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rest, how regularly are you planning to import data from
OSM? A quick skim over my local area reveals one or two that need
updating already.
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s perfectly correct. You are
confusing the branding of the store with the branding of the products
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; themselves, they don't particularly care.
That was largely my thinking. With a general rule we can save
ourselves the trouble of trying to wrangle with uninterested marketing
departments for a "blessed" style and make exceptions as and when
they are required.
shop sign!) this would give us a rule of thumb that
should be easy enough to follow in the majority of situations.
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full address that I can add to OSM?
> Is this contentious?
No, just confusing! ;)
> How can you determine the postal town from a survey?
In my local area all addresses within a postcode district share the
same post town.
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the lack of discussion and consensus over issues like
> parent/subsidiary streets, usage of addr:interpolation on buildings,
> and so on.
I've largely given up on adding addresses in OSM but if I were to
resume then I'd certainly find it helpful if we had a wiki page with
r to specify the bit of the address between
the road (addr:street) and the post town (addr:city).
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ould it be worthwhile expanding this proposal to also cover the
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y consider such areas to be "in the forest" despite the lack of
trees. Perhaps place=locality or place=forest would be a better fit?
Has anyone dealt with a similar issue? I'm hoping that someone will
help me see the wood for the trees!
[1] http
d or
that they feel are irrelevant. If we want people to care about relations
then we need to explain to them why they are important and make the
learning process as painless as possible.
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element x for reason y, please help me.".
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ial_ref" as well. Other than that I didn't
spot anything wrong from a cursory glance.
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revived
or the services had been relocated to another server and my URLs were
out of date. I'll hang fire and wait for the admins to finish their
work.
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back up and running but I've been unable to
find out what happened to the HCC images.
[1]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2014-May/016027.html
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s the official tile server for OpenData StreetView.
>
It failed to restart after the planned maintenance on Saturday:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-July/070133.html
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velopment that is too recent to show up on Bing or OS
StreetView.
FWIW I intend use "source=HantsCC_OpenData_Aerial" for this dataset.
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enote place within a global hierarchy then
supplemented it with designation=unitary_authority etc. to record
regional intricacies.
Perhaps we could use designation=GB:city in this instance?
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tions for how to tag something greater than a
building but less than a street?
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about your own
> interpretation.
Please try and keep things civil.
[1]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2013-July/015028.html
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata
[3]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Licensing/Ordnance_Survey_OpenData_License
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the local
> council and OSGB data may be at variance with what is on the ground
> (as I discovered a while ago in Carmarthenshire). Using Open Data to
> establish whether an existing mapped path is a ProW is a different
> matter.
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Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:30:42 +
> Andy Street wrote:
> >If there is a facility that allows the general public access to
> >collect or send mail then I'd consider amenity=post_office to be
> >appropriate.
>
nd mail then I'd consider amenity=post_office to be appropriate.
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hard to achieve and
it would eliminate any risk for OSM.
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OSM compatible licence).
> 'Hampshire's maintained highways list'
> Are you referring to
> http://www3.hants.gov.uk/roads/highway-factsheets/maintained-roads.htm ?
> Or something else?
Yes that is the list I was referring to.
> How
rt to the council. Not only will you be helping
fellow mappers who follow in your footsteps but other path users too.
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appear in Hampshire's maintained highways list and are drawn on an OS
Explorer map as green dots.
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er the current
site and I can easily nuke the welcome box via userContent.css should
the need arise. :)
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re generally changed infrequently and the URL may well change if the
FSA decide to redesign their website.
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end up with the full ISO3166-2
under such a permissive licence?
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I guess if I had the luxury of redesigning the way we tag speed limits
it would look something like this:
maxspeed=x mph - where x is the posted speed limit or 30/60/70 mph for
national speed limit roads.
maxspeed:type=GB:(zone|limit|national) - The type of limit in force.
carriageway=(single|dual)
n the South
Coast where some people think the area code is 02380 for Southampton and
02392 for Portsmouth when it is actually 023 for the whole area. I do
sometimes wonder whether it is a simple misunderstanding or the old
local rivalry and not wanting to get lumped in with "that lot at the
x27;m slightly more hesitant when it comes to fiddling with whitespace.
Since most data consumers will likely strip whitespace altogether or
reformat it for display to end users I don't see the value in making
this change unless there is a need to edit the item for some
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 10:52 +0200, Colin Smale wrote:
> Is there anyone in the area or
> otherwise in the know who can confirm or deny that this is represented
> correctly in OSM?
I think this is quite clearly a mistake; if it isn't part of NFDC then
it would require either its own district autho
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 23:11 +, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
> I'd say that a track only exists because vehicles have passed that
> way,
> and will only exist while vehicles continue to use it (which in some
> ways implies it's unfenced), whereas an unsurfaced/dirt service road
> has been constructed
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:01 +, Henry Gomersall wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 18:52 +0000, Andy Street wrote:
> > when someone builds a house over a public right of way
>
> Does that happen often? Is there not some requirement to then knock the
> house down again if it
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 13:58 +, Dave F. wrote:
> Blockages of ways are often just temporary.
> I disagree with Andy Street's comment:
> "If you can't traverse a right of way then it shouldn't have a highway
> tag."
Okay perhaps I could have been clearer but I wasn't suggesting omitting
the high
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 10:09 +, John Aldridge wrote:
> All this discussion of rights of way reminds me: is there a consensus
> about how (and whether) to map rights-of-way which are either impassable
> or invisible?
>
> I've encountered examples of both round here, and have so far chosen not
Evenin' all,
Like most forces Hampshire Constabulary is trying to save money and one
of their initiatives has been to reduce the number of police stations.
My local station is one of those affected by the cuts and while the
building is still in use for parking patrol cars and has the odd plod in
r
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 14:18 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
> I propose the Bugle Inn at Botley at 8pm on Tuesday the 24th July.
Sounds good to me. I'm out of town during the day but I'm fairly
confident that I'll be back in time.
Cheers,
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On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 13:36 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote:
> Andy Street wrote:
> > ... do a ground survey to ensure that the path actually follows the
> > route recorded in the definitive map.
>
> ... or use a source tag to make it clear where it's come from and that a
&
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 13:29 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> >Hence, unfortunately, I don't think we can use the Hampshire data
> >(going forward under ODbL) unless we get explicit permission from the
> >copyright holders. For the maps, this would presumably mean both the
> >council and OS. It's a re
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 10:46 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Some good news! As from yesterday, Hampshire County Council have released
> their Rights of Way data under the OS OpenData licence.
Good news indeed.
This must be the reason why they've been too busy to answer my licensing
query despite
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 13:02 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 10:00 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
> >
> > I've added my 2 penneth.
> >
> > Maybe we should gather more samples of signs - e.g. to show differing
> > Councils styles (and then hopefully agreed tagging) to give better
Hi All,
I've just noticed that parts of Farnham, Surrey above the A31 have been
deleted. A quick skim through the history reveals that the damage was
done in changeset 11477559.
The account concerned was created recently so this is likely to be a
mistake rather than vandalism. Unfortunately I don
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 14:32 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
> On 03/05/12 21:34, Andy Street wrote:
> >> No. Designation tags imply nothing in OSM right now, as currently
> >> documented, and by design IIRC. Also, I refer you to the recent mailing
> >> list post rega
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 20:08 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
> On 03/05/12 19:11, Andy Street wrote:
> > This hypothetical track follows the route of an ancient pathway and is
> > used more by the plethora of dog walkers from the nearby village than by
> > Farmer Giles. Sure
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 18:02 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
> > The thing I dislike about footway, bridleway, etc. is that they mix the
> > physical characteristics with access information. Using your definition
> > above I can think of a number of foottracks, bridletracks and even a
> > footunclassi
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:58 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote:
> We both agree on using designation. This is good.
+1
> Would you also agree that h=paths are generally too narrow to use in a
> 4-wheeled vehicle? After all, that's what h=tracks or the other road
> types are intended for.
Generally, ye
On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 16:22 +, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:
> The second of a few emails from me today (apologies)!
>
> As part of the Public Rights of Way work I have added a table of all the
> English "surveying authorities" responsible for maintaining the Definitive
> Map and Statem
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 02:12 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote:
> I've been in contact with the mapper concerned about these problems
> several times over the past month, trying to be friendly and helpful,
> as
> would only be fair to a new mapper. Answers I received about the
> "designation" tagging inc
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 13:44 +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
> Maybe we could have a wiki page with a list of authorities, links to
> the Definitive Statement where available, details of requests made
> where not, and whether permission to re-use the information has been
> requested and/or gran
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 09:49 +, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi All,
> I spotted this by chance and doesn't look like it has been notified on this
> mailing list yet:
>
> Natural England (formally the Countryside Agency) has released GI data
> under the Open Gov License (OGL) on April
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 13:04 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
> IIRC the OSM map before had the Upperford Copse as footpaths only which is
> correct (I remember once going to cycle there several years ago but found out
> I was not allowed). The Southern section (name North Boarhunt?) only has
> signs
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:39 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 03:27:31 +0100
> > From: openstreet...@jordan-maynard.org
> > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?
> >
> > O
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 13:12 +0100, monxton wrote:
> On 29/03/2012 21:38, Andy Street wrote:
> >
> > Yes, there were some rather over zealous remappers in this area.
> > Swanmore, the Forest of Bere and the surrounding area was left in a
> > right old mess which I
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 19:30 +0100, Robert Norris wrote:
> Probably most where Andy Steets initial trials, but he's agreed so was
> there some over zealous deletion by some one?
Yes, there were some rather over zealous remappers in this area.
Swanmore, the Forest of Bere and the surrounding area wa
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 00:07 +, Robert Norris wrote:
> Next I then discover Andy Street had been also using Hampshire Council
> Council as a source reference in various changesets, such as:
While this doesn't have any direct bearing on my accepting the ODbL/CT
it might be usefu
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 09:25 -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
> > There's a draft statement in the LWG minutes a few
> > weeks ago [2]. I wonder if LWG got round to approving this
> > at their most recent meeting...
>
> They have now done so!
Looks interesting, I'
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 09:29 +0100, Andy Allan wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> >> 2) Why the need for even one? After all, the "ref" tag on all the
> >> component parts of the A1 should identify them without the need for a
> >> relation.
> >
> > True. A relation
The boundary for the South Downs National Park[0] has recently been
added (more precisely it has been made to render) but is in need of some
TLC. With the exception of a small section at the western end it is
generally of very poor quality.
It is therefore my intention to delete all but the wester
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 18:58 +0100, Kevin Peat wrote:
> Well I find it encouraging that people are using OSM otherwise what is
> the point of us making it? The fact they are too stupid to work a
> satnav is probably true as most members of the crowd are unfortunately
> idiots. The mapdust folks just
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:48 +, Peter Miller wrote:
>
>
> On 13 March 2011 15:55, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 13/03/11 15:41, Ed Loach wrote:
>
> You've probably seen the numerous edits by
> chriscf. Can anyone
>
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 19:26 +, Andy Allan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrew wrote:
>
> > The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and
> > hopefully
> > more to come) applications written by people all round the world.
> > Country-specific tagging guideli
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 10:26 +, Dave F. wrote:
> On 08/02/2011 16:54, Andy Street wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 10:40 +, Bob Kerr wrote:
> >> I am presently doing some tracing in Dumfries and there is a way which
> >> is marked public_transport=pay_scale_a
On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 10:40 +, Bob Kerr wrote:
>
> I am presently doing some tracing in Dumfries and there is a way which
> is marked public_transport=pay_scale_area. It is part of a Naptan
> import. The area seems to be vague and is cutting across a number of
> areas where I am doing some det
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:37 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> I think some discussion of this has come up before (some time ago) but how
> many people are tagging footpaths with their council reference numbers?
>
> Reason I ask is that I'm in the process of overhauling Freemap and one thing
> I'd l
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 16:44 +, Gregory Williams wrote:
> Looks great. I think an OpenLayers Permalink anchor would make it even
> better.
Done.
Cheers,
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On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 01:04 +0100, Andy Street wrote:
> I've produced a similar map for the Hampshire rights of way network
> ( http://hants.openstreetmap.org.uk/ ) so if I get some spare time this
> weekend I might have a go at creating a maxspeed version.
Okay, her
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 01:40 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:22 +0100, "thomas van der veen"
> wrote:
>
> > Has someone actually done something like this already? Or does someone
> > would
> > like to join me and making a custom version of a map renderer that can do
> > this?
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 21:22 +0100, thomas van der veen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently started mapping in South Hampshire and enjoying it, great
> fun.
Hello Thomas, welcome to OSM. It's always nice to hear of new mappers in
my neck of the woods. :o)
> I started adding some maxspeed tags to some ro
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 13:04 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> (Andy - are you interested in this BTW?)
Sorry Nick, I must have missed your original email. Yes, I can make the
16th if there is enough interest to make it feasible.
Cheers,
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On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 07:12 -0700, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> You were in the same place as me this weekend more or less!!! I
> recognise that.
>
> I walked from Andover to Winchester on Sunday afternoon and walked a
> small section of this cycle track near the Mayfly at Fullerton. You
I was out and about at the weekend when I came across this[0] sign for a
cycle route and I'm not quite sure how to tag it. I was under the
impression that national routes had red backgrounds and regional/local
routes had blue but it seems to be a rather large number for a national
route.
Can someo
Hi All,
Not strictly OSM related but I spotted the following television
programmes whilst setting my PVR to record and thought they might be of
interest to the people on this list:
BBC Four - 2010-04-18 21:00 - Maps: Power, Plunder and Possession
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00s2wvh
BBC Four
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 17:57 +0100, Peter Reed wrote:
> The detailed breakdown is here -
> http://www.reedhome.org.uk/Documents/OSMCoverMar2010.csv
Thanks for the update, it's great to see how OSM is progressing. I tried
to download the csv file but the link isn't working (404).
Cheers,
Andy
Hello all,
I'd like to announce a mapping party in Andover, Hampshire over the
weekend of the 15th & 16th of May. Andover is a "UK mapping priority".
http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/UK_Mapping_Priorities
Further information can be found at:
http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Andover_Mapping_Party
Regards,
A
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:20 +, Luke Bosman wrote:
> The wording is "The representation on this map of any other road, track or
> path is no evidence of the existence of a right of way".
>
> Cheers,
> Luke
It depends which map you look at! ;o) I took my wording from an OS
1:25,000 First Edit
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 14:36 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> >Also, the definitive map/statement is not even definitive! The
> >Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 set a cut off date of 2026 for
> >all rights of way to be recorded on definitive statements or be lost,
>
> Going off the OSM subject
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 13:27 +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ciarán
> Mooney wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Seen this map before, very cool. Do you use the postcode=* or
> > add:postcode=* to pull out the areas?
> >
>
> postal_code and addr:postcode taken from either nodes or w
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 11:32 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> More details to follow. Andy S - since you're in that area more than I am,
> can you recommend any good meeting venues in the area (e.g. wifi, good
> beer)?
I don't use wifi hotspots much but I'll do a bit of reserch online to
see what I
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 12:09 +, Ben Ward wrote:
> Effectively it's a bit like geocaching except you take your own stone
> and photograph it there. Perhaps this is too far off-topic for most,
> but I did map some roads in Berkshire while I was at it, which I just
> wouldn't have done otherwise.
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 16:10 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> How does the Crown, Southampton on the evening of Thursday Nov 27th
> 8pm
> sound?
That would be fine for me. I've missed the last couple of meetings for
one reason or another so I'll do my best to make it along to this one.
Cheers,
An
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 21:57 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> It's been a while since the last Solent area pub meet, so it's about time for
> another one :-) I'm fairly free in March so can do more or less anytime but
> would like to initially suggest the evening of Tuesday Marc
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 22:27 +, Stephen Coast wrote:
> Why don't we do it again this summer? We'll hire one or more cottages
> in central Wales, say, as a jumping off point. Main mapping weekend
> but people welcome to stay the week. So
>
> * Where: mid wales
> * When: er... summer some tim
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 12:50 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Would like to make the evening venue of the East Hants mapping weekend the
> Flower Pots Inn in Cheriton, which brews its own beer :-)
A good choice, the Flower Pots is a nice pub.
> Only thing is, public transport to the area stops at 6
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:23 +0100, Andy Street wrote:
> A list of access permissions can be found on this website
I forgot to say in my original email that I'm not deriving data from the
Forestry Commission website because it is Crown Copyright. All the
access information on that pa
Hi,
I've been out in the Forest of Bere[1] grabbing GPS traces of the paths
running through the forest but I'm not 100% sure of the best way to tag
them on OSM. The paths themselves run can vary between maintained paths
which are wide enough to drive a vehicle down (but are not permitted) to
simpl
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 18:01 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> Please let me know if you're interested in one or both of these.
I'd be willing to attend any of your three suggestions.
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Hi,
On my travels I've passed a couple of areas of "access land"[1] and I'm
not sure how to tag them. Has anyone else mapped such an area?
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Andy
[1] http://www.countrysideaccess.gov.uk/things_to_do/open_access
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 22:02:52 +0100 "Barry Crabtree"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... when you find it amusing to add 'Little Snoring', 'Great
> Snoring', and 'Quiet Bottom'
I've been meaning to explore Betty Mundy's Bottom for a while now. :)
Regards,
Andy
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:06 +0100 "Barnett, Phillip"
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> Sounds good - can we nominate squares?
Geobingo anyone? ;)
On a more serious note, is the idea to just copy place names from NPE or
is it intended to try and trace in as much of the area as possible (e.g.
roads)?
On Tue, 8 May 2007 01:44:42 +0100 Andy Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Does anyone know who is working in the Fareham area of Hampshire?
Never mind I've found who it was. I tried to use the api by requesting
individual nodes etc without success but in the end I stumbled acr
Hi,
Does anyone know who is working in the Fareham area of Hampshire? I've
just noticed a load of changes from the 2nd of May which duplicate a
lot our existing data.
If no one claims it I'll go through and tidy it up.
Regards,
Andy
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:48:41 +0100 Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The venue is RM322, Reginald Mitchell Building, Southampton Solent
> University, East Park Terrace, Southampton.
Nick,
Is there on-site parking we can use or is it best to head into town and
find a car park?
Regards,
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