Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-07 Thread Richard Stellingwerff
On 4/7/06, bvc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/dapper-xubu/progress-scroll-trough-frame.png I've touched it up some more using elements from ubuntulooks to replace the svg mockup elements. Looks much better, I think. Did you think about the issue where notebook tabs

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-07 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:20:16AM +0200, Richard Stellingwerff wrote: On 4/7/06, bvc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/dapper-xubu/progress-scroll-trough-frame.png I've touched it up some more using elements from ubuntulooks to replace the svg mockup elements.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-07 Thread bvc
Richard Stellingwerff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/7/06, bvc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/dapper-xubu/progress-scroll-trough-frame.png I've touched it up some more using elements from ubuntulooks to replace the svg mockup elements. Looks much better, I think.Did you

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-06 Thread Pascal Klein
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 16:48 +0300, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: So something like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/slider-in-action-2.png (left side version) Yes, that's the ticket. Richard, any objections? Mark I'm not a great fan of these

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-06 Thread bvc
bvc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Maybe you don't remember or don't use google? A round scrollbar was mentioned on gnomefiles. Doesn't matter. I know you want round scrollbars. You, like others, forget who you are talking to. I know it has been mentioned elsewhere butdoesn't matter. Just don't act

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Richard Stellingwerff
On 4/5/06, bvc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Achieving round w/o gaps is the issue at hand. Scrollbars like Industrial solves thatthat is sensible, and IMO is better than square. Anything is better than having something square in a everything else round widget theme. It is a distraction far

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Richard Stellingwerff wrote: I've made a few new mockups: http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.png (svg: http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.svg) All of these have rounded scrollbar tips AND rounded steppers. I'm looking for a mockup that does not change the steppers, but does

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Richard Stellingwerff wrote: I've made a few new mockups: http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.png (svg: I like the last ones, though I can see that even rounded scroll bar tips against a rounded edge can look odd. Here is a version with square stepper edges and rounded scroll bar tips:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, Here is a version with square stepper edges and rounded scroll bar tips: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/slider-01.png http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/slider-in-action.png I don't understand something : is the scroller overrideing arrow button ? I like the right

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: The trick is that the tips slightly overshoot the edge of the slider groove so you don't get a round edge meeting a square one. Imagine that the tips are not sitting in the groove with the rest of the slider, but are less deep so they can pass over the edge of the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: So something like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/slider-in-action-2.png (left side version) Yes, that's the ticket. Richard, any objections? Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 02:06:26PM +0100, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Richard Stellingwerff wrote: I've made a few new mockups: http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.png (svg: I like the last ones, though I can see that even rounded scroll bar tips against a rounded edge can look odd.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread bvc
Richard Stellingwerff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/5/06, bvc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Achieving round w/o gaps is the issue at hand. Scrollbars like Industrial solves thatthat is sensible, and IMO is better than square. Anything is better than having something square in a everything else

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-05 Thread bvc
...and why aren't listviews and frames round?:Dpixmap themes do it and people love it? Can't cairo do it? Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Daniel Borgmann wrote: On 4/3/06, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we are here I'm reminded of one additional thing I'd like to see mocked up. On the scrollbars, the white tips at each end might look even better if they had slightly rounded corners like the slider

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
bvc wrote: Let's not forget the range slider trough http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/dapper-xubu/progress-scroll-trough.png This has the problem Richard identified, that when the scrollbar is all the way up or down, you have a rounded scrollbar against a rounded stepper, which looks bong :-)

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Here is a mock-up to illustrate: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/rounded-progress.png I appreciate where that's going, but I think it looks wrong because the lines on the progressbar are themselves vertical and straight. So let's leave that one for now.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread bvc
Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps.BillyMark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:bvc wrote: Let's not forget the range slider

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Stellingwerff
On 4/4/06, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bvc wrote: Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps. I don't

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread bvc
Daniel Borgmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/4/06, bvc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps.Which is a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Richard Stellingwerff
I'm now subscribed to ubuntu-art, which I should have done that earlier, but I guess better late than never. I hope replying works fine, without starting a new thread. On 4/3/06, Daniel Borgmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/3/06, bvc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The progressbar does not look like

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Eric Feliksik
Étienne Bersac wrote: I completely agree with Petr, Billy, Andreas, my two brothers, friends (ploum for one of known people on the web) on Jabber with which i talked about that, etc. and you (daniel) say it's my personnal point of view ? And you advice us to let some people introduce their

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Mark Shuttleworth wrote: I like the glass effect on our current widgets. There's a strange greyness to the top half progressbar currently that I don't like, but I do like the glass effect nonetheless. These new mockups are smoother, rounder, but don't have the same glass effect that we have

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Étienne Bersac wrote: 100% agree. I even suggest to use exactly the same look for both scrollbar and slider handles. Mark, you did not clearly said if you prefer orange or caramel. Please precise this point. I think the orange looks great on many widgets. In general, widgets are not

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello,While you say they are not glassy enough, I don't know how you would work the glass effect into them, given their small size.Yes, 2 pixel wider and heigther would be clearer and allow theme to fit more with the theme (button and combo are quite big). (see OS X, but those one are too big for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread bvc
Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the glass effect on our current widgets. There's a strange greyness to the top half progressbar currently that I don't like, but I do like the glass effect nonetheless. These new mockups are smoother, rounder, but don't have the same glass

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Daniel Borgmann
On 4/3/06, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we are here I'm reminded of one additional thing I'd like to see mocked up. On the scrollbars, the white tips at each end might look even better if they had slightly rounded corners like the slider endpoints. Does that make sense?

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread bvc
Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we are here I'm reminded of one additional thing I'd like to see mocked up. On the scrollbars, the white tips at each end might look even better if they had slightly rounded corners like the slider endpoints. Does that make sense? The reason this

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Daniel Borgmann wrote: The problem is, that two rounded widgets glued together look very ugly. We avoid this everywhere else in the theme, like the comboboxes or treeview headers. So if we do rounded scrollbar sliders, I think we should do something different with the steppers. OS X and Vista

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: You said you wanted the scrollbar-tips slightly rounded, but I would actually like to see the tips of the progress bars slightly rounded too. That would make it look like a slightly viscous liquid filling a glass tube. Here is a mock-up to illustrate:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-03 Thread bvc
Henrik Nilsen Omma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Borgmann wrote: The problem is, that two rounded widgets glued together look very ugly. We avoid this everywhere else in the theme, like the comboboxes or treeview headers. So if we do rounded scrollbar sliders, I think we should do something

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-01 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, I completely agree with Billy. The curent artwork is obviously far from a polished final artwork. Every time i take a closer look at it, i think that will be polished before June. But as i read above, some consider this artwork as final. *glarg* !? Billy is completely right about

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-01 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello Andreas, is up to others to decide though. I know. I wish ubuntu is a real community distro. This comment was for who is able to decide this. (don't know who except Mark, Jeff and other @canonical.com people). Take care! Sorry, my english does not allow me to understand that :(