sort of thing addressed by any SQL standard (Thomas?)?
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you have to admit, RH's adoption of PG does increase, in many circles, PG's
credibility.
Of course, PG has credibility with me for other reasons -- it was, IMHO, just
a matter of time before Red Hat saw the PostgreSQL Light.
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limit will be when making
backups using pg_dump or pg_dumpall. You may need to pipe the output of
those commands into a file splitting utility, and then you'll have to pipe
through a reassembly utility to restore.
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've found that things like "scp"
> don't respect a .cshrc umask setting, so you will likely need to check
> permissions when you are working in those directories anyway.
Ah. Of course, Idon't use the csh :-). But I _do_ use scp exclusively
o release a 7.1-2 set that includes RPM-specific bugfixes to the
initscript and files list.
Thomas, which pgtcl problem are you referring to?
FWIW, my extant CHANGELOG entry for the 7.1.1 RPMs currently reads:
* Mon May 07 2001 Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ave to get
myself in gear and get it done.
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cvs tree. (i am also
> > > curious on why it is different, and how the RPM is built).
> >
> > Lamar Owen and I.
>
> Is the current snapshot available?
The current snapshot is the 7.1-1 release as of this time.
>I have submitted fixes twice now for what I am fairly
all, I'd vote for
> putting it in the main tree.
> Perhaps src/rpm-tools/ or some such name.
Let's see where the rest of core and hackers weighs in
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have no use for
> it don't end up pulling/downloading it.
Not counting the JDBC jars, it's a hundred K or so uncompressed. The
spec file is around 30k -- a small amount of code.
contrib/rpm-dist?
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r, otherwise I might miss it). I have a list of messages in an
'RPMS for 7.1' subfolder of my mail folder 'Postgres' that I work
through for each release.
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L 7.0.3, we could ask Alfred about his lazy vacuum
patches, as they work as well for Red Hat 7 as they do for FreeBSD.
Personally, I look forward to the following note being placed into the
docs:
VACUUM: deprecated. And the feature that makes that note possible.
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fferent, and how the RPM is built).
>
> Lamar Owen and I.
Egads! I forgot to mention Trond! My apologies! (I'm being serious...)
Trond, of Red Hat; Reinhard Max, of SuSE; and Thomas Lockhart, of
PostgreSQL Inc (:-)) have all been major contributors to the RPM
distribution. Karl De
ey're not likely to be), I am opposed to the idea -- not
to keep the stuff to myself, but to not hinder the platform-neutral
stance. IMHO, of course.
Of course, there are many projects that DO include all the files
necessary to build RPMs from their Official Tarball (TM).
Bruce, should porti
Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> I would like to know myself. I just did a recursive grep of the entire
> PostgreSQL tree and don't see it. My guess is that it is part of the
> RPM. Not sure who to report that to. I know Lamar Owen works on it,
> but I don't know if he i
tent/enterprise/datawatch/101041201.asp
He seems to be ok on some things, though.
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for 7.1 on 7.1 in our RPM area.
Red Hat 7.1 is _nice_. The PostgreSQL speed appears to be very good,
compared to 6.2/7.0 with the 2.2 kernel.
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this group is more civil than that,
IMHO.
She likely is off for the weekend, and hasn't read any responses yet.
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http://www.crn.com/Sections/Fast_Forward/fast_forward.asp?ArticleID=25670
Marc will be pleased to note that the PostgreSQL project came out of the
FreeBSD project, and is Great Bridge's database. Gotta love
journalistic license.
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ackers group has built out of trees. And I have to
know some details of the trees occasionally. I'm sure Oliver would
agree.
And, to let everyone know, I'm having a blast doing this. And I'm glad
my work schedule eased up some in the last month so I could put some
time to
o. Although, I'd recommend pgsql-cygwin,
lest someone erroneously think we directly support Win32.
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a Jikes-built
JDBC sound to people? Ormaybe I don't understand the Java Way well
enough to decide. Gotta learn it a little
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NARY tree stored offline so
that you can go back to your previous version if the need arises.
Otherwise, enjoy the RPMset :-)
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README.rpm-dist
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Version 3.2, for PostgreSQL
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Lamar Owen writes:
> > In the postgresql-docs subpackage, along with the SGML source.
> Why would you want to ship the source?
For those with SGML tools and viewers, who might like to build hardcopy of
their own. Frankly, it was an e
y standard by consensus -- kaffe ships with
RedHat 7.0 -- isthat an acceptable JDK-substitute?) or someone needs to
package 7.1 JDBC jars for my packaging pleasure. I'm running low enough
on disk space on my devel machines (one of which is a notebook) to make
my own JDK a second choice.
Oli
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Lamar Owen writes:
> > Yes, I am, actually. But it seems a broken way of dealing with it.
> > Although I do have another idea, thanks to Trond. Rather than package
> > '7.1RC4-1' I could package '7.1-0.1RC4' -- giving a straig
Oliver Elphick wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> >as the Debian packages have the same issue -- and I don't know if .deb
> >has an analog to Serial:.
> We have epochs, that is, the package version is preceded by an integer
> and a colon, which overrides every oth
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> Lamar Owen writes:
>
> > One quick note -- since 'R' < 'b', the RC RPM's must be forced to
> > install with --oldpackage, as RPM does a simple strcmp of version
> > numbers -- 7.1RC3 < 7.1beta1, for instance.
e're not likely to
release a 7.1.0 then a 7.0.4 that fixes bugs in the STABLE branch,
whereas at one point Linux 2.0.39, a 2.2.x, and 2.4.0 were being
released concurrently. The same happens with FreeBSDand others -- but
not us.
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> stuff you do under '# man pages' needs some work.
The man pages are still in a separate tarball, or not?
> You probably want
> to run gzip on the files after installation.
Done automagically by the buildrootpolicy of the rpm build system, on
distributions that do buildrootpol
don't have a good JDK on any of my devel boxen --
meaning I'm still shipping the 7.0 JDBC in the jdbc subpackage.
ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/dev/test-rpms,as usual. See
README.rpm-dist in the main package for more details, as it is actually
up to date at this time.
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One quick note -- since 'R' < 'b', the RC RPM's must be forced to
install with --oldpackage, as RPM does a simple strcmp of version
numbers -- 7.1RC3 < 7.1beta1, for instance. Just force it with
--oldpackage if you have a 7.1beta RPM already installed.
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ckage to place docs in the main
package %doc.
HTML docs and man pages are with the main package; SGML source and any
hardcopy docs will go into the docs subpackage. The contrib tree is
getting its own subpackage.
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Uploaded. Please take a look.
ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/dev/test-rpms
There _are_ changes. I will detail the changes for the RC4 RPMset.
Karl's pl/perl changes will go into the next set. pg_dumplo will have a
built binary, to be located in /usr/lib/pgsql/contrib.
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h else -- well,
actually, I just want to make sure I get it right before release, as I'd
like to not have but a couple of days before an RPM release after the
announcement.
Sounds like a plan.
I'm going to upload a set of RC3 RPM's tonight -- there are changes that
I need people to c
The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > Just not well-tested for the RPM build environment :-).
> Ya, but you could concievably test that now, without us doign an RC4 ..
> the files are all there :)
So the structure isn't going to change -- ju
he very least will remain in the main package.
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ports collection using the individual packages instead of
> the great big one) so from a packaging perspective, its well tested ...
Just not well-tested for the RPM build environment :-).
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to doing this -- just questioning the timing.
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http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
6.1.1 look pretty puny.
I'm looking at the package reorganization for the RPM's this morning --
we'll see what I find in a few hours.
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-devel|grep itup
/usr/include/pgsql/access/itup.h
[root@utility i386]#
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cs? Ideas? Comments?
The 'Internals' document is still in the main package, FWIW.
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pload a quickie RC3 RPMset... :-)
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matter. 'Indexes' is just fine. It's
certainly a better plural than 'Vaxen' was in its time; although I am
still inclined to use 'boxen' when referring to more than one computer.
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Professor of English, Anchor Baptist Bib
Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> > H. Hiroshi committed an update to GNUmakefile to 'enable multibyte
> > support' for ODBC. But that was only 33 hours ago -- meaning it wasn't
> > updated in time for RC1. Lessee. I'm rebuilding RC1
ve to trace the build
in detail. And the html docs tree is going to the wrong place...
In any case, a unified or context diff against the 7.1beta4 spec would
be useful.
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tp site right now for ODBC is
broken. I'll fix it tonight or tomorrow -- and the source RPM won't
rebuild on RH 6.2. I'll upload a -2 set tonight or tomorrow to fix
that, and a few other issues I found while dinking with it today.
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Lamar Owen wrote:
> Well, in any case, preliminary 7.1RC1 RPMS are up. There are some odd
> issues with the packaging that I am working on. Be sure to read
> README.rpm-dist -- attached to this message for your convenience.
Forgot to attach the file. :-(.
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Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
> >
> > Any change of getting a 7.1 RC1 RPM? I'm using the beta4 RPMs at the moment
> > but don't seem to be any more recent ones.
>
> I'm building a quickie RC1-1 RPM right now. There are some oth
release -- and I plan on working
a while this Saturday on that -- but my week is so loaded that I'm going
to put out a rebuild of 7.1beta6->7.1RC1 as is -- once I get it to
build.....
Stay tuned...
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Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Did you get the message from Trond about Linux 2.4 x86? I can also
> > verify all tests passed on a RedHat Public Beta installation with kernel
> > 2.4.
> I haven't put those in the lis
; Linux 2.2.16 x86 7.1 2001-03-19, Thomas Lockhart
Did you get the message from Trond about Linux 2.4 x86? I can also
verify all tests passed on a RedHat Public Beta installation with kernel
2.4.
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the regression failure that subsequently took the rest of the
afternoon to track.
Before final release I have a rewrite of the README to do, as well as a full
update of the migration scripts for testing.
I'm looking at /usr/lib/pgsql/contrib/* for the contrib stu
to hub.).
Tomorrow morning, if I can get out of the snow-covered driveway and to work, I
can upload it much quicker.
I'll go ahead and upload the one I'm testing with right now if you'd like.
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now much more leery of our regression suite -- this issue isn't
even tested, in reality. Do we have _any_ WAL-related tests? The parallel
testing is a good thing -- but I wonder what boundary conditions aren't getting
tested.
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rs are you using --- -B and so forth?
Default. To be changed before RPM release, but currently it is the default.
The only option that postmaster.opts records is -D, and I'm not passing
anything else.
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Tom Lane wrote:
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > DROP TABLE temptest;
> > + NOTICE: FlushRelationBuffers(temptest, 0): block 0 is referenced (private 0,
>global 1)
> > + ERROR: heap_drop_with_catalog: FlushRelationBuffers returned
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Tom Lane wrote:
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > DROP TABLE temptest;
> > + NOTICE: FlushRelationBuffers(temptest, 0): block 0 is referenced (private 0,
>global 1)
> > + ERROR: heap_drop_with_catalog: FlushRelationBuffers r
RPM's, or will it be a day or two before RC1?
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*** ./expected/temp.out Sat Jan 8 22:48:39 2000
--- ./results/temp.out Tue Mar 20 16:06:10 2001
***
*** 23,32
(1 row)
DROP TABLE temptest;
SELECT * FROM temptest;
col
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to touch RPM stuff.
This set will be built on both RH 7 and RH 6.2, if I can swing it. More
to follow. Pray for snow in Western North Carolina :-).
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.
See the thread starting at
http://www.postgresql.org/mhonarc/pgsql-hackers/2000-03/msg00107.html
for details.
(And the search is working :-)).
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ter, even if it is
masking a certain amount of shortsightedness on a certain initscripts
author's part. :-)
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ndards, has had a brown paper bag release --
we all still make mistakes (I know -- I've made more than my share of
them).
Anyway, that's more than what the rest of the list wanted to read.
Replies to private e-mail, please.
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ry here? At least they are payrolling
Second Chair on the Linux kernel hierarchy. And they are very
supportive of PostgreSQL (by shipping us with their distribution).
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en. Should be fixed in the latest public beta
of RedHat, that actually has the 2.4 kernel. I can't really say any
more about that, however.
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I am going to sleep 1 and loop sixty times) -- no need to unnecessarily
delay system shutdown (and potential restart). And I won't put in the
-KILL unless I can find a safe and thorough way to do so.
Or I may go ahead and pg_ctl-ize things and let pg_ctl do the dirty
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> Lamar Owen writes:
>
> > I missed something somehwere: wasn't the consensus a few weeks ago that
> > pg_ctl shouldn't be used for a system initscript?
>
> The consensus(?) was that there was some work to do in pg_ctl before i
the grim reaper
yank them in the wrong order for you, in any case.
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> If you think it's easy enough, enlighten the rest of us ;-).
> > If postgres reported PGDATA on the command line it would be easy enough.
> In ps status you mean? I don
e
backends I'll have to experiment. But not tonight -- last week was
more taxing than I thought. :-(.
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> > Postmaster can easily enough find out if zombie backends are 'out there'
> > during startup, right?
> If you think it's easy enough, enlighten the rest of us ;-).
If postgres reported PGDATA on the command line it wo
that day? :-) I certainly have no problem using pg_ctl for this purpose
-- as I have been using pg_ctl to start postmaster all along (then why
am I not using it to stop -- don't answer that :-))..
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al solution is elsewhere, anyway. I just have to make
sure it is not data-corruption broken. And, if leaving the -9 out
completely is the only solution, then, well, it's the only solution.
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postmaster coming up and try to
'sync up' with that postmaster, like the baroque GEMM handshake dance
performed by 386 memory managers when Windows needs to start its own
VMM?
Or should we spend that much time protecting Barney Fife's from their
own single bullet? :-)
Just a nor-easter
Tom Lane wrote:
> The tricky part of this is not to give up the ability to restart when
> there *has* been a crash.
But kill -9 effectively _is_ an admin-initiated crash.
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MIPS for such a purpose)? The last thing I want to do is
wait too long on some platforms and not long enough on others.
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where it doesn't, blame Red Hat. :-)
So we're going to credit Linux for PostgreSQL being shipped as part of
the RedHat distribution since RH 5.0, then? :-0
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my RH _4_.1 CD, but that's just
a _little_ old :-).
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RC=$?
[ $RC -eq 0 ] && success "$base $killlevel" || failure "$base
$killlevel"
fi
fi
Is 6.1 this different from 6.2? This code on the surface seems
reasonable to me -- am I missing something? The 6.2 code (found i
something
cleaner -- compatible, but cleaner. I'll have to research what the
defaults are for later RH's -- but, as 6.1 is one of my target platforms
at this time, I have to fix that issue for sure.
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that I get the contrib stuff in beta5's
RPMset -- I will attempt to do that, but I'm making no guarantees at
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re are other more capable packages out
there, but Netscape works the same on Win9x and Linux, both of which are
in use on my notebook.
I have to keep up, or the e-mail flood after a couple of days is just
about unbearable.
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.2.18 for RedHat 6.2 (the kernel patches applied could in fact
be different enough to matter)?
These are all hypothetical examples, of course -- but Linux is not the
only platform that has these versioning problems just waiting to bite.
Linux probably has more of them than most, but it is not alone in having
them.
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. RPM is pretty good at cleaning the old out.
Sometimes a little too good :-/.
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> In fact, the kernel doesn't even contain have a way
> to measure microsecond timings.
Linux has patches available to do microsecond timings, but they're
nonportable, of course.
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The locale enabled regression results fail due to
> > currency format and collation errors. Diffs attached. I'm not sure I
> > understand the select_views failure, either. Locale used was en_US.
>
t in a non-locale
RPM distribution, or? The locale enabled regression results fail due to
currency format and collation errors. Diffs attached. I'm not sure I
understand the select_views failure, either. Locale used was en_US.
Comments?
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locale-run.diffs
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Lamar Owen writes:
> > And building without locale support doesn't work, either, because, at
> > least on RH 6.1, strncmp() is buggered to use the locale's collation.
> I don't think so. On RH 6.1, strncmp() is the same it's eve
While I want to make sure that a
broken locale data set isn't used, I also want to make sure that a good
locale set isn't thrown out, either. Forcing to LC_COLLATE=C is
overkill, IMHO. And building without locale support doesn't work,
either, because, at least on RH 6.1, strncmp
tion that works is better than mucking around with
the core, particularly this close to release.
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > AOLserver is one example that successfully redirects dynamic linker
> > messages to it's own log.
> Oh? How? Are you sure they're not just piping stderr to a program
> of their own devising? T
"Dominic J. Eidson" wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > A syslogger of stderr would make a nice place to pipe the output :-).
> > 'postmaster 2>&1 | output-to-syslog-program -f facility.desired' or
> 2>&1 | logger -p
lready have generic
log analysis tools set up to work with the OS vendor's logrotate, etc,
it pays to not reinvent the wheel but use the conventions and tools
already provided in the OS. Syslog is a standard way to do this.
Why even have syslog support otherwise? (Extremist? Maybe.)
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he logs. We're not
> > replacing the system fprintf , are we? (my assumption is that we are
> > NOT). The usage of puts(), OTOH, has been well nigh eradicated.
Where is elog() safe? (Going to Bruce 'comb through the archives' mode
here...)
If someone can educate me i
changes there.
Sounds good to me. It appears that you haven't checked in your changes
to CVS as of a few minutes ago, but I like the looks of what you've
posted.
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d be, but if
> people like this idea I will do the legwork to make the list.
Count me as liking it.
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Lamar Owen
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1 Peter 4:11
'm just being a little more specific). The contents of
-devel-spi (or maybe just -spi) would be all the other headers (no
duplicates) (again, expounding upon what Tom said already).
Comments?
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Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11
option for
> your gcc?
No. Full tree takes at minimum 36MB -- even pulling the _entire_
src/include tree over is only 2MB.
> I expect header files on /usr/include/pgsql for client programming not
> for SPI.
Why? I know of several people doing SPI work with no source tree
installed.
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. (1MB of _headers_? Yow!)
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Lamar Owen
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