Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary

2019-12-21 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Mateusz Konieczny > 21 Dec 2019, 12:00 by wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org: >> I suggest to keep the road classification consistent at least within >> a country and try to solve the problem of roads in low-zoom maps at >> the rendering level, by modifying the list of displayed road classes >> until a

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary

2019-12-21 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Above it was said that the highway=trunk vs highway=primary > distinction is mostly for routing applications. But allowing a proper > rendering is also a main goal of the road tagging system. > While it's true that road class is useful for routing when there are > two

Re: [Tagging] building typology vs usage

2019-09-13 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Dave F via Tagging [190913 21:37]: > On 13/09/2019 16:14, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: >> That would be kind of redundant, wouldn't it? We already use other tags >> for the current function of a building, > I'm repeating much of my of my previous comment, but no, the schema

Re: [Tagging] building typology vs usage

2019-09-13 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Joseph Eisenberg [190913 16:45]: > I certainly recall reading about this in the wiki, but I agree that in > common use, the building=* tag appears to be used mostly for the > current function, rather than specifying a certain form. That would be kind of redundant, wouldn't it? We already use

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Iago Casabiell [190907 18:29]: > Exactly, so how do we solve this? Very simple: By letting the people tag it that live there and have local knowledge. They know what the place is called locally, and that usually is based on a complex amalgamation of size, population, cultural, economic and

Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

2019-09-07 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Robert Riemann [190907 17:19]: > I crosspost this topic from [OSM-talk-be] for its relevance in other areas of > the card. I suggest in this mail to agree on a tag or create a new tag. > I would like to generate a map of EU buildings in Brussels similar to this > one:

Re: [Tagging] Verifiability wiki page: "Geometry" section added

2019-04-28 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Tobias Knerr [190428 14:31]: > On 28.04.19 13:51, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> "A place=hamlet often lacks verifiable borders. Hamlets in farming areas >> often have scattered houses and farms extending outward for several >> kilometers. In this case the approximate center of the place may be >>

Re: [Tagging] Facts and opinions

2019-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Bryan Housel [190107 16:12]: > And on “the wiki”, I have basically given up on the OSM wiki [..]. > If something is “not documented on the wiki” that means nothing because the > wiki is not documentation. That sounds kind of weird, because the Wiki basically only exists to be used for

Re: [Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

2018-12-09 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Eugene Podshivalov [181209 12:34]: > вс, 9 дек. 2018 г. в 14:10, Marc Gemis : >> We have tags for that (waterway=stream, ditch, ... / amenity=school, >> college, university, kindergarten), I don't understand why we should >> change the usage of name for that. > How would you map American

Re: [Tagging] iD Editor - unclear translations ( QA ) - 2018Oct

2018-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Imre Samu [181006 12:43]: > the google sheet is not perfect > better link for view: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DNNuPjjnp6oOXLS2Wtrn__NdCtFN7wy7Lvdm7K1bES0/edit?usp=sharing thanks for sharing this. This does highlight not only translation problems IMHO. While there are some

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

2018-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Joseph Eisenberg [180927 13:10]: > Re: do “the current > proposals would mean that any POI (not referring to a government > building) in Brussels needs to be retagged to name:XX or add > default:language:XX (?) > There are no mandatory tags in OSM, nothing needs to be retagged. But there

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

2018-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Christoph Hormann [180926 20:43]: > On Wednesday 26 September 2018, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: >> it appears to me that before discussing possible solutions we should >> better agree on what the problem is. So far I see several related but >> different problems mixed into

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

2018-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Christoph Hormann [180926 17:53]: > On Wednesday 26 September 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> On 26.09.2018 16:14, Christoph Hormann wrote: >>> Also in Germany we have features with no German name (most notably >>> probably in regions with significant minority languages but also >>> for example

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-20 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Summary first: This looks very good to me, and I think it is in line with the discussion here in the last few days. I support this. * Kevin Kenny [170920 20:39]: > The last few messages in this thread seem to have quieted much of the > discussion. Let me summarize

Re: [Tagging] siphon underpass

2017-06-08 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Volker Schmidt [170608 15:40]: > I am looking into how to tag a frequent feature in my area, i.e. a siphon > underpass, known in Italian as "botte a sifone" or "botte sifone" and in > French as "pont siphon". This is a non.connecting waterway crossing where > the lower

Re: [Tagging] Quonset hut

2017-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Michał Brzozowski [170413 16:41]: > I don't see how going from "typology" you conclude it's strictly about > form. Typology is about types, not saying with respect to what. > When you look at top building values in Taginfo, it's clear to me > these state purpose (house,

Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

2017-04-12 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Volker Schmidt [170412 07:54]: > Any active passenger railway is, among other usages, for tourism. So > usage=tourism seems to be redundant. I think usage=tourism is used for railways that are used only for tourism like rail excursions, dinner trains etc. Wolfgang (lyx@osm)

Re: [Tagging] Railway: Preserved or historic or railway:preserved?

2017-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, I'm not a railway expert, but like to comment anyway. * Dave F [170411 23:41]: > I've a length of railway track that runs along part of a disused line. > It's not connected to the current network & run purely for tourism. Well, the track IS operated, so the

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Shawn K. Quinn [170312 23:51]: > On 03/12/2017 04:42 PM, Tristan Anderson wrote: >> What is the most appropriate landuse tag for vacant lots in urban areas? >> That is, land that was previously occupied by a house or other building >> that has been demolished, no trace of

Re: [Tagging] Mapping time zones as geometries (relations)

2017-03-07 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Colin Smale [170307 09:04]: > [..] > It is possible to have enclaves/exclaves for a territory which differs > from the surrounding territory. Taking the US as an example, if we put a > timezone tag on a State, there may need to be an overriding tag on a > County or

Re: [Tagging] How to tag beginning of a river

2017-02-25 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Martin Koppenhoefer [170225 14:23]: >> On 25 Feb 2017, at 12:16, Dave F wrote: >> Won't the first node of the named way that's most upstream indicate its >> start point by default? >> What advantages will adding a specific 'it starts

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-19 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* John Willis [170219 09:53]: >> On Feb 19, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> +1 >> Regardless of the "intent" of OSM, this level of tagging does seem excessive >> IMO. I've been following the thread and am amazed that this much attention >> can

Re: [Tagging] knotted willows

2017-02-11 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * joost schouppe [170211 09:43]: > One of the defining small landscape elements in Flanders (and probably many > rural areas in Europe) is the "knotted willow". I'm not sure if this is the > right term in English, in Dutch "knotwilg" really is a thing. > How would

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-08 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Marc Zoutendijk [170108 21:02]: >> Op 8 jan. 2017, om 20:20 heeft Tod Fitch het volgende >> geschreven: >> Based on usage in the United States, it sure sounds like leisure=park is the >> tag to use for what you are describing. I see nothing in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mountaineer's mailbox

2016-09-06 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Kevin Kenny [160906 20:38]: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:20 PM, ksg wrote: >> The tag summit:register=* is not yet defined in the wiki, but is >> widespread used in the Alps of Europe with > 600 instances. >>

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Mike N [160120 21:47]: > On 1/20/2016 3:39 PM, Dominic Coletti wrote: >> I see 808,000 uses of name_1 and 65,000 of name_2. > Many of these are from the US TIGER import, and must not be > automatically removed. They would go into alt_name , etc based on local > knowledge.

Re: [Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-09 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@gmail.com> [160109 13:12]: > On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:50:37 +0100 > Wolfgang Zenker <wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org> wrote: >> * Tod Fitch <t...@fitchdesign.com> [160107 23:35]: >>> My parents house is in a pretty rural part of Arizon

Re: [Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-08 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Tod Fitch [160107 23:35]: > My parents house is in a pretty rural part of Arizona and distinguishing > between tracks and driveways or even residential roads can be difficult > there. So my initial instinct was to say leave the ways in that part of > Colorado as tracks

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Thorsten Alge li...@thorsten-alge.de [150525 15:24]: Having the wikidata-tag enables an application to select the wikipedia-article in the language of the users choice or to easily load additional information from wikidata like a cities crest for displaying. The advantage would be that

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
I have placed a request to stop these edits on the users talk page and warned him that I will ban him if this kind of working against the community continues. Please let me know if the problem continues, as I don't watch the tagging list permanently. Wolfgang * Martin Vonwald

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

2015-01-14 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com [150114 15:45]: waterway=wadi is used (18 180 times) and has some support (for example JOSM and default map style). During implementing rendering of intermittent=yes I discovered major problem with this tag - the same waterway=wadi may be used for

Re: [Tagging] Dispute with user over changing wiki page

2014-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com [14 19:20]: I thought I just wait some days for other to reply but unfortunately no more then yours. The question we still have is : What can we do? I suppose the DWG will only block when harm is done to the OSM database and not on any wiki pages. Anyone

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of topographic areas with a name

2013-08-17 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi, * fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com [130817 17:13]: On 16.08.2013 19:05, Masi Master wrote: Hmm, I'm not sure that boundary is the right tag. Isn't it a border, and not an area? Boundaries describe an area but you are right that they are not really boundaries, especially if the border

Re: [Tagging] pastry and confectionery

2013-06-07 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Murry McEntire murry.mcent...@gmail.com [130607 20:15]: [..] A summary as I understand it: We currently have English labels and definitions used for tags for bakery and confectionery that have language translation mismatches, especially based on common usage of the words. English