Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 3:55 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: The tools I downloaded all required me to play the file in some other program in order to get the waveform (instead of reading it directly from the file). This means that those programs were capturing the output from my soundcard, which means that this output

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.09.2005 23:39 Uhr Lee Actor wrote: You are right that the software of necessity must analyze the digital stream before the D/A conversion, Johannes. However, real-time playback is not necessary to do a spectrum analysis. I realize that. However, I got the impressions that David

Re: [Finale] Moving System to New Page

2005-09-29 Thread Jacki B.
on 9/28/05 12:50 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Yep, there's an incredibly easy way to do this. In the Page Layout tool, just right-click (or control-click on a Mac) the system's upper-left handle and choose Insert Page Break. THANK you (and everyone else who answered!) - I knew there had to be

[Finale] OT: More Flaws in Firefox Than IE

2005-09-29 Thread Phil Daley
FYI: More Flaws in Firefox Than IE, Symantec Says News Story by Todd R. Weiss SEPTEMBER 26, 2005 (COMPUTERWORLD) - In its semiannual report about Internet security threats, released last week, IT security vendor Symantec Corp. said the open-source Firefox Web browser had more confirmed

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Sep 2005 at 12:39, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 28.09.2005 23:39 Uhr Lee Actor wrote: You are right that the software of necessity must analyze the digital stream before the D/A conversion, Johannes. However, real-time playback is not necessary to do a spectrum analysis. I realize

Re: [Finale] OT: More Flaws in Firefox Than IE REBUTTAL (VERY LONG)

2005-09-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Sep 2005 at 12:58, Phil Daley wrote: FYI: More Flaws in Firefox Than IE, Symantec Says News Story by Todd R. Weiss This is old news. And it's malarkey. The following is a lengthy post I made in another forum in response to reading Symantec's security report (which was really a

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20:29 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: I think you certainly recognize that if the spectrograph analyzer is looking at the playback of the file rather than the file itself that the result will include distortion introduced by my soundcard. David, I am still absolutely convinced that your

[Finale] Edit left side of word extension?

2005-09-29 Thread Brad Beyenhof
So I've got a word extension that looks a little wierd. The lyric it's attached to is pretty close to the measure's right barline, and the barline is stretching across staves so that the extension line just barely intersects the group barline. I'd like to be able to move the left side of the word

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Sep 2005 at 21:21, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 20:29 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: I think you certainly recognize that if the spectrograph analyzer is looking at the playback of the file rather than the file itself that the result will include distortion introduced by my soundcard. I

Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?

2005-09-29 Thread Burt Fenner
I would get rid of the extension and use a custom line. BF Brad Beyenhof wrote: So I've got a word extension that looks a little wierd. The lyric it's attached to is pretty close to the measure's right barline, and the barline is stretching across staves so that the extension line just barely

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 22:27 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Johannes, you're just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Thanks for keeping your voice down. (You manage to become really offensive in the course of any discussion. Why is that? Is this some kind of ego trip you have been on for the last few years? I for one am

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Sep 2005 at 23:11, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 22:27 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Johannes, you're just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Thanks for keeping your voice down. (You manage to become really offensive in the course of any discussion. Why is that? Is this some kind of ego trip you

Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?

2005-09-29 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 9/29/05, Burt Fenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof wrote: I'd like to be able to move the left side of the word extensionto the right, because a) the editor of this project has asked me to and b) the collision looks absurd, even if I hadn't been instructed to fix it. I would

Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?

2005-09-29 Thread Barbara Touburg
Sure, select it and press delete (choose lyrics - edit word extensions first of course) - Original Message - From: Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension? On 9/29/05, Burt

Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?

2005-09-29 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 9/29/05, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, select it and press delete (choose lyrics - edit word extensions first of course) Thanks! Sometimes I'm looking so hard for a workaround that I don't even see the things that are staring me in the face... thanks for pointing out my

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 29.09.2005 23:41 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: So they listen for the soundcard input? How did you feed the MP3 into that? I had to initiate playback in an MP3 player, and tell it what device to listen to. Yes, but you still haven't answered my question: how did the output get to the

Re: [Finale] Edit left side of word extension?

2005-09-29 Thread Chuck Israels
On Sep 29, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 9/29/05, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, select it and press delete (choose lyrics - edit word extensions first of course) Thanks! Sometimes I'm looking so hard for a workaround that I don't even see the things that are

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2005 at 1:07, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 29.09.2005 23:41 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: So they listen for the soundcard input? How did you feed the MP3 into that? I had to initiate playback in an MP3 player, and tell it what device to listen to. Yes, but you still haven't

RE: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Lee Actor
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johannes Gebauer Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:08 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison On 29.09.2005 23:41 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: So they listen for

RE: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread David W. Fenton
On 29 Sep 2005 at 17:20, Lee Actor wrote: On the technical point under discussion, you are of course 100% absolutely correct. The software must listen to the digital data stream going into the sound card; the only output from the sound card is the post D/A analog waveform sent to the

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Randolph Peters
At 1:07 AM +0200 9/30/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Your post, on the other hand, was, imho, completely unacceptable on a forum like this, and I really ask you to come to your senses and learn some manners. It really p§$%$sses me off how you treat others, including me, who only tried to help

RE: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:43 PM 9/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Sep 2005 at 17:20, Lee Actor wrote: On the technical point under discussion, you are of course 100% absolutely correct. The software must listen to the digital data stream going into the sound card; the only output from the sound card is

Re: [Finale] Re: Secondary Beam Breaks

2005-09-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Sep 27, 2005, at 7:10 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, that prompts a thought. Why not make the first note a tuplet, but a 16th note in the time of three 32nds? Then with the MIDI tool, reduce the duration by 1/3. Would that actually work? Have you tried this yet? Sounds to me like it

Re: [Finale] OT: MP3 Compression Comparison

2005-09-29 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 1:30 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote: Yes, but you still haven't answered my question: how did the output get to the input? Inside or outside the computer? Ie, did you connect the output to the input? The soundcard is INSIDE the computer. It's a device that is part of the audio interface of