Please read the Congressional Research Service report at this link to check the
accuracy of the characterizations about and claims in this Times of India news
item:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33529.pdf
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, U. G. Barad wrote:
>
> It's quite surprising to
Here are the inaccurate statements in the Times of India (TOI) news item at
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-14/india/30153707_1_prime-ministerial-candidate-narendra-modi-rahul-gandhi
:
QUOTE
As the debate on potential prime ministerial contenders for the 2014 elections
picks
--- On Sun, 9/18/11, SOTER wrote:
>
> I definitely do not have any bias towards Dr. Helekar bec'
> he is a Hindu.---
>
> I refute his claims in the spirit of discussion and that is
> it while respecting his right to hold a view.
>
I certainly do not perceive a bias against me
It is very hard to keep track of, and refute, all the pseudoscientific nonsense
that is posted on Goanet. We would need a full-time scientifically
well-educated and knowledgeable reviewer to do that. For me, every now and then
crap like that in the following post becomes unbearable because it en
George has pointed out one of the most important concerns about posting bogus
medical advice and information dispensed on unreliable blogs and websites. The
newly released movie, "Contagion" takes this a step further. The Jude Law
character in it spreads world-wide panic and compounds the misery
I would like to point out inaccuracies in the post appended below. A person
qualified in modern medicine should be easily able to figure out a genuine
medical website from a bogus one. Nearly all properly trained physicians and
medical scientists do. They regard spreading bogus medical informati
There seems to be a lack of clarity about the meaning of basic concepts such as
conspiracy, ethics and evidence in the post appended below. Hopefully, almost
everybody in this forum knows the following:
1. That a global conspiracy or mafia involves a large group or organization of
people throug
I wish Fr. Ivo a speedy recovery, and all the very best.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:55 AM
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These issues have been discussed many times on Goanet. I have already stated
what is meant by a reliable medical source in my last post in this thread. To
reiterate, a reliable medical source is exemplified by the "public health
resource website of a recognized medical institution or organizatio
Ferdinando Falcao wrote:
>
>Do I need to elaborate more about conspiracies and ethics? About unholy
>nexus of Drug Companies and Research scientists and Politicians?
>
Yes. I think Falcao needs to elaborate more about the conspiracies and ethics
in the two opinions he has posted below. I tried t
Ferdinando,
I am not the only one on Goanet that does not believe in global nexuses and
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non-profit organizations, thousands of research scientists, hundreds of
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Jason Keith is right on the money below. I for one have never understood what
is secular about this "secular" forum, and all other so-called secular forums
that are engaging in religious propaganda and militating to enforce all kinds
of bans for the "glory" of their religion? From my standpoint
Admin Noronha is right. Konknni is an Indo-Aryan language. It is also an
Indo-European and Indo-Iranian language because these are the supersets (i.e.
family and group, respectively) from which all Indo-Aryan languages have
descended. In fact, in the study of human cultural evolution Aryans is a
Goa most likely had Austro-Asiatic and Dravidian settlers before the
Indo-Aryans arrived. So extinct languages of these earlier settlers such as
Mundari (Austro-Asiatic) and Naiki (Dravidian) might have been spoken in Goa.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Fri, 5/6/11, Frederick Noronha wrote:
>
> So w
It is good to see that Gilbert has finally learned to copy and paste links from
genuine medical websites such as that of Harvard Medical School, rather than
from his usual websites such as Huffington Post that promote quackery.
Regarding cinnamon and other untested alternative and quack nostrums
Did Gilbert and Fr. Ivo go to the same medical school to obtain their
scientific and medical literacy? Did Gilbert also find people with cancer due
to the use of microwave in Germany? If so, Harvard Medical School physicians
must not be as literate as either of them because the Harvard website d
Jose, who is a genuinely qualified physician, and who has legitimately and
legally practiced real medicine for decades, has already responded
appropriately to the nonsense written in the post appended below, and warned
Goanetters of the dangers of clicking on the bogus link provided in it.
So
It is well known in the medical literature that in a tiny fraction of patients
cancer disappears spontaneously without any effective treatment. This
phenomenon is called spontaneous regression. The case described below appears
to be an instance of this phenomenon.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu,
This story is an old hoax. No such discovery has been reported in the genuine
scientific literature. No scientist named Sam Chang is a principal investigator
or prominent researcher on the Human Genome Project.
Once again, I would ask Goanetters not to rely on news or stories about
scientific i
Dear Tonybab de Sa,
Jules Verne wrote fiction. He did not claim that his writings were supposed to
established scientific facts that were discovered by someone like Prof. Sam
Chang of the Human Genome Project. So no. Nobody would have had any reason to
challenge his writings in his time or now.
Roland,
Good to see that you have had this epiphany, leaving aside the fact that it
took an article in the Economist for that to happen. I guess the pinch of money
is much more painful and effective in driving most people away from stupidity
than that of reason and evidence. Yes, 60 billion dol
--- On Sat, 5/14/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
wrote:
>
>there definitely is no record of any malignant tumour being cured.
>
The above statement is factually wrong. I have already provided a list from WHO
and other reputed medical institutions of some of the common malignant tumors
that
I can attest that Shri Fernandes simply demonstrated the widely known fact that
an email hacker who wants to disguise his IP address can do so easily. But
almost all other folk who contribute to Goanet or send private emails can be
easily traced. For example, the post appended below is sent from
I want to state that what Shri Fernandes claims below is false. He does not
know me, and is absolutely ignorant about what I know. He also is wrong to
claim that you can fake pretty much anything you want on the internet.
Cheers,
Santosh
P. S. The post appended below has an IP address localiz
--- On Mon, 5/30/11, Carvalho wrote:
>
> The day is not too far away when our very names will be
> questioned and taken as a sign of denationalisation.
>
This scare, like all previous ones of this nature, is never going to
materialize. The real world is different from what it is portrayed to b
Dear Selma,
First, I submit that you are making the following practical mistakes:
1. Believing that writings by individuals in the Goan media reflect reality and
majority opinion, and in turn influence public opinion in any significant way.
2. Believing that the issue of medium of instruction i
This is another example of misreporting of facts by a newspaper. This is not a
result of a major study. A bureaucratic advisory panel of scientists at WHO has
decided to classify excessive cell phone use under Category 2B as "possibly
carcinogenic", along with pickled vegetables and coffee. They
tes or
> centrists like Santosh Helekar would have gone a long way in
> assuring that there is some hope that this country will not
> fall into religious fascism. Those noises are
> mysteriously almost missing for whatever reason. When
> Velingkar, Bhembre and Karmali type elements attach
>
Dear Josebab,
I cannot tell you what to think. But even if Samir favors Marathi over
English, which I don't believe to be true, I would not automatically
conclude that his position is a communal one. It could simply be
because he favors the promotion of indigenous Indian languages, with
the unders
It looks like Soterbab has now adopted the predictable path of throwing mud at
people with whom he disagrees, associating them rhetorically with his worst
political opponents and their atrocities, equating Samir and his family with
Narendra Modi, etc. These are clear signs, as always, of a perso
Soterbab,
It appears that you are trying to blame me for your gratuitous insinuation of
the Hindu extremist Modi and the communal Gujarat carnage, in the midst of a
reference to Samir and the Kelekar family in your prior post. There is no
better indication than this of the problem that you adm
Hi Selma,
I read Beatrice's post. Her concerns about the madness of mobs calling for
bundhs are valid. I will do what you say on the weekend.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Fri, 6/3/11, Carvalho wrote:
>
> I hope Santosh has read Beatrice's
> letter. I again urge Santosh to write into
> local media
What I find amusing is that Fernandes believes that he is pulling a fast one on
us by doing something that a teenager in Goa can do much better. The lack of
insight on his part about the simple obvious fact that nobody in Goa or
anywhere else today would be impressed by his petty exploits, or ho
posts of Goans like
> Mr. Santosh Helekar implying, to use their words, 'that the
> concerns about religious discrimination and persecution of
> minoirties are primarily those of loud mouther rarefied
> political fringe, over-represented on Goanet and in the Goan
> media are
In a free democracy people have the right to voice their views on any political
issue. They have a right to assemble in public and peacefully protest against
policies and laws that they find objectionable. They can petition their
government to repeal those public actions, and persuade others to
The list of curable cancers that I had posted here was provided by one of the
world's most reputed cancer hospitals. That list is a statement of objective
fact that is accepted by all oncologists and cancer researchers who are
familiar with today's standard of care in scientific medicine and the
Konkani shikleat tankam.
Goeantlea palkancho ek pongodd mullavea English shikshonnapasot Sorkaralagim
onudan magta.
Ek porki bhas mannkuleancha talleant chondpa sarki dusri onorthachi gozal na.
English bhashechem mhotv konn nhoikarina ani amchea bhurgeank En
The web article provided below, like many other articles from the same source,
contains bogus information. Please do not be misled by it.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Fri, 6/10/11, Con Menezes wrote:
>
> http://www.grist.org/scary-food/2011-02-14-just-how-bad-is-aspartame-the-leading-u.s.-fake-swee
We know that there are people who want to promote only the Devanagri
script for Konknni. We also know that there are people who want to
promote both Devanagri and Roman scripts. There are still others like
me who want Konknni to be written in all five scripts used by its
speakers, namely Devanagri,
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diet coke cans everyday throughout his life, with his mother doing the same
when she was pregnant with him in her womb. That amounts to drinking one can of
diet coke every 39 seconds 24 hours a day from the time one was a fetus till
one's death.
UNQUOTE
Santosh Helekar
In an
I have often felt that editing in Goan English dailies is atrocious. Properly
spelled words in submitted OpED manuscripts are misspelled in the final print,
and the English language is butchered mercilessly from time to time. Mind you,
this is not a case of Indian English or Goan English. I used
It appears that in the following various Indian communities such as Rajputs,
Lingayats, other Hindus and Muslims are being portrayed negatively. Ramani, a
Goan name is also dragged into the mix. Among the communities that are quite
predictably left out are non-Indians such as Russians.
Cheers,
ntosh
--- On Sat, 6/18/11, SOTER wrote:
>
> Comment:
> Was the Ramani then accused in the Jessica Lal murder in
> new Delhi a Goan by any chance?
> Can Santosh Helekar deny the conspiracy against the Goan
> people by migrants whom he decides to divide into caste and
> rel
Soterbab,
You have asked the first question for the first time in this thread. I have
already answered the second question. Here are the answers:
1. For me Ramani is as much a Goan name as D'Souza or Khan or Naik. The fact
that all Ramanis, D'Souzas, Khans and Naiks are not Goans is immaterial
Soterbab appears to be creating his own exclusive reality here, one that no
other person who objectively reads my posts in this thread would be able to
recognize. I merely pointed out that Ramani was a Goan name that was dragged
into the mix. I never used the word "exclusively". Here is that per
--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
wrote:
>
> COMMENTS : There cannot be dialect and styles of the English language. >There
> can be only corrupted or rather spurious versions by different >people or
> nations with inclusions of words from local languages.
>
There are nearl
I would like to add an important point to what Sandeep has nicely laid out
below. It is important to recognize that this debate, like all other political
debates, has been hijacked by activists and partisans who resort to
unproductive extremist rhetoric and hyperbole. Those who call others
dena
It is well known among linguists that the grammar of a language in its spoken
form varies with its dialect. Here is a general description of grammatical
variations in the dialects of English in the United Kingdom provided by the
British Library:
http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-onl
--- On Tue, 6/21/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
wrote:
>
> And Santosh has produced references from websites of
> Amazon.com in support of his contention;
> sites that he would shun as commercial sites when others
> refer.
>
At the risk of insulting the intelligence of more than 99% of peo
I have some questions on the very unclear material appended below:
1. Who are the minorities in Goa? What is the percentage of the Goan population
below which a group needs to fall to qualify as a minority?
2. Who are the "we" referred to below? Are they politicians, political
activists or memb
why, who the snakes
are and why, and who in Goa or Goanet has conspired against humanity, and/or
perpetrated the genocide against more than 3000 Muslims in Gujarat, alongside
Modi and Vajpayee.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Fri, 7/1/11, SOTER wrote:
>
> Santosh Helekar has suddenly
> devel
Boorish religious chauvinism, sectarianism and communalism, combined with
crackpot nascimentality, have always existed in Goa in equal measure among the
Hindus and the Catholics for as long as I can remember. These traits are
especially prominent among politicians and political activists, a good
Edward Glaeser, a famous Harvard economist wrote the following
scholarly paper called "The Political Economy of Hatred", several
years ago to explain why politicians and political activists hate
and/or promote hatred against people of other religions, cultures and
races:
http://www.economics.harva
Sane and rational Goanetters would have learned to ignore crackpot nascimental
nonsense by now. But let me point out that as far as both female infanticide
and female foeticide are concerned, China is worse than India. The immoral
policies of its communist government have caused the male to fema
In all fairness, Jose should have also asked Floriano for evidence to support
the following blood examination conducted by him:
QUOTE
Communalism was in the blood of Goan Hindus, for I have witnessed it in the
raw. I could write a whole book on the subject. The only factor that kept it
subdued
Mr. Nunes,
The male:female ratio I have given is for the population as a whole, as far as
I know, not at birth or at any particular age. The greater lopsidedness of the
male:female ratio in China indicates greater sex selection in abortions and
infanticides. This problem has afflicted many coun
I will let sober and rational people in this forum decide what kind of communal
seeds were sown by whom in which family, and also who is spreading
misinformation here. But if someone wants to read about communal policies of
the Portuguese government, and communalism among the Hindus and Catholic
have
learned that the situation was much worse in the past than it is today. For one
thing, today the power is shared equally by politicians of both communities
elected by the people of Goa.
UNQUOTE
.Santosh Helekar
Please note the phrase "from the history that I have read" above, wh
Mr. Nunes,
Thanks for the PLoS One paper, and for this good discussion. Please note that
the discrepancy in the sex ratio numbers is because of the difference in the
exact type of measurement, as I had implied earlier - sex ratio in the entire
population according to the 2001 census, which is w
04 Jul 2011 14:10:06 -0700 , Santosh Helekar wrote
> :
> << below by truncating
> what I said in response to Floriano (not Falcao), and what
> my responses in this
> thread were all about. Here is my correct quote from my
> prior post: QUOTE From
> my parents and grandpar
Did both parents agree in this and other cases?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, anil desai wrote:
>
> http://www.oheraldo.in/News/Local%20News/PARENTS-HAVE-SPOKEN/49553.html
>
> PARENTS HAVE SPOKEN
>
>
> *School:* Shantadurga High School (Bicholim)
> No. of students in primary: *550*
> P
, and communalism among the Hindus and Catholics during the 451 years
of Portuguese rule, and in the early sixties, then here are some references
that I have read on this subject:"
......Santosh Helekar
Please note the reference to both Hindus and Catholics above, and to
communalism in the
aughed away by
> some sections in cyberspace, even before attempts were made
> to read or
> understand it. Probably a case of hearing only what we want
> to hear. The
> flip side is those who would like to believe that Goa was
> an oasis of
> communal harmony till 1961. Both pers
It is unfortunate that restrictions are imposed by temples, churches and
mosques. But since they are parochial religious institutions they have the
right to follow their illiberal traditions. Under the Indian secular
constitution the public or the government cannot impose their will on them.
BT
If Eugene has not read Dr. Sardesai's presentation at the convention, how can
he conclude that it was superficial? What is the purpose of this premature
excretion based on a blurb in a press release?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Eugene Correia wrote:
>
> The reports from the Global G
The problem with Goans and many other Indians is that they have no respect for
their own country and countrymen - call them third rate, etc., and spit on them
at every turn. How do you expect them to care for their own culture and
environment?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Rajan P. Par
It looks like religious extremists of all three kinds, namely Hindu, Christian
and Muslim subscribe to the same world view and predisposition against each
other.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Gerald Fernandes wrote:
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 11:29 AM
> The Norwegian killer of in
It is interesting to see the highly predictable and gaudy display of political
opportunism from all sides subsequent to the Norwegian terrorist act. The
so-called Catholic "Secular" Forum and the "secularist" Soter have blamed
extremist Indian Hindus for the atrocious act of a Norwegian criminal
Here is the link to the article by Chris Hedges:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/fundamentalism_kills_20110726/
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Santosh Helekar wrote:
>
> It is interesting to see the highly
> predictable and gaudy display of political opportunism from
&g
The article below is one of the most useless piece of writing I have ever read.
It does not tell me anything about the specifics of what Dr. Damodar Sardesai
presented, and what was so egregious or untrue about what he said. All I
learned from it is that using the word "brahmanical" has a some n
tion for the facile skills of Santosh Helekar
> to with impunity misread and misinterpret the contents of
> any posting which does not fit into his world view. Alas,
> were there to be no more people added to this
> categorisation Santosh could even seek a "PATENT" for his
&
Jason Keith Fernandes, an aspiring member of the cloistered academic world
wrote a polemic not just ridiculing and condemning the perspectives of two
historians informed by their reading of recorded history of Portuguese
colonialism in Goa, but by psychoanalyzing their unstated intentions, and
I too have tried to speak out against this communal crap from the political
activists in Goa and India. They have nothing else to contribute, other than to
launch a communal or casteist attack without any rhyme or reason. The debate
between Gerry and Naguesh was such a welcome change from this c
It is never prudent to draw sweeping conclusions from anecdotes that you read
in the newspaper. Murder-suicide rate is also negligible to non-existent among
psychiatrists. If one wants to find an anecdotal news story wherein a Catholic
priest or any other kind of spiritual person committed suici
Dear Gerry,
It is quite normal to be dazzled by all the flashy self-help books and websites
that are published today to cater to a vast postmodern readership, making all
kinds of sensational claims about how this spiritual technique or that or this
religious/humanistic belief or that cures dise
--- On Mon, 8/8/11, Jason Keith Fernandes wrote:
>
> The agenda of the Indian State exists, whether we like it or not.
>
Which Goan Indian citizen does not like the agenda of the Indian state? It
looks like Jason Keith wanted only his agenda, whatever it is, and only his
revisionist perspecti
Frederick Noronha wrote:
>
>The debate on English in today's Goa is quite another thing. If I'm
being accurate here, it saw Selma faulting Goans back in Goa (probably
first generation learners) for speaking >poor quality English, with
others joining in (was it Santosh Heleka
2011/11/28 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك
نورونيا:
>
>Why have all the Goan experts in the Queen's English simply migrated to Texas
>and Drayton?
>
I noticed that, using the well-honed skills of distortion and incomprehension,
Admin Noronha has now left far behind the simple r
to abuse me
when I had not provoked him personally in any way.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: "J. Colaco < jc>"
Gabe Menezes stated: " Okay he (Santosh Helekar) did not write
anything of the kind; so I take back what I wrote."
Earlier, Gabe
Here are my answers to Admin Noronha's questions.
Admin Noronha wrote:
>
>* What makes English a "foreign language"? National boundaries? Its origins?
>How does this tie up with its current position in India, where it is used as
>an >associate national language?
>
The fact that the native langu
Admin Noronha,
I know that Admin is not your first name. But are you not a Goanet Admin? If
so, do you mind if I continue to call you Admin Noronha especially on Goanet?
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
May I sa
Gabe,
My questions are addressed to Admin Noronha. I would like to know whether he is
a Goanet Admin or not. Why are you abusing me? What have I done to you?
Cheers,
Santosh
From: Gabe Menezes
RESPONSE: The man has already told you, that it is not acceptabl
Thanks E. D'Sousa for this suggestion. Henceforth, I will call him Goanet
Administrator, if he does not mind.
Cheers,
Santosh
P.S. I noticed that Mr. Gabe Menezes has used a foul and abusive word to refer
to Jose Colaco and me in the following quote:
QUOTE
We could proceed to Abbreviations
Goanet Administrator* Noronha,
In what sense does this hate-filled Hindu extremist propaganda constitute
"Secularism, Goan Style"? Do you regard Hindu Janajagruti Samiti as a Goan
secular organization?
Cheers,
Santosh
P.S.
* - Please let me know if you are not a Goanet Administrator.
2011/12
Rock Furtado wrote:
>
>Studies now talk of "Oneness" or "Singularity" as possibilities of the future.
>The basic belief is that human consciousness is constant and the physical body
>is transient. What if >the body itself is permanent as consciousness? Are we
>in a position to retain a physical
I don't see any logic in the justification given below for characterizing
religious extremism as secularism, Goan style. Society would be better served
by doing just the opposite - calling religious bigots religious bigots and not
generalizing their activities to the rest of their community or t
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