Noe that the debuger chapter is closed, and you actually did create a
error tracker helper and try to return them client side, I can
understand that you are frustrated by the poor php layer and support
regarding exception handling, but on this point as a lot of people
answer you we are doing that
Hello Andrea,
I did not mean to hurt you, my point was: beeing a Jerk when it's
ending in void conflicts with people, if you don't like their
comments, just don't answer to people.
For my concern, a program cannot be debuged by itself (especially
with a scripting language, we almost did a joke
At 7:28 AM +0200 9/14/09, J DeBord wrote:
In all fairness Tedd, your example is a bit of a joke. Send some JSON back
and forth, do some database queries, and use a webservice all at the same
time. Your AJAX calls won't be so simple then.
Okay, so my work is a joke. Been there, done that
While it's a joke, in all fairness, it does work.
only because you debugged before server side responses, and now, as I have
said, you have an alternative to speed up that process.
Finally, Formaldehyde JS had a typo so only today I realized it and I uploaded
the version 1.01 of
While it's a joke, in all fairness, it does work.
only because you debugged before server side responses, and now, as I have
said, you have an alternative to speed up that process.
Finally, Formaldehyde JS had a typo so only today I realized it and I uploaded
the version 1.01 of
That I created some fresh air or something new? Sure, thanks
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0700
From: li...@cmsws.com
To: an_...@hotmail.com
CC: pa...@quillandmouse.com; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
Andrea
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Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
This should tell you something
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 01:33:49PM +0200, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
snip
This ML is a bit different from what I was expecting,
snip
P.S. I am certified Zend Engineer with 10 years of experience with PHP and
dunno how many innovation awards in phpclasses.org ... so it was not just to
What does this offer that a real debugger, like xdebug, doesn't?
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:37:01 +0200
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error
Debugger
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
something I cannot find in any
Hello Andrea,
I am developing with PHP since now 12 years (did a couple stuff in
Zend Core), and was one of a few guy using and sharing about php when
it was only an THE Apache mode in the world C++ CGI, I am not Zend
Certified, I won't :), anyway those things make me smarter or give me
, that IS what I
was expecting
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:52:11 -0400
From: oorza...@gmail.com
To: pa...@quillandmouse.com
CC: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
What does this offer that a real debugger, like xdebug, doesn't
)
Best Regards
P.S. for others ... these kind of answers, questions, opinions, that IS what
I was expecting
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:52:11 -0400
From: oorza...@gmail.com
To: pa...@quillandmouse.com
CC: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax
Right, errors should never be exposed, and error_reporting should be 0 in
production but log function and the fact you can move Formaldehyde with the
application means it does not require extra effort.
In few words, if in production Formaldehyde constant is false, and it must be
false,
Sorry, I meant environment
... plus you'll have 1:1 production/development application
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Right, errors should never be exposed, and error_reporting should be 0 in
production but log function and the fact you can move Formaldehyde with the
application means it does not require extra effort.
No, display_errors should be turned off (with log_errors turned on)
and error_reporting
No, display_errors should be turned off (with log_errors turned on)
and error_reporting should be set to whatever standard you're coding
to (preferably, E_ALL | E_STRICT, but a lot of people like to ignore
E_NOTICE's).
yep, it should be a production environment
So it's not zero
At 10:49 PM +0200 9/13/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
I was expecting somebody that develop massive Ajax application, not
a link with 3 pages and zero point about the reply.
You asked if anyone did any ajax? So, I replied and provided you with
an example.
Who cares if my example only has
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:05 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote:
At 10:49 PM +0200 9/13/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
I was expecting somebody that develop massive Ajax application, not a link
with 3 pages and zero point about the reply.
You asked if anyone did any ajax? So, I replied
I dont think I understood you completely..
Javascript debugger: Something you use to debug javascript. but
Formaldehyde dosent make any seance if xhr object is not used.
PHP Debugger: We cant use Formaldehyde to debug errors in every single
PHP script. I am talking about pages called directly via
@Andera May be you should consider using application/json as the
content type instead of text/plain.
The Response text given by Formaldehyde cannot be understood manually
(for example if I use jQuery.load()).
Had the content type been application/json firebug parses it by default
my
, and how Formaldehyde manage *any* *kind* of *php* *error*,
something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
Regards
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:20:58 -0400
From: pa...@quillandmouse.com
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:39:43 +0530
To: pa...@quillandmouse.com
CC: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
I dont think I understood you completely..
Javascript debugger: Something you use to debug
as margin note, the project page changed name, hopefully less ambiguous:
Formandehyde - Zero Config Ajax Based PHP Error Debugger
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At 12:20 AM +0200 9/12/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:37:30 -0400
To: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP
Error Debugger
The only
things that may go wrong
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
This should tell you something then...
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On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
This should tell you something then...
If something like Formandehyde isn't useful, then why is Charles so popular
(note: popular from my
At 11:35 PM +0200 9/10/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
Being something nobody thought before I was expecting some comment
... zero Ajax developers here?
Andrea:
No, I develop in ajax. Here's one of my demos:
http://webbytedd.com/a/ajax-site/
Please note that the above site can be
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From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
Subject: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
At 11:35 PM +0200 9/10/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
Being something nobody thought before I was expecting some comment
... zero Ajax developers
At 3:27 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
That's a finished production site ... how did you debug during its
development? 'Cause Formaldehyde is for development, not for
production ... I guess you have implented your own error
manager/debugger, right?
What's to debug?
The site --
Basic Ajax - PHP Error
Debugger
At 3:27 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
That's a finished production site ... how did you debug during its
development? 'Cause Formaldehyde is for development, not for
production ... I guess you have implented your own error
manager/debugger, right
me the scenario is totally different.
Regards
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error
Debugger
From: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
CC: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:39:12 +0100
On Fri, 2009
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 10:35 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 3:27 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
That's a finished production site ... how did you debug during its
development? 'Cause Formaldehyde is for development, not for
production ... I guess you have implented your own error
, 'cause here seems nobody i susing FirePHP or
frameworks debuggers while numbers tell me the scenario is totally different.
Regards
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
From: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
CC: an_
: muxical.g...@gmail.com
To: an_...@hotmail.com
CC: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk; tedd.sperl...@gmail.com;
php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
I do use FirePHP and your project looks interesting to evaluate. Will
check it out
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:37:30 -0400
To: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error
Debugger
The only
things that may go wrong are in the data I am sending to the ajax
routine
, and hopefully useful.
Regards
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:43:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
From: bdun...@agentintellect.com
To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
CC: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
Examine this:
http://webbytedd.com
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:23:44AM +0200, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
Exactly Ben, except when PHP fails, even with a Fatal Error, the page has
status 200, we need to understand which call failed between hundreds of
potential calls in the debugger, and errors could pass silently.
With
Being something nobody thought before I was expecting some comment ... zero
Ajax developers here?
Anyway, to make things even more simple I have released the Zero Config client
side file, which works with most known browsers, IE included, and it does not
require a single change in existent
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