Re: vacuum taps (was twin fire tube boilers)

Check with any of the usual Roundhouse dealers (Quisenberry, Texas Roundhouse, etc.) I got mine so long ago, I can't remember from whom I bought it. Note that the threads are different for RH and Accucraft bushes, if that's what youre interested in. -vance- The community dimension is complet

Re: twin fire tube boilers QQQ

Vance, Where can one purchase the vacuum tap valve you describe? Don From: "Vance Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sslivesteam@colegroup.com To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: twin fire tube boilers QQQ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:13:10 -0700 > My friend Te

Re: twin fire tube boilers

I'm sending this response for Dave Hottmann. I forwarded the original question to him and this is his response. Clark Lord, Las Vegas Live Steamers (Gauge One) - Hello Clark, I'm active on the list but I'm not getting any mail. If you want to reply I'm wondering if he has a jet prob

Re: twin fire tube boilers

s Ted...he moved and I haven't seen him in a while. He will pop up again, once he settles in again I expect. - Original Message - From: "Bert & Edmunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:46 PM

Re: twin fire tube boilers

Gary Thank you, did you also know that Regner do a steam heated gas tank?, and I think if my memory serves correct Cheddar also do one. These connected with a Cheddar pressure regulator(nor the usual needle valve) usually solve most burner problems. but not the problem of (this now seems universal

Re: twin fire tube boilers QQQ

> My friend Ted solved cold water bath problems for his > Roundhouse engine tank by making a small line drizzle steam > into the tender to warm it up. I did the same on my Roundhouse. It's easy on those locos because there's a vacuum tap valve you can get, that screws into the water-level drain

twin fire tube boilers

My friend Ted solved cold water bath problems for his Roundhouse engine tank by making a small line drizzle steam into the tender to warm it up. Worked well. Just had to keep the amount of steam down to a tiny bit to keep the butane bath warm enough for the butane to always be warm enough on cold

Re: Re[4]: twin fire tube boilers

day, January 06, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re[4]: twin fire tube boilers > Mike. > > Thank you for your offer. I have talked extensively with Cliff on this > one and as you said he was very helpful, but having just moved to a new > building and his new workshop not yet as he would like

Re[2]: twin fire tube boilers

At 12:35 AM +0100 1/6/05, Bert & Edmunda wrote: I have been able to offer quite a lot of help thanks to this group which is for my money the best thing since tea bags. if i did this for money and if i had a marketing campaign, wouldn't that be a great endorsement quote? ;-) ... \dmc -- ^^

Re[4]: twin fire tube boilers

Mike. Thank you for your offer. I have talked extensively with Cliff on this one and as you said he was very helpful, but having just moved to a new building and his new workshop not yet as he would like it he was not able to confirm that this is a common problem. I suspect that some people may h

Re: Re[2]: twin fire tube boilers

Bert I am not an owner of an Accucraft engine with dual burners. Own a Ruby and a Fort Wilderness. Accucraft's main distribution center is located within a few miles of my work place plus it is a local telephone call. If you can provide more specific information off line to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: twin fire tube boilers

Gary Thank you for the input there is no leakage. It seems to be a problem that has been experienced by more than a couple of people I know here in mid Europe. I was hoping as the main market for U.S. railroad models is obvious the USA to save carrying out all the possibilities in that someone had

Re: twin fire tube boilers

My bet is that the superheater has a leak that is putting out the fire. Steaming & Sparking over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon ~ Gary http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor | At 06:02 PM 1/5/05 +0100, Bert & Edmunda wrote: | >Has anyone an Accucraft

Re: twin fire tube boilers

At 06:02 PM 1/5/05 +0100, Bert & Edmunda wrote: Has anyone an Accucraft C-21 or a K-27 and if so have you had problems with the left fire going out? This is the tube with the superheater running through it. Theoretical this tube should re-ignite due to the Stainless superheater glowing. It does no

twin fire tube boilers

To All Has anyone an Accucraft C-21 or a K-27 and if so have you had problems with the left fire going out? This is the tube with the superheater running through it. Theoretical this tube should re-ignite due to the Stainless superheater glowing. It does not. a number of experiments are in progr

Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

I have modified the tube in my Ruby such that it does not spit out the stack anymore. I shortened and pinched the origional tube then filed a hole just below stack level. This way the spray goes in the smokebox and falls down onto the track but most of the steam still goes out the stack. What

Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

T > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Boilers, Burners etc. > > At 05:57 PM 10/5/03 -0400, you wrote: > >On the other hand, a well designed silver soldered boiler will build up a > >very high pressure (probably more than 1

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

have so much to do with it as does > the relative amount of energy available in the system but then I don't > think I would agree unreservedly that a explosion wasn't possible. Over > the years I've read of many instances where old style water boilers, heavy > riveted st

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

On 6/10/03 6:49 pm, "JR May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was not so much concerned about boiler safety as I was about Ruby spitting > hot water out the stack. We carried 2000 passengers that weekend and I'd > guess half took the shop tour with many taking the time to check out Ruby > pulling a

Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

Message - From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: RE: Re: Boilers, Burners etc. > That's a great point, Steve, > > Thanks for bringing it up

RE: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

That's a great point, Steve, Thanks for bringing it up. It saves a lot of hot water and oil in the eye (and oil and crud on the Missuss's dress!) when firing most butane locos. However, it can't be done where a blower or exhaust nozzzle is required such as a coal or alky fired loco. Interesting

RE: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

age- > From: JR May [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:49 AM > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Subject: Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc. > > A few weeks ago at Pine Creek we had our Railroaders Weekend/Open House > and > I set up some track for

Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

usible plugs in model boilers rely on it to do that. Yes additional action, like dumping a coal fire, will probably be taken but all this happens in an instant and not all model locos have the ability to completely dump the fire on short notice so in model practice the fusible plug, when present, is t

Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

uot;Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc. > I've been following this thread, and I'd like to put my two cents in. I've worked with full sized stationary steam engines, and

Re: Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

From: Harry Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/06 Mon PM 12:20:44 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Boilers, Burners etc. > > At 05:57 PM 10/5/03 -0400, you wrote: > >On the other hand, a well designed silver sold

RE: Boilers, Burners etc.

't think I would agree unreservedly that a explosion wasn't possible. Over the years I've read of many instances where old style water boilers, heavy riveted steel, which operated at 4-5psi, did explode in the fullest sense of the word, some with loss of life, so I couldn't

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

enough BTUs available to the system. If I were to apply a 1" oxy/acetylene rose tip (150,000+BTU/min) to a Ga1 boiler boiler of course I should expect trouble, but in actual typical operation that's not going to occur. The reason for building silver soldered boilers the way they have been, a

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

> I am surprised that Ruby comes with only a safety valve and no steam > gauge. Well, then you think of it in a certain way, it does have a steam gauge. The safety valve is a gauge, in that it tells you if your pressure is above or below a certain point. This is just like on your car (unles

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

At 06:25 AM 10/6/03 -0400, you wrote: >I am surprised that Ruby comes with only a safety valve and no steam gauge. JR, The reason is cost/price. The Ruby was intended to be a "budget" locomotive and an additional safety and gauge would add at 20% to the price. Single safeties are common, a

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

: "Mike Chaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 3:54 AM Subject: Re: Boilers, Burners etc. > Henner suggested:- > > > Let us assume, for some reason the safety valve fails: >

Re: Boilers, Burners etc.

Henner suggested:- > Let us assume, for some reason the safety valve fails: > Any comments ? The answer is make sure it fails "safe". My solution is to fit the safety valve with a test pin (normally known as the valve stem) and lift it to make sure the ball is free whilst raising steam. I also

RE: Boilers, Burners etc.

Of Henner Meinhold Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 2:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Boilers, Burners etc. Hi, here some of my thoughts about boilers, burners and HO Live Steamers #1 Boilers: Having read the thread about the Midwest boiler I would like to present some heretic tho

Boilers, Burners etc.

Hi, here some of my thoughts about boilers, burners and HO Live Steamers #1 Boilers: Having read the thread about the Midwest boiler I would like to present some heretic thoughts: So far I have built three silver soldered vertical copper boilers with nicely flanged plates and pressure tested to

Re: stainless boilers

At 05:14 PM 4/30/02 -0400, you wrote: >Charlie's been designing and building >these things for a while. He laughs at our conversations about silver >brazing of boilers so far be it for me to quiz the use of stainless in his >application. >Jim Despite its apparent adv

Re: stainless boilers

r conversations about silver brazing of boilers so far be it for me to quiz the use of stainless in his application. Jim

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

At 09:55 AM 4/16/02 -0700, you wrote: >By their definition, it would appear that NO conclusions can be drawn as to >actual ID or OD from nominal PIPE sizes. >royce Royce, This is true of steel but copper and steel pipe have two different standards. Copper pipe is _always_ 1/8" over nominal

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

Thanks for the lead Harry. By their definition, it would appear that NO conclusions can be drawn as to actual ID or OD from nominal PIPE sizes. Using their example, 1 1/2" schedule 40 pipe has an OD of 1.90" and an ID of 1.61. Where's the inch and a half? (rhetorical question only). I think I

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

At 07:40 AM 4/16/02 -0700, you wrote: >OH S**T ! Just when I had committed it to memory! >So, what's the rule ? >I LOVE this list ! Why? We keep contradicting ourselves! Go to J. G. Braun is an old line seller of architectural metals such as handrails,

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

Harry Wade wrote: > At 08:18 AM 4/16/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Tubing is measured by the ID; Pipe is measured by the OD, > >Jim > > Jim, > I think you've got it reversed. > Regards, > Harry OH S**T ! Just when I had committed it to memory ! Fortunately, I'll forget the rule by tomorrow and

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

Jim Curry wrote: > Tubing is measured by the ID; > Pipe is measured by the OD, Thanks for your answer, Jim. I think I've got it. (That stupid feeling has left me). But now for the next question : what's the difference between pipe & tube ? royce in SB

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

At 08:18 AM 4/16/02 -0400, you wrote: >Tubing is measured by the ID; Pipe is measured by the OD, >Jim Jim, I think you've got it reversed. Regards, Harry

Re: of boilers and things/nomenclature

Tubing is measured by the ID; Pipe is measured by the OD, so 1-1/2" pipe will always be 1-1/2" OD but will have a smaller passage as the schedule goes up. "Schedule" is the common nomenclature for ordering pipe, i.e.: schedule 40, 80, 120. Tubing is reversed, ID remains constant as wall thicknes

Re: of boilers and things

"Ciambrone, Steve @ OS" wrote: > Mating Plumbing fittings! > > Steve dhh ! I knew that ! feeling stupid royce

Re: of boilers and things

By varying the I.D., the O.D. remains the same and allows all three series of nominal copper pipe (M, L, and DWV) to share the same elbows, tees, reducers, etc. Copper TUBING is another story... Mike

Re: of boilers and things

It's so that the fittings will fit any thickness. Mike Eorgoff - Original Message - From: "Royce Woodbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: Re: of boi

Re: of boilers and things

At 02:02 PM 4/15/02 -0700, you wrote: >So Harry, I can understand why a so-called 1 1/2" tubing would be 1 5/8" OD if >the tubing has a wall thickness of .0625. But are the other wall thicknesses >still 1 5/8" OD, letting the ID vary ? Seems an odd way of doing it. Royce, Yes, it does but th

RE: of boilers and things

Mating Plumbing fittings! Steve > -Original Message- > From: Royce Woodbury [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:02 PM > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Subject: Re: of boilers and things > > So Harry, I can understand why a so

Re: of boilers and things

boiler is usually toast, or at least > toast without a very tedious repair job, so for flues I use the thickest > walled tubes (Type K) because I want them to be as resistant to damage from > the various forces acting upon them as reasonably possible. This would be > especially true of co

Re: of boilers and things

iginal Message - From: "Royce Woodbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: of boilers and things > So here's a question to "pick things up a little". >

Re: of boilers and things

them to be as resistant to damage from the various forces acting upon them as reasonably possible. This would be especially true of coal fired boilers where the flues would be subject to abrasion from brushing. The only drawback to this is that Type K and L tube aren't usually available at l

Re: of boilers and things

things being equal. Cheers, Peter Trounce. - Original Message - From: "Royce Woodbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: of boilers and things > So here'

of boilers and things

So here's a question to "pick things up a little". I have a piece of boiler tubing from a kit 1 1/2" in outside diameter with a wall thickness of about .035". There are those of you out there who probably could say that that is type "M", or something tubing. But as this tubing is provided in a

Re: PM Research boiler/Cheddar boilers

Cheddar will build a boiler to your specs. Price? Check their site as shown below. http://www.modelsteam.co.uk/ Phil > Thanks Steve & Keith for the comments about the PM Research boiler. Keith, > if I may ask: what I'm considering isn't too different from the beautiful > Goldbug you're showin

Re: Electric boilers

Gordon, I am NOT the original requester, but I'd love to have a copy of the drawing! Terry Griner Columbus Ohio USA >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/02/02 02:51AM >>> Flouty, Its been done .commercially..German co in 1980s Ive got a section drawing of a 2-8-2 tanker in HO scale..worked on 18vd

Electric boilers

Flouty, Its been done .commercially..German co in 1980s Ive got a section drawing of a 2-8-2 tanker in HO scale..worked on 18vdc resistance heater in horizontal boiler..can mailk you a drawing copy if you like. Gordon Watson.

Re: Boilers

> This leads me to another thought I had lately, which is that of the > areas of our hobby that present potential problems, it seems to me fueling > and firing activities, and the construction of fueling components, present > a much greater potential for damage and injury tha

Re: Boilers

struction of fueling components, present a much greater potential for damage and injury than do boilers. Cheers, Harry

Ruby Boilers

;ve recently done some work on Ruby boilers and I am impressed with the apparent substantialness of their construction. No doubt a value engineering design decision was made (a wise one) to maintain a substantial safety factor in the boiler since Rubies would clearly be in the hands of many beginners

Re: Boilers

won't forget that part of the steamup process again! =) Trot, the hot-fingered, fox... On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Harry Wade wrote: > At 10:55 AM 8/20/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Now for your next act maybe a display showing the results of destructive > >tests performed on 2" x

Re: Boilers

At 10:55 AM 8/20/01 -0400, you wrote: >Now for your next act maybe a display showing the results of destructive >tests performed on 2" x 8" center flue butane boilers. One that the safety >didn't work, another that the boiler was run dry >Jim Re your secon

Re: Boilers

Bob, The way I discovered my safety being stuck was that I had no condensate "weeping" through the safety as I normally do. A slight tug on the center pin (not the stock safety obviously) set it free with a good blast of steam. (And it looked Cool!, all safety considerations aside.) Now the

Re: Boilers

I recently had trouble with my safety on my Ruby, stuck real good when I wasn't paying attention. I imagine that it got up to a pretty good pressure; but all that happened is the O-ring under the fill cap gave out. Generally speaking, I think that something other than the boiler shell itself

Re: Boilers

ises as the pressure rises. At one atmosphere the boiling point of water is 212 deg F. At 60 psi it's 307 deg F. (153 C.)In an overheated or stuck valve condition in one of our boilers the pressure will reach a point where the burner in incapable of adding enough heat to the system to t

RE: Boilers

Just a question from the side, how would you get enough water into one of our type of boilers, I can see possibly how on a traction engine but not our type, there is no where for the water to lodge! must go ,It's 22.13 here. best regards Geoff Waldorf -Original Message-

Re: Boilers

Harry, What would you predict the results would be if the boiler was very hot, almost dry, and water was introduced? This was the apparent reason for the traction engine failure recently resulting in loss of life. Obviously size is of great importance here. Keep your steam up! Walt & Lunk

RE: Boilers

many (but not all) state boiler codes (laws), most of which are based either entirely or in part upon the A.S.M.E. Standards for Pressure Vessels, contain clauses which exclude boilers below a certain volume or grate area from compliance with state regulation or having to be built to "code" s

Re: Boilers

At 10:55 AM 8/20/01 -0400, you wrote: >Now for your next act maybe a display showing the results of destructive >tests performed on 2" x 8" center flue butane boilers. One that the safety >didn't work, another that the boiler was run dry >Jim Jim, As

RE: Boilers

Dear All, this sort of test has been carried out by Cheddar Models on one of the marine boilers which is about the same volume, all that happened was that the flu tube went phu! & distorted as I understand it, basically no big deal!. In the UK we have to have any boiler with a wor

Re: Boilers

Jim, I like that idea better now. It would certainly show the importance of a properly built, maintained, and operated boiler. Later, Trent Jim Curry wrote: > I didn't mean it as a demo. I suggested he bring the results of the tests > for show and tell.

Re: Boilers

I didn't mean it as a demo. I suggested he bring the results of the tests for show and tell. Jim

Re: Boilers

aybe a display showing the results of destructive > tests performed on 2" x 8" center flue butane boilers. One that the safety > didn't work, another that the boiler was run dry

Re: Boilers

Harry: Now for your next act maybe a display showing the results of destructive tests performed on 2" x 8" center flue butane boilers. One that the safety didn't work, another that the boiler was run dry Jim

Boilers and Diamond Head

At 08:09 AM 8/20/01 -0500, you wrote: >and is there anything I have to get done before I can run? >(Boiler certification, etc.) Hah! Several years ago at DH, in a Q&A period after a boiler seminar, I made the statement that eventually this would become necessary for our own good, and as an

New source of heat for boilers?

Hello Everyone, This is just meant to be humorous. Hope it gives someone a grin. 'Nuf said. My daughter received an, "Easy Bake Oven" from jolly 'ole Saint Nick. She baked her proud daddy (that's me) a cake as payment for helping her place the 100 watt light bulb in the oven so it would work.

Re: Ceramic boilers

Jim, Have you tried using a thinner section of the material? Keep your steam up! Walt

Re: Ceramic boilers

More on ceramic burners... The Wrightscale Porter has a small cylindrical ceramic burner that fits inside its center flue boiler. I looked at it right before I left for work and would estimate it to be about 1/4" in diameter. The center flue it slides into looks to be maybe 1/2 diameter. Length is

Re: Ceramic boilers

some posting here back in Nov.-Dec.) that there's a lot of the ceramic material on the market that's too hard to cut to shape without special tools. My stuff can be carved with any small hobby knife/saw. Due to the thickness I think you'd be hard pressed to fit it into any of the center flue boilers in our scale. Jim Curry

Re: Ceramic boilers

at the end of the gas delivery tube, but that idea did not work in the confined space of our boilers; it caused too much slow down. The best that I found was a straight tube that caused the gas to bounce off the side walls before it went through the ceramic. In the case of my 2" vertical b

Re: Ceramic boilers

In a message dated 7/12/00 8:19:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I do not know where they buy the ceramic, >> They have some blocks for BBQ grills, at Home Depot, but they have a lot more and larger holes, possibly one could plug some of the holes. There are blocks

Re: Ceramic boilers

Vance, They make rectangular burners, the exact measurements I do not have here, but it fits the Reno very nicely. I do not see why one could not be made that would replace the burner in a Ruby. If the bottom were convex it would probably conduct enough gas and the ceramic could be narrow and l

Re: Ceramic boilers

I have little or no knowledge of thermodynamics, etc., I just know it is a heck of a lot better than the three alcohol wicks of the original burner. Keep your steam up! Walt & Mr. Lunk

Re: Ceramic boilers

Walt, did I miscommunicate in my previous note? I think the ceramic burners are the best thing since the invention of fire! As a replacement for an alcohol burner, they're absolutely smashing. But you cannot use them on an engine like a (later production) Roundhouse or a Ruby, since there is

RE: Ceramic boilers

Hi, As an aside does anyone know the amount of energy these different burners produce (say compared to an electrical element of x watts)? Best wishes, Susan.

Re: Ceramic boilers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I do not know what Vance thinks about it, but the Cheddar works great in my > Aster Reno, and also two other Reno's that I know of. Now I need to figure > out how to put one in the Aster Americanized Mogul. That third axle presents > a little problem. That is the exact

Re: Ceramic boilers

Hi, I do not know what Vance thinks about it, but the Cheddar works great in my Aster Reno, and also two other Reno's that I know of. Now I need to figure out how to put one in the Aster Americanized Mogul. That third axle presents a little problem. Keep your steam up! Walt & Mr. Lunk

Re: Ceramic boilers

Cheddar's long skinny ceramic burners to take the place of the alcohol wick tubes. What do you think Vance? Clark VR Bass wrote: > > The ceramic just replaces the poker. There is still a jet and an air mixing > orfice. Obviously, due to their size and shape, they only wor

Re: Ceramic boilers

The ceramic just replaces the poker. There is still a jet and an air mixing orfice. Obviously, due to their size and shape, they only work with pot-boilers or firebox type boilers. Advantages are that they are very fuel-efficient and absolutely silent. -vance-

Ceramic boilers

Hi All I am curious how ceramic fired boilers work ? do they need a jet and air intake like the RUBY or they just a piece of stone with the Butane attached to it Paul

Ceramec boilers

Hi All I am curious how ceramic fired boilers work ? do they need a jet and air intake like the RUBY or they just a piece of stone with the Butane attached to it Paul

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

ikely be late Fall or next Winter before I actually get to work on the boilers that prompted my initial questions. Casey Sterbenz Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

> the clay (oil soak or cat litter) is used as a > heat soak to prevent un-soldering what you have already done. Hmmm. I'm not sure about that one -- I had thought that the cat litter functioned like the firebricks, to keep the heat from radiating off the part of the boiler you're not working

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

Hello Everyone, This is in regard to a previous message where I couldn't think of the mix of gas that we use on our burn table. I looked today and made two discoveries. 1.) The large stainless tanks are oxygen. (duh! you can tell I don't use the burn table much, huh?) 2.) Propylene was the mi

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

Tips from an old weldor. NEVER ever attempt to use a torch on concrete. Concrete will explode and send small pieces in the air and some usually come in contact with body parts causing pain and injury. (I know this from experience) Dry sand, and I emphasize "dry" works well for supporting

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

Trent: You might be remembering MAP gas, a common substitute for acetylene in the building trades. Jim

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

In a message dated 4/30/2000 10:38:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Brownel's (of gunsmithing supplies fame) has a product that is a paste, > specifically designed to be a heat soak called Heat Stop There is a product put out in the jewelry trade known as Ruby Sand. It

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

Hello Everyone, The oil soak is cheaper (around here anyway). > You mean there's something other than cat litter to soak up oil? I think I missed something, but the hearth is used for protecting your work area from the heat and flame and to retain as much heat as possible into the work area, an

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

them in the toolbox with my other valuable and easily stolen tools! On the topic of brazing hearths: often the dissipation of the boiler (esp. large boilers) is too much for your torch -- even a big one. It's often useful to have a helper with another torch (handheld plumber's

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

k with Bob Paule (Sulphur Springs) on your needs. He supports our hobby in any way he can so we should support him anyway we can. Besides, he can probably get it for you without you having to make a dozen phone calls to people who didn't even know that anyone still made boilers. Later, Trent

Re: Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

What about the Butane-Nitrous torches. Are there full size versions of these? My hobby torch is super easy to use and I've soldered 45% silver solder with it without a problem. Trot, amature repair fox... >What a relief to see someone mention oxy-propane. I've been using it for >years, espe

Re: SILVER SOLDERING BOILERS

What a relief to see someone mention oxy-propane. I've been using it for years, especially in the "home" shop. The soot from acetylene is not welcome in the confines of domestic habitation. I happen to be using a Smith's torch, very old but still usable. The oxy-propane is a little more difficu

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