On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 10:17 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> Given that libmad is GPL and has not paid license fees to implement
> the
> MP3 codec, it is not legal. Whether or not you disagree with the
> validity of patents or not is irrelevant.
It's not patents I disagree with, it's the idea that pa
Rodney Dawes wrote:
>On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 04:44 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:39 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
>> > The Fluendo plug-in is the only fully legal MP3 codec
>implementation
>> > there is to use.
>>
>> You don't know that for sure Dobey, libmad has never gon
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 04:44 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:39 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> > The Fluendo plug-in is the only fully legal MP3 codec implementation
> > there is to use.
>
> You don't know that for sure Dobey, libmad has never gone to court and
> it's status is
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 04:44:19AM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> I didn't think Debian had issues with GPL libs though, that's new to
> me.
It doesn't. There's at least one in the base system.
The gstreamer good/bad/ugly split is determined by upstream, not by
Debian.
--
Colin Watson
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:39 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> The Fluendo plug-in is the only fully legal MP3 codec implementation
> there is to use.
You don't know that for sure Dobey, libmad has never gone to court and
it's status is a guess. Perhaps a very good guess, but a guess just the
same. Of
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 03:47 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> - gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - Non-free, not sure why we're using this
> instead of libmad which is free software.
We aren't "using" any of them, actually. We are packaging several, which
are not installed by default, within an appropriate p
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 05:41 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> beyond what's normally considered free software
With this meta package it gets very tricky, firstly because we've got
four issues: distribution rights, copyrights, patents and one special
case of DMCA issues. Most of the software/content i
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 03:41:31PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 03:31 PM, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 03:03:13PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
> >> ubuntu-restricted-extras
> >>
> >> Most of the stuff in ubuntu-restricted-extras is either not restricted
> >> or in p
>
>
> ubuntu-restricted-extras
>
> Most of the stuff in ubuntu-restricted-extras is either not restricted
> or in partner now. Perhaps this should be broken out into ubuntu-extras
> and ubuntu-restricted-extras?
>
> Micah
>
Another issue is that it looks like it is pulling in the FOSS version of
On 10/10/2011 03:31 PM, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 03:03:13PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
>> ubuntu-restricted-extras
>>
>> Most of the stuff in ubuntu-restricted-extras is either not restricted
>> or in partner now. Perhaps this should be broken out into ubuntu-extras
>> and ub
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 03:03:13PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
> ubuntu-restricted-extras
>
> Most of the stuff in ubuntu-restricted-extras is either not restricted
> or in partner now. Perhaps this should be broken out into ubuntu-extras
> and ubuntu-restricted-extras?
Partner is often more res
On 09/23/2011 03:56 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
>
> Allison
>
ubuntu-restricted-extras
Most of the stuff in ubuntu-r
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 01:08 +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Am Montag, den 26.09.2011, 13:48 +0200 schrieb Sebastien Bacher:
> > Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011 à 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal a écrit :
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
>
Hello Jason! Thanks for your email! You can help!
Computer programs are more or less simple things, and they can only do so
much. To make the computer hot and drain batteries, they are either
1) using a lot of cpu, or
2) making a lot of disk activity.
If your model of computer is experiencing th
Can you guys PLEASE make reducing heat & power consumption the top priority for
P-series?
Ubuntu Forums is filled with posts about ubuntu running hot, forced shutdowns
from heat, and draining batteries. When running Ubuntu, my netbook's fan runs
constantly and the computer feels hot to touch. H
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 07:52:39AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
>> Scott Kitterman [2011-09-28 1:33 -0400]:
>> > Will we sync from Testing or Unstable this cycle?
>>
>> My feeling is that syncing from testing served us well for the last
>> LTS,
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 07:52:39AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Scott Kitterman [2011-09-28 1:33 -0400]:
> > Will we sync from Testing or Unstable this cycle?
>
> My feeling is that syncing from testing served us well for the last
> LTS, and Debian is not in a freeze which would force unstable to
Scott Kitterman [2011-09-28 1:33 -0400]:
> Will we sync from Testing or Unstable this cycle?
My feeling is that syncing from testing served us well for the last
LTS, and Debian is not in a freeze which would force unstable to calm
down, so I would go again for autosyncing from testing, and lettin
On Friday, September 23, 2011 09:56:17 PM Allison Randal wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
>
Will we sync from Testing or Unstable this cycl
On Sep 27, 2011, at 01:02 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>If you aim your minimum Python version at 2.6, it's not that hard to write
>code that works with both python and python3. If you want a "P" target for
>Python3, I'd suggest getting Ubuntu custom code working in either so that we
>can throug
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Allison Randal wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
>
> All
On Friday, September 23, 2011 09:56:17 PM Allison Randal wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
Having a release where the release team wasn't fl
On Monday, September 26, 2011 06:58:45 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> The python-dbus issue is a tricky one. I understand that it's a blocker for
> KDE.
Python-opengl is another one.
While I know PyQt4 and PyKDE4 have Python3 ports, I have not examined how
complete they are, but I'm sure they need
Rodrigo Moya [2011-09-26 19:42 +0200]:
> aptdaemon already implements the session DBus interface from PK. What
> I'm talking about is about adding the system DBus interface from PK to
> aptdaemon
As it happens, Sebastian Heinlein just announced that he has started
working on this. :-)
Martin
--
Am Montag, den 26.09.2011, 13:48 +0200 schrieb Sebastien Bacher:
> Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011 à 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next
On Sep 25, 2011, at 01:29 PM, Martin Pitt wrote:
>Barry Warsaw [2011-09-23 19:55 -0400]:
>> * Python 3 only on the CDs.
>
>Given that in Oneiric we do not have a single Python 3 app on the CD,
>there are major blockers like dbus etc., and that P is an
>LTS/stability cycle, I think we should limit
On lun, 2011-09-26 at 13:04 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:58 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> > as GNOME upstream is moving to use PackageKit and systemd more and more,
> > I think it would be great, since these 2 provide well known DBus
> > interfaces, to implement those DBus i
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:58 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> as GNOME upstream is moving to use PackageKit and systemd more and more,
> I think it would be great, since these 2 provide well known DBus
> interfaces, to implement those DBus interfaces in our stack (aptdaemon
> and ¿ubuntu-system-service?
On lun, 2011-09-26 at 10:40 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Monday, September 26, 2011 03:58:56 PM Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> > On vie, 2011-09-23 at 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> > > that time i
On Monday, September 26, 2011 03:58:56 PM Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> On vie, 2011-09-23 at 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> > What
Life)
--a quiet running laptop (Less Noise because the fan doesn't need to run as
much because the laptop uses less power & runs cooler)
2.) bug fixing and refinement of already existing features/applications
> Subject: Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P
> From: seb...@ubuntu.
On dom, 2011-09-25 at 19:23 +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
> On 09/23/2011 10:56 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> > What's on your min
On vie, 2011-09-23 at 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
>
as GNOME upstream is moving to use PackageKit and syst
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011 à 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
>
> Allison
Hey Allison,
Some desktopish
On 09/23/2011 10:56 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
Hi all,
While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
What's on your mind?
In general, avoid big new things that will be half-baked if we start
work
On 23 September 2011 21:56, Allison Randal wrote:
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
>
Full proxy support for all core applications. Given P is an LTS it
would
Allison Randal [2011-09-23 21:56 +0100]:
> While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
> that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
> What's on your mind?
Cleanup: Get rid of more GNOME/GTK2-isms, like stop shipping two
webkits, drop PyGTK2
Barry Warsaw [2011-09-23 19:55 -0400]:
> * Python 3 only on the CDs.
Given that in Oneiric we do not have a single Python 3 app on the CD,
there are major blockers like dbus etc., and that P is an
LTS/stability cycle, I think we should limit ourselves to shipping
some python 3 apps.
> * Python 2.
no way to view
mp3 and mp4 tags in a list-like details view. Maybe this could be accomplished
via plugins or something?
> From: ubu...@kitterman.com
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:54:35 -0400
>
> On
On Friday, September 23, 2011 09:57:09 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 08:12 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >On Friday, September 23, 2011 07:55:24 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> >> * Python 3 only on the CDs.
> >
> >Not feasible for Kubuntu unless an upstream Python 3 port for python-dbus
> >
On Sep 23, 2011, at 08:12 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>On Friday, September 23, 2011 07:55:24 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> * Python 3 only on the CDs.
>
>Not feasible for Kubuntu unless an upstream Python 3 port for python-dbus
>appears (which python-qt4/pykde4 can support).
Yep, I fully expect ther
On Friday, September 23, 2011 07:55:24 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> * Python 3 only on the CDs.
Not feasible for Kubuntu unless an upstream Python 3 port for python-dbus
appears (which python-qt4/pykde4 can support).
> * Python 2.6 dropped.
Yes. We should do this as part of the toolchain setup for
On Sep 23, 2011, at 09:56 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
>While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
>that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
>What's on your mind?
* Python 3 only on the CDs.
* Python 2.6 dropped.
This time for sure. :)
/
*sony laptops . Sorry auto correct on my phone...fail
On Sep 23, 2011 6:31 PM, "Kyrillos Mossad" wrote:
> I'd like to see ambient light sensor support for don't laptops as of now
> only Macs and I believe Asus laptops are natively supported without
patches.
> It would also be nice to have fingerpr
I'd like to see ambient light sensor support for don't laptops as of now
only Macs and I believe Asus laptops are natively supported without patches.
It would also be nice to have fingerprint reader support built in
On Sep 23, 2011 6:02 PM, "Evan Huus" wrote:
> There's been a discussion recently o
There's been a discussion recently on the Ayatana list (first message
at [1]) about a 'contacts' or 'people' lens, and various related
ideas. It's a very neat concept and I think it's probably worth a
discussion at the UDS.
Just my two cents,
Evan
[1] https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg06608.
Hi all,
While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about
that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle.
What's on your mind?
Allison
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