Stefan Huszics wrote:
m0gely wrote:
Who cares where. Just because it's being used on 10 diff subnets
ANYWHERE
oughta be enough.
So if you take your laptop with you on your traveling holiday and
connect a few times you are pretty much f*ed and have to buy a new game? :(
I should have mentioned, 1
Jeremy Brooking wrote:
Oh, you mean like your Original post above eric?
My "Original post" had nothing to do with you and was not a flame or
anything even close. In fact, it was a valid suggestion for a
resolution of the topic issue. Apparently you refer to my "Original
post" as the amazingl
I think Simon's point is, what if you ban the actual owner of the key?
We've taken a fairly hardline stance with this, and say "tough luck" if
someone complains about being banned if their CD key appears to be in
general use (ie, we can see a lot of different players with the same WONID
from a var
Got a new box coming in and was thinking about using FreeBSD this go around
since I can't get rid of the cpu spikes on linux. I remember reading in the
archives some recomendations about how to compile the FreeBSD to properly
handle hlds but I am unable to find them again.
So any recommendations o
> -Original Message-
> From: "Simon Garner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You cannot ban a player just for using the same key
> as another player.
Sure I can.
Key-sharing? No, I don't believe it. Multiple keys are used for one
thing: cheating. Anyone I see flip flop between keys, I'll ban th
> You can give me any IP Address and I
> can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP.
Granted you are on the same subnet...You can't just get anyone else's
traffic? If you can, please explain...
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 00:08, Britt wrote:
> Its clear text for sure in UDP - but in TCP its formed in a s
Quoting Britt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You can give me any IP Address and I
> can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP.
210.56.34.71
Yes the address is up.
Yes the address is routable.
Yes I know you cant ping it.
Yes this box does traffic, adverages 2mb/s
No it does not run a CS server.
So s
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:08 PM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Britt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can give me any IP Address and I can sniff/watch the traffic
> from that IP.
Uh? no. Dream on.
-Simon
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Jeremy Brooking wrote:
Simon Garner wrote:
This might help fix the timeout/reconnect issue. But it still doesn't
help you to determine which player is the legitimate owner of the key
and which is not. That is the crux of the problem. You cannot ban a
player just for using the same key as another p
Its clear text for sure in UDP - but in TCP its formed in a set packet -
which can be disassembled and viewed. You can give me any IP Address and I
can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP. SSL encrypts the entire TCP
packet - I'm speaking the % garbling it to make it harder to understand what
t
Eric (Deacon) wrote:
OK, I've figured you out. You're a political adviser for the DNC.
Heh, I couldn't resist ;)
And you either:
Work for Bill
or
Work for the CIA writing Bush's speeches.
:)
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Simon Garner wrote:
This might help fix the timeout/reconnect issue. But it still doesn't
help you to determine which player is the legitimate owner of the key
and which is not. That is the crux of the problem. You cannot ban a
player just for using the same key as another player.
-Simon
Totally
Jeremy Brooking wrote:
Eric (Deacon) wrote:
Jeremy Brooking wrote:
Eric (Deacon) wrote:
Yes, you've figured me out :roll:
Do you have anything intelligent to say? Praise or criticizm of the
idea, or are you just a jackass?
Oh of course eric, you are the only person has puts positive input into
t
James Clark wrote:
I don't think "cd key in use" problems should be lumped together with
cheating - they're a different issue.
Why not? The worst cheaters are also CD-Key stealers/traders.
...and some of the best players, occasionaly get "CD Key in use".
But ban them anyway, because they co
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Huszics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> m0gely wrote:
>
> >> And what exactly defines multiple locations?
> >>
> >> There is no possible way of telling, where an IP resides.
> So determining
> >> 'multiple locations' is not practical.
> >
> >
> > Who cares where.
Eric (Deacon) wrote:
Dude, if you want to keep being a jackass, go for it. But you're just
feeding the flames of your own fire that you started.
lol, hypocrite.
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Simon Garner wrote:
Plastic wrappered aren't they? I can't remember - been a while since
I bought my copy.
They should be, but not always.
-Simon
Not to mention, those plastic wrapper machines most companies have...
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On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:02 PM [GMT+1200=NZT],
James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I also think people are getting confused between two things
>
> 1 - multiple people using same key.
> 2 - the 'key is in use' issue some people suffer when it isn't
> actually in use.
>
> This thread
> And what if some punk with a keygen gets lucky and generates your key,
> then goes and plays CS - then you go to play and it says the key is in
> use and you get banned?
As far as I know you'd have to be VERY lucky to do this with WON.
Yes I do know what it is like for this to happen - I bought
Tony Di Schino wrote:
Unfortunately, I doubt that will even happen with the deployment of
IPV6
I dunno about that...
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/22/1413248&mode=flat&tid=126&tid=95
The 'Impending IP crisis' is over stated.
Less than half the 4 1/2 billion hosts ipv4 provides are
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:27 PM [GMT+1200=NZT],
James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When it has become an issue it doesn't matter who it is, the owner or
> the owners mate... both will be made to pay (and learn). In much the
> same way as all of those "brothers" out there got caught wit
According to the great words of Simon Garner:
> I can't really see them caring too much about
> some kid stealing the rcon password for some other kid's l33t cs
> server...
Depends on what was hacked and what other stuff is in the server farm.
Maybe an e-commerce website? Cusomer information? Alt
- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Stroven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Latest VAC update
> "Right, I am pissed off to say the very least."
>
> Probably not the best way to start the email. Maybe towards the
Eric (Deacon) wrote:
Exactly, Stefan. If the CD-KEY IN USE error message comes up, it's
because Valve's received the communication, looked it up, and given it
the thumbs-down. If it's coming from the same IP, then don't worry
about it. If it's coming from different IP's, reject that CD-Key for
Computer crime laws have become stiff in the USA - just by intruding into
that machine either directly or indirectly is a felony in the US - so
something would be done about it - we've done it several times.
Britt
- Original Message -
From: "Simon Garner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PR
m0gely wrote:
Who cares where. Just because it's being used on 10 diff subnets
ANYWHERE
oughta be enough. Anytime a client gets "CD-KEY" in use, valve should
know
about it. And action could be taken. Location is irrelevant.
Thats the point, location is irrelevant. You could use a dialup, and b
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:07 PM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow...how often does that happen? Maybe since it's never happened to
> me, I didn't think about it. Your connection to your ISP can be
> severed, reconnected, and for whatever reason assigned a new I
Game Servers wrote:
How do u keep an rcon secure if it's not encrypted?
By not using the rcon EVER.
Instead install eg Adminmod or AMXmod and the rcon will not be sent over
the internet.
This of cource assumes that when you say "he said he hacked our server"
you are talikng about the CS-server-pr
Game Servers wrote:
I understand that what he was telling me was common sense. I already
did everything that he told me and what you told me before I even
posted. So please don't say I didn't do anything.
Dude, if you want to keep being a jackass, go for it. But you're just
feeding the flames o
Wow I was about to thank you for your help. Until u flamed me. It was
a legit question since I didn't want to send an email directly without
going through a chain of commands type thing. Apparently you are the
ignorant one. This list is for help not start flame wars. I have found
this list to
Stefan Huszics wrote:
I seem to recall, once upon a time, that there can sometimes be a delay
between when a CD-KEY is active and then shown inactive on WON. Leading,
sometimes to false "CD-KEY IN USE" errors...
But is it likely that the users IP would have changed before the wonid
database manage
--- Game Servers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How do u keep an rcon secure if it's not encrypted? I have fixed
> this
rcon_password ""
rcon by nature is a vulnerability. use admin_mod or amx.
> gg if u have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from
> posting.
right back atcha, pally.
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:36 AM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Britt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can easily sniff network traffic if you have the target IP and
> resolve their MAC Address with certain progs out there - however
> since this is all UDP - not much you can do - if it used TCP - you
> could
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seem to recall, once upon a time, that there can sometimes be a delay
between when a CD-KEY is active and then shown inactive on WON. Leading,
sometimes to false "CD-KEY IN USE" errors...
But is it likely that the users IP would have changed before the wonid
database ma
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:23 AM [GMT+1200=NZT],
Mad Scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In most places, it's illegal. And by the way you're describing it,
> there
> is definite traceable evidence if the attacker is doing that much
> activity. Try calling your local cyber crimes police fo
--- Game Servers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> How do I report a wonid to vac so that they can permanently ban it?
>
>
>
> The wonid is 660394. He hacked our server and is banning everyone,
> kic
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