Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-02-12 Thread Allan Streib
Well the guy put it up on CL, now asking $3800. Still seems high to me. It's been sitting for months on a corner with a For Sale sign in the window. http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1594810366.html The paint is not as nice as it looks in those photos, the clear coat on the hood is peeling

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
those cars also have head gasket problems. Donald Snook wrote: John F. wrote: "So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 possible cracked head..which is more costly?" Both are bad. That's why the best MB diesel to buy is the 90-93 300D 2.5. Its an awesome car. Donald

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
if you had the 17 head then its been replaced, that is an upgraded head, not the original. Dieselhead wrote: As of now, I have or had 5 OM603s. The lowest mileage when I bought it was 175k. NONE have had cracked head problems. ALL have had the "terrible" 17 head. As long as the suspect 30

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea Dimitri Seretakis wrote: So 87 124 diesels have cracked head issues? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Not the same engine though, the '87 has a 6cyl. I understand they're a bit more powerful and relatively desirable because of it. '87 had the 147hp OM603 '90-93 had the OM602, with I believe a couple of hp less than the 190Dt. '94-95 had the OM606 NA engine with 24v and vari

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread WILTON
: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D As of now, I have or had 5 OM603s. The lowest mileage when I bought it was 175k. NONE have had cracked head problems. ALL have had the "terrible" 17 head. As long as the suspect 300D has not been rec

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Curt Raymond
C,    53310"     To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D Message-ID:     <1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b801db9...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil>     Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" $5k seems pretty high to m

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > As for anecdotal evidence, you are right, and your experience is as > meaningless (Or meaningful) as mine. Exactly... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > John F. wrote: "So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 > possible > cracked head..which is more costly?" > > Both are bad. That's why the best MB diesel to buy is the 90-93 300D 2.5.   > Its an awesome car. > EGR

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Dieselhead
The iron heads crack between the valves and from each valve to the prechamber hole. A crack under 10mm in length is permissible. I have seen iron heads with as many as 15 cracks. Even though no crack was beyond 10mm, several were near 10 mm, so I chose to replace the head anyway. As for an

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Dieselhead
Sorry, my mistake. I meant the 14 head. As near as I can tell none that i had ever had the head off. #14 was the original bad head. #17 and up was improved, so you have lucked out with someone handling the repair before you bought it. John On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dieselhead <126di

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Donald Snook
John F. wrote: "So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 possible cracked head..which is more costly?" Both are bad. That's why the best MB diesel to buy is the 90-93 300D 2.5. Its an awesome car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > (not quite sure the actual mileage since it was paid for by the P.O., > and the work was done at the dealer so pres Presumably correct, that sentence should end. (Hit "send" by accident.) ___ http:/

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Iron heads crack too, especially when abused.  I have replaced far more iron > heads (3 or 4 on Mercedes Diesels) than I have aluminum heads That just goes to show that anecdotal evidence is meaningless. I've NEVER heard

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread John Freer
#14 was the original bad head. #17 and up was improved, so you have lucked out with someone handling the repair before you bought it. John On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > As of now, I have or had 5 OM603s.  The lowest mileage when I bought it was > 175k

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Curt Raymond
him to $2500 if I'd actually had the money to wave at him... -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:12:24 -0500 From: "Allan Streib" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D Message-ID: <1264183944.22213.1356069...@webmail.messagingengine.com&g

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread SteveB
My 87 300D has the 17 head, with 190,000 on the motor and 390,000 on the chassis. Runs great, average around 25 mpg driving fast, but I have seen 30 mpg driving it at the speed limit. Paid $1050.00 for it 3 years ago but had to repair where it was rear ended prior to my owning it. I had offered $10

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread John Robbins
On 1/22/2010 1:27 PM, Dieselhead wrote: "terrible" 17 head. The #14 is the bad one #17 is good. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or c

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Dieselhead
As of now, I have or had 5 OM603s. The lowest mileage when I bought it was 175k. NONE have had cracked head problems. ALL have had the "terrible" 17 head. As long as the suspect 300D has not been recently overheated, there is a very slim chance something is wrong with the head. In later y

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D Well I had said that I was not buying any cars this year but I'd seen this W124 sitting in a yard with a for sale sign for a while. I had some time this morning so I stopped to look at it. It's an '87 300D with (if

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Allan Streib
Tell me more about the cracked head issue. On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:16 -0800, "John Freer" wrote: > So, 95 issues are wiring harness and evaporator issues vs. 87 possible > cracked head..which is more costly? > > John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new an

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread John Freer
$3k. > The true price is only found one way - make an offer! > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:12 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D Well I had said that I was not buying any cars this year but I'd seen this W124 sitting in a yard with a for sale sign for a while. I had some time this morning so I stopped to look at it. It's an '87

Re: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
o:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] looking at '87 300D Well I had said that I was not buying any cars this year but I'd seen this W124 sitting in a yard with a for sale sign for a while. I h

[MBZ] looking at '87 300D

2010-01-22 Thread Allan Streib
Well I had said that I was not buying any cars this year but I'd seen this W124 sitting in a yard with a for sale sign for a while. I had some time this morning so I stopped to look at it. It's an '87 300D with (if the odo is correct) about 173K miles. Nobody was around so I noted the phone n