Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-05-06 Thread Dan
Henning Brauer(lists-open...@bsws.de)@2009.01.06 14:42:09 +0100: > * Toni Mueller [2009-01-06 12:25]: > > > openldap is still a piece of shit, but the ldbm backend is probably the > > > sanest one. > > > > This pattern comes up often, but almost noone suggests an alternative > > LDAP server packa

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* dan-openbsd-m...@ourbrains.org [2009-01-16 19:38]: > Henning Brauer(lists-open...@bsws.de)@2009.01.06 14:42:09 +0100: > > I am not aware of any. Lack of options doesn't make openldap better. > > There is an option for people who have very basic LDAP needs - tinyldap > from fefe.de. It's high q

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-16 Thread dan-openbsd-misc
Henning Brauer(lists-open...@bsws.de)@2009.01.06 14:42:09 +0100: > I am not aware of any. Lack of options doesn't make openldap better. There is an option for people who have very basic LDAP needs - tinyldap from fefe.de. It's high quality but lacks many features at the time.

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-07 Thread Toni Mueller
On Tue, 06.01.2009 at 06:27:17 -0500, ppruett-lists wrote: > Actually a lot linux users suggest using mysql for the non relational > authentication tables > ;) I knew you've got to be kidding! -- Kind regards, --Toni++

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-07 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 06.01.2009 at 14:42:09 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Toni Mueller [2009-01-06 12:25]: > > This pattern comes up often, but almost noone suggests an alternative > > LDAP server package. > I am not aware of any. Lack of options doesn't make openldap better. agreed, but it makes ba

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Toni Mueller [2009-01-06 12:25]: > > openldap is still a piece of shit, but the ldbm backend is probably the > > sanest one. > > This pattern comes up often, but almost noone suggests an alternative > LDAP server package. I am not aware of any. Lack of options doesn't make openldap better. --

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-06 Thread Stuart Henderson
Moving this to po...@. Reply-To/MFT set, please honour it. On 2009/01/06 06:11, ppruett-lists wrote: > > Here's an untested tarball of an updated openldap port, split into > > directories for 2.3 and 2.4: http://spacehopper.org/tmp/openldap.tgz > > > > This issue has been kicked around for maybe t

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-06 Thread ppruett-lists
> This pattern comes up often, but almost noone suggests an alternative > LDAP server package Actually a lot linux users suggest using mysql for the non relational authentication tables ;)

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-06 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 06.01.2009 at 01:08:27 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > I am using openldap with ldbm backend in an not exactly small > installation for 9 or 10 years now. I have never ever experienced a > broken database. never. my last encounter with ldbm, a few years back, drove me to bdb really f

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-06 Thread ppruett-lists
> Here's an untested tarball of an updated openldap port, split into > directories for 2.3 and 2.4: http://spacehopper.org/tmp/openldap.tgz This issue has been kicked around for maybe two years, it has been on the misc list before, https://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/5/20/149

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-06 Thread Rubin
Henning Brauer wrote: > * Philip Guenther [2009-01-06 00:40]: >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Claudio Jeker >> wrote: >> ... >>> Any DB that needs human help after a crash is in my opinion a bad choice. >> So that would rule out the ldbm backend, no? Last I checked the libc >> btree code, a

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread Henning Brauer
* Philip Guenther [2009-01-06 00:40]: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Claudio Jeker > wrote: > ... > > Any DB that needs human help after a crash is in my opinion a bad choice. > > So that would rule out the ldbm backend, no? Last I checked the libc > btree code, a crash while writing out a

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Claudio Jeker wrote: ... > Any DB that needs human help after a crash is in my opinion a bad choice. So that would rule out the ldbm backend, no? Last I checked the libc btree code, a crash while writing out a page split would corrupt the subtree. > If a server

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-01-05, ppruett-lists wrote: > > So choices for those with older openbsd port of openldap with bdb flavor > are: > * don't upgrade ( bad choice) > * upgrade to openbsd 4.4 or current using the official port and renter > data storing in the obsolete backend ldbm (ughhh) > * Or go ahead and

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:46:30PM -0500, ppruett-lists wrote: >> >If your LDAP environment is anything at all like the majority I've >> seen >you will not notice any difference whatsoever (except you'll be >> free >from BDB corruption during a crash). >> > > Yep since I am not write heavy the

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread ppruett-lists
For OpenBSD 4.4 and current the flavor "bdb" is broken on openldap BROKEN=OpenLDAP 2.3 is incompatible with Berkeley DB 4.6 So, what to do? My experience is that compiling BDB and OpenLDAP yourself isn't hard, yep, I remember compiling apache back in the middle 90's For security and la

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread ppruett-lists
>If your LDAP environment is anything at all like the majority I've seen >you will not notice any difference whatsoever (except you'll be free >from BDB corruption during a crash). Yep since I am not write heavy then the non bdb could be okay, but as an afore mentioned in this thread I am co

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:30 AM, P.Pruett wrote: > For OpenBSD 4.4 and current the flavor "bdb" is broken on openldap > BROKEN=OpenLDAP 2.3 is incompatible with Berkeley DB 4.6 > > Most past articles have strongly suggested haveing openldap use "bdb" > as its storage method. Seeing that even t

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread tico
Damn, forgot to send my response to list: Message-ID: <49624a88.3020...@raapid.net> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:59:36 -0600 From: tico User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "P.Pruett" Subject: Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay? References

Re: OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread Vijay Sankar
P.Pruett wrote: For OpenBSD 4.4 and current the flavor "bdb" is broken on openldap BROKEN=OpenLDAP 2.3 is incompatible with Berkeley DB 4.6 Most past articles have strongly suggested haveing openldap use "bdb" as its storage method. Seeing that even the current port is not ready to implemen

OpenLDAP w/o bdb okay?

2009-01-05 Thread P.Pruett
For OpenBSD 4.4 and current the flavor "bdb" is broken on openldap BROKEN=OpenLDAP 2.3 is incompatible with Berkeley DB 4.6 Most past articles have strongly suggested haveing openldap use "bdb" as its storage method. Seeing that even the current port is not ready to implement OpenLDAP 2.4 su