y, June 09, 2005 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
Mick,
I'm guessing here, but since you have both hl1 & hl2 on the same IP, with
hl2 in the later positionit may be cancelling the previous line???
Just to rule that out, since Alfred said that hl1 wo
at IP and see
what happens. Again, I'm just guessing.
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The HL2 works fine no problems, player can get fast d
mai-hawaii.com/
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> We will look at adding an X-header to the request.
>
> - Alfred
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick
Sent: 9. juni 2005 16:11
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Thanks for the info Alfred, unfortunately I still can't seem to get this
workin
one remote HL2 server (the top one) and another local HL1 and HL2
server (the bottom two)
Any help appreciated,
Regards
Mick
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From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The HL1 engine uses:
hl1://
For the referer syntax.
- Alfred
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> Thanks
know what it is that goes in front of the
IP for HL1.Anyway thanks for your response. Anyone got any ideas
please?
Mick
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Hi this works great for my HL2 server, but I use the same webserver folder
for storing the fast download maps for my HL1 server too. Can anyone tell
me what I need to add to the .htacce
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From: "Subdude2k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a while now.
I'm using .htaccess files on my Apache web server to onl
Mikee wrote:
Subdude2k, your answer finally does work. I really appreciate your
posting
this, as the SetEnvIf Referrer that Simon said would not work in the
.htaccess file.
IMHO, every server admin should do this who is using a web based
downloadurl
that has bandwidth limits.
One last answer
nice, I stand corrected.
On 6/7/05, Alexander Kobbevik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Already" means that it was done before, but I guess he didn't know.
> That's why he came back after finding out and told us.
> He also wrote "Each request from Source clients to your web server
> _contains_ the fo
Order Deny,Allow
Allow from env=allow_download
Deny from all
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The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a
rds,
Ryan Lewis
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> The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a
> while now.
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> I'm using .htaccess files on my Apache web server to
> only
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The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a while now.
I'm using .htaccess files on my Apache web server to only allow access
to t
The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a while now.
I'm using .htaccess files on my Apache web server to only allow access
to the hosted maps and files from our own CS Server. Here's the
contents of my .htaccess file
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SetEnvIfNoCase Referer ^hl2://195\.20\.108\.36 allow_download
Or
It is Working. I think it has always done that Look at my Webpages 404
codes from March
http://ctrclan.net/images/stats.JPG
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n".
That's my guess atleast :)
PS! Can't someone who use this cvar go into the webserver and just see if
it's there in the logs?
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heh, yeah, and 5 minutes before that he said "We will look at adding
an X-header to the request." In other words, it wasn't done yet, so he
went and got it done. And came back very quickly to say it was done.
That doesn't mean we got the client that does that yet, now does it?
Nope. But I'm sure it
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of course not, you don't have a client yet that sends the referer.
On 6/7/05, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It still is not working even with that typo correc
of course not, you don't have a client yet that sends the referer.
On 6/7/05, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It still is not working even with that typo corrected
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several server
IP's to all work with this folder?
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From: "Brandon Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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It looks like he made a typo, try replacing S
It looks like he made a typo, try replacing SetEnfIf with SetEnvIf.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:47 AM
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I
valve still has to actually release the client with this referer
support in it, don't think they've done that yet. So until they do
it's kind of hard to react to something that isn't there yet.
On 6/7/05, Mikee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried Simon's guide and put this in an .htaccess file in
I tried Simon's guide and put this in an .htaccess file in the
/hlds_downloads/ folder on my website (that contains the /maps/ folder for
download), but it did not work when I joined the server, I still got the
same player missing map, disconnected me.
SetEnfIf Referer ^hl2://67\.18\.241\.7
*ahem*
On 6/6/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web
> server contains the following line:
> Referer: hl2://
>
> You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this
> information.
>
> - Alfred
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And how do you use it?
On 6/7/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> valve already added referer support...
>
> On 6/7/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The best way to make sure other servers do not steal
valve already added referer support...
On 6/7/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The best way to make sure other servers do not steal your bandwidth with
> sv_downloadurl is to only allow people to download files that recently
> connected to the server. (Say, with 20 minut
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Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
Richard Nelson wrote:
> Hiding the cvar is not useful. If someone really wants to steal your
> bandwidth, they can use some external tool
m0gely wrote:
>> Hiding the cvar is not useful
> No, but it will stop *a lot* of other people.
My opinion is that it will stop very few people (jerks) who are actually
doing this.
>> I would say people with only FTP access should
>> be allowed to use .htaccess
>
>
> The last several posts tried
Richard Nelson wrote:
Hiding the cvar is not useful. If someone really wants to steal your
bandwidth, they can use some external tool to see where the requests
are going, so while it may stop the average player it won't stop
anyone who actually wants to do this.
No, but it will stop *a lot* of
On 7/06/2005 2:21 p.m., m0gely wrote:
While I applaud this response and it finally being done, I would suggest
making the cvar protected as well. Many people probably use a web host
that they have only FTP access to, or sometimes cpanel. They will not
have access to make modifications to apach
You can still run a packet sniffer and see where its getting the files, if
someones that determined.
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> Al
m0gely wrote:
While I applaud this response and it finally being done, I would suggest
making the cvar protected as well. Many people probably use a web host
that they have only FTP access to, or sometimes cpanel. They will not
have access to make modifications to apache itself. I think both
Alfred Reynolds wrote:
And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web
server contains the following line:
Referer: hl2://
You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this
information.
- Alfred
We will look at adding an X-header to the request.
- Alf
Alfred Reynolds wrote:
And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web
server contains the following line:
Referer: hl2://
You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this
information.
While I applaud this response and it finally being done, I would sug
Yes it Really Happens
Munra
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Is this really what is happening? People running servers going to other
servers and ba
So does this mean it is already Done or do we need to wait for the next
update
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From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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And bam, already done. E
Is this really what is happening? People running servers going to other
servers and basically pirating the sv_downloarurl for their own server?
Sheesh...how low can some people sink? I always wondered why, when I changed
my sv_downloadurl, I would keep logging all these requests to the old url.
So
that's still not going to stop anything, it's a simple matter to see
what computers your computer makes connections with. Using a referer
seems to be the best way to go, and allow/disallow that way.
On 6/6/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the initial request has gotten lost in the th
nice if sv_downloadurl showed ** instead of the URL to the
public.
Dagok
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And bam, already done. Each req
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I'm quite sure you can handle referer stuff.
On 6/6/05, Rick Payton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sweet! Too bad I run IIS :P
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I'm quite sure you can handle referer stuff.
On 6/6/05, Rick Payton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sweet! Too bad I run IIS :P
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On 7/06/2005 12:41 p.m., Alfred Reynolds wrote:
And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web
server contains the following line:
Referer: hl2://
You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this
information.
- Alfred
No special modules needed - the
.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web
server contains the following line:
Referer: hl2://
You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this
information.
- Alfred
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Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
> We will look at adding an X-header to the request.
>
> - Alfred
>
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We will look at adding an X-header to the request.
- Alfred
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Monday, June 06, 2005 5:26 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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> Mikee wr
Mikee wrote:
How would you use the .htaccess to only allow folder access from a given
server IP, since it is basically a web url based access?
If you restrict it to the server ip then the feature won't work. The
client downloads the files, not the server. And since you have no idea
what the
5 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
How would you use the .htaccess to only allow folder access from a given
server IP, since it is basically a web url based access?
It is amazing what can be done with that file, so I don't doubt you.
Posting how to customize it for
d be
handy...I'm just wondering if a player doesn't need to have their own player
IP to access it however...which would open it back up to everyone.
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> I just tried what should have worked. I put this .htaccess in the
> folder on the webserver that has my maps.
>
> \root-level\hlds_downloads\.htaccess
> \root-level
r.cfg. This is a big problem, as most websites have limits on monthly
bandwidth transfers.
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How would you use the .htaccess
wondering if a player doesn't need to have their own player
IP to access it however...which would open it back up to everyone.
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This was posted on the Source DS (Windows) team forums. POsting it here in
hopes that it will get directly to Valve.
"ok a little problem is people being able to just type sv_downloadurl in
console
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