Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Dan
At 8:50 PM -0700 10/24/2010, Joshua Juran wrote: The Core 2 Duo was a real performance boost comparted to the PowerPC G4 which was stuck at 1.5 GHz. I know, witch third party CPU upgrades 2 GHz is possible without overclocking - altough I'm not sure if they aren't overclocked by default? My

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: The only computer from Radio Shack that I remember was the Tandy Apple Clone ... Never knew they made others too??? A whole string...Tandy/Radio Shack were pretty big early players in the Personal Computer market. The very first

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution

G3 DEAD

2010-10-25 Thread MichaelP
Ive been using a Imac ruby very efficiently as a backup firewire connected to a G4 via statrtup command T Except that today power failure left the G3 completely unstartable - no green light no chime - zilch. Stage 1 Yes the battery was low-low so I replaced it -- ZERO effect Stage 2 -

Re: G3 DEAD

2010-10-25 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/25 00:45, MichaelP so eloquently wrote: Ive been using a Imac ruby very efficiently as a backup firewire connected to a G4 via statrtup command T Please do not hijack a thread by changing the subject line in a reply to an existing topic, instead create a new message with a new

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

2010-10-25 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I remember the Radio Shack TRS-80, otherwise known as trash-80. Played on it at store but never bought, I used a Commodore 64 at that time. On Oct 25, 1:52 am, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:    The only computer from Radio Shack that I remember was the Tandy Apple Clone ...

G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Nestamicky
This machine is the 2 Ghz DP version, 2005. It will chime and boot to the internal HD. I lost the password so can't login. I then try with the install DVD to reset the password. It will not take any keyboard input combination to reset NVRAM, boot off DVD---nothing. The keyboard works

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Kris Tilford
What keyboard input are you using to attempt to boot the DVD, the C or the Option or both? Have you tried the USB ports on the front the back for the keyboard? If you've removed the HD, and have the DVD in the optical drive, then it should default to the DVD to boot. Once the DVD boots,

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: AIX was in use on Macs way before the PPC days. I remember a developer using it in 1990... AIX is IBM's proprietary frankenunix, you're thinking of A/UX, which was Apple's port of

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G5 not taking keyboard input Date:Montag 25 Oktober 2010N From:Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com You are correct, something is very amiss if it won't accept keyboard commands such as Cmd-Opt-O-F to

Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell

2010-10-25 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Hey John, Can it be done on a Clamshell??? All I have for a G3 to try it on is a Wally 300 or a Wally G4 500 I'll give it a shot next week. A Clamshell ain't no fun to put a HDD in just to test. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Nestamicky wrote: This machine is the 2 Ghz DP version, 2005. It will chime and boot to the internal HD. I lost the password so can't login. I then try with the install DVD to reset the password. It will not take any keyboard input combination to reset

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread dc
On Oct 25, 9:14 am, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's the real problem herenot responding to keyboard input during boot. At the risk of stating the obvious, the keyboard needs to be a wired USB keyboard in order for startup shortcut commands to work. Are you using a

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread John Martz
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: I never say never, but I've been watching this industry for nearly 30 years, and suspect that until and unless SSD cost drops to a lower X of HD, both will be there side by side depending on the platform it goes in.

Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Dan
At 1:12 PM -0400 10/25/2010, John Martz wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I never say never, but I've been watching this industry for nearly 30 years, and suspect that until and unless SSD cost drops to a lower X of HD, both will be there side by side depending on

G5 power supply problems

2010-10-25 Thread schaffpa
I have a late G5 2.3 dual-core Power Mac that has run 24/7 since I bought it new in December 2005. The only enhancement it received was a 2nd 250 GB HDD and 4 GB of RAM. A month or 2 ago it died instantly (there was a gunshot like pop, the screen went black and the power light was out 2 seconds

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: The ONLY reason our college has Mac support at ALL is me, and it's pure happenstance that I work where I work, because I had some experience programming, a teensy bit of database experience and a willingness to dive into terra

Latest G4 Shutdown

2010-10-25 Thread Stephen Conrad
It shut off last night and here is the error report OK, I see the USB thing but HOW (ie where do I look) do I determine WHICH USB device is doing this? com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI(2.5.5)@0x49b000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.8.1)@0x467000 And what is this: dependency:

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread daniel . stewart743
I know they do but I still do not see how console systems relate to a PPC based mobile chip that went nowhere ultimately. It was not a vanilla Cell chip but was based on the same tech. If I remember correctly it was axed since nobody was looking to get into PPC based mobile devices to make it

G4 monitor power?

2010-10-25 Thread MarkyB
I sold my G4 MDD (epic sad face here) and I am about to set up my old G4 BW. I've never had a use for the monitor power share on the PSU, but are there cords to which I can use that with a standard lcd screen? What I am talking about is the PSU has a male connector for its power cord, and a

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Daniel Stewart
As an interesting aside I there was also a PPC native version of Windows NT 4.0 I guess MS was not content to just subject PC users to NT. On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: AIX was in use

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

2010-10-25 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:09 AM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.comwrote: I remember the Radio Shack TRS-80, otherwise known as trash-80. Played on it at store but never bought, I used a Commodore 64 at that time. Lets see, in my life I have used Education settings 1) Apple ][e at my

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 25, 2:13 am, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:  That department has hundreds of Macs of all ages form the early Aught's to present. This department was put into a refurbed historic building and is state of the art for 3 years ago when it was completed. It replaces

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Andrew Liu Anderson
Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/24 00:35, Brian Christmas so eloquently wrote: The end of this race is a long way away yet. The finish line is constantly being moved, there is no end. Tina Actually, it's more like the carrot in front of the horse's nose. As long as the horse is willing to

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Andrew Liu Anderson
Joshua Juran wrote: . multiple cores have gone mainstream as an alternative to increasing clock speed. Whereas a small increase in performance costs you a large increase in power consumption and heat generation, a reduction in performance (maybe 10 or 20%) cuts the heat and power in

Re: G5 power supply problems

2010-10-25 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:55 PM, schaf...@comcast.net wrote: I have a late G5 2.3 dual-core Power Mac that has run 24/7 since I bought it new in December 2005. The only enhancement it received was a 2nd 250 GB HDD and 4 GB of RAM. A month or 2 ago it died instantly (there was a gunshot

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time that our world, Apple fans included, do a little slw-dn, back-up re-evaluate our values. Not at all. I'm very happy with my PPC Macs (except for

G4 hd problem

2010-10-25 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
Hi. I lost my beloved quicksilver g4 to a ruthless ex wife in a divorce. After years, I was able to scrounge up $100 for a new quicksilver g4 (the original ipaid like 2700). It arrived in good shape but had two 128 gb hard drives arranged in a raid 0 array. There is only 15gb or so used

Re: G3 DEAD

2010-10-25 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:45 PM, MichaelP wrote: Ive been using a Imac ruby very efficiently as a backup firewire connected to a G4 via statrtup command T Except that today power failure left the G3 completely unstartable - no green light no chime - zilch. Stage 1 Yes the battery

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

2010-10-25 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: The only computer from Radio Shack that I remember was the Tandy Apple Clone ... Never knew they made others too??? A whole string...Tandy/Radio Shack were pretty big early

Re: Latest G4 Shutdown

2010-10-25 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 24, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: It doesn't happen every day so I am wondering how to narrow this down. com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI(2.5.5)@0x49b000 OHCI means it's a USB 1.0 or 1.1 device, not a USB 2.0. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group,

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

2010-10-25 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 25, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:09 AM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: I remember the Radio Shack TRS-80, otherwise known as trash-80. Played on it at store but never bought, I used a Commodore 64 at that time. Lets see, in my life I

Re: Latest G4 Shutdown

2010-10-25 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: It doesn't happen every day so I am wondering how to narrow this down. com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI(2.5.5)@0x49b000 OHCI means it's a USB 1.0 or 1.1 device, not a

Re: Interesting Vintage Website

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Clark Martin wrote: The TRS-80 was an over sized keyboard which connected a video monitor and cassette deck, in either case, either generic or their own model. RS later did sell an upgraded model that was an all-in- one design with two 5.25 floppies. on it.

Re: Latest G4 Shutdown

2010-10-25 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: 1.0 1.1 differ how? USB 1.0: Released in January 1996. Specified data rates of 1.5 Mbit/s (Low-Bandwidth) and 12 Mbit/s (Full- Bandwidth). Does not allow for extension cables or pass-through monitors (due to timing and power limitations).

Re: G4 monitor power?

2010-10-25 Thread Doug McNutt
At 14:48 -0700 10/24/10, MarkyB wrote: I sold my G4 MDD (epic sad face here) and I am about to set up my old G4 BW. I've never had a use for the monitor power share on the PSU, but are there cords to which I can use that with a standard lcd screen? What I am talking about is the PSU has a male

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time that our world, Apple fans included, do a little slw-dn, back-up re-evaluate

Re: Latest G4 Shutdown

2010-10-25 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: 1.0 1.1 differ how? USB 1.0: Released in January 1996. Specified data rates of 1.5 Mbit/s (Low-Bandwidth) and 12 Mbit/s (Full-Bandwidth). Does not allow for

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Amanda Ward
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time that our world, Apple fans included,

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Doug McNutt
At 14:19 -0700 10/25/10, Andrew Liu Anderson wrote: Also, at 3GHz, you cross-over into the SHF range of micro-wave on radio spectrum. As frequency increases, Skin Effect of AC current becomes more dramatic, to where it becomes impossible to use ordinary conductors to carry your clock

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Jeff Bequette
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: 10.9… iCougar? We have lots of cats left on the list: Asian Golden Cat Fishing Cat Wildcat (many varieties) Sand Cat Geoffroy's Cat Serval Caracal Cheetah Margay Iriomote Cat Jaguar Leopard (used) Black Panther (Panther has been used) Puma

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
Well cats names are a proper considering the imperiousness Of apple philosophy. How about Simon's Cat Check out kitty behavior on youtube. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: As an interesting aside I there was also a PPC native version of Windows NT 4.0 I guess MS was not content to just subject PC users to NT. That one was designed to run on CHRP (?) hardware, not Mac hardware; they never advanced much

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks.

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Clark Martin
On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: It's the last question that makes me do this. I had an IBM 024 punch in my office that nobody else wanted because it didn't print the letters on the top edge. The 026's did. It's really fun to check a FORTRAN deck for typos when all you

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 8:22 pm + 10/25/10, Charles Davis wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Tina K. mailto:penguir...@gmail.compenguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread admin
With Lion king of the jungle, maybe, it's on to OS XI and another animal after this! OS X has steadily matured but I sure don't consider that 7 or 8 systems have been presented. Tiger seems to be the maturing high point of a steady series of incremental improvements and tinkering. --

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Nestamicky
On 25/10/10 7:26 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: What keyboard input are you using to attempt to boot the DVD, the C or the Option or both? Have you tried the USB ports on the front the back for the keyboard? If you've removed the HD, and have the DVD in the optical drive, then it should default to the

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Nestamicky
On 25/10/10 7:25 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Did you try all the USB ports? When you had it apart did you hold the CUDA switch down for 15 secs? If that doesn't help reseat the processors, then try to boot with an ASD DVD. I tried the back ports and the front port. I did press the reset switch

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Nestamicky
On 25/10/10 10:57 AM, dc wrote: At the risk of stating the obvious, the keyboard needs to be a wired USB keyboard in order for startup shortcut commands to work. Are you using a wireless keyboard? It's wired and I've tried a few different ones. -- You received this message because you are a

Re: G5 not taking keyboard input

2010-10-25 Thread Nestamicky
On 25/10/10 9:22 PM, Ross wrote: Have you tried booting with the [Shift] key held down to boot into safe mode and clear the caches? If not try that, and then restart when you get to the login screen. If it still does not work, disconnect all external peripheral cables and the AC power cord.

Re: Apple inside?

2010-10-25 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: We have lots of cats left on the list: [snip] Cheetah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.0 Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a

Re: G5 power supply problems

2010-10-25 Thread schaffpa
Thanks for the response John! And for the tip on a reputable repair outfit. - Peter - Original Message - From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 2:50:24 PM Subject: Re: G5 power supply problems On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:55