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We have a similiar thread going within our community forums. Some are
very mad, some ambivalent, and some ready to embrace the change. We
are an older CS 1.6 community that manages to chug along
I was 22 when Neil took that first small step (which was more like a jump). :)
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From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:36 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
I remember very well
.
You might as well tell us all that the sky is blue.
Cheers,
Chris.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna
Sent: 11 December 2006 21:40
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
that the sky is blue.
Cheers,
Chris.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna
Sent: 11 December 2006 21:40
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Understood... but I was just using the Cable
: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Can ya beat 42??
:)
From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/12/09 Sat AM 06:28:24 CST
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
... waffling more than John Kerry. ROFL!
Okay... seriously
a number.
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From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 2:18 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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I quit counting at 45. 50 is waaayyy too close for comfort, and old age
pains are already
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I quit counting at 45. 50 is waaayyy too close for comfort, and old age
pains are already moving in. sigh Youth just didn't last long enough,
did
it? But better to be old, crochety and wise then young and dumb :-P
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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 12:10 PM
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Easily. 47. But I'm sure there are a few here that can beat even that :)
Can ya beat 42
AMEN brother I think that is good advive:-)
Jason
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From: Edward Luna[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12/11/06 10:17:07 AM
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I know it's way off
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From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
By many years... rofl. Lets put it this way... when I was a kid we listened
to radio because there were very few televisions
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From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Understood... but I was just using the Cable TV thing as an example of a
dramatic departure from the accepted norm
to cash the checks, but if they don't I'll still run my server.
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From: Saint K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:02 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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Goin on about the TV stuff, your TV
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Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Can ya beat 42??
:)
From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/12/09 Sat AM 06:28:24 CST
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
... waffling more than John
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'Anyone else thinking that ads could be a toe in the water test for giving the
game away for free?
What does everyone think???'
I will bet a million bucks that Valve will not give
Saint K. wrote:
interview: advertisements coming to cs
In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and let
that sink in a bit. CS-Nation has the exclusive first interview with
Valve's
Doug Lombardi about this upcoming addition into the Counter-Strike world.
CS-Nation:
Frankly I fail to see a connection between in-game ads and server
hosting as long as we are discussing it from server operator
perspective. Am I missing something?
On 08/12/06, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
interview: advertisements coming to cs
In-game advertisements are coming to
Well I didn't buy BF2142 due to this.If this happens I will no longer buy
VALVe games.Which I currently own most of.And I've been looking for a really
good reason to move my 6 year old community to a better game,which I thought
CS:S would be nobody played it.
So if this happens good bye CS
that
fits just about every taste and style?
Remember... when your done changing, you're done.
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From: [DMA]RocketUSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Can ya beat 42??
:)
From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/12/09 Sat AM 06:28:24 CST
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
... waffling more than John Kerry. ROFL!
Okay... seriously now. I've seen this all before and you
/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can ya beat 42??
:)
From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/12/09 Sat AM 06:28:24 CST
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
... waffling more than John Kerry. ROFL
Easily. 47. But I'm sure there are a few here that can beat even that :)
Can ya beat 42??
:)
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51. But who's counting. :)
On 12/9/06, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Easily. 47. But I'm sure there are a few here that can beat even that :)
Can ya beat 42??
:)
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People saying they are older than everyone else on the list are just playing
a poker hand.
On 12/10/06, HSantal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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51. But who's counting. :)
On 12/9/06, Ook [EMAIL
I quit counting at 45. 50 is waaayyy too close for comfort, and old age
pains are already moving in. sigh Youth just didn't last long enough, did
it? But better to be old, crochety and wise then young and dumb :-P
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51. But who's counting. :)
Glad I'm not the old guy here. I'm only 50.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 13:18
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
I quit counting at 45. 50
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PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 07:28:24
-0500 ... waffling more than John Kerry. ROFL! Okay... seriously now.
I've seen this all before and you guys are 100% correct to be concerned
: Dustin Tuft
Date: 12/9/2006 1:11:40 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
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I can see your point, but when was the last time you sat down to play a
board game like Risk only to be interrupted
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I can see your point, but when was the last time you sat down to play a
board game like Risk only to be interrupted every so often by some guy
trying to get you to buy
another valve product again thats for damn sure.
what is more i hope gabe dies from choking on a doughnut that fat disgusting
slob.
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From: Ben
Date: 12/09/06 14:03:36
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
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07:28:24 -0500 ... waffling more than John Kerry. ROFL! Okay...
seriously now. I've seen this all before and you guys are 100% correct to be
concerned
Well like I have said in my forums.If they blend it into a game where it's
not so obtrusive it wouldn't be that bad.Like making the coke machines on
office actual coke machines of ballz machines or making the computers actual
dell computers ect.But I can see signs put into the game that look akin
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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:42 PM
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here is what came up in the retail cd istallation
YOU SHOULD CAREFULLY READ THE FOLLOWING END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
BEFORE INSTALLING THIS SOFTWARE PROGRAM. IF YOU
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LOL you obviously don't know much about the law chad.
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From: Chad
Date: 12/09/06 14:47:36
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
here is what came up in the retail
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Such EULAs are not valid in Germany, because you will see this EULA at
installation time and you can not give back an opened software package. So,
whatever this EULA tells us, it is not valid in every country of the world.
Regards
Ronny
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I can see your point, but when was the last time you sat down to play a
board game like Risk only to be interrupted every so often by some guy
trying to get you to buy a chess
This is probobly the worst idea possible for the game. But I'm looking at a
different angle than most (unless I missed it. I didn't read every post in this
thread),
Lets recap a bit and do a quick look into the crystal ball;
1) The people most responsible for the continuing success of the
to spam adds, then thats will ill shut down all of my
servers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12/09/06 18:15:34
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
This is probobly the worst idea possible for the game. But I'm
Seems like you, guys, are trying to make decisions for your community.
Personally I'm not going to do anything with my servers as long as my
community is playing there. Simply because I spent all these money
building community not hosting servers and I won't hurt my community
just to express my
wants advertisements in CS 1.6
interview: advertisements coming to cs
In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and let
that sink in a bit. CS-Nation has the exclusive first interview with
Valve's
Doug Lombardi about this upcoming addition into the Counter-Strike world
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mick
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Dezember 2006 14:11
An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
I would agree, and express the same sentiments, although in
slightly less colourful language. :)
Mick
An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
I would agree, and express the same sentiments, although in
slightly less colourful language. :)
Mick
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From: Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux
@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
interview: advertisements coming to cs
In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and
let
that sink in a bit. CS-Nation
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To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
interview: advertisements coming to cs
In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and
let
This brings some interesting questions:
* How are they going the ensure the adds are region specific
This is required to ensure that the language is correct and
local laws adhered to.
* How are they going to deal with the case that the ad's
may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or
Does Valve get money if Intel sponsers some tourney?
Does Valve get money if you get your server free/cheaper if you make
advertising for your hoster?
Does Valve get money if you get any money for advertising on server?
And now - will Valve get money if they add ads ingame?
You are allowed to
interview: advertisements coming to cs
In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and let
that sink in a bit. CS-Nation has the exclusive first interview with Valve's
Doug Lombardi about this upcoming addition into the Counter-Strike world.
CS-Nation: Many gamers who play
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And if you dream that the quality of updates for Valve games will be
better due this, you should better wake up and see the reality ;)
I have to agree with the above statement until valve proves otherwise.
On 12/9/06, ShootMe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:)
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mick
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Dezember 2006 14:11
An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
I would agree, and express the same sentiments, although in
slightly less
As far as region specific, don't you specify what
language you speak when you install Steam?
I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at
ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo
I can understand, but this is just rediculous.
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Anyone else thinking that ads could be a toe in the water test for giving the
game away for free?
Think about it, Valve get no revenue beyond the initial purchase price at the
moment, but if they could get a regular stream of cash from ads
Doubtful, knowing Valve if they were to implement
this, they are going to charge both for the games and
force ads down our throat. I just hope they don't go
for this retarded idea. The game was paid for, there
is no reason for us to have to deal with ads.
--- Gigabit Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the
'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of
people did not buy the game based on it.
I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for
maintaining: the games, the update system, the many
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How about leave the advertisements out of paid for games and put advertising
into 3rd party mods. For creators to get revenue.
Advertise the mods on steam.
You want to help the modding community but also want revenue for yourself
understandable,
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Anyone else thinking that ads could be a toe in the water test for giving
the game away for free?
Think
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In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the
'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of
people did not buy the game based on it.
I think some arguments for having
not liking this ride if it's true.
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM
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Some of you seem
Was Valve quietly bought out by EA? Or do they just hope to be?
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From: [DMA]RocketUSA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM
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IF this all is true, Valve
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Yeah, total BS.
Someone mentioned the ads will be client side. If so, the client should be able
to block the ads. Then of course Steam could make more money doing like Pay
3.95 per month to remove the ads.
So many games are going to this.
Then someone referred to EA and BF. No comparison to CS or CSS. BF2 and BF2142
ROCK, PERIOD!!! They fix their bugs and issues way faster and actually test stuff or
appears they do.
Whatever your smoking, I want some of it. BF2142 and EA fixing bugs? Wait,
first patch for BF2 they released had
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Ooo, one bug compared to CS. And it only affected CTD. Didn't affect our server
or users. But I get what you are saying.
Chris Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then someone referred to EA and BF. No
comparison to CS or CSS. BF2 and BF2142 ROCK,
Then someone referred to EA and BF. No comparison to CS or CSS. BF2 and BF2142
ROCK, PERIOD!!! They fix their bugs and issues way faster and actually test
stuff or appears they do.
Try stand-up, you'd make a fortune, while back in the real world...
CSS is not a big hit as they thought
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