[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread steve.brennon
Rich? Yes. I own Tine and Eternity. But I don't have any money honey. I don't want it. Just enough to to eat that is all. They can stuff their money right up their fat ugly arse until they choke on it. I am a Mystic or Miss-Tick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Ask Emp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
Evolution is such a powerful mechanism and framework that explains incredible complexity through trial an error, through adaptation. I speculate (worth a spatoon contents of value) that something could plausible unfolded on the physical, geological, and cosmological level -- awesome mind bending

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > My idea of the universe is an enormous, eternal operating > system. It was never created, and it never ends, thus > there is no need to postulate a "creator." It just is. > I see no need to postulate an "intelligence" behind the > functioni

[FairfieldLife] 300 year oral traditions -- was Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > Oral for 300 years. Similar discussion a week or ago on > > Christianity. > > > > I was thinking of experiences in large corporations > > (Dilbert type companies -- and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Majority, ' Tax the Rich and preserve Medicare & Social Security '

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > This new Quinnipiac University poll > ame=domesticNews> shows the strongly populist--and traditionally > Democratic--leanings of Americans when it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > My idea of the universe is an enormous, eternal operating > system. It was never created, and it never ends, thus > there is no need to postulate a "creator." It just is. A mystery then. > I see no need to postulate an "intelligence" be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > thats the Primary mistake of the Intellect > > I found this phrase in the movement to be offensive. Oh, come *on*. You don't have to agree with it, but there's zero r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Ah. I see my post worked exactly as intended. How sad that he has to pretend he "intended" to have me respond to that post. Anything to avoid confronting his hypocrisy, I guess. (Oh-oh, yes, he's the Great Pretender, Adrift in a world o

[FairfieldLife] 300 year oral traditions -- was Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > Oral for 300 years. Similar discussion a week or ago on > Christianity. > > I was thinking of experiences in large corporations > (Dilbert type companies -- and I have seen few large > ones that are not Dilbert type companies at times, o

[FairfieldLife] 20 Somethings Maybe Not so Dumb After All

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
"They'd rather be poorer and have free time than have a lot of money." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36152262/ns/business-washington_post/

[FairfieldLife] Finnish post to start [transmitting] digital [snail] mail trial

2010-04-02 Thread It's just a ride
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jTlosv9uqU7jQUMPogpOKouzppMA By Laura Vinha (AFP) – 1 day ago HELSINKI — Love letters, payslips and overdue bills will not be spared when Finland's post starts opening mail and sending scanned copies to selected recipients in a trial aimed at cut

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-04-02 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Mar 27 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 03 00:00:00 2010 481 messages as of (UTC) Fri Apr 02 23:32:36 2010 50 authfriend 48 TurquoiseB 41 tartbrain 38 WillyTex 33 Bhairitu 27 emptybill 27 curtisdeltablues 25

[FairfieldLife] The Four Little PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread emptybill
This explanation was in the body of the text. This must make it guhya-mantra - the obscurity of the obvious. EU democracies face this threat because deficit spending cannot sustain an economy long-term. At some point, foreign lenders will resist additional financing— a problem already faced b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > I don't think anyone is consciously functioning on a quantum level of anything. I think we are not designed for that by evolution. We have a limited range of awareness for good reasons, we have only so much ability to be aware of s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread It's just a ride
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:30 PM, emptybill wrote: > > Don't take it personally. PIGS is an acronym for Portugal, Ireland, > Greece, Spain. > > Actually, it's PIIGS: Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain. Now in the US it's California, Illinois, New York and a growing list of states. A Mon

[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > Ask EmptyBill, he's the one that posted that not me. No I don't > > > think Europeans are pigs but I think that many of the rich are. > > > Are you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bal Gangadhar Tilak

2010-04-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > carde: > > Tilak: > > > The Rig Veda describes the geography of Northern India, > so, I wonder why the Vedas don't mention a migration > from somewhere else. If the Aryan speakers came from > Siberia, wouldn't they have said somethin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
See what you get for being a bit too obscure? ;-) emptybill wrote: > Don't take it personally. PIGS is an acronym for Portugal, Ireland, > Greece, Spain. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "steve.brennon" > wrote: > >> I am from Europe. Am I a pig ? >> I wonder what it is that m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> Ask EmptyBill, he's the one that posted that not me. No I don't >> think Europeans are pigs but I think that many of the rich are. >> Are you also rich? ;-) >> > > If I'm European now (and a trip back to the

[FairfieldLife] Teabagger Cartoon of the Day - 4/2/10

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
Cartoon link: http://www.bartcop.com/db100402.gif

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: > On Apr 2, 2010, at 5:26 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >>> Can you imagine Microsoft making Windows similarly dual-bootable >>> for other OS's? No way! >>> >> I have had multi-OS-bootable systems on Windows platforms >> since since Win3. As far as I know, multi-OS-boot has been >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-02 Thread Vaj
On Apr 2, 2010, at 5:26 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Can you imagine Microsoft making Windows similarly dual-bootable > > for other OS's? No way! > > I have had multi-OS-bootable systems on Windows platforms > since since Win3. As far as I know, multi-OS-boot has been > supported by Microsoft sinc

[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread emptybill
Don't take it personally. PIGS is an acronym for Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "steve.brennon" wrote: > > I am from Europe. Am I a pig ? > I wonder what it is that makes Americans so loved in the world. Never > mind, China will soon be the Economic Cl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > I think it would be a cold day in hell before Steve Jobs would > > ever let a company put a dual boot on an iPhone. ;-) > > They call it "jailbreaking". It's definitely not something Apple > officially likes; every iPhone OS upgrade removes

[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Ask EmptyBill, he's the one that posted that not me. No I don't > think Europeans are pigs but I think that many of the rich are. > Are you also rich? ;-) If I'm European now (and a trip back to the US proved that once and for all) and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-02 Thread Vaj
On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > Vaj wrote: > > > > On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> I don't know but probably because it varies from device to device. > >> > >> You did realize the article was an April Fools joke? ;-) > > > > > > No I just scanned it briefly. Duh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
Ask EmptyBill, he's the one that posted that not me. No I don't think Europeans are pigs but I think that many of the rich are. Are you also rich? ;-) steve.brennon wrote: > I am from Europe. Am I a pig ? > I wonder what it is that makes Americans so loved in the world. Never > mind, China w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread yifuxero
I agree: the mind/brain has a QM interface; but nobody seems to know exactly how it works or manifests into psychic phenomena or impacts the ordinary world. Penrose has changed his hypotheses several times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Curtis, > > Do you agree th

[FairfieldLife] Over 20 Years Of David Koch’s Polluter Front Groups

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
TIMELINE: From Promoting Acid Rain To Climate Denial, Over 20 Years Of David Koch's Polluter Front Groups The corporate-backed front group Americans for Prosperity (AFP) is again leading the charge for industry against envi

[FairfieldLife] new TM film: 'Saving the Disposable Ones'

2010-04-02 Thread merlin
David Lynch Foundation world premiere of new film: 'Saving the Disposable Ones' - Transcendental Meditation helping Colombian children David Lynch Foundation, USA1 April 2010 On April 8th, the David Lynch Foundation will premiere a new documentary, 'Saving the Disposable Ones,' produced an

[FairfieldLife] Pope's preacher - another Vatican nutcase

2010-04-02 Thread Yifu Xero
http://www.cantalamessa.org/en/photos.php

[FairfieldLife] Transcendence

2010-04-02 Thread steve.brennon
What do you know about Transcendence, have you ever been there where time does not encroach upon its encompass in the deepest bowled of the ALL where we come to know our primordial SELF ? If you have then tell me what it is like there, and we can compare notes. Or are you all talk and no substance

[FairfieldLife] Re: and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread steve.brennon
I am from Europe. Am I a pig ? I wonder what it is that makes Americans so loved in the world. Never mind, China will soon be the Economic Clout. It could not be any worse could it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: ... the PIGS of Europe ...

[FairfieldLife] Crucifixion: A Medical Perspective

2010-04-02 Thread John
The ultimate test of transcendence? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-EVfxABSoU&NR=1

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Always neatsokeeno to jaw witcha. Always feels like were sipping a beer somewhere. The excitation from a photon has been measured in the lab -- though it must be said that it takes up to six of them to get the retina to "believe that it actually happened," since the rods and cones do

[FairfieldLife] Top 10 Conservative Anti-Gay Activists Caught Being Gay

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
Top 10 Conservative Anti-Gay Activists Caught Being Gay By Joanne | Los Angeles In light of prominent anti-gay activist Roy Ashburn recently being caught walking out of a gay bar, and proving once again that conservative voters have little to no Gaydar,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> I don't know but probably because it varies from device to device. >> >> You did realize the article was an April Fools joke? ;-) > > > No I just scanned it briefly. Duh! > > It seemed plausible since you can install Linux on most Appl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Private sector hiring lifts March payrolls at fastest rate in 3 yrs

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
I'd like to see a breakdown of exactly what these new jobs were. We know that 48K of them were government temp workers for the census. How many 50 or older people were hired for jobs in the profession they previously worked in? There is no "next big thing" that will create new jobs. People i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Soviet Socialism, American Leftists, and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
emptybill wrote: > Interestingly, you don't have to look as far as Europe to find such > as doomsday scenario. Leftists in California have driven the state to > the brink of bankruptcy with a deficit of $20 billion > x> . I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Verizon to introduce dual-boot iPhone with Android

2010-04-02 Thread Vaj
On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I don't know but probably because it varies from device to device. You did realize the article was an April Fools joke? ;-) No I just scanned it briefly. Duh! It seemed plausible since you can install Linux on most Apple device, e.g. the iPod o

[FairfieldLife] Private sector hiring lifts March payrolls at fastest rate in 3 yrs

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
(Reuters) - U.S. employers created jobs in March at the fastest rate in three years as private firms stepped up hiring, the strongest signal yet that the economic recovery is on a solid footing and needs less government help. Non-farm payrolls rose 162,000 and the unemployment rate held steady a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Curtis, > > Do you agree that the human nervous system can directly deal with the quantum > level? I cite that a single photon can impact the retina and be a cause of a > triggering. Is that something we are conscious of? If so for p

[FairfieldLife] Frivolous Health Care Reform Lawsuit's Scarce Defenders

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
Frivolous Health Care Reform Lawsuit's Scarce Defenders Steve Benen - Washington Monthly - March 31, 2010 Finding an ambitious, far-right state attorney general willing to waste tax dollars challenging the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act is easy. Finding legal experts who th

[FairfieldLife] Soviet Socialism, American Leftists, and European PIGS

2010-04-02 Thread emptybill
But ... but ... left is right and right is wrong ... right? Soviet Socialism, American Leftists, and European PIGS

[FairfieldLife] Obama Zombies-youtube book review.

2010-04-02 Thread BillyG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajn5t9YVVDc More Buying Choices 18 used & new from $14.61 Have one to sell? Sell yours her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, Do you agree that the human nervous system can directly deal with the quantum level? I cite that a single photon can impact the retina and be a cause of a triggering. If so for photons, why not other "tiny stuff" impacting "other parts" of the nervous system? We now know that even bu

Re: [FairfieldLife] The sayings of APU

2010-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
curtisdeltablues wrote: > In light of some deep conversations here I would like to offer my source of > inspiration and solace in this complex and often confusing world. This voice > somehow calms my restless spirit and brings me back to a sense of my place in > the universe: > > http://www.s

[FairfieldLife] The sayings of APU

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
In light of some deep conversations here I would like to offer my source of inspiration and solace in this complex and often confusing world. This voice somehow calms my restless spirit and brings me back to a sense of my place in the universe: http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Apu_Simpsons_Sounds

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: States Wage Constitutional ObamaCare Legal War

2010-04-02 Thread WLeed3
From: i...@ameripac.org To: wle...@aol.com Sent: 4/2/2010 11:45:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: States Wage Constitutional ObamaCare Legal War States Wage Constitutional ObamaCare Legal WarAmericans Are Fighting Back >From Outside-The-Beltw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: ME: What an excellent response! I will try to keep up. > [snip] > > With existence the question is "where do we start?" > > What are your first principles of experience. I have > > chosen matter as my starting place and by kicking a s

[FairfieldLife] Poll: Majority, ' Tax the Rich and preserve Medicare & Social Security '

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
This new Quinnipiac University poll shows the strongly populist--and traditionally Democratic--leanings of Americans when it comes to bread and butter issues. The Quinnipiac University poll found that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: snip ME: Anyhooo...I am not an extreme skeptic. Starting with the physical world suites me fine. > > > Well yeah! If I was getting comped fine suites I too would be very fine > indeed with the physical world! Nice catch, I only wish sp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > > >> here and now. > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a concept, a conclusion we dra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > > >> here and now. > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a concept, a conclusion we draw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > I'm guessing it involves more than just sitting in silence, especially when > you come back to the world of language required to discuss it. > > Yes, and some mo

[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow to new GOP Sen Scott Brown: "Stop Lying"

2010-04-02 Thread do.rflex
FILE UNDER: Endlessly Lying Republicans, Clown Shoes Rachel Maddow is fed up with Scott Brown's fundraising lie that she's running against him, and she's not afraid to use the word "lying" to make her point. (The point being, of course, that he's lying.) Video here: http://www.dailykos.com/st

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > > >> here and now. > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a concept, a conclusion we draw from o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > > >> here and now. > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a concept, a conclusion we draw from o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > wrote: > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > >> here and now. > > wrote: > > > It is a concept, a conclusion we draw from our actual > > perceptions and sensations and mental awareness. It is not > > a sel

[FairfieldLife] Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-02 Thread emptybill
This "rule" is carried over by oral tradition in Theravada and is adhered to today. Just the opposite among Mahayana/Vajrayana lineages. However, all of their codifications were "discovered" later. Unfortunately we don't historically know a lot more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shuk

[FairfieldLife] Obama Zombies-How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation!

2010-04-02 Thread BillyG
[Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
Ah. I see my post worked exactly as intended. THE CORRECTOR is out for the week. She's so predictable. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Why is it so impossible for you to deal with someone who >

[FairfieldLife] Re: "This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care."

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
Yeah, well, um, we'll fix his goose, I mean like we will just say like, um, if anyone voted for McCloud we just won't initiate them. They can stand in line around outside of the center in the rain with their fruit and flowers -- begging to be initiated-- and we will just say "No" -- we just giv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Why is it so impossible for you to deal with someone who > believes differently than you do without treating them > as an inferior who is "missing" something you are not? The more interesting question is why Barry imagines Buck does this

[FairfieldLife] "This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care."

2010-04-02 Thread BillyG
Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care A Mount Dora doctor posted a sign telling Obama health care supporters to go elsewhere. [Sign at the office door of Dr. Jack Cassell, a Mount Dora urologist.] Sign at the office door of Dr. Jack Cassell, a Mount Dora urologist. (Photo b

[FairfieldLife] 300 year oral traditions -- was Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
I have always bought the oral tradition stuff from many ancient cultures as least as a plausible hypothesis. But to keep really complex, interrelated, multiple interpretational stuff all straight - as the source intended (greeks, Bhudda, Christ, Shankara), along with the tragedy of knowledge pr

[FairfieldLife] Worlds and worlds, forever and ever, amen (was Sam Harris)

2010-04-02 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > The "many worlds"? That's as if to say "the cat in the > > proverbial quantum mechanical box is BOTH dead AND alive > > at the same time", no? > > No. The many worlds does away wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] 300 year oral traditions -- was Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-02 Thread Vaj
On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:41 AM, tartbrain wrote: And if they cannot, how could a group of people who never saw a flush toilet -- with lots of vested interest, intrigue and politics going on, possibly keep totally on message for 300 years. We have examples of Buddhist teachings relatively re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > I'm guessing it involves more than just sitting in silence, > > especially when you come back to the world of language > > required to discuss it. > > Yes, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > I'm guessing it involves more than just sitting in silence, especially when you come back to the world of language required to discuss it. > > > Yes, and some more effective spiritual practice to make up for what you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > wrote: > > >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the > >> here and now. > > wrote: > > > It is a concept, a conclusion we draw from our actual > > perceptions and sensations and mental awareness. It is not > > a s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-02 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > [snip] > > > > The interest of many of the early quantum theorists in > > > mysticism isn't at all surprising. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wr

[FairfieldLife] 300 year oral traditions -- was Re: The History of Om/How about how to chant it?

2010-04-02 Thread tartbrain
Oral for 300 years. Similar discussion a week or ago on Christianity. I was thinking of experiences in large corporations (Dilbert type companies -- and I have seen few large ones that are not Dilbert type companies at times, on some levels). Even for three weeks, even with vast oral, e-mail e

[FairfieldLife] Self Supporting Ontological Identities - was Deepak Chopra failed etc

2010-04-02 Thread PaliGap
wrote: >> Existence itself is your own direct experience in the >> here and now. wrote: > It is a concept, a conclusion we draw from our actual > perceptions and sensations and mental awareness. It is not > a self supporting ontological identity like matter. ..."a self supporting ontolo

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Missing Caveat Emptor

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > That's a neat experience. But you know, there is probably an > explanation for such an experience, but I don't really care to > figure it out. But probably there is an explanation if one is > so inclined. The thing is,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris and Michael Shermer debate Deepak and Jean Houston

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > Hoo boy. I've been away from the conversation till now, so I am > sorry if my comments don't quite fit in, but First > thanks for your reply. Some comments below: And thanks for yours. I don't have time to d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra failed to prove existence of God to atheists

2010-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
Impressive? More like silly. Your atheist is too much of a pushover for dumb, emotional ideas. On the whole, John Carpenter did the dialog much better in "Dark Star," as Lt. Doolittle tries to talk a bomb out of exploding while still attached to the spaceship: Doolittle: Hello, Bomb? Are you wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation

2010-04-02 Thread merudanda
nd Lut --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > New Study Outlines Differences Among Types of Meditation > Please cite this article in press as: Travis, F., & Shear, J. Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending:Categories to organize meditations fro