I had not seen your query previous to this posting.
This spacing is controlled by the TableFootnote box that exists by default
on the reference page (usually the first one). If it has been deleted you
can just create a new blank portrait document (File>New>Document>Portrait).
Go the first refer
For troubleshooting, first make sure you clear the TOC entries from the
previous generate so that you know there is nothing that is remaining in the
TOC that you aren't sure came from the current generate.
If that doesn't result in something useful, check the box that creates
hyperlinks in the TOC
I had not seen your query previous to this posting.
This spacing is controlled by the TableFootnote box that exists by default
on the reference page (usually the first one). If it has been deleted you
can just create a new blank portrait document (File>New>Document>Portrait).
Go the first refere
For troubleshooting, first make sure you clear the TOC entries from the
previous generate so that you know there is nothing that is remaining in the
TOC that you aren't sure came from the current generate.
If that doesn't result in something useful, check the box that creates
hyperlinks in the TOC
This might be the perfect time for this question:
In a structured xml document we've defined an element called that is used
to contain glyphs that are known to exist in Arial Unicode MS. Most of the rest
of the document text is in Arial. We have the element mapping to a
character tag called u
This might be the perfect time for this question:
In a structured xml document we've defined an element called that is used
to contain glyphs that are known to exist in Arial Unicode MS. Most of the rest
of the document text is in Arial. We have the element mapping to a
character tag called u
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mattrsullivan.com <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Craig Ede wrote:
Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like
overkill.
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Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like
overkill. When editing the maker.ini file it is a good idea to make a copy
in the same location. I name the copy maker.ini.ORIG, so I can use that to
get back to the original settings if they are needed.
This use of two structa
gt; <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
mattrsullivan.com <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Craig Ede wrote:
Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like
overkill.
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Reinstalling completely to fix the maker.ini files seems a bit like
overkill. When editing the maker.ini file it is a good idea to make a copy
in the same location. I name the copy maker.ini.ORIG, so I can use that to
get back to the original settings if they are needed.
This use of two structap
Amen to that!
Craig
-Original Message-
And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with
an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your
needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever
changes you nee
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found
that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to
implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about
DITA, but all the basics are there.
http://www.amazon.com/Intro
This distinction between a narrative and topics is a good one.
I just worked through a series of manuals that were written as narratives.
There was a lot of repeated content and procedures that were actually four or
five procedures mixed together and then occurring later with the mixture
sl
Amen to that!
Craig
-Original Message-
And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with
an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your
needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever
changes you nee
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found
that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to
implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about
DITA, but all the basics are there.
http://www.amazon.com/Introd
This distinction between a narrative and topics is a good one.
I just worked through a series of manuals that were written as narratives.
There was a lot of repeated content and procedures that were actually four or
five procedures mixed together and then occurring later with the mixture
sli
Okay, I'll start from the assumption that DITA or Docbook as standards are
the way to go if you don't want to spend all kinds of time and money on
development. Of course changing to DITA or Docbook will cost time and money,
too. Just less of both.
So which: DITA or Docbook
DITA is much more
Okay, I'll start from the assumption that DITA or Docbook as standards are
the way to go if you don't want to spend all kinds of time and money on
development. Of course changing to DITA or Docbook will cost time and money,
too. Just less of both.
So which: DITA or Docbook
DITA is much more r
What sort of glyphs are being changed to squares? Arial Unicode is probably the
most glyph savvy general use font. You might applying that font to your result.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: T
To do them all at once, just say "Replace All". This will replace all
throughout a book with the right settings chosen. Also, if you don't have a
book, you can build a temporary one that includes all your files. You
probably one to test with will a one-by-one replace to make sure you are
getting wh
What sort of glyphs are being changed to squares? Arial Unicode is probably the
most glyph savvy general use font. You might applying that font to your result.
Craig
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent:
To do them all at once, just say "Replace All". This will replace all
throughout a book with the right settings chosen. Also, if you don't have a
book, you can build a temporary one that includes all your files. You
probably one to test with will a one-by-one replace to make sure you are
getting wh
nt - Numbering (and Page) set
properly. It was only when I would do Book Updates that the formatting and
page sequencing would be properly "forced".
Bill
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Wednesday, June
umbering (and Page) set
properly. It was only when I would do Book Updates that the formatting and
page sequencing would be properly "forced".
Bill
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Wednesday, June
It may be as simple as going into the Paragraph tab in the numbering for that
section and changing that to "Continue numbering from Previous file" (don't
recall the selection exactly).
The numbering is a delicate interaction between a number of settings. Usually
putting your content into the
It may be as simple as going into the Paragraph tab in the numbering for that
section and changing that to "Continue numbering from Previous file" (don't
recall the selection exactly).
The numbering is a delicate interaction between a number of settings. Usually
putting your content into the
Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't this just as simple as changing
the paragraph setting of your second and subsequent lines to start at the
point of the end of the leader dot's of the first line?
Also, while this may not work in this case, I often control line breaks in
the generated
Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't this just as simple as changing
the paragraph setting of your second and subsequent lines to start at the
point of the end of the leader dot's of the first line?
Also, while this may not work in this case, I often control line breaks in
the generated f
This ended up in my Junk folder for some reason so I thought I would repost
it since Maxwell has had posts that folks don't see (perhaps for the same
reason).
Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Max
This ended up in my Junk folder for some reason so I thought I would repost
it since Maxwell has had posts that folks don't see (perhaps for the same
reason).
Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
I seem to vaguely remember that this setting is only valid for CMYK documents.
I could be wrong though. Check that out.
Craig
> From: pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
> To: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
> Subject: Color setting Don't Print doesn't work (WAS: Modifying FM's default
> R/L master p
I seem to vaguely remember that this setting is only valid for CMYK documents.
I could be wrong though. Check that out.
Craig
> From: PChristenson at ftportfolios.com
> To: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com
> Subject: Color setting Don't Print doesn't work (WAS: Modifying FM's default
> R/L ma
It may have been something "fixed" in the OS and not in the FM application.
Craig
> From: isaund...@enghouse.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:28:49 +
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Do Adobe actually test their GUIs wi
It may have been something "fixed" in the OS and not in the FM application.
Craig
> From: ISaunders at enghouse.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:28:49 +
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Do Adobe actually test their G
To: craig...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Craig Ede wrote:
> There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required
> by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus,
> etc. T
There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by
clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This
makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to
PDF.
Craig
-Original Message-
I strongly suggest that you re
To: craigede at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Craig Ede wrote:
> There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required
> by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus,
> etc. T
There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by
clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This
makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to
PDF.
Craig
-Original Message-
I strongly suggest that you re
The crash on SaveAs mif is a bad sign. Yes, you should be able to saveAs MIF
and that should clean the file of information like this that is a holdover
from the previous state(s) of the book. The crash is indicative of some sort
of corruption.
The book file will store font information used in the
The crash on SaveAs mif is a bad sign. Yes, you should be able to saveAs MIF
and that should clean the file of information like this that is a holdover
from the previous state(s) of the book. The crash is indicative of some sort
of corruption.
The book file will store font information used in the
x27;t the limited ones have buttons that expand them into the more
capable ones?
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
> I expect the problem is that you expected this to be the same command
> when in fact pods for objects do one thing and direct access to
> def
hy don't the limited ones have buttons that expand them into the more
capable ones?
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
> I expect the problem is that you expected this to be the same command
> when in fact pods for objects do one thing and direct access to
> def
tional text is still
> around somewhere? I found that much more efficient.
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Craig Ede wrote:
> > This is definitely in FM10. The difference is that this view is brought up
> > by choosing View > Pods > Cross Reference or View > P
conditional text is still
> around somewhere? I found that much more efficient.
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Craig Ede wrote:
> > This is definitely in FM10. The difference is that this view is brought up
> > by choosing View > Pods > Cross Reference or View >
Robert,
This is definitely in FM10. The difference is that this view is brought up
by choosing View > Pods > Cross Reference or View > Pods > Markers (etc.).
The old way is through Special > Cross Reference or Special > Marker (etc.),
which gives you something completely different. This pod appe
The graphics came through. There must be email and listserv improvements being
made as well!
Craig
From: adu...@vectorworks.net
To: robert at lauriston.com
Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 17:56:51 +
CC: framers at lists.frameusers
Adobe provides a software license transfer form. Not applicable to academic
versions, however.
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.h
tml
Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
The subscription model probably does help them deal with piracy. In that
sense, they are urging a part of their user (but not customer) base to be
more obedient.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson
Sent: S
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:08 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
Craig Ede wrote:
> Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does
> mean that you have access to a given software pack
This is for FM10, but FM11 works the same way, I think. (I don't have FM11
on this machine, but I have downloaded that PDF.)
>From the FrameMaker menu choose Help > Help Topics. After the Help opens in
your browser, click on View Help PDF (over on the right at the top). This
will download the curr
Adobe provides a software license transfer form. Not applicable to academic
versions, however.
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.h
tml
Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.co
The subscription model probably does help them deal with piracy. In that
sense, they are urging a part of their user (but not customer) base to be
more obedient.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson
Sent:
Jong
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:08 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
Craig Ede wrote:
> Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does
> mean that you have access to a given software
This is for FM10, but FM11 works the same way, I think. (I don't have FM11
on this machine, but I have downloaded that PDF.)
>From the FrameMaker menu choose Help > Help Topics. After the Help opens in
your browser, click on View Help PDF (over on the right at the top). This
will download the curr
Actually, the right subscription model might appeal to many companies. It
can be cost effective for the company (a known monthly, smallish outflow of
cash), but is certainly harder on the user/contractor since they will be
more acutely aware of the fact that they are having to constantly
incorporat
Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does mean
that you have access to a given software package you can count on (and not
some changing version of it). Also, given that license, they cannot revoke
your ability of use the software in that state, and they have certain
obli
I just did the same search (i.e. "change bars") and it worked fine. Maybe
they fixed it.
I see my previous post missed that you are searching not just the FM10 help
but the broader range of the Adobe Community, etc.
Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mai
As a fallback option to online help, it's probably a good idea to download
the help file as a PDF (it makes a great user manual, btw). Since the PDF
has the revision date in the footer you can update your version if a new
revision is released. Such a search should be easy in the PDF.
Craig
ually being improved and the
former version made unavailable.
Craig Ede
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Co
Actually, the right subscription model might appeal to many companies. It
can be cost effective for the company (a known monthly, smallish outflow of
cash), but is certainly harder on the user/contractor since they will be
more acutely aware of the fact that they are having to constantly
incorporat
Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does mean
that you have access to a given software package you can count on (and not
some changing version of it). Also, given that license, they cannot revoke
your ability of use the software in that state, and they have certain
obli
I just did the same search (i.e. "change bars") and it worked fine. Maybe
they fixed it.
I see my previous post missed that you are searching not just the FM10 help
but the broader range of the Adobe Community, etc.
Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mai
As a fallback option to online help, it's probably a good idea to download
the help file as a PDF (it makes a great user manual, btw). Since the PDF
has the revision date in the footer you can update your version if a new
revision is released. Such a search should be easy in the PDF.
Craig
ually being improved and the
former version made unavailable.
Craig Ede
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sub
It's probably because Illustrator is, on startup, activating its own set of
fonts (having tucked them away somewhere), and deactivates them upon quitting.
I finally solved my problems in FrameMaker with error messages about Helvetica,
Times and ZapfDingbats by finding those fonts in an old c
It's probably because Illustrator is, on startup, activating its own set of
fonts (having tucked them away somewhere), and deactivates them upon quitting.
I finally solved my problems in FrameMaker with error messages about Helvetica,
Times and ZapfDingbats by finding those fonts in an old co
I was going to ask Robert if he was pasting into a structured doc or not as I
have found this technique useful (but not perfect) for use in DITA docs.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Saturday, M
I was going to ask Robert if he was pasting into a structured doc or not as I
have found this technique useful (but not perfect) for use in DITA docs.
Craig
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Saturday,
The thing to do is to start with a template that contains all these things so
that when you create each file in the book, all these things exist in the place
your want them.
With already created content (say, files created in a old template that lacks
these things), you would create a new templ
The thing to do is to start with a template that contains all these things so
that when you create each file in the book, all these things exist in the place
your want them.
With already created content (say, files created in a old template that lacks
these things), you would create a new templ
If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually importing
the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).
Corr
If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually importing
the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).
Corr
You are talking about the Fonts Pod (brought up with View>Pods>Fonts). As
far as I know you can only see fonts defined for some use in the document
there. You can use the Replace button in the Fonts Pod to perform
substitutions to get rid of the fonts you don't want.
It is possible, I think, that
I'm interested in controlling cell shading in structured xml documents. The
following entry in the DEVELOPING STRUCTURED APPLICATIONS WITH
ADOBER FRAMEMAKERR 9 gives me pause:
Tables
FrameMaker table formats are only partially integrated with the structure
model. The content of
a FrameMaker
Not such file is in my similarly named ...\Adobe FrameMaker10\Documents
folder. The only thing there is a folder called \SGMLErrs
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday,
You are talking about the Fonts Pod (brought up with View>Pods>Fonts). As
far as I know you can only see fonts defined for some use in the document
there. You can use the Replace button in the Fonts Pod to perform
substitutions to get rid of the fonts you don't want.
It is possible, I think, that
I'm interested in controlling cell shading in structured xml documents. The
following entry in the DEVELOPING STRUCTURED APPLICATIONS WITH
ADOBER FRAMEMAKERR 9 gives me pause:
Tables
FrameMaker table formats are only partially integrated with the structure
model. The content of
a FrameMaker t
Not such file is in my similarly named ...\Adobe FrameMaker10\Documents
folder. The only thing there is a folder called \SGMLErrs
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
Sent: Fri
The last gasp method is to saveAs Mif and search for whatever font name is
popping up in the console window. This should give you a good idea of where
it is hidden.
Sometimes it is easier to just turn off "Remember Missing Font Names" and
have it remap the font to something you have. (Turn it bac
The last gasp method is to saveAs Mif and search for whatever font name is
popping up in the console window. This should give you a good idea of where
it is hidden.
Sometimes it is easier to just turn off "Remember Missing Font Names" and
have it remap the font to something you have. (Turn it bac
You can select multiple graphic objects within an anchored frame, but you
cannot select multiple anchored frames. You can also select multiple graphic
objects that happen to be just floating around on a page, although the only
place you might want to have such graphics is on a master page.
It s
You can select multiple graphic objects within an anchored frame, but you
cannot select multiple anchored frames. You can also select multiple graphic
objects that happen to be just floating around on a page, although the only
place you might want to have such graphics is on a master page.
It so
I'm coming from a medical device background, where revisions of documents are
quite different than modifications (hundreds, perhaps, between revisions, even
if the revision releases are only one month apart). It nice to know when a
document was released and not just when it was last touched.
Establish an instance of your book number variable somewhere in each
particular file and create a second cross-reference to that. It can be
hidden somewhere by making it white on the white page if you don't want to
see it.
When you insert your xref(s) it would be in two parts.
"See , starting on p
I'm coming from a medical device background, where revisions of documents are
quite different than modifications (hundreds, perhaps, between revisions, even
if the revision releases are only one month apart). It nice to know when a
document was released and not just when it was last touched.
Establish an instance of your book number variable somewhere in each
particular file and create a second cross-reference to that. It can be
hidden somewhere by making it white on the white page if you don't want to
see it.
When you insert your xref(s) it would be in two parts.
"See , starting on p
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<http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan> <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
mattrsullivan.com <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede wrote:
I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just
<http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan> facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan> <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
mattrsullivan.com <http://mattrsullivan.com/>
On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Craig Ede wrote:
I'd do it via a variable placed on the master p
I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables
from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used
variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.fra
I'd do it via a variable placed on the master page. Just import variables
from a clean template (i.e. one that won't redefine other possibly used
variables) across the range of files that need to be updated.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.fram
om: srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk
> Subject: RE: Wrong font in index page numbers
>
> At 13:31 -0600 4/3/13, Craig Ede wrote:
>
> >Oh, FM3! Those were the days, weren't they?
>
> Maybe... at least you could go get a cup of coffee while your bo
The kind of UI thing that bugs me is this: You have two documents tiled on the
screen. You are in the left side document with your cursor in a paragraph that
you want to retag. You slide your mouse over to the docked paragraph catalog
(which is open on the right side of the screen) and click on
I agree with jowens. Also, be sure to apply the latest update after
installation as there was an initial problem with printing to PDF.
I work with both 10 and 11 and really appreciate the improvements in FM11. It's
certainly not perfect, but it is better.
Craig
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:16:23 -
> From: srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk
> Subject: RE: Wrong font in index page numbers
>
> At 13:31 -0600 4/3/13, Craig Ede wrote:
>
> >Oh, FM3! Those were the days, weren't they?
>
> Maybe... at least you could go get a cup of coffee while your bo
The kind of UI thing that bugs me is this: You have two documents tiled on the
screen. You are in the left side document with your cursor in a paragraph that
you want to retag. You slide your mouse over to the docked paragraph catalog
(which is open on the right side of the screen) and click on
I agree with jowens. Also, be sure to apply the latest update after
installation as there was an initial problem with printing to PDF.
I work with both 10 and 11 and really appreciate the improvements in FM11. It's
certainly not perfect, but it is better.
Craig
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:16:23 -
I sent Steve something offlist, but I pretty sure you can correct that with the
< before the page numbers on the reference pages (not at a
FM machine right now). I'm sure we did something like this back in Frame 3. I
know we never did the kind of search and replace you seem to be describing.
O
I sent Steve something offlist, but I pretty sure you can correct that with the
< before the page numbers on the reference pages (not at a
FM machine right now). I'm sure we did something like this back in Frame 3. I
know we never did the kind of search and replace you seem to be describing.
O
It is possible that one of your users has added changebars manually (as an
override). In that case you will have to remove them by applying the default
font for the paragraph to the text in question.
BTW: I have seen this happen when users are not aware of the automatic nature
of change bars a
It is possible that one of your users has added changebars manually (as an
override). In that case you will have to remove them by applying the default
font for the paragraph to the text in question.
BTW: I have seen this happen when users are not aware of the automatic nature
of change bars a
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