I was talking with a co-worker yesterday about getting the AC working in our
MBs. She has a pristine '83 300D, and with the heatwave we're experiencing
up here--it's all relative folks--we'd both like to find a place locally to
re-charge our R12 systems without converting to 134a like all the sho
tgeist
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Subject: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?
I was talking with a co-worker yesterday about getting the AC working in our
MBs. She has a pristine '83 300D, and with the heatwave we're experienc
I was talking with a co-worker yesterday about getting the AC working
in our
MBs. She has a pristine '83 300D, and with the heatwave we're
experiencing
up here--it's all relative folks--we'd both like to find a place
locally to
re-charge our R12 systems without converting to 134a like all the
Hey Jim, thanks for the link. Are you still running the isobutane/propane
mix in your rigs? I was recently given an ancient Bear brand A/C recovery
unit (minus some key components), so now I have access to lots of spare R-12
hoses and fittings. I gather it would be unwise to operate the vehicle
e AutoFrost and have somebody else to
do the work. Even better would be somebody who'd let me help so I could see how
its done.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:10:58 -0400
From: "Scott Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C servi
Curt Raymond wrote:
>
> Has anybody ever gotten a shop to use one of the alternate refridgerants?
If I owned the shop, and I was set up for R12 reclaiming (I'd have to be
in order to do R12->134a conversions) I'd suck out your R12 and replace it
with whatever you wanted if you provided me with t
Ok, so I stopped by the local outdoor store, but became confused by the
dizzying array of propane/butane/isobutane etc. and beat a hasty retreat
back into my car and a thumb-sucking fetal position. I thought I wanted
straight isobutane, which they don't carry. There were some mixtures of all
thr
Ok, so I stopped by the local outdoor store, but became confused by the
dizzying array of propane/butane/isobutane etc. and beat a hasty
retreat
back into my car and a thumb-sucking fetal position. I thought I
wanted
straight isobutane, which they don't carry.
No, it's all a mix. IsoPro is
You can use a regular R12 can tap clamped to the side of the
can, or do what I did and sacrifice a Goodwill camp stove to
get the proper tap fitting. Hose clamps and a bit of fuel
line rounds out the tool. Then you can put away a partial
can if you want.
-- Jim
ow
its done.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:10:58 -0400
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[why the hell do I do that? I sent that out before I was done
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Uh yes, as I was attempting to pontificate...I'm trying to figure out the
best way to tap into the cans. They're much wider and squatter than your
regular freon can, so my tap won't apparently work. I don't want t
Uh yes, as I was attempting to pontificate...I'm trying to figure out
the
best way to tap into the cans. They're much wider and squatter than
your
regular freon can, so my tap won't apparently work. I don't want to
buy an
expensive stove, just to canniballize and use for my illicit purposes.
Jim Cathey wrote:
>
> Until I found my expensive stove for cheap at Goodwill, I made a strap
> out of a coat hanger that I used, in conjunction with two small vise
> grips, to clamp the R12 can tap to the side of the can.
How about a vise grip on the bottom rim of the can and a large hose
clamp
How about a vise grip on the bottom rim of the can and a large hose
clamp up above?
Sure! I just didn't have a hose clamp that large, and it was
quicker to flange one up out of wire than to go get one. Once
I had it, then I didn't need the hose clamp anymore, so I never
did go get one.
-- Jim
I'm still trying to figure out how to gain access to the stuff in the cans,
but I think my can-tap will need to be permanently altered in order to
facilitate the process.
I did some research (ok, Googling) on the subject of isobutane and
refrigerants, and found this company in the UK selling the
I'm still trying to figure out how to gain access to the stuff in the
cans,
but I think my can-tap will need to be permanently altered in order to
facilitate the process.
My tap had a hooked side that slipped over the ridge on the neck of
the can, and a cam lever that latched over the other sid
I guess I need a different can-tap. Mine looks sorta like this one:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q17C5285D
On 6/29/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My tap had a hooked side that slipped over the ridge on the neck of
the can, and a cam lever that latched over the other side. Then the
I guess I need a different can-tap. Mine looks sorta like this one:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q17C5285D
I can see how that would be a problem. Does the metal bit come
out of the pliers? You could take a block of wood and scoop out
a trough for the fuel can, then drill a hole into which to
Update of sorts:
I ended up buying a cheap ebay camp stove and soldering the fitting from my
cheesy clamp-on unit to the stove hose; now I'm in bidness! Charged up the
wife's 123 with not one, but two cans o' Cathey's cajun-style special
hotsauce (isobutane/propane), but it took quite a while fo
Zeitgeist wrote:
> Is there a surefire way to pinpoint the source of the leak without the use
> of dyes?
Since you can hear hissing, how about using a length of hose as a
stethoscope? Just stick one end of a hunk of vacuum or fuel hose in
your ear, and probe with the other end. It's surprising h
I might give that a try. I tried my mechanic's stethoscope, but couldn't
hear anything.
On 7/21/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since you can hear hissing, how about using a length of hose as a
stethoscope? Just stick one end of a hunk of vacuum or fuel hose in
your ear, and pr
Better than soapy water is the bubble making liquid kids play with, cheap
and effective.
Harry
> I might give that a try. I tried my mechanic's stethoscope, but couldn't
> hear anything.
>
> On 7/21/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Since you can hear hissing, how about
Well, I ended up pumping compressed air in there and didn't "see" anything,
but eventually found that the discharge port was leaking when I placed my
hand back there. As I said before, those are new o-rings and the bolt was
pretty damn tight, so I'm not sure how to make this thing seal correctly.
wife's 123 with not one, but two cans o' Cathey's cajun-style special
hotsauce (isobutane/propane), but it took quite a while for the system
to
show some signs of life. As of now it's producing vent temps in the
high
forties, with a low side reading of 20psi and a high side of 120psi
(cloudy
Well, I found out that the inner lip of my discharge port is damaged, which
is causing the loud hissing sound. I remember taking note of this when I
last had the compressor out of the car, but thought the o-ring would be able
to compensate, since the damage is inside the sealing area--no such luc
Well, I found out that the inner lip of my discharge port is damaged,
which
is causing the loud hissing sound. I remember taking note of this
when I
last had the compressor out of the car, but thought the o-ring would
be able
to compensate, since the damage is inside the sealing area--no such
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