Re: NANOG Elections

2007-10-16 Thread Cat Okita
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Alex Pilosov wrote: Also, possibly, instead of posting to -announce, a direct email to last-registered-email should be sent to each eligible voter reminding them to vote - Some people who attend aren't on any mailing list. (actually, it is an interesting data point, but proba

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-09 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Joel Jaeggli wrote: I actually think the PC has done a pretty good job over the last 6 meetings. It's entirely possible that I have a strong cognitive bias due to my participation in it. However, that reminds me. We could use more nominees/volunteers for the PC, in the next 8

Re: meeting in the Dominican Republic

2007-02-26 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't go to Toronto (among with some others I know), because 32F in NY is still better than 10F there. :) More like 1F. When the mercury climbed to 14F, my windshield washer fluid thawed (yay!). ... and the weather

Re: meeting in the Dominican Republic

2007-02-26 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Lucy Lynch wrote: I'd have a much easier time getting them to let me go to LA or SF, simply because they aren't pervceived as prime vacation destinations, beaches and all. No beaches in Santo Domingo (beaches in LA and SF, however) Are we thinking of the same place? http

Re: meeting in the Dominican Republic

2007-02-26 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Joe Abley wrote: So, to be clear, you do not expect that you'd be able to come to a meeting in the Dominican Republic, but you'd have no such problem persuading people to let you go to (say) Los Angeles or San Francisco? I'd have a much easier time getting them to let me g

Re: meeting in the Dominican Republic

2007-02-26 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Joe Abley wrote: We would be interested to hear what people think about this idea. For example: How would this fit with your corporate travel policies? Would you be more or less likely to attend a winter meeting in the Dominican compared to soemewhere in the US or Canada?

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: I'm 100% OK with Gadi forwarding our personal correspondence and in fact encourage it (both my emails and his responses, please!) so that people can draw their own conclusions. Don't we both wish? What's priv

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote: Never argued with any of that. Thank yoiu for making that clear. How, if you don't mind, I will state that mentioning Robert's lack of professionalism with personal atacks against me, even on this list, was something that I put out as full disclosure for the

RE: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to the point. If we are going to have an MLC, then what should they be doing? How should they be doing it? My opinion is that they should be acting professionally in a manner calculated to encourage other list members to act professionally on the

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: From my perspective these are (collectively) relics of the days before RSS, while I recognize that some are relatively new. I would welcome their migration to another delivery means, along with pointers to them being added to the community wiki. P

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote: There is a lot of participation and operational interest in certain field you currently classify as off topic. ... and this, of course, being a canonical example of the type of communication I mentioned in the previous email, where you have one person asse

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Joe Abley wrote: On 19-Feb-2007, at 09:17, Gadi Evron wrote: There is a lot of participation and operational interest in certain field you currently classify as off topic. ... and this, of course, being a canonical example of the type of communication I mentioned in the p

RE: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MLC should send out a form letter which is carefully worded to avoid giving offense but which firmly states that after polling the members opinions on this issue, most people felt that this topic does not belong on NANOG. Followed by a request fo

RE: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hands-on doesn't have to mean nasty. It could simply mean having a higher public profile and asking more questions. Posting a message that says "X is not an appropriate topic for this list" comes off as heavy-handed. Posting a message that says "Are y

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-18 Thread Cat Okita
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Martin Hannigan wrote: That's not part of the proposal, nor is the article on the Wiki really a proposal. It's a stub to see if anyone in the community is going to contribute to trying to resolve many of the repetitive complaints we've been reading about and discussing. I t

Re: Is there another NANOG somewhere?

2007-02-14 Thread Cat Okita
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: NANOG-L is unique. There isn't anything else devoted to issues for truly large networks, and the providers that manage the distance between them. When I see Cisco (or Juniper, or Extreme) announcements about a vulnerability, those are useful. Nonsense a

Re: (resend) Re: Minutes comments 21 Sep

2006-10-16 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Martin Hannigan wrote: Cat, not necessarily all directed at you, but I've read many of the responses and here goes: Not to worry - my comments were just addressed to the idea of public rating, and not to the performance of the PC in general. cheers! ===

Re: (resend) Re: Minutes comments 21 Sep

2006-10-16 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Curtis Villamizar wrote: Would it help if you could see anonymous ratings without the comments that go with the ratings? Providing the comments would just mean people wouldn't record some (maybe most) of their comments and would have to make comments on the call. While I'd