark wrote on 14.02.2018 10:55: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > >> **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** >> http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii >> > 404 :) > I think its https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/ Yes. 8^) And @all:

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Happy VUAlentine's Day, Devuan! :) May you manifold and spread all the love that dedicated people put into you! Urban -- Sapere aude! Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 14.02.2018 10:48: > > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a

Re: [DNG] Install one package from Ceres

Hendrik Boom wrote on 14.02.2018 03:05: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 03:39:18PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: [...] >> Modulo any pinning you may have in place, you will still have to use >> the -t option. > > Just wondering -- what would keep it from using the ceres packages when

Re: [DNG] Install one package from Ceres

Hendrik Boom wrote on 13.02.2018 15:22: > How do I install one package from Ceres? Together with its necessary > dependencies, of course. > > I run an ascii system. > > Do I really have to switch my sources.list to Ceres, install it, and > then switch it back to ascii? Not switch, but

Re: [DNG] dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument

J. Fahrner wrote on 13.02.2018 14:55: > Am 2018-02-13 13:50, schrieb Irrwahn: >> That message can safely be ignored. >> >> This is caused by the dbus startup from script(s) /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ >> . >> It basically means that dbus did not find systemd upon l

Re: [DNG] dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument

J. Fahrner wrote on 13.02.2018 13:30: > My .xsession-errors has the following warning > > dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring > --systemd > argument > > Any ideas what's causing this? Is there some wrong config file around? That message can safely be

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

J. Fahrner wrote on 12.02.2018 18:18: > Am 2018-02-12 18:12, schrieb KatolaZ: >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 06:07:01PM +0100, J. Fahrner wrote: >>> Am 2018-02-12 03:21, schrieb Alessandro Selli: You will probably be able to work out this problem issuing the following command:

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

J. Fahrner wrote on 12.02.2018 18:08: > Am 2018-02-12 16:35, schrieb Irrwahn: >>> $ dpkg -l | fgrep libpolkit-backend >>> rc libpolkit-backend-1-0:i3860.105-9+devuan1 >>> i386 PolicyKit backend API >>> ii libpolkit-backend

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

J. Fahrner wrote on 12.02.2018 16:22: > Am 2018-02-12 16:04, schrieb Irrwahn: >> Assuming you are on an ASCII system: > > Yes. > >> I strongly suspect this is linked to the recent addition of elogind >> to the repositories and the consequential changes to policyk

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

J. Fahrner wrote on 12.02.2018 16:19: > Am 2018-02-12 16:05, schrieb Hleb Valoshka: >> What Devuan version do you run? Ascii, don't you? > > Yes, ascii. > >> Show output of dpkg -l | grep libpolkit-backend > > $ dpkg -l | fgrep libpolkit-backend > rc libpolkit-backend-1-0:i386

Re: [DNG] Reboot through a ConsoleKit DBus message as user

J. Fahrner wrote on 12.02.2018 15:41: > Hi, > I have a small python gui script rebooting,shutdown,suspend. This sends > dbus messages to consolekit and is no longer working since a recent > update. > > Rebooting is done as: > > $ dbus-send --system --print-reply

Re: [DNG] Minor Ascii upgrade fixes ?

dev wrote on 06.02.2018 16:28: > > > On 02/06/2018 09:15 AM, Irrwahn wrote: >> In xfce4-terminal: Right click --> Preferences --> Colors. > > Thanks, this is great for setting the terminal colors but I don't see a > way to change the "window fram

Re: [DNG] Minor Ascii upgrade fixes ?

dev wrote on 06.02.2018 16:03: [...] > * I'm running xfce-terminal on LXDE. Anyone know how to change the > terminal color scheme? I thought xfce4-appearance-settings > would do, but I have "dusk" selected and the terminal is still > white: https://imgur.com/a/v8hHd In xfce4-terminal: Right

Re: [DNG] desktop screen recording with sound?

dev wrote on 02.02.2018 16:23: [...] > The 14.04 PPA [...]10:2.6.5-dmo1 [...] Dev, please forgive me if may appear rude, but that looks like a terrible Frankenmess! You'd probably be much better off updating your Devuan Jessie to Devuan Ascii, which offers SimpleScreenRecorder. (BTW, I

Re: [DNG] solved, Re: upgraded to Ascii, but now sqwebmail isn't working

Gregory Nowak wrote on 01.02.2018 00:09: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 05:03:54PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> The bad news is that now sqwebmail isn't working, and it still did >> after my upgrade to jessie. > > I have this solved thanks to a tip from the courier-sqwebmail > listwhich pointed me

Re: [DNG] desktop screen recording with sound?

dev wrote on 31.01.2018 17:24: > > > On 01/31/2018 09:15 AM, Irrwahn wrote: > >> >> As you seem to have pulseaudio (at least partially) installed > > Thanks, I think some of it was required for the apulse package in > firefox. Not sure. > >

Re: [DNG] desktop screen recording with sound?

dev wrote on 31.01.2018 15:40: > I have some online classes which are Flash based "webinars" that I'd > like to save for viewing on my train/bus commute. gtk-recordmydesktop > works for the video part but I can't record any audio. I'm using > straight ALSA on my Devuan system and tried setting

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3

Hendrik Boom wrote on 20.01.2018 20:33: > I gather from the extracts provided by the spam sites Google thinks are > relevant to devuan that there is a devuan for the Raspberry Pi. > > Where do I find it? How do I install it? Can I install and try out > Ascii? or just Jessie? Hendrik,

Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites

Hendrik Boom wrote on 20.01.2018 20:31: > I googles "devuan ascii" today and in the top few finds there were three > spam sites -- sites which either jut advertised expensive junk, or else > pretended to be my ISP doing a survey and as a reward offering > expensive junk such as (probably fake)

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Hleb Valoshka wrote on 19.01.2018 20:44: > On 1/19/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: >> I think that has to be done anyway, because currently one cannot >> have policykit without having consolekit installed with it, due to >> the "Depends". T

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

KatolaZ wrote on 19.01.2018 19:05: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 06:48:42PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> In my mind, the whole mess looks more like a gigantic game of nuclear >> whack-a-mole, and the only winning move is not to play. (The optimist >>

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

KatolaZ wrote on 19.01.2018 17:36: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:17:28PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> [...], because currently one cannot >> have policykit without having consolekit installed with it, due to >> the "Depends". The package should have something akin to:

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Adam Borowski wrote on 19.01.2018 15:56: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:17:28PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> I think that has to be done anyway, because currently one cannot >> have policykit without having consolekit installed with it, due to >> the "Depends". The pac

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Hleb Valoshka wrote on 19.01.2018 13:28: > On 1/19/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: >> Scenario 1: >> --- >> │ PAM profiles to enable: >> │ >> │[*] Unix authentication >> │[*] Authenticate using SSH keys and start ssh-

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Andreas Messer wrote on 19.01.2018 07:16: > That seems strange. loginctl is a elogind command and when elogind does not > know about the session loginctl should reject or ask for auth. I'll dig into > this a little bit more. Probably time to setup a vm. So, I did a little more testing: * Fresh

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Andreas Messer wrote on 19.01.2018 07:16: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:26:59PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> Outcome is the same when logged in via a VT console, while elogind >> is fully enabled (and ck2 and pk installed). With elogind disabled >> (ck+pk only), no extra aut

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 11:34: > Le 18/01/2018 à 11:22, Irrwahn a écrit : >> Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: >> [...] >>>     Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to >>> make a more significant test. I'm using xf

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: [...] > >     Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to > make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. Didier, consolekit2 is available in experimental, installs cleanly in ascii. Relevant sources.list line: deb

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Hleb Valoshka wrote on 17.01.2018 20:54: > On 1/17/18, Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: > >> * screen sessions killed on logout >> (regression, works with elogind disabled!) > > This is because elogind is designed to be logind replacement (and > actu

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

Didier Kryn wrote on 17.01.2018 11:59: > Le 15/01/2018 à 11:30, KatolaZ a écrit : >> The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed" > >     I've added this repository to my sources.list: > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free > > Also added

Re: [DNG] Help with Spectre and Meltdown

marc wrote on 17.01.2018 07:27: [...] > * Stop running code which you don't trust. That comes in two forms: > Don't enable javascript on your browser, and don't use cloud-based > systems or virtual hosts. Those things you don't want to do anyway > if you care about security. > > Not sure how

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

Andreas Messer wrote on 16.01.2018 22:24: > since we have to test elogind now with various setups, KatolaZ asked me to > write a short guide what needs to be tested. So here we go: [snipped procedure] I gave it a quick spin on my ascii VM with lightdm and XFCE: 1. Simply installing elogind

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

KatolaZ wrote on 15.01.2018 11:30: > Dear D1rs, > > as recently discussed, our Andreas Messer has worked on packaging > elogind in the last few days. elogind is a replacement for the > "logind" systemd component, maintained by the Gentoo folks, and should > in theory allow packages which need

Re: [DNG] request: please evaluate/provide elogind-or-other ASAP

Irrwahn wrote on 05.01.2018 08:32: [...] > From https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394 > I gather that it is possible to configure this in sd-logind, > so I simply assume the same holds for elogind as well. > > However, in message #256 in that same thread Mar

Re: [DNG] request: please evaluate/provide elogind-or-other ASAP

Andreas Messer wrote on 05.01.2018 07:55: > Hi Adam, > > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 11:44:25PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >> [...] >> Thus: could you guys please prioritize work on elogind or some alternative? > > Just started yesterday: https://git.devuan.org/amesser/elogind. There was > already

Re: [DNG] Sakura: was ROXterm flickers in ascii

Steve Litt wrote on 03.01.2018 16:21: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 17:13:50 +0100 > Irrwahn <irrw...@freenet.de> wrote: > >> In case you become interested in a replacement with a similar >> feature set, yet still small-ish footprint and reasonable list >> of dependenc

Re: [DNG] ROXterm flickers in ascii

Adam Borowski wrote on 03.01.2018 00:31: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:03:21PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> According to: >> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=roxterm=names=all=all >> there are roxterm packages in Debian Jessie and Sid, but I have no >> clue why

Re: [DNG] ROXterm flickers in ascii

Didier Kryn wrote on 02.01.2018 17:37: > Le 02/01/2018 à 17:13, Irrwahn a écrit : [...] >> In case you become interested in a replacement with a similar >> feature set, yet still small-ish footprint and reasonable list >> of dependencies: I can recommend sakura! I've been usin

Re: [DNG] ROXterm flickers in ascii

Hendrik Boom wrote on 02.01.2018 16:46: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 11:04:32AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: >> Le 02/01/2018 à 03:40, Hendrik Boom a écrit : >>> I've been using ROXterm in Devuan ascii. [...] >>     In which repository did you find roxterm? I can find rox-filer (which >> needs some

Re: [DNG] lprng in ascii

Hendrik Boom wrote on 02.01.2018 15:38: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 08:02:37AM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> Hendrik Boom wrote on 02.01.2018 03:49: >>> lprng is only partially installed after upgrade. Aptitude and apt keep >>> telling me this. However, it seems to work f

Re: [DNG] Ascii packages with dependency on libsystemd0 ?

Mike Tubby wrote on 02.01.2018 10:11: > All, > > Over the new year holiday I decided to debootstrap ascii on to our ARM-based > vehicle router and have it working, which is good, however when installing > openssh-server I notice that it pulled in libsystemd0: [...] >   libkrb5support0

Re: [DNG] Bad package versions in ascii

J. Fahrner wrote on 02.01.2018 08:16: > Hi, > there are several packages in ascii with bad package versions. In later > releases versions should NEVER be lower than in former releases. Package > versions have to be ascending. > > On my system the following packages were not upgraded because of

Re: [DNG] lprng in ascii

Hendrik Boom wrote on 02.01.2018 03:49: > lprng is only partially installed after upgrade. Aptitude and apt keep > telling me this. However, it seems to work fine, and I have no problems > talking to my postscript laser printer. > > lprng's line in interactive aptitude is: > > Chlprng

Re: [DNG] Happy New Year!

A happy and successful year 12018 (sic!) to all Devuanitas, Devuanitos, Devuanistas, Devuaneros, Devuanii, DevuanerInnen, Devuan-chans, Devuan-kuns, Devuanerds, Devuanions, Devuanijsjes, Devuanskis, Devuanskovs, wherever and whatever you are! Keep rocking the fork! ;o) -- Sapere aude!

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

KatolaZ wrote on 27.11.2017 12:11: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:42:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: [SNIP] >> >> apt-get -t experimental install eudev >> >> currently, the full version of the package is 3.2.2-devuan2.7 [SNIP] > > A more extensive testing of istallation in different multiarch >

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:16:41 +0100, Katolaz wrote: > Hi All, > > we have just built updated dbus packages for ascii. They are still in > experimental: > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main > > and the current version number is 1.10.18-1+devuan2.2. This build > should

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