[RBW] Re: MISC items for sale. Bar end shifters, MUSA, Nitto

2011-01-22 Thread jinxed
How much would a new pair of knickers have to be? On Jan 20, 4:40 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: Keep this price drop thing going on and I'll figure out if I'm a  23 percenter. I've never in all my years of cycling had a pair, but I'll try anything for the right price. On Jan 20,

[RBW] Re: Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group?

2011-01-22 Thread Earl Grey
Yep, they are all back, at least for me. Gernot On Jan 22, 2:48 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I see that, Gernot.  For what it's worth, my 5 photos are among those that are not seen.  But, if you click on my name among the top posters then you can see my 5 photos.  I think we can

[RBW] Re: Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group?

2011-01-22 Thread EricP
They are for me, also. (Joined the group early on and added one photo. So far.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 22, 6:26 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, they are all back, at least for me. Gernot On Jan 22, 2:48 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I see that, Gernot.  

[RBW] Legolas on Flickr

2011-01-22 Thread Marty
Another group springs to life, capturing the elusive Legolas. There must be more photos out there! http://www.flickr.com/groups/legolas/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: (Dumb) Mark's Rack Installation Question

2011-01-22 Thread Earl Grey
Most of the bolts on bikes are M5. A few are M6, such as stem bolts on classic stems, and the bolt that goes through the fork crown to attach a fender. I don't think M4s are typically used. I find useful lengths to be 10, 12, 15, 20 and 25mm. Make sure you get stainless. Gernot On Jan 21, 6:39 

Re: [RBW] Re: (Dumb) Mark's Rack Installation Question

2011-01-22 Thread MSmith
Minh wrote: on a related note, does anyone have a reasonable source to pick up the allen bolts that are generally useful for bikes? To which I reply: Check out http://www.biketoolsetc.com They have stainless metric socket head bolts for a really nice price. These are the ones you'll use

[RBW] Re: Question on Bar Ends

2011-01-22 Thread Mike Irwin
Pretty cool. I've been thinking about swapping the whole stem/ Albatross bars/thumbies/shifters from my older city bike to the Hillborne. Then, I think I'm going to build the city bike back up as a racer as one of my friends has finally talked me into joining him and his girlfriend as the third

[RBW] Re: 68cm Rambouillet for sale Do I Detect the Odor of a Rat?

2011-01-22 Thread sbsmith
All- Since my charachter has been impunged I feel it necessary to respond. I listed my Rambouillet after seeing Cycletex's solicitation of interest in purchasing a 68cm Ram. Untill a few days ago, I didn't know RBW Owners Bunch existed. I only discovered RBWOB after perusing the Riv website

[RBW] Smaller frame size next time?

2011-01-22 Thread JimP
I have a Sma Hillborne which I absolutely Love. It is the best bicycle I have ever owned. Orange frame, Cream Delta Cruisers and Honjo hammered fenders. A Magnificent and Functional work of Art. I can't help but think about another Rivendell at some point, perhaps an A. Homer Hilson or

Re: [RBW] Re: Oh snap! Now you can buy the ultimate crankset!

2011-01-22 Thread omnigrid
five hundred bucks really isnt all that much money among modern cranks. an equivalent dura ace or record would be 500 bucks or more. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: Nice, but $529 is STEEP. I think I'd rather see something like the Mighty Tour

[RBW] Re: 68cm Rambouillet for sale Do I Detect the Odor of a Rat?

2011-01-22 Thread Cycletex
I apologize if I jumped to any conclusions. After an email exchange with another interested party we both decided there was something not quite right with this sale. The lack of timely response, lack of pictures, the timing after I expressed a desire to buy one, pressure to close quickly... Also

[RBW] Re: Updated FS: 3TTT, Sugino, SKF, Quickbeam

2011-01-22 Thread Clayton Scott
170mm On Friday, January 21, 2011, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what's the arm length on the Alpina's? On Jan 20, 1:56 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just a few things unclaimed: - 3ttt ProChrome stem made from columbus tubing

[RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread CycloFiend
Hey all - As I mentioned in the State of the List Report, I have a work project which is taking a significant amount of time and energy right now. Thought I've been able to track and comment on a few posts as a list member, I really hadn't been going through all the postings with my admin hat

Re: [RBW] Smaller frame size next time?

2011-01-22 Thread David Faller
If the bike feels great and fits right when you're riding it, THAT'S what matters. I truly need a 57 cm frame, but my Ram is a 58. A 56 would have been a case of me falling into my old habits of buying too small; and the 58 fits great when I ride. Stick with Grant's standover formula and

[RBW] Master List List of Rivendell Groups

2011-01-22 Thread Marty
Impressive number of models here! Not all have content yet, but that will soon change. For many of us, it's helpful to take a look at all the permutations of a single model in one place. They all deserve a special group. I don't think I've missed any, but I'm sure you'll respond if I have. Whoever

[RBW] Re: Master List of Flickr Groups

2011-01-22 Thread Marty
Wrong subject line the first time - I was editing it and it magically was sent! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Smaller frame size next time?

2011-01-22 Thread charlie
If you can get the saddle high enough and the bars where you want them you are good. A thicker pair of shoes will help. Now if you are a off road type then you might think about more stand over. For a smooth road rider I've never found it to be a problem. I have two bikes that fit similar. On

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread robert zeidler
He's right, but constant talk about Riv stuff is... a bit boring. Kind of like discussing Led Zeppelin-there's only some many ways to beat the limited number of songs to death, until you've said all there is to say-several times. My .02 RGZ On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM, CycloFiend

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 1:02 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: He's right, but constant talk about Riv stuff is... a bit boring. This is why we can join other groups to discuss politics, economic policy and environmental policy. The riv group does not have to be the only place

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread cyclotourist
But there is such a place you can go to talk about everything OT, including Led Zeppelin: http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-bob On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:02 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.comwrote: He's right, but constant talk about Riv stuff is... a bit boring.

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread James Warren
So if there's not much interesting to talk about on a given day (stuff that would signal as opposed to noise), then there should be fewer total posts that day. That's a good thing, because the signal-to-noise ratio stays high. On Jan 22, 2011, at 10:02 AM, robert zeidler wrote: He's right,

[RBW] Re: Smaller frame size next time?

2011-01-22 Thread james
Also, Remember that the Hillborne has a rising geometry, and is thus a 56 at the seatpost but closer to a 59 in the center where you stand over it... so as for a hilsen you may want a 58... james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Do we need a Hillborne Flickr group?

2011-01-22 Thread Way Rebb
Nice to see a Hillborne group. I added a few photos. Some didn't show up but those were the first few photos I uploaded to Flickr and don't seem to show up anywhere except my own little space. Maybe I have to re-upload those. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread JimD
Hey, I'm old. I ride a lugged steel Rivendell bike. All my spandex clad, carbon riding, narrow tire bike friends already know I'm boring. -JimD and yup, when I want to get my heart rate up, I take a look at the i- bob list. On Jan 22, 2011, at 10:02 AM Jan 22, 2011, robert zeidler

[RBW] Re: Smaller frame size next time?

2011-01-22 Thread George Schick
Every time this topic of proper frame size comes up it takes me back to the early 70's when I was just beginning to get serious about riding. I am 5' 9, but have a SOH of about 30.5 (in theory, I should either be about 6' tall, given the length of my torso; or maybe 5' 6 or 7, given the leg

[RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-22 Thread Way Rebb
Wow this thread has jumped all over the place but back to cars and bikes... What I find irritating are the too polite motorists. They will wave me through a 4 way stop when it is their turn to go. They will stop and wave me across three other lanes of busy traffic as if everyone will stop

[RBW] Re: Do Employers Encourage Bike Commuting? (Was Rivbike Editorial)

2011-01-22 Thread RoadieRyan
Agree with JimD, the cyclo-commute is not convenient but I try not to let that stop me and frankly things are pretty well set up for me to ride: -I am fortunate to live fairly close to where I work 7miles, -have shower/locker facilities available to me in my office building -a safe place to lock

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread Tim McNamara
But it is a list about Riv stuff and nothing but Riv stuff (and how we use it, which is- to me- often the more interesting discussion). We all have other resources for talking about other stuff- back channel discussions if we really want to talk to particular list members about other non-Riv

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread zeidler . robert
Ditto. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:06:11 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Tone,

[RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18

2011-01-22 Thread Way Rebb
Some of us use bikes as a primary means of transportation. Transportation involved going to places you may not really want to get to (jury duty, dentist appointments, etc) with varying levels of being late.I don't believe transportation is chosen on the fun factor, cars are just the default.

[RBW] Great Ride Today

2011-01-22 Thread Bruce
1st metric of the new year on my '95 Road Standard. 28F and flags straight out from their poles in the wind, but by George, the bike got it done and carried me along with it! A steel Bilenky, a Ritchey Breakaway (Ti-C) and a Madone kept us in good company . Pari-Moto tires (this bike is

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread David Faller
Ditto here, too. Just because Grant may have mentioned something doesn't green light it for being on topic. I'd hate for this forum to turn into The Beeswax Group... On 1/22/2011 12:06 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: But it is a list about Riv stuff and nothing but Riv stuff (and how we use it,

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rivendell Quickbeam

2011-01-22 Thread Clayton Scott
Hi Mike, I have a 60cm (center to center, which Rivendell calls a 62cm) silver quickbeam, frame, fork, King Headset, and rack for sale. $950 plus shipping. Frame is in excellent shape, all framesaverd, and ready to be built up. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks, Clayton On Thu,

[RBW] Re: Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread Beth H
Touche. On Jan 22, 10:24 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: But there is such a place you can go to talk about everything OT, including Led Zeppelin: http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread Ken Freeman
iBob is broader in scope, to be sure, but not intended to be a place for stream of consciousness or purely political rants, either. I and others here are quite active there, and can say there is awareness of a focus there, as well. Not as sharply focused, but not open ended, either. I'd

[RBW] Bombadil report after loading it up for touring

2011-01-22 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Ok so I'm new to the Rvendell stuff and so I'm not tired of talking about it. Or lookng at it or riding it. To that end for those of you newer here and still exploring some of the joys of these bikes let me share my joy. I've done all my touring on a 2001 Giant OCR Tour bike and always

[RBW] Winter tinkering

2011-01-22 Thread EricP
Will try to keep this on-group topic. While doing some indoor work on my LHT, decided it was as good a time as any to swap cranksets with the Sam Hillborne, which was already inside. For a while, have had terrible luck with cranks and/or bottom brackets on the SH. Have had three different

Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread cyclotourist
I do lurve me some ibob conversation, but here's the way they go... don't deny it: Titanium vs. steel -- U.S. vs. off-shore production-- Litespeed bikes -- Tennessee -- Bluegrass -- Union Station -- Allison Kraus -- Robert Plant -- Led Zeppelin -- Noble Canyon Stairway to Heaven Trail -- hard

[RBW] Re: Bombadil report after loading it up for touring

2011-01-22 Thread Pondero
Welcome to the way of more pleasant cycling. I don't ever get tired with it either. Keep the ride reports coming. On Jan 22, 5:41 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so I'm new to the Rvendell stuff and so I'm not tired of talking about it.  Or lookng at it or riding it.  To that

[RBW] Re: Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread Mike
I never tire of ride reports with pictures. It's probably my favorite aspect of this list. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Bombadil report after loading it up for touring

2011-01-22 Thread Mike
Welcome to the way of more pleasant cycling. I don't ever get tired with it either.  Keep the ride reports coming. Well put and my sentiments exactly. Glad you're enjoying the bike Kelly. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Bombadil report after loading it up for touring

2011-01-22 Thread Mark
I am also new to the Rivendell approach to cycling and enjoy reading about your rides and your new bikes. Wow, a Hilsen and a Bombadil perfect combination. Loved the pics of your AHH in Queeny Park, it looks like a

[RBW] Photos From Today's Ride - 22 jan 2911

2011-01-22 Thread JimD
For those who are experiencing winter these will hopefully inspire folks to hang on for spring. It was very spring like today in Northern Calif. I headed up to the end of the road in Stevens Canyon. Also dropped by to visit the Quail. Photos are at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/

[RBW] Re: Winter tinkering

2011-01-22 Thread Angus
Eric, I have (hopefully past tense had) a loosening bottom bracket on the Atlantis. I am still waiting for the rim to build a two-speed Sturmey Archer kick-shift) rear wheel for the Quickbeam. The Rambouillet makes too much noise with the current drive train set- up. Need to check the

[RBW] Re: Smaller frame size next time?

2011-01-22 Thread Angus
I have zero (technically negative) crotch clearance to the top tube on three Rivendells (all 64s)...I like them the best. I've had a 59.5cm Rivendell Road Standard and a 57cm Rivendell cyclocross bike that were great, but I sold them once I started riding the larger frames. Angus On Jan 22,

[RBW] Re: Tone, OT and Stuff Like That

2011-01-22 Thread rob markwardt
Thank you. When in doubt post pictures of your bike or your rides. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/4925175273_bfa14f939d_z.jpg And please don't discuss Led Zepplin on the boblistKraftwerk is ok though...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPowpIRVOuYfeature=related On Jan 22, 6:06 pm, Mike

[RBW] Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-22 Thread Bob
How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry from the Waterford edition? Exclude differences in braze-ons, kickstand plate and range of sizes. In other words, what, if anything, was gained or lost by the change in builder? -- You received this message because you are