Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

Hi, maps.me took approach similar to Nominatim's: each map region has "default language" in metadata, and in case the name: is needed but is missing, just name tag is taken. Similar approach was used when making a map for Wargaming's World of Tanks, looking at the country's iso code. A list used

Re: [OSM-talk] New wave of Pokémon Go mappers – check the parks

25. Apr 2018 06:17 by roland.olbri...@gmx.de : > Thus, I suggest the query > here is overpass link with it: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yee (navigate to your area, click "run" and wait) At least in my region detecting parks

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

24. Apr 2018 21:29 by rich...@systemed.net : > If I read Frederik's proposal right, the language=en tag would be placed on > the object with the name tag > Interesting idea, I like it. Is there already a page on the OSM wiki describing this proposal? __

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

25. Apr 2018 07:01 by marc.ge...@gmail.com : > I wonder why those arguments always pop up when we talk about separate > sidewalks and not when we talk about separate cycleways. > AFAIK it is common practice to map cycleways as separate ways in OSM > as soon as there i

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

I wonder why those arguments always pop up when we talk about separate sidewalks and not when we talk about separate cycleways. AFAIK it is common practice to map cycleways as separate ways in OSM as soon as there is a kerb. Don't we encounter the same problems in data processing for cycleways ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

Ed Loach wrote: >where there is a verge so narrow you can step across it without stepping on >the grass. Unless you're with a walker, a pram or a stroller, or in a wheelchair. > or put arbitrary joining ways at intervals. Only useful where there's a real connection anyway, i.e. a route starts f

Re: [OSM-talk] New wave of Pokémon Go mappers – check the parks

Hi, Michael, thank you for pointing to the problem. The query finds parks that existed already on April 23rd midnight. I think the relevant parks are rather those parks that have changed since that date. Thus, I suggest the query [timeout:120] [bbox:{{bbox}}]; ( way[leisure=park];

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

FYI The unisex tag is also used as a shorthand for female=yes, male=yes on shop=hairdresser [1] . Giving it another meaning on toilets might cause extra confusion. regards m [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=hairdresser Op di 24 apr. 2018 18:27 schreef Rory McCann : > Hi all,

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

not only that, bit generally in North America, men's washrooms are usually dirtier than woamns washrooms On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 2:46 PM Kathleen Lu, wrote: > I think the most likely application may be the other way around, where > transgender individuals concerned about harassment may purposefull

[OSM-talk] New wave of Pokémon Go mappers – check the parks

Hi, Pokémon Go seems to have updated its OpenStreetMap data [1] leading to an higher than usual number of new mapppers adding parks – some or many of them are fictional. It is a good idea to check http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/newestosm for your country (click on the flags to show only edits from

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

Adding a language=xx to each feature seems excessive, and will be forgotten most of the time, unless there is some extensive tool support for it. Adding it to admin regions seems like a better approach. Some utility could then calculate a clean translation map, using admin_level number as the deci

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

I thought we were already indicating which language name is in, with the name:language=:iso tag? Hmm, apparently not: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name Polyglot 2018-04-24 21:29 GMT+02:00 Richard Fairhurst : > Paul Norman wrote: > > If there's

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

On Tuesday 24 April 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Someone once suggested to have a special tag that indicates which > name tag should be used by default. I.e. we'd have tons of "name:xx" > tags plus one tag called e.g. "language=en", that would then mean: > The default name to use is the name:en n

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

Paul Norman wrote: > If there's agreement that there is a problem here, I could look > at preparing a mechanical edit or MapRoulette challenge to add > name:* tags, e.g. adding name:en to objects in the US with > other name:* tags, and adding name:zh in China. As an > estimate, this would be 11

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

24. Apr 2018 20:03 by md...@xs4all.nl : > I think you're opening another can of worms here. How would this work out for > me (in Dutch) where I don't want to see places in latin script translated? I > do not want to see Londen or Berlijn or Brunswijk, I also don't want t

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

On 24.04.2018 02:17, Clifford Snow wrote: > But if you want > someone to use the data, then map it as separate ways.  That's not the case, and it's a bit frustrating to read this just after I wrote a mail explaining this point. To reiterate: * With separate ways, we don't know which road section

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 08:16:08PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 04/24/2018 07:23 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > > If there's agreement that there is a problem here, I could look at > > preparing a mechanical edit or MapRoulette challenge to add name:* tags, > > e.g. adding name:en to objects

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

I think the most likely application may be the other way around, where transgender individuals concerned about harassment may purposefully seek out restrooms that are designated unisex in order to reduce the chances of encountering someone who might challenge whether they are using the "correct" re

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:16:08 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > I.e. we'd have tons of "name:xx" tags > plus one tag called e.g. "language=en", that would then mean: The > default name to use is the name:en name. > > I think this would be more elegant than the duplication that you are > suggesting. T

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

On 24.04.2018 19:23, Paul Norman wrote: > It is sometimes recommended that when you add a name in another language > you also indicate the name in the local language by adding a suitable > name:* tag at the same time. For example, if adding "name:fr=Londres" to > London, you would also add "name:en

[OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

Hi, On 04/24/2018 07:23 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > If there's agreement that there is a problem here, I could look at > preparing a mechanical edit or MapRoulette challenge to add name:* tags, > e.g. adding name:en to objects in the US with other name:* tags, and > adding name:zh in China. As an est

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

Hi, On 04/24/2018 08:02 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: > Why do you think it necessary to map at all if any particular toilet is > segregated or not beyond whether I can go there as a man/woman? What is > the application? I know people of both standard genders who would prefer using a toilet that is for

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

Why do you think it necessary to map at all if any particular toilet is segregated or not beyond whether I can go there as a man/woman? What is the application? On 24/04/2018 18:27, Rory McCann wrote: > Hi all, > Let's have a wee talk about how should one map gender neutral (and > gender segregat

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

On 2018-04-24 19:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I fully agree that it is a problem. I encountered nasty issues after implementing name rendering fallback with following language order (order is simplified for this example): name:pl, name:en, name:de, name Intention was to render English name in C

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

I fully agree that it is a problem. I encountered nasty issues after implementing name rendering fallback with following language order (order is simplified for this example): name:pl, name:en, name:de, name Intention was to render English name in China/Korea rather than unreadable (for typical p

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:27:02 +0200 Rory McCann wrote: > Thoughts? Feedback? Anything I'm missing? Note that defining tag with proposal on wiki will not change existing data or immediately change how people understand tag. I was not investigating the situation in this case but have you considere

[OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

As part of my Wikimedia Foundation work, I'm working on labeling in multiple languages using OSM data. We've run into an issue, and it's not clear how to best solve it. It is sometimes recommended that when you add a name in another language you also indicate the name in the local language by add

[OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

Hi all, Let's have a wee talk about how should one map gender neutral (and gender segregated) toilets. There is a unisex=yes for toilets which looks like it might be the number one tag to use. The bog standard meaning of "unisex toilet"[1] is a gender neutral toilet, i.e. not segregated into sepa

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

Clifford wrote: > There is a good website that explains the separate way approach > http://opensidewalks.com > I know the people who put it together and they convinced me it's the better > approach. I would say separate ways make more sense in urban USA where you can't cross the road just anyw