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>>> On 11/24/2010 at 04:50 PM, William D Carroll
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> My Original Comment on this whole thing was the a 3270 Emulator really is not
> a GUI. It is a text based impl
>>> On 11/24/2010 at 04:50 PM, William D Carroll
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> My Original Comment on this whole thing was the a 3270 Emulator really is not
> a GUI. It is a text based implementation on a GUI desktop, that does not
> make it a GUI, your still typing commands.
Of course it is, when you use i
x27;Doug' Carroll
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of asking.
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Richard Schuh
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That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she ce
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That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife
may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she certainly knows
the accounting systems that s
That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife
may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she certainly knows
the accounting systems that she uses via a GUI interface. In fact, the GUI
represents an increase in productivity.
I would suggest that i
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>>> On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George He
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He said he liked typing, not killing trees...
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On 11/23/10 1:30 PM, "Mark Post" wrote:
On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George Henke/NYLIC
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>> Please tell ur laughing friends that GUI, *point and click*, is for people
>> who can't type.
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> If you really believe that, t
>>> On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George Henke/NYLIC
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> Please tell ur laughing friends that GUI, *point and click*, is for people
> who can't type.
If you really believe that, then I would like to hear your reaction after
giving up your 3270 emulator and doing all your work from a 2714.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> Advanced sysprogs may or may not appreciate this, but novices
> will certainly benefit from such advances in these user interfaces.
As can those who are keyboard challenged, regardless of their experience level.
Hmm - without a workstation agent I guess this might be a non-runner -
shame, I think I'd have learned a lot from trying to get it working
even if I'd only ever got as far as getting the CMS Desktop to
(sort-of) function.
I empathise with the young folk because I can still recall the
challenge it
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Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that ship
ped
> Anybody using it?
Sort of.
> Anybody prepared to admit they're using it?
Kris Bulens is the master dude of CMS GUI stuff. Dave Jones and I did some
stuff with it a few years back and there are some cool example bits on the VM
Download Library, but the clients have all but disappeared, the M
The VM/CMS GUI was interesting in it's day as an end user tool. Today, user interface
technology is far beyond what it could ever have dreamed of. Also, the interaction
available with the system (z/VM) has grown up many fold. Systems Programmers can choose
to use a GUI or the green screen, wh
hind the GUI curtain.
Jeff Gribbin
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Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the
Hi, Jeff.
Yes, the VM GUI facility still exists.
On 11/23/2010 06:54 AM, Jeff Gribbin wrote:
> Greetings folks,
> Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that shipped
> with VM/ESA 2.1 - and now I'm in a position where I might for the first time
> actually be able to confi
Perceptive choice of words, "prepared to admit".
The GUI is another terrific bit of work by the Endicott team that we turned
our noses up at. It uses the same agent as ... shoot ... ISPF, I think. So
the last time I ran it (on 5.4, within the past year) I had to steal an
agent from one of the MV
Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that ship
ped
with VM/ESA 2.1 - and now I'm in a position where I might for the first t
ime
actually be able to configure a z/VM system to allow me to play with the
beast, I got to wondering if it even still exists.
T
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