mental ray volume shaders were never exposed inside
XSIs render tree?
Sven
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
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now how the renderer worked. But once you did, you had a lot
> of power at your finger tips.
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> Matt
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> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:01:52 +0100
> From: Olivier Jeannel
> Subject: Re: end of another era
> To: Anto Matkovic , "Official Softimage Users
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Subject: Re: end of another era
There is o
It's been easy for sometime to build your own toon shader with no coding,
just basic math and nodes in most any modern 3D cg app, so I imagine the sw
app companies saw little point in adding more.
NPR is usually unique look dev for jobs, so same reason, I doubt the sw app
companies saw a reason to
ated, like in last version? If no, how much
you're giving, 2x, 6x, five percent... How much for shader writer?
From: Matt Lind
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: end of another era
A lot of people don't kno
and sequences finished on the
> renderfarm in only a few minutes.
>
> I could go on with plenty more examples, but the point is (in my
> experience)
> most things people have griped about with mental ray are due to their own
> lack of understanding, not the tech
e point is (in my experience)
most things people have griped about with mental ray are due to their own
lack of understanding, not the technology.
Matt
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:12:20 +0100
From: Mirko Jankovic
Subject: Re: end of another era
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing Li
haders in mental ray. It was also not documented very
>>> well in the advanced areas. You had to really figure it out on your own.
>>> While the documentation was accurate, a lot of it didn't make sense until
>>> you already know how the renderer worked. But once you did,
documented very
>> well in the advanced areas. You had to really figure it out on your own.
>> While the documentation was accurate, a lot of it didn't make sense until
>> you already know how the renderer worked. But once you did, you had a lot
>> of power at your
aders in mental ray. It was also not documented very
> well in the advanced areas. You had to really figure it out on your own.
> While the documentation was accurate, a lot of it didn't make sense until
> you already know how the renderer worked. But once you did, you had a lot
>
surfaces. There are also
many undocumented features in the toon shaders inherited from mental ray for
free, such as texturing ink lines.
Matt
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:17:16 +
From: Matt Morris
Subject: Re: end of another era
Still find myself using Mr when a toon shading job co
ready know how the renderer worked. But once you did, you had a lot
of power at your finger tips.
Matt
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:01:52 +0100
From: Olivier Jeannel
Subject: Re: end of another era
To: Anto Matkovic , "Official Softimage Users
MR wasn't heaven, but it's again ano
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> Yup, I know and I use it
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> Yup, I know and I use it a lot. But for rendering volumetrics still it is
> one of the fastest!
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Subject: Re: end of another era
Yup, I know and I use it a lot. But for rendering volumetrics still it is one
of the fastest!
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Not going back from Octane.
From: Mirko Jankovic
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Subject: Re: end of another era
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Subject: RE: end of another era
Really? I would think there is no case that a frame in Arnold tooks this longer
than MR. Given the same techniques were used and you have the same knowledge of
both.
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Subject: Re: end of another era
So sad :(
I've just done a project using this render engine in which each 2k frame with
film production quality took 6 min to be rendered by a single Int
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Subject: end of another era
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Still, it is sad to see such a key component of XSI success die in such a way…
ultimately they never got to modernise it and compete properly (for whatever
reasons) but the truth is that it was critical to XSI’s success.
:-(
jb
> On 20 Nov 2017, at 10:52, Mirko Jankovic wrote:
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> It is not l
It is not like a lot of people are crying for mentalray.. like it was for
XSI
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