[NF] Python and where it is going.

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen Russell
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[NF] Python Help

2020-01-03 Thread John Weller
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[NF] Python Programming Song

2018-05-23 Thread Stephen Russell
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[NF] Python and MongoDB anyone?

2018-02-21 Thread Stephen Russell
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Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-22 Thread AndyHC
++1 On 22-Aug-17 3:06 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2017-08-21 13:47, Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c) wrote: VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Ivan Martinez Ivan, When is VFP going to stop running? If it runs on Windows 10 today, and M$ is j

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-22 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-21 13:47, Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c) wrote: VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Ivan Martinez Ivan, When is VFP going to stop running? If it runs on Windows 10 today, and M$ is just patching Windows 10 from here out, my wager is that our VFP9 apps will con

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-22 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-21 15:53, Alan Bourke wrote: Nothing, but I wouldn't use DBF files. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, at 06:00 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote: If you're building Windows database apps, what's wrong with VFP? Laurie Exactly. I've been using MySQ

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Alan Bourke
t; > > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ivan > Martinez (imvh.g.c) > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:47 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x > > VFP is the best but it´s obsolete

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Alan Bourke
Nothing, but I wouldn't use DBF files. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, at 06:00 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > If you're building Windows database apps, what's wrong with VFP? > > Laurie > > On 21 August 2017 at 08:04, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > If you jus

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Thierry Nivelet
> > -Mensaje original- > De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Laurie Alvey > Enviado el: lunes, 21 de agosto de 2017 13:01 > Para: ProFox Email List > Asunto: Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x > > If you're building Windows database apps, what's

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Paul H. Tarver
tpcqpc.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c) Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:47 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Iva

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Ivan Martinez (imvh.g.c)
VFP is the best but it´s obsolete. We must look the future. Ivan Martinez -Mensaje original- De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Laurie Alvey Enviado el: lunes, 21 de agosto de 2017 13:01 Para: ProFox Email List Asunto: Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x If you&#x

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Laurie Alvey
If you're building Windows database apps, what's wrong with VFP? Laurie On 21 August 2017 at 08:04, Alan Bourke wrote: > If you just want to build Windows desktop apps, learn something else. > Something like Xojo, or C# and one of the .NET presentation frameworks. > > Python is an excellent gen

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-21 Thread Alan Bourke
If you just want to build Windows desktop apps, learn something else. Something like Xojo, or C# and one of the .NET presentation frameworks. Python is an excellent general purpose language and has many fantastic frameworks for web apps. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm O

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 20, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > > I wondered when we would get to Dabo. But I assumed after your comment that > 3.x Python was the future that Dabo might work with 3. > > How can I reconcile the two pieces of advice? Easy: Dabo depends on a library called 'wxPython' (https

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-20 12:49, Paul H. Tarver wrote: Gotta say, right now it is all very confusing. From all the different frameworks and ide's and modules and platforms and licensing and versions I'm making myself crazy trying to figure out how to proceed. All I want to do is find a language and/or platf

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Paul H. Tarver
I wondered when we would get to Dabo. But I assumed after your comment that 3.x Python was the future that Dabo might work with 3. How can I reconcile the two pieces of advice? Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > >> On Aug 20, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Paul

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 20, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > > All I want to do is find a language and/or platform to build windows desktop > (for now, web later) applications with strong easy database support and > distribute the applications commercially that doesn't cost an arm and a leg > though

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Paul H. Tarver
Gotta say, right now it is all very confusing. From all the different frameworks and ide's and modules and platforms and licensing and versions I'm making myself crazy trying to figure out how to proceed. All I want to do is find a language and/or platform to build windows desktop (for now, we

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > And if you need an additional nudge, support for Python 2.x will end in 2020 Sounds like it's time for a Y2K2X crash program! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 19, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > I guess that was part of the question. The installation for Python 3.x sets > up paths and other stuff that I thought would be exclusive to one version or > the other. But I guess you are saying they coexist happily, correct? Python has virtua

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 19, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > There seems to be valid arguments for both sides on the interwebs, but what > do the VFP programmers who use Python advise? Python 3 is the future. Python 2 is the past. So here's the thing: if you're working on an existing app that was writt

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Malcolm Greene
Hi Paul, Definitely Python 3. For all but the most narrow use case you can ignore the FUD about Python 2 vs Python 3. Welcome to the club! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Paul H. Tarver
, Inc. Email: p...@tpcqpc.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 3:52 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x Paul I'm currently learning Python too via the Django f

RE: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Paul H. Tarver
rare occasions I break out FoxLan! :) Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc. Email: p...@tpcqpc.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 3:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Alan Bourke
Paul I'm currently learning Python too via the Django framework. Unless you have a lot of legacy code to maintain or third party libs that are stuck on 2.x then 3 all the way IMO. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, at 08:32 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > I

Re: [NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Ted Roche
How many versions of VFP do you work with? I have a couple of versions installed, in order to support clients who are locked in for some reason or another. Learn, use and master 3, because that's the future. Fall back to 2 if you run into that (rare) app that still requires it. It's okay to keep m

[NF] Python: 2.x vs 3.x

2017-08-19 Thread Paul H. Tarver
I finished the Python course at CodeAcademy per the recommendation of someone on this list and although I still have the final project to do, it occurs to me that I have no clue as to what version of Python I should be trying to work with going forward. There seems to be valid arguments for bo

[NF] Python conference in NY Aug 2017

2017-06-07 Thread Stephen Russell
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[NF] Python now coming into SQL Server 2017

2017-04-27 Thread Stephen Russell
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Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-08 Thread Paul Hill
On 8 November 2015 at 18:36, Bill Arnold wrote: > Hi Andy, > >> I assume by that you mean that it's being sold as a subscription model. The >> pricing page isn't very clear on the difference between 'limited support' >> and 'support' but assuming the highest price applies ($ 1,649/yr) >> http://ww

RE: [NF] Python?

2015-11-08 Thread Bill Arnold
Hi Andy, > but I still don't like their lock-in fee structure. I assume by that you mean that it's being sold as a subscription model. The pricing page isn't very clear on the difference between 'limited support' and 'support' but assuming the highest price applies

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-07 Thread AndyHC
I've been having another play with Python - the eBook "Automate the Boring Stuff with Python" is aimed at non-programmers but is an easy in to the language.. also AVFP (https://activevfp.codeplex.com/) - easy to set up a cheap test site with Godaddy or Arvixe. _

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-07 Thread AndyHC
On 08/11/2015 07:32, Bill Arnold wrote: An Alaska Software link to a related topic is http://www.alaska-software.com/landing/foxpro/start.cxp I've looked at xbase+ a few times over the years (at least Alaska software aren't fly-by-night) but I still don't like their lock-in fee structur

RE: [NF] Python?

2015-11-07 Thread Bill Arnold
Hi Lew, Don't know if you're intending to convert existing and significant VFP applications, but if so, maybe consider VFP compatible software so the learning curve and conversions wouldn't be so big and expensive. I'm thinking that since VFP10 checks out with Windows 10, VFP apps will continue

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Lew Schwartz wrote: > Basically doing this for myself. I teach/lecture on photography & art from > time to time, so I wrote a desktop app in VFP that helped me with my > presentations. The platform was just my laptop which one way or another > would share a screen or

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Ali Rıza P . Bayrı
Here is the development platform that I have configured : - Windows 10 - Visual Studio 2015 - Python Tools for Visual Studio 2.2 : http://microsoft.github.io/PTVS/ - Python 3.4 - Django 1.8 2015-11-06 19:23 GMT+03:00 Malcolm Greene : > PyCharm has every IDE feature imaginable. There's a free

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Malcolm Greene
PyCharm has every IDE feature imaginable. There's a free community edition. Worth checking out. Windows and Mac versions. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of th

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, at 03:56 PM, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote: > Hi Lew : > > Codecademy.com have great interactive courses, including python. Seconded. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscript

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Lew Schwartz
multi language, so only one IDE to learn for > Python, PHP, Perl, Tcl, Ruby, HTML, CSS, Javascript etc. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier > Sent: 06 November 2015 15:12 > To: ProFox

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo
Hi Lew : Codecademy.com have great interactive courses, including python. Take a look, I'm doing javascript and python. Regards. - El 6/11/2015 3:39 p. m., "Lew Schwartz" escribió: > I've been avoiding this for years, but I'd like to pick up a modern > language. Given my background in the Fox

RE: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
: RE: [NF] Python? Personally I like Komodo as an IDE, it's the nearest I have come to a full VFP like development system with everything you need in one program. lite version is free and multi-platform. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On B

RE: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
ourke Sent: 06 November 2015 15:09 To: profox@leafe.com; profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Python? On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, at 02:38 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: > I've been avoiding this for years, but I'd like to pick up a modern > language. For fun or profit? What sort of application

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
And that's not a criticism of Python BTW. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, at 03:08 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, at 02:38 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: > > I've been avoiding this for years, but I'd like to pick up a modern > > language. > > Fo

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, at 02:38 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote: > I've been avoiding this for years, but I'd like to pick up a modern > language. For fun or profit? What sort of applications do you see yourself developing? Your IDE will probably be an excellent general-purpose text editor of some descripti

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
If you haven't already, read the front page at https://www.python.org/ it has pointers to downloads, tools, beginner's guides, documentation and more. And you could join the ProPython list! On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Lew Schwartz wrote: > I've been avoiding this for years, but I'd like to

Re: [NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
A good idea my be to first decide what type of environment(s) you want the code to operate in. Will your output be for web consumption or are you still a happy local app kind of guy? Maybe you were interested in going for the phone or tablet instead? After you get that knocked out then a languag

[NF] Python?

2015-11-06 Thread Lew Schwartz
I've been avoiding this for years, but I'd like to pick up a modern language. Given my background in the Fox and this group, it looks to me that Python is the way to go. Question is: where do I start? I'll still be pc/Windows 10 only. I'll need the lang, ide & tutorials. -Lew Schwartz --- Stri

[NF] Python E book 11.97 usd

2015-10-28 Thread Stephen Russell
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[NF] Python eBook 50% off

2014-07-09 Thread Stephen Russell
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Re: [NF] Python in a .NET IDE?

2014-04-11 Thread Dave Thayer
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > I'm sure it's very good, but it requires VS 2013 which won't run on XP (I > can;t upgrade because of lack of $$$). > There's versions for VS2012 and VS2010 on the codeplex page: -- Dave T

Re: [NF] Python in a .NET IDE?

2014-04-11 Thread Laurie Alvey
I'm sure it's very good, but it requires VS 2013 which won't run on XP (I can;t upgrade because of lack of $$$). Laurie On 10 April 2014 20:23, Stephen Russell wrote: > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/somasegar/archive/2014/04/10/python-tools-for-visual-studio-2-1-beta.aspx > > For those of you who

Re: [NF] Python in a .NET IDE?

2014-04-11 Thread Malcolm Greene
Lots of Python IDE options for Apple OSX users. I'm currently evaluating PyCharm and am very impressed. PyCharm is made by JetBrains, a vendor offering cross platform IDEs for a variety of languages. They also make ReShaper for .NET. Most of the JetBrain products have 30 day evaluations. Products a

[NF] Python in a .NET IDE?

2014-04-10 Thread Stephen Russell
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/somasegar/archive/2014/04/10/python-tools-for-visual-studio-2-1-beta.aspx For those of you who have not used Visual Studio recently or ever you are missing a truly rich UI. For those who are in the ABMS camp you already have your choice on any editor you want. -- Steph

RE: [NF] Python - was Working with text files larger than 2GB (VFP9SP2)

2013-11-07 Thread John Weller
Thanks Paul - that's just what I need! Regards John John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of > Paul McNett > Sent: 06 November 2013 23:04 > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject

Re: [NF] Python - was Working with text files larger than 2GB (VFP9SP2)

2013-11-06 Thread Paul McNett
On 11/6/13 12:38 PM, John Weller wrote: > 1.If I wrote a small Python program, perhaps to split large files into > manageable chunks, would it be stand-alone or would I need to include > libraries (similar to the VFP libraries)? The Python interpreter would need to be present in some way. Comm

[NF] Python - was Working with text files larger than 2GB (VFP9SP2)

2013-11-06 Thread John Weller
I'm not making a suggestion but asking questions for my own benefit :-) I don't know Python but hope to get a Raspberry Pi for Christmas and get into it that way. I've used an excellent utility called PyCron which uses Python to emulate a cron job which appears to be totally stand-alone. 1.

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 12/09/13 10:40, Richard Kaye escribió: Tell us how you really feel, Ricardo... ;-) LOL Well, you know me. I'm a born diplomat. ;-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT

RE: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-12 Thread Richard Kaye
Tell us how you really feel, Ricardo... ;-) -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:01 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio Well IMO these

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-12 Thread Metha Depto. de Desenvolvimento de Sistemas
LOL Em 12/09/2013 09:01, "Ricardo Aráoz" escreveu: > El 11/09/13 09:15, Ted Roche escribió: > >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: >> >> Because no one outside of the VS world would have any idea what you are >>> talking about. >>> >> >> REPL is a Computer Science thing. I've hea

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 11/09/13 09:15, Ted Roche escribió: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: Because no one outside of the VS world would have any idea what you are talking about. REPL is a Computer Science thing. I've heard of it due to the large concentration of MIT grads around here, and their

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-12 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, at 08:23 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > I had forgotten how annoying the intellisense popups were until I watched > that video. I hope there is a setting to only show them when you ask, > e.g., hit the tab key. > Yes, you can fiddle with Intellisense on a per-language basis, inclu

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > > I got as far as "WTF WITH THE CAPITALIZED MENU NAMES?" > I laughed at that, too. I hadn't seen the new "flat" theme, nor the caps. I thought, with a little more work, they could make it as attractive as my vim session is. -- Ted Roche Ted

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-11 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/10/13 4:39 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > I got as far as when he demonstrated the interactive interpreter and started > calling it "The REPL". That was so lame that I couldn't continue. ;-) I got as far as "WTF WITH THE CAPITALIZED MENU NAMES?" Paul ___

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > I laughed at that, too. I hadn't seen the new "flat" theme, nor the caps. I > thought, with a little more work, they could make it as attractive as my > vim session is. Ha! Nothing beats my vim session! I had forgotten how annoying the intellisens

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > Because no one outside of the VS world would have any idea what you are > talking about. REPL is a Computer Science thing. I've heard of it due to the large concentration of MIT grads around here, and their affection for LISP. Googling "repl

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-11 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, at 02:26 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > Because no one outside of the VS world would have any idea what you are > talking about. I don't think many INSIDE it would know either. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintena

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > Why? REPL is a thing... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read%E2%80%93eval%E2%80%93print_loop Because no one outside of the VS world would have any idea what you are talking about. I've been doing Python since 2000, and have never once heard it r

[NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-10 Thread Stephen Russell
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Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Stephen Russell > wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNNAOypc6Ek > > I got as far as when he demonstrated the interactive interpreter and > started calling it "The REPL". That was so lame that I couldn't con

Re: [NF] Python tools for Visual Studio

2013-09-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNNAOypc6Ek I got as far as when he demonstrated the interactive interpreter and started calling it "The REPL". That was so lame that I couldn't continue. ;-) BTW, I've met the narrator, Dino, at several PyCo

Re: [NF] Python 3.3.0 beta 2

2012-08-12 Thread Alan Bourke
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012, at 04:55 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > * A C implementation of the "decimal" module, with up to 80x speedup >for decimal-heavy applications Niiice. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to:

[NF] Python 3.3.0 beta 2

2012-08-12 Thread Malcolm Greene
For those of you who remember the excitement that surrounded past VFP version upgrade announcements ... here's a preview of what's happening in the world of Python. Malcolm Subject: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 beta 2 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:01:36 +0200 On behalf of the Python development team, I'

[NF] Python: looks great, stays wet longer

2008-06-08 Thread Ed Leafe
http://www.fluidinfo.com/terry/2008/06/08/python-looks-great-stays-wet-longer/ ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/6824pn ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sometimes I think of it like pottery. You grab a lump of wet clay and slap it down on the wheel. Then you try

[NF] Python Meetup in Phoenix

2008-02-12 Thread Jeff Johnson
You are invited to The Phoenix Python Meetup Group. February 26th at 6:30 PM is the meetup in Downtown Phoenix. To find out more and join, click here: http://python.me

Re: [NF] Python Meetup in Phoenix

2008-01-29 Thread Jeff Johnson
Lot of excitement around here this week. Phoenix Open, Superbowl and a Python User Group Meeting! Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Stephen Russell wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 7:55 AM, Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There is a

Re: [NF] Python Meetup in Phoenix

2008-01-29 Thread Stephen Russell
On Jan 29, 2008 7:55 AM, Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a Python meetup in Phoenix tonight at 6:30. It is near the > Biltmore Plaza at 26th Street and Camelback. If you are interested > please ask for location information. > > http://python.meetup.com/184/calendar/6967211/?a=

[NF] Python Meetup in Phoenix

2008-01-29 Thread Jeff Johnson
There is a Python meetup in Phoenix tonight at 6:30. It is near the Biltmore Plaza at 26th Street and Camelback. If you are interested please ask for location information. http://python.meetup.com/184/calendar/6967211/?a=ce1o_grp -- Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo source code and data protection

2008-01-14 Thread Alan Bourke
Ed Leafe wrote: > >> Are there py* package encryption/protection tools similar to Refox, >> Armadillo, or Molebox? >> I would guess it is similar to any bytecode language like C# or Java, in other words very easy to regenerate readable source.

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo support for VFP-like text/textmerge capabilities

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > Does Python/Dabo support VFP-like text/endtext or textmerge > capabilities? Yes and no. Yes, you can do just about anything that VFP can do; no, it doesn't work at all like VFP does. Basically, you create a StringIO instance and red

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo GUI support for HTML and RTF display/edit controls

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2008, at 6:18 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > How well does Python/Dabo have GUI controls that support the display > and/or editing of of rich content in an HTML or RTF format? > > How portable are these controls? We have a class named 'dHtmlBox' that can take text with basic HTML

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo source code and data protection

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:20 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > What tools/techniques are available for protecting Python/Dabo source > code and data? Or are these concepts 'old-school' thinking in the > brave > new world of open source based development? It's largely not used or needed. > Are th

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Vince Teachout
Paul McNett wrote: > Black box is there to see output while developing. I don't let my > clients see any of that. > I suspected as much. Thanks. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/pro

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Paul McNett
Vince Teachout wrote: > Since this seems to be a Python day, I'd like to ask a stupid-noobie > question that I've been wondering about for a long time. I even tried > googling it once, but probably entered the wrong terms and got > umpty-billion unhelpful articles. > > In my admittedly extrem

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo Unicode and locale support

2008-01-14 Thread Paul McNett
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Ed/Paul, > > I understand that Python is Unicode compatible and thus, by default, so > is Dabo. Are these statements true? Yes. > Are there Unicode issues with Python/Dabo that VFP developers new to > these tools need to be aware of? Not that I can think of. > How

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo OS specific development issues (VFP's sys() functions)

2008-01-14 Thread Paul McNett
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Ed/Paul, > > If one is developing Python/Dabo applications, how do you program for OS > specific issues like: > > - screen size and color resolution > - desktop space available for application (single/multi-monitor setups) > - system metrics (default colors, sounds, fonts

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo application packaging options

2008-01-14 Thread Paul McNett
Malcolm Greene wrote: > Can your packaging of an application include external components like a > MySQL or SQLite engine or must these be separate installs? It can include external components, and usually does. > Do the py* packagers support the ability to create multiple 'library > files' (for

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Jeff Johnson
py2exe is only a packager that allows you to use Python in an exe kind of like a FoxPro exe. You can use .py scripts with the Python libraries just like you can run .prgs with the VFP runtimes. Take a look at pythonw.exe for the command window problem: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/python/excerpt

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Vince Teachout
Steve Ellenoff wrote: > I'm guessing that getting rid of that non-gui window is automatic > during the py2exe process? Is that the right? > Nope. Hence my concern. Unless I'm just using a really old Py2exe. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Steve Ellenoff
I'm guessing that getting rid of that non-gui window is automatic during the py2exe process? Is that the right? At 11:21 AM 1/14/2008, you wrote: >Yep. You can make your Python apps look just like a VFP app on Windows. > But like anything new, you need to walk before you run. Check out the >D

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Vince Teachout
Jeff Johnson wrote: > Yep. You can make your Python apps look just like a VFP app on Windows. > But like anything new, you need to walk before you run. Check out the > Dabo Wiki and look at some of the web casts. Beautiful! I figured people wouldn't put up with that, and there must be a wa

Re: [NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Jeff Johnson
Yep. You can make your Python apps look just like a VFP app on Windows. But like anything new, you need to walk before you run. Check out the Dabo Wiki and look at some of the web casts. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Vince Teachout wrote: > S

[NF] Python black box?

2008-01-14 Thread Vince Teachout
Since this seems to be a Python day, I'd like to ask a stupid-noobie question that I've been wondering about for a long time. I even tried googling it once, but probably entered the wrong terms and got umpty-billion unhelpful articles. In my admittedly extremely limited dealings with Python, e

RE: [NF] Python/Dabo SQLite compared to VFP client side datacapabilities

2008-01-14 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, January 14, 2008 10:15 AM Jean Laeremans wrote: >Spoilsport. I just started to enjoy the "ask uncle Ed" sessions. At least, he was not answering his own questions like others have done. If anyone is looking for any information about Dabo I do not think they would even look in the ProF

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo SQLite compared to VFP client side data capabilities

2008-01-14 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Jan 14, 2008 4:11 PM, David Crooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a Dabo list that probably would be a better place for these > questions. I am interested the answers but I think they would be better > utilized in the Dabo list area. > > David L. Crooks Spoilsport. I just started to enj

RE: [NF] Python/Dabo SQLite compared to VFP client side data capabilities

2008-01-14 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, January 14, 2008 10:07 AM Malcolm Greene wrote: >Ed, >> SQLite is part of Python now, so that's included if Python is. >Are SQLite or your Dabo wrappers for SQLite functional equivalents to most of VFP's client side data capabilities? >What file format is SQLite data stored in (singl

[NF] Python/Dabo SQLite compared to VFP client side data capabilities

2008-01-14 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ed, > SQLite is part of Python now, so that's included if Python is. Are SQLite or your Dabo wrappers for SQLite functional equivalents to most of VFP's client side data capabilities? What file format is SQLite data stored in (single or multiple files)? How do SQLite and VFP client side compare

RE: [NF] Python/Dabo OS specific development issues (VFP's sys()functions)

2008-01-14 Thread Dave Crozier
macaddr = ''.join([macaddr, hex(intval).replace(replacestr, '')]) return macaddr.upper() if __name__ == '__main__': print 'Your mac address is %s' % get_macaddress('localhost') # #End of Code ###### -Original Message-

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo OS specific development issues (VFP's sys() functions)

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:34 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > If one is developing Python/Dabo applications, how do you program > for OS > specific issues like: > > - screen size and color resolution Native functions in wxPython. Use sizers to make display changes irrelevant. > - desktop spac

Re: [NF] Python/Dabo application packaging options

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2008, at 3:23 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > Do the py* packagers support the ability to create multiple 'library > files' (for lack of a better term?) that can be updated independent of > the main distribution vs. having to re-distribute a full build with > every new release? For example,

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