From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> The truth is
that history is a body of knowledge from which all of us interpret and
understand truth, > including truth found in the Bible.
Kevin wrote:> I do not interpret the truth of the bible through
the lense of history. I interpret history thr
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH, no one conclusively knows who wrote Hebrews.
DAVEH: That has been previously mentioned, and I understand that. But
I was asking Kevin specifically about what he believes because of a
comment DavidM made about what he suspects Kevin believesthat Paul
did
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
There is no salvation for angels.
DAVEH: Why do you say that, Perry?
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Appears to me that you may need help yourself Bill because
when we do appear before the Lord, he is not going to be
impressed by the Nicene Fathers. What we will be judged
by are the words that HE spoke and BTW the Holy Spirit
can speak and communicate in English also.
judyt
God allows the d
From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Did Christ include Judas in his death? Did He die
for him?
I think, unless we want to go into a discussion of
Limited Atonement,
we must conclude that He did. What then, if Christ
took Judas down
with Him in death, would preclude him from
Salvation?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
The RCC needed reformation because it was broken, not missing.
Plus, as several have told you, there always has been a true church
that existed outside the RCC.
I do not believe that the restituion of all things has anything to so
with the LDS.
DAVEH: I understand
Wm. Taylor wrote:
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From:
Wm.
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity
I'm probably going to make you all
cringe a little bit here, and some of you more than a li
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good job, vince, I
am saving most of this information.
To our Mormon buds, I re-ask a question.
DAVEH: Sorry John..I must have missed it the first time. As you
may know, there has been an extraordinary amount of TT traffic
lately.
Someone posted
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Do you regard me as being too inferior (due to my LDS
beliefs) to carry on a respectful conversation with me?
That is for those thyat are WORTHY and have a Temple recommend.
Us Gentiles are not ready for and are not worthy to recieve the meat of
Mormonism.
DAVE
In a message dated 3/10/2004 9:22:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about those people that make the soup? Sorry, I could not resist.
I love this group. There are so many really clever comments and just good stuff.
The soup thing -- funny but it also reminded me
Kevin Deegan wrote:
http://www.irr.org/mit/smithson.html
http://www.probe.org/docs/book-mormon.html
The Smithsonian Institute in a letter to the Mormon Church
DAVEH: FTR...They were not responding to a letter from the Mormon
Church. They were replying to a request for
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Campbellite
This designation existed only in the minds of those Prebyterian and
Baptist
of the day (1800's). There is no such thing as a "Campbellite."
John
How about those people that make the soup? Sorry, I could not resist.
___
There is no salvation for angels.
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:54:06 -0800 (PST)
The question is can the devil get saved?
"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:D
DaveH, no one conclusively knows who wrote Hebrews. Paul is the most likely
candidate, but there is no solid proof.
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] reliability of the HOLY BIBLE
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:39:26 -0800
DAVEH:
In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:47:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have Norton too, John, and my provider checks every transaction through McAfee. I am sorry you got hit. I do not think it was me. Do you know how I might check to make sure?
Bill
I am really ignorant wh
Kevin: more information for my "save" file. Thanks.
To the Mormons buds:
In regard to the American Indians - are they Jews?
John
I have Norton too, John, and my provider checks
every transaction through McAfee. I am sorry you got hit. I do not think it
was me. Do you know how I might check to make sure?
Bill
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday
WARNING
I was saving some infor from B Taylor and my computer got hit with a virus or somekind of spywear. I have Norton -- just put it into my machine last week. It killed it -- but beware. I am not saying it was Bill's email -- could be anyone's.
It is a distressing thought but
http://www.irr.org/mit/smithson.html
http://www.probe.org/docs/book-mormon.html
The Smithsonian Institute in a letter to the Mormon Church states, "The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian Archaeologists see no connection between
Whitmer was a "witness" for the BoM. In this pamphlet, he was talkinjg about the LDS church, when it was organized in Fayette NY it was first called the "Church of Christ" The name was changed to "Church of the Latter Day Saints" and finally to todays "Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saint
Do you regard me as being too inferior (due to my LDS beliefs) to carry on a respectful conversation with me?
That is for those thyat are WORTHY and have a Temple recommend. Us Gentiles are not ready for and are not worthy to recieve the meat of Mormonism.
How many times do I have to say God
In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:22:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry I tensed up on you. Sometimes this is all too exacerbating.
No problem. I am a pretty aggressive guy myself -- I get to say "I'm sorry" much more often than I get to say "guess that makes right (a
Yes, they do; however, I do not think they came
through in the same order of correspondence as I sent them, so you might want to
check the original times to get them in context. Thanks, brother. Sorry I tensed
up on you. Sometimes this is all too exacerbating.
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Good job, vince, I am saving most of this information.
To our Mormon buds, I re-ask a question. Someone posted the notion that that there is some stone in Mexico with the ten commandments written on it and so on. Is that just a fantasy to be accpted without proof or is there some supportin
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Try it real slow again...
God was the AUTHOR, the delivery was thru HOLY MEN of God.
DAVEH: Annd.I'll try it again..really
slooow...whoo d youuu thik
was th HOOOLY MN
In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:09:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I grew up hearing that, too. I guess that makes us Stoneys.
Brother meet they brother !!!
Pardon me for being a little slow, but, the several emails you posted -- I am assuming they establish the full w
I grew up hearing that, too. I guess that makes us
Stoneys.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:05
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins
found in Kentucky?
In a
message dated 3/10/2
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:28:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
More likely these associations:
The information that follows your words above is or good be very use to my notion that Restoration teaching influenced Mormonism. Thanks.
John
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:28:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Campbellite
This designation existed only in the minds of those Prebyterian and Baptist of the day (1800's). There is no such thing as a "Campbellite."
John
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:28:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is the way the High Priests and the 'priesthood' as you have it, was introduced into the Church of Christ almost two years after its beginning--and after we had baptized and confirmed about two thousand
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:54:39 -0700 "Blaine Borrowman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> the Lamanites ... had to have intermarried with a much larger group of
people already present in the Americas ... That discovery has important
implications ... and could easily make the DNA research almost
irrele
Thanks for taking the time. DavidM. As I said, my salvation does not hang on
when the resurrection occurs. I am ready at any time to go. Although I long
to be with the Lord and hope to avoid the great tribulation, I am in part
curious to witness the end times. Another cute phrase that means noth
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Did Christ include Judas in his
death? Did He die for him? I think, unless we want to go into a
discussion of Limited Atonement, we must conclude that He did. What
then, if Christ took Judas down with Him in death, would preclude him
from Salvation? Will he (J
- Original Message -
From: Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity
Greetings John, welcome to the conversation. I am
glad you are interested and want to participate.
For the sake of context, since it is I whom
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From: Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity
I'm probably going to make you all cringe a little
bit here, and some of you more than a little. By the way, I hope you don't mind
if I butt in.
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From: Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity
John,
By the way, the closest equivalent that koine Greek
has to the idea of person, as I've laid it out below, is the word soma.
This word is
The RCC needed reformation because it was broken, not missing.
Plus, as several have told you, there always has been a true church that
existed outside the RCC.
I do not believe that the restituion of all things has anything to so with
the LDS. Just another LDS prooftext. In fact, the only refe
- Original Message -
From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity
> John, you say > "A second reason for the confusion (as I understand it) is
> that God did not chose to explain Himself to us.
I hope so.
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:54
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set
the tone
The question is can the devil get saved?"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You were already a participating member when I got
into the Trinity discussion. Your first correspondence to me, was in response to
my first correspondence in relation to the Trinity discussion. And if there is a
tinge of disgust in my voice, please realize it is just a tinge -- I ought to be
The question is can the devil get saved?"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Did Christ include Judas in his death? Did He die for him? I think, unless we want to go into a discussion of Limited Atonement, we must conclude that He did. What then, if Christ took Judas down with Him in death,
Did Christ include Judas in his death? Did He die
for him? I think, unless we want to go into a discussion of Limited Atonement,
we must conclude that He did. What then, if Christ took Judas down with Him in
death, would preclude him from Salvation? Will he (Judas) not see resurrection?
If J
I'm sorry Blaine you want more on the witnesses?
"...neither did I ever hear of such a thing as an angel ordaining them until I got into Ohio about the year 1834--or later. Oliver stated to me in Joseph's presence that they had baptized each other--seeking by that to fulfill the command. And afte
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:04:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Take a pill, Bill. I was not trying to tee you off.
No, I am not saying that. Read again, deliberately this time, the whole Trinitarian conversation from the time I got involved in it and maybe what I d
DAVEH: Why do you go to such great lengths to avoid telling me who you
think penned Hebrews, Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Joseph Smith, Jr., The Holy Scriptures, Translated and
Corrected by the Spirit of Revelation, by Joseph Smith, Jr. the Seer ...
Plano, Illinois: Published by the Churc
Masters Deegree? In childrens lit?
Could not be a hard science.Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine: Latest comments are below, in blue
- Original Message -
From: Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebre
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:16:53 -0500 "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now we beseech you..by our
gathering together unto him..2Thess 2
literarily. isn't the
(current) gathering together, above, the main proof that the
day of the Lord is future?
G ~ P
235
Well here we go the LDS church is true because they are growing so fast argument.
If the rate of growth is the determining factor, get out your turbin and become a muslim thay are much bigger than the LDS church.Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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From: Ke
Try it real slow again...
God was the AUTHOR, the delivery was thru HOLY MEN of God.Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
God is the Author, the delivery was thru HOLY MEN of God.DAVEH: Then who do you think penned Hebrews, Kevin? Is it my imagination, or are you trying to avoid an
Your a bible scholar now?Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons
Kevin wrote:
Did you finish Aesop's yet?
Blaine
So the Devil could be saved if he endures to the end?Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
He was a devilDAVEH: Do you believe he was a devil when Jesus chose and ordained him?
Is the Devil saved?DAVEH: Not if he fails endure to the end, as did Judas. As a tangential question
More likely these associations:
Sidney Rigdon was excommunicated as a Baptist minister on October 11, 1823, for teaching false doctrine, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He joined Alexander Campbell and Walter Scott to form the emerging Disciples of Christ. He was a Campbellite preacher until he "conve
Kevin Deegan wrote:
He was a devil
DAVEH: Do you believe he was a devil when Jesus chose and ordained him?
Is the Devil saved?
DAVEH: Not if he fails endure to the end, as did Judas.
As a tangential question Kevin.Do you believe Jesus' grace can
apply to one who has bee
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:55:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are probably right about one thing, the Southern Baptists would not believe anything they had not heard inculcated into their minds by tradition, repetition, and the fear of the boys with the hoods who
I am afraid you are asking the wrong guy. I never went to one.
Terry
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Yeah, I here you. What about the
good schools though?
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From:
Terry
Clifton
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:33 PM
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:22
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence
Discourages Mormons
Kevin wrote:
Did you finish Aesop's yet?
Blaine: I guess that is your best sho
Kevin Deegan wrote:
God is the Author, the delivery was thru HOLY MEN of God.
DAVEH: Then who do you think penned Hebrews, Kevin? Is it my
imagination, or are you trying to avoid answering? If so.why???
Is it not a reasonable question to ask?
God did not use a pervert to deliv
John writes > Sorry judyt for cutting in BUT
is Bill saying that after the Nicene Fathers, there is no possibility for
similar but "original" thinking on the same subject?
No, I am not saying that.
Read again, deliberately this time, the whole Trinitarian
conversation from the time I got
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:49:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Sorry John..I sometimes forget there a lot of new folks in TT now. Joseph Smith.
thank you
john
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:19
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins
found in Kentucky?
I would welcome that event.
But in the meantime I will revel in all the
conversions right
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:15
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to
respond to or not able?
There you go a perfect picture of LDS Kindergarten
Theology (Ho Hum--just another
pu
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:20:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
think I figured it out. Some wise ass who thinks he knows it all.
good one Some will jump on you for the "a .." word but I am sure you meant it in the biblical sense.
John
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:17:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You seem to know a quite a bit about the Restoration denomination, John. Where did you pick this up?
Bill
I ministered in that fellowship for a number of years. I now proudly serve my Lord as a tentmaker
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:13:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you get if you've done both?
go to heaven?
John
Blaine: Latest comments are
below, in blue
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:08
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins
found in Kentucky?
Blaine Borrowman wrote:
Blaine You are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated
3/10/2004 12:01:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JS'
DAVEH: Sorry John..I sometimes forget there a lot of new folks in
TT now. Joseph Smith.
What is JS
John -- the new guy
--
~~~
Yeah, I here you. What about the good schools
though?
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:33
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
Wm. Taylor wrote:
What do you get i
ROTFLOLWelcome to TT, a hotbed of religious discussion!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone. This
is funny to me but , I sat down, opened all the mail from this list,
post three or four replies and emptied my mail box. I immedicately
exited the email and re-entered just to see if
Wm. Taylor wrote:
What do you get if you've done both?
Judging from what they are teaching in college these days, I would
suspect that you would get a lot of conflicting information.
Terry
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think we can better understand truth
an
Just kidding, just kidding.
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:37
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
I think I figured it out. Some wise ass who
thinks he knows it all.
--
I think I figured it out. Some wise ass who thinks
he knows it all.
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From:
Wm. Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:30
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
What do you get if you've done both?
You seem to know a quite a bit about the
Restoration denomination, John. Where did you pick this up?
Bill
Here's a history lesson.
Oliver Cowdry was a teacher and, for a time, a participant
in the Campbell/Stone movement (early 1800's).. Since I do not
believe that Mormon "truth
What do you get if you've done both?
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:15
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The value of
history
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think we can better understand
In a message dated 3/10/2004 4:23:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine: Kevin is right about the apostacies, wrong about the credibility of the witnessing. The 12 men never denied their testimonies, even after they had apostasized. Most, including two of the three witn
Blaine: Kevin is right about the apostacies,
wrong about the credibility of the witnessing. The 12 men never denied
their testimonies, even after they had apostasized. Most, including two of
the three witnesses who saw the angel, repented, and rejoined the LDS Church
after it had moved to
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/dajjal.htm
But I will tell you something which no Prophet has told his people.Verily he (Dajjal) is one-eyed and Allah is not one-eyed.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0953327515/103-4075416-0637422?v=glance
For some reason god thought it importa
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think we can better understand truth
and life through a knowledge of history? Answer this and maybe I can
better understand where you are coming from. One thing for sure, what
you said struck a chord of resonance with others here, so maybe there is
so
In a message dated 3/10/2004 3:47:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What will take the place of denominations?
In the Bible there is the church local and the church universal but exactly where is the church denominational?
Has there ever been a time on earth without "d
In a message dated 3/10/2004 3:21:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Answer this and maybe I can
better understand where you are coming from.
Look, I think we are having a semantics problem here more than anything. In its context, I stand by what I said. Now, if the co
DavidM says I already accept the Bible as an authority for truth
What are the other "authorities"?
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Perry wrote:> Actually, we know the order is true despite what > "falling away" may mean, right? Paul is laying out > the order. The falling away happens, then
What will take the place of denominations?
Has there ever been a time on earth without "denominations"?David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Miller wrote:>> Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better >> off learning to synthesize our viewpoints together >> into a complete whole, w
This is the core of the problem, you are essentially a Mormon in sheeps clothing.
JN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
JN 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; b
Hi everyone. This is funny to me but , I sat down, opened all the mail from this list, post three or four replies and emptied my mail box. I immedicately exited the email and re-entered just to see if anything had post while I working on your (you all) articles. THERE WERE 20 new emails. M
Jesus said I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life
He did not say I know the way, He said He IS the Way, IS the Truth.
The TRUTH PERSONIFIED!
TRUTH manifest in the Flesh. Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jt wrote > If they were kept in their place it w
In a message dated 3/10/2004 1:02:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the Nicene fathers. Get it? They are the ones who invented the word "person" to express what their language could not otherwise say about the Godhead and Jesus Christ.
Sorry judyt for cutting in BUT is Bill
David Miller wrote:
>> Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better
>> off learning to synthesize our viewpoints together
>> into a complete whole, where perhaps a synergy might
>> develop through such mutual cooperation.
Vince wrote:
> Most people call that ecumenism.
No, you aren't
ROTFL
Exactly!
The bible never tells us to find areas of commonality. Find Truth let the chips fall where they may. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better off learning tosynthesize our viewpoints together into a co
John Smithson wrote:
> Wow -- David my friend Where have you gone?
> I was referencing spiritual truth more than anything
> when I made my statement "I am educated by the Word,
> I am entertained by history."Entertainment includes,
> in this case, the joy and validation I feel
Amen Amen Amen
Thanks for the scriptures.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 04:08:49 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:> Jesus must be mistaken because you know there was a TOTAL Apostacyshortly after the last apostle died there were no more christians onearth.vince:God
In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:45:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does that mean you would have been in the Coliseum cheering as Christians were being fed to the Lions? That is history. Is that the kind of entertainment you are looking for?
If I left the list without eve
I also think you do not understand the bible teaching on separationDavid Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin wrote:> Something has gone horibly wrong the man that > preaches UNITY is now going to distance himself > or "SEPARATE" from the one who preaches separation. > Isn't that a hoot!You appa
In a message dated 3/10/2004 11:51:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In New Mexico there is a stone in the side of a mountain with the 10 Commandments carved in the ancient Hebrew script that hasn't been used since around the time of Messiah.
Where would we get verificatio
David Miller wrote:
> The truth is that history is a body of knowledge
> from which all of us interpret and understand truth,
> including truth found in the Bible.
Kevin wrote:
> I do not interpret the truth of the bible
> through the lense of history. I interpret
> history through the lens of
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:42:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perry wrote:
> I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
> with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
> My position is that it is not "the Passion"...
> it is an RCC commentary about "the Passion"
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:27:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kevin has made several arguments about how the Book of Mormon has no
historical basis and therefore should not be trusted. If we accept the
idea that history has entertainment value but not educational value
In a message dated 3/10/2004 6:17:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A little less hyperbole, a little less certainty, might go a long way. When you equate your statement(s) of the truth with the Truth Himself you're already moving away from the Truth. Lance
By this phrase "
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:26:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What a great line Is that original? Can I steal it?
Terry
Yes but can have it --- send the anticipated revenues to my worship therapist - I am musically challenged. It is so bad that on one occ
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 04:08:49 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan
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> Jesus must be mistaken because you know there was a TOTAL Apostacy
shortly after the last apostle died there were no more christians on
earth.
vince:
God always preserves a remnant who are His people: 1 Kin
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:48:57 -0600 "Chris Barr"
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>By the way, "Indian" is an inaccurate word to describe the indigenous
peoples of the western hemisphere commonly called "the Americas".
My handy, dandy Webster's dictionary tells me that, in this context,
the word
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