Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Jens
I put two LR44 in it. It works just fine. Super A Mint- (minor marks in paint, hardly visible at the back). 27 Euro + shipping. Great buy, I think!I took so many nice photographs with a Super A! Thanks for your support PDML'ers. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yo

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread Jens
That's right PJ Alling. Many camera or lens manufacturers seem to confuse macro with close-up. Most macro settings don't really do macro images (capture size equal to 1:1 or larger) - jsut close-ups :-) Regards Jens (from Denmark) -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On J

OT: Compare Canon G1X to Pentax K-5 and others

2012-06-15 Thread Jens
Hello list I have compared my whife's new camera with the K-5 and others. This new compact delivers practically DSLR image quality. Judge for your selves: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157630101344278/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157630018883207/ All the best Jens --

Re: PESO - Good Morning, Mr. Grebe

2012-06-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
Great capture knarF! A minor nit is the proximity of the bird's reflection to the bottom edge. -Original Message- >From: frank theriault >Sent: Jun 15, 2012 10:02 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: PESO - Good Morning, Mr. Grebe > >Last Saturday I got down to the lake nice and ea

Re: Self portraiture

2012-06-15 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-15 19:40 Larry Colen wrote 3) My biggest challenge is that self portraiture is like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear, or perhaps the whole face. just finished reading the catalog for the Francesca Woodman show which i was unable to see at the Guggenheim recently; i ha

RE: PESO Sunny 16

2012-06-15 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker Sent: June 15, 2012 6/15/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO Sunny 16 Nothing earth-shaking, just shooting for the j

Re: PESO - Good Morning, Mr. Grebe

2012-06-15 Thread Jack Davis
Worth getting out early. Nice, well composed shot!   Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: frank theriault To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012

Re: PESO - I try street

2012-06-15 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-15 20:13 Matthew Hunt wrote Street photography isn't usually my thing, but here you go: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/7346807074/in/photostream/lightbox/ http://stdw.us/WingsOfTime mixed impression: i like the contrast of old and young couples, both wearing dark & white s

Re: PESO - I try street

2012-06-15 Thread Jeffery Smith
The angle...why aren't the verticals vertical? I like the subjects. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On Jun 15, 2012, at 21:13, Matthew Hunt wrote: > Street photography isn't usually my thing, but here you go: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/7

Re: Self portraiture

2012-06-15 Thread David Parsons
#2. Set up your tripod. Sit where you'll be posing. Bring camera to your eye and focus on the head of the tripod. Turn off AF. Mount the camera. Adjust focus slightly as needed. On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > When there is noone else around to photograph, self portrai

PESO - I try street

2012-06-15 Thread Matthew Hunt
Street photography isn't usually my thing, but here you go: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/7346807074/in/photostream/lightbox/ http://stdw.us/WingsOfTime Technically, it's boardwalk, not street. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: PESO - Lee

2012-06-15 Thread frank theriault
Thanks, Mark. I'm not sure how much mojo I have, but for some reason certain folks seem to want to get their photo taken. Others, not so much. ;-) Glad you liked this one. Thanks to everyone who commented and looked. cheers, frank On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Mark C wrote: > On 6/13/201

PESO - Good Morning, Mr. Grebe

2012-06-15 Thread frank theriault
Last Saturday I got down to the lake nice and early and got some good light on this red-necked grebe who gave me a nice close-up: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/good-morning-mr-grebe.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri

FS Friday: lenses and assorted gear

2012-06-15 Thread steve harley
i'm in the process of photographing these and putting them on Denver craigslist, but will give dibs to PDML buyers; all prices are plus shipping Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar/6x7 1:4/135 $40 in good condition with Hoya HMC 67mm filter on front; no rear cap SMC Pentax-F 1.7x AF Adapter

PESO Keys

2012-06-15 Thread Bruce Walker
She took requests ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7375836024/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7375836024/ Another image from my "Hollywood Glamour" shoot with Dorothy Weiss in a restaurant on The Lakeshore in New Toronto. K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 34mm f/7.1, 125th sec, 100 IS

Self portraiture

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
When there is noone else around to photograph, self portraits can be a way to experiment with lighting, however when it comes to actually getting decent photos, I keep running into three problems: 1) Framing, I just have to set the camera wide and hope that most of what I want is in the frame.

Interesting users report on the K-01 at The Online Photographer

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
A positive review, though I question the reasoning of not wanting a DSLR, (K-5), for street photography because it's so much bigger than the K-01 and it's shutter is so much louder. Also limiting oneself by eschewing a eye level view finder seems a bit counter intuitive, but at least it's a po

RE: Hello from New Hampshire!

2012-06-15 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Mark Roberts > > >That Dr. Lisa is one hell of a trooper! > > > >Breaks her arm, fixes it herself then goes on a tough ten mile hike > the next day? > > > >Wow! > > > >Look forward to your NH pix and best wishes to Lisa fo

Re: Hello from New Hampshire!

2012-06-15 Thread Mark Roberts
"knarftheria...@gmail.com" wrote: >That Dr. Lisa is one hell of a trooper! > >Breaks her arm, fixes it herself then goes on a tough ten mile hike the next >day? > >Wow! > >Look forward to your NH pix and best wishes to Lisa for a speedy recovery. And a 7-mile hike today which was almost as toug

Re: Flash metering tip: one-button wireless trigger

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> > > Five years ago I was just starting to think I needed to try something > better than my wife's point'n'shoot! :-) I thought you were your wife's point'n'shoot. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT - The power and fear of photographs - or how a 9y.o. kid made a difference

2012-06-15 Thread Darren Addy
Funny... I read the "I contacted Argyll and Bute Council" as "Brute Council" there for just a moment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very nostalgic Jens. I never sold mine. My Super Program is the most beat up of the lot. Still, it is a favorite. Can't beat that TTL flash. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Jens wrote: > Thanks, Brian (and others) - I'll go and get some batteries :-) > > I got a very nice (loo

OT: Fuji X10 sensor replacement saga

2012-06-15 Thread Steven Desjardins
Some of you have heard about the infamous "orb" problem with the Fuji x10 camera. In short, if your scene has a bright light source like a specular reflection or a streetlight at night the sensor will render the bright spot as a sharp edged circle, especially at iso 100. I gather most CMOS sensor

Re: OT - The power and fear of photographs - or how a 9y.o. kid made a difference

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > A small kid started posting photos of her school lunches to her blog. > ... what resonance it made and what came out of that: > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/neverseconds-shut-down/ > > The 2nd weirdest part that is related to th

Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Jens
Thanks, Brian (and others) - I'll go and get some batteries :-) I got a very nice (looks like new) Super A for just 27 Euros in Germany - actually a great country to buy from, that is if you speak German. Because of the language problems (many Germans are not comfartable with speaking or writi

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Once again not really, macro refers to magnification at capture. The magnification ration refers to the size of the image on the recording surface. 1:1 means that the image projected on the surface is the same size as the object being captured. Not as obvious maybe in the case of a three dim

OT - The power and fear of photographs - or how a 9y.o. kid made a difference

2012-06-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
A small kid started posting photos of her school lunches to her blog. ... what resonance it made and what came out of that: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/neverseconds-shut-down/ The 2nd weirdest part that is related to the previous discussions on this list is in the comments. Read the

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Not, really the field of view changes but the magnification doesn't. Until you print it, or do something besides look at the image on the negative or the sensor. Of course, we're talking magnification at different stages in the process. Lan

Re: OT Tarrytown

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Tarry town is less than an hour north of Manhattan. That seems reasonable. ISTR it's about 40 minutes on the train. I never did get a picture of the sign in the train bathroom that said something to the effect of "Close lid before flushing"

Re: Why are we here?

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/14/2012 5:44 PM, William Robb wrote: On 14/06/2012 8:32 AM, Darren Addy wrote: No, I'm not having an existential crisis. I just thought I would share a possible explanation for why we all congregate here on the PDML: It begins with this quote from Juliette Low, founder of the Girl Scouts: "

Re: FS Fryday

2012-06-15 Thread Darren Addy
I'll take the three macro lenses for the total of $75 please. Darren On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > I have for sale, cheap, 3 macro lenses. > All are dusty and may have surface defects. > Priced so you can get 'em and clean 'em. > 2 Tamron 90/2.5 (adaptall) macro le

Re: OT Tarrytown

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Tarry town is less than an hour north of Manhattan. At least the way I drive. On 6/15/2012 3:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Zab, my girlfriend, is currently visiting her mother in Sleepy Hollow. If her mother does shuffle off this mortal coil, there's a chance of my taking a trip back east. I'

FS Fryday

2012-06-15 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I have for sale, cheap, 3 macro lenses. All are dusty and may have surface defects. Priced so you can get 'em and clean 'em. 2 Tamron 90/2.5 (adaptall) macro lenses. One M42 Tak 50/4 macro. Will send pics on request. All 3 for ... $75 shipped (US). Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Not, really the field of view changes but the magnification doesn't. If you print a 1:1 image, of the same subject, the actual size of the capture medium, from any format, say 645, then do the same with 35mm and line up the 35mm print on top of the 645 print the subject will be the same size,

OT Tarrytown

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
Zab, my girlfriend, is currently visiting her mother in Sleepy Hollow. If her mother does shuffle off this mortal coil, there's a chance of my taking a trip back east. I'm pretty much clueless about East Coast geography. Which list members are within a reasonably short distance of Tarrytown/

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
It's interesting that the 1:2 definition has nothing to do with image size, or field of view. A 1:2 lens on a u4/3 is effectively a lot more magnification than 1:1 on a 645, or even a 645D, and about the same as 1:1 on a 35mm. > > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML

OT -- Cuteness overload

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
If you have a fast connection... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/317016 -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, pl

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Damn, I should really read these things before I post them. On 6/15/2012 2:51 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Macro in the good old days usually meant 1:2 as a minimum, for maximum reproduction ratio. When close focusing zooms began to appear it was misused a lot to describe merely close focusing capa

Re: PESO - One for the Rail Buffs

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/15/2012 9:57 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 14/06/2012 13:47, Brian Walters wrote: But possibly not what you're expecting http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0221-k5peso.html Comments, criticism, suggestions, etc appreciated. Beautiful plumage but the pose seems sort of stiff

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Macro in the good old days usually meant 1:2 as a minimum, for maximum reproduction ratio. When close focusing zooms began to appear it was misused a lot to describe merely close focusing capability. So don't be surprised if a lens described as macro is only actually close focusing (reproduct

Re: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > So, what is necessary and sufficient for a lens to be called macro? Someone in the marketing department calling it a macro. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://

RE: What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread J.C. O'Connell
the macro term is loosely applied, in general in means some sort of close focussing, ususally 1:5 magnification or greater. To me a "real" macro lens is always a flat field prime optimized for closeup, with at least 1:2 mag- nification or greater. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net

Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread P. J. Alling
According to Boz's page on camera bodies, the Super Program/Super A has no mechanical shutter speeds. On 6/15/2012 9:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I think that was true of the ME Super, but the Super Program (?) Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/j

What does the "macro" mean?

2012-06-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
... Well, I understand the meaning of the word. But what does it actually mean in the lens designation? The new Sigma 18-250 lens is called "macro" "with a maximum magnification ratio of 1:2.9": http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/06/15/Sigma-launches-18-200mm-F3-5-6-3-Macro-HSM-superzoom-lens On

Re: OT The Luminous Landscape has an OM-D review.

2012-06-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Very positive.  I just like to point out a bit of hypocrisy, the reviewer > glosses over the fact that Olympus m43 lenses are thin on the ground by > pointing out the lenses from other manufactures and huge number of legacy > lenses usable /wi

Re: PESO: Teeny-Tiny Energetic Updraft

2012-06-15 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks to all for the kind comments. The elevated nature of this updraft allowed me to get very low to include the foreground growth. Interestingly, I originally cropped it square because I first disliked how I had centered the subject, but after looking at it, it appears that even with that "defec

Re: OT: Images with great timing and angle of view

2012-06-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Those are fun. Thanks, Dan for posting. This image is a good catch as well. (The caption is "The second face of Sergio Ramos") http://euro2012.lenta.ru/photo/2012/06/14/espirl/#pic011 Igor Wed Jun 13 09:45:17 EDT 2012 Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Some of these we have seen before, but they are

Re: PESO - One for the Rail Buffs

2012-06-15 Thread mike wilson
On 14/06/2012 13:47, Brian Walters wrote: But possibly not what you're expecting http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0221-k5peso.html Comments, criticism, suggestions, etc appreciated. Beautiful plumage but the pose seems sort of stiff. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: Why are we here?

2012-06-15 Thread mike wilson
On 14/06/2012 20:16, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy No, I'm not having an existential crisis. I just thought I would share a possible explanation for why we all congregate here on the PDML: It begins with this quote from Juliett

Re: PESO - PAD - Anniversary - Print-a-Day-16

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree that you have captured some wonderful expressions in this image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:45 AM, George Sinos wrote: > This is number 16 in the series "Print-a-Day for 30 Days." > >

Re: OT: Good value Lightroom 4 e-book

2012-06-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 14, 2012, at 16:40, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Chris Mitchell > >> I did mention British Pennies which might have given a clue that it >> might only be available in what is known to colonial areas as >> "international", but maybe I should have pointed out clearly that such >> an offer may

Re: PESO - PAD - The Brandeis Building - Print-a-Day-15

2012-06-15 Thread George Sinos
I was surprised to find an entry for the Brandeis Building on Wikipedia. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:13 PM, knarftheria...@gmail

PESO - PAD - Anniversary - Print-a-Day-16

2012-06-15 Thread George Sinos
This is number 16 in the series "Print-a-Day for 30 Days." This is my cousin and her husband on their 24th wedding anniversary. They're watching a video of their family history that was put together, as a surprise, by their daughters. Thi

Re: Flash metering tip: one-button wireless trigger

2012-06-15 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Bruce Walker > >> Well, no. I'm assuming that we're *already* using wireless triggers >> and receivers instead of a long PC sync cord. This is pretty common >> now that these things can be had for $10 each now. >> >> I'm showing how you

Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Agreed, no batteries - no function. I always carried 2 spares in a hearing aid container. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > > Quoting Jens : > >> I bought an old, used Super A. One of the best Pentax'es I've ever had. >> But the shutter won't work. The batt

Re: PESO Sunny 16

2012-06-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bruce Walker : Nothing earth-shaking, just shooting for the joy of it. No metering, no flash, no automation. Just followed the "sunny 16" rule ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7373321468/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7373321468/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/16, 125th s

Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Jens : I bought an old, used Super A. One of the best Pentax'es I've ever had. But the shutter won't work. The battery is off. SHould it work at 1/125 sec. without the battery?. I can't seem to see this in the manual. Answers are gratefully appreciated. Thanks in advance. It's b

Re: Flash metering tip: one-button wireless trigger

2012-06-15 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker Well, no. I'm assuming that we're *already* using wireless triggers and receivers instead of a long PC sync cord. This is pretty common now that these things can be had for $10 each now. I'm showing how you can simplify the "arm meter, press button on trigger to fire flash, r

Re: Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Jack Davis
I think that was true of the ME Super, but the Super Program (?) Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com - Original Message - From: Jens To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012

Re: PESO Sunny 16

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The back-lit leaves are very nice, but the "star" in the upper right really makes this a special image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Nothing earth-shaking, just shooting for the joy of it. No metering, > no fl

Help with Super A/SuperProgram

2012-06-15 Thread Jens
I bought an old, used Super A. One of the best Pentax'es I've ever had. But the shutter won't work. The battery is off. SHould it work at 1/125 sec. without the battery?. I can't seem to see this in the manual. Answers are gratefully appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jens -- Treat others as you w

PESO Sunny 16

2012-06-15 Thread Bruce Walker
Nothing earth-shaking, just shooting for the joy of it. No metering, no flash, no automation. Just followed the "sunny 16" rule ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7373321468/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7373321468/ K20D, DA* 55/1.4 @ f/16, 125th sec, 100 ISO, Manual. Tweak

Re: PESO - Nature Fights Back

2012-06-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Steven Desjardins : That's a nice one. I live in the American South, where non-functional cars are considered lawn ornaments. ;-) I see so much old machinery and buildings just decaying in fields when I ride around. I always want to take more shots if only I could find a place ot pul

Re: more whispers...

2012-06-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Tanya Love : Just off the phone with the guys at Pentax ? they are interviewing me soon to profile me and my work on their blog and also talking about doing some future projects and product reviews of the K-01 and the upcoming K-30, and possibly attending some Pentax events to act as an

Re: OT: Good value Lightroom 4 e-book

2012-06-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Larry Colen : This would have been handy, I recently picked it up in dead tree form, and it would be handy to have it on my phone to read at lunch or whatever. But, it's cost is far more than a british penny. Well, you could always try a Virtual Private Network such as TunnelBe

Re: PESO - One for the Rail Buffs

2012-06-15 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: Beautiful bird well captured. I could only hope for better light, but you had to take what you could get. Yeah - the middle of the day with white sand as a background was less than ideal. I can probably do a bit of work on toning down the background. Tha

Re: PESO - PAD - The Brandeis Building - Print-a-Day-15

2012-06-15 Thread Jack Davis
Well handled shot! Glad this wonderful old building has been saved. I remember my mother working there..so many years ago. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: George Sin

RE: Hello from New Hampshire!

2012-06-15 Thread John Coyle
Sorry to hear of Lisa's accident, Mark - please wish her a speedy recovery and offer my admiration for her stoicism! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Friday, 15 June 2012 11:18

Re: PESO: Teeny-Tiny Energetic Updraft

2012-06-15 Thread David Mann
On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Mark C wrote: > On 6/14/2012 5:11 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> Like most of my brainstorms, this produced next-to-nothing in the way >> of tangible results, but it was still a thing of beauty. >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7187669161/in/photostream/lightbox/