Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-05 Thread Dave Lee
OK whomever is doing this stop. I am not the author of these emails. Someone has either cracked my email password (which will be changed right now) or is cleverly finding a way to put my name and email address in as a little joke. Adam, are you listening? Do you know how I know it is you?

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-05 Thread Adam
Adam, are you listening? Do you know how I know it is you? Yes, because your posts always show up from the day or two before the current date. I have been out all evening and just got home. Indeed I am (listening, that it). I conceed my computer's date is often out of synch (despite a new

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
From: Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 00:04:08 -0800 The M6260A is a support chip handling communications for the 8xC154D MCU. Try 64 pin DIP. If anyone has NEC Manual: Microprocessor and Peripheral - Data Book Volume III it probably contains what I need, from

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:13:30 -0800 From: Kirk D. Garber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attn: Dave Lee-- Hear, Hear! You tell 'em, Dave! You know, first, this discussion is on topic because it relates to getting the LC memory map hacked so that more than 10 MB of RAM can be used. Second, it would be a

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread the pickle
At 03:45 -0600 on 04/04/03, Jeff Walther wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:13:30 -0800 From: Kirk D. Garber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attn: Dave Lee-- Hear, Hear! You tell 'em, Dave! You know, first, this discussion is on topic because it relates to getting the LC memory map hacked so that more than 10

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread Dave Lee
Hey Joseph, excuse me asshole, but you aren't welcome on a Mac list talking about your shitty non-mac computer stuff. Fuck off and get out! --- Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:15:21 -0600, you wrote: From: Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread Dave Lee
Hey Gregg, piece of dogshit, get your shit non-Mac discussion off the list! --- Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 00:04:08 -0800 The M6260A is a support chip handling communications for the 8xC154D MCU. Try 64 pin

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread R. A. Cantrell
on 4/4/03 10:19 AM, Dave Lee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List Nanny, Please make a public announcement that this guy is gone forever. Hey Joseph, excuse me asshole, but you aren't welcome on a Mac list talking about your -- America: it's not against the law to be stupid here,

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-04 Thread mathews . 5
Dearest Dave, Piss off. Sincerely, Terry This discussion is off topic. Remember we are talking about the Macintosh here, OK? Get a clue losers! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread David Lee
At 03:45 -0600 on 04/04/03, Jeff Walther wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:13:30 -0800 From: Kirk D. Garber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attn: Dave Lee-- Hear, Hear! You tell 'em, Dave! You know, first, this discussion is on topic because it relates to getting the LC memory map hacked so that

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread the pickle
At 06:22 +1000 on 03/04/03, David Lee wrote: Oohhh! I'm sorry sir. Please don't use all of your amazing power and resources to do anything horrible to me, Mr. Pickle! Please, oh, please! Anything but that! I'm so sorry, please don't be mad at me! I apologise - please have mercy! I'll do

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread Robert Gray
At 21:07:42 -0800 on 4/3/03, Dave Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, please take this OFF the list. It has nothing to do with compact macs. Isn't there a moderator on this list? Hello? All this from someone who wanted to use the Quadlist to discuss the pros and cons of IE for web site design

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread David Lee
Oh No! I'm digging my own grave, oh, oh, I think I'm gonna mess up my pants! Please, I give up, I'm throwing myself upon your mercy! In the name of humanity, DON'T DO ANYTHING TO ME!!! Whew, someone get the mop. So, Mr. Pickle, once this hole that I've dug soo deep caves in on me, exactly

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-04 Thread Dave Lee
Umm, yeah I did not write this. --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:22 +1000 on 03/04/03, David Lee wrote: Oohhh! I'm sorry sir. Please don't use all of your amazing power and resources to do anything horrible to me, Mr. Pickle! Please, oh, please! Anything but that!

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread Robert Gray
That doesn't explain why a half dozen Mac hackers never came up with a trivial software solution. If it were doable, it would have been They don't work for Apple? Computer hobbyist...geeks...you know the kids that were hacking all kinds of stuff back then. They would have solved this if it

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread the pickle
At 21:23 -0500 on 02/04/03, Robert Gray wrote: Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a ROM dump and financial incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll have it fixed Thought we were talking trivial software solution here not a small project. We are. You don't expect someone

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread the pickle
At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote: Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust housing, and get me the unobtainium data sheet for the OKI 6260 used circa 1990, and we'll talk. You mean like one of these? http://msvorinich.itgo.com/Jan0703.html eBay says rebuilt HX-35s are about

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-03 Thread Joseph Davis
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:15:21 -0600, you wrote: From: Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 00:04:08 -0800 Did ST Microelectronics make a compatible processor? If you're not=20 sure, is the 6260 a 20 pin, 8 bit microcontroller or processor?=20 The M6260A is a support chip

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-03 Thread Dave Lee
Guys, please take this OFF the list. It has nothing to do with compact macs. I could care less about your little stories of NEC AIC whatever. Email each other privately but don't broadcast your little conversatons. Isn't there a moderator on this list? Hello? Thanks, Dave The M6260A is

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread Robert Patterson
Hi, Could somebody please explain what this thread is about, and how it relates to Vintage Macs? Thanks! Rob At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote: Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust housing, and get me the unobtainium data sheet for the OKI 6260 used circa 1990,

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread Dave Lee
Hey Pickle, I can't remember what model of the compact mac the HX-35 is. Clue me in will you? Or get a clue yourself, maybe the HX-35 is not a compact mac?! H. --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote: Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread Dave Lee
I agree. Guys, get it off the list. I'm tired of wading through all your crap. --- Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Could somebody please explain what this thread is about, and how it relates to Vintage Macs? Thanks! Rob At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread Dave Lee
This discussion is off topic. Remember we are talking about the Macintosh here, OK? Get a clue losers! --- Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:47:57 -0500, you wrote: At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote: Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-03 Thread Joseph Davis
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:07:42 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Guys, please take this OFF the list. It has nothing to do with compact macs. I could care less about your little stories of NEC AIC whatever. Email each other privately but don't broadcast your little conversatons. Isn't there a moderator

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-03 Thread Kirk D. Garber
Attn: Dave Lee-- Hear, Hear! You tell 'em, Dave! On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:09:19 -0800 (PST) Dave Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. Guys, get it off the list. I'm tired of wading through all your crap. --- Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Could somebody

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-03 Thread Kirk D. Garber
From what I've seen in the Faq's, etc., apparently there Isn't a moderator on this list! On Fri, 04 Apr 2003 00:45:22 -0800 Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:07:42 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Guys, please take this OFF the list. It has nothing to do with compact

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-02 Thread the pickle
At 01:51 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:28:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote: --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a ROM dump and financial incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll have it fixed inside of a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-02 Thread Joseph Davis
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:53:26 -0500, you wrote: At 01:51 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:28:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote: --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a ROM dump and financial incentive and if this problem

Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-02 Thread Jeff Walther
From: Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:23:43 -0800 Name your price ;) Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust housing, and get me the unobtainium data sheet for the OKI 6260 used circa 1990, and we'll talk. Did ST Microelectronics make a compatible processor? If

Re: Eclectic Stuff; Was: LC Road Apple

2003-04-02 Thread Joseph Davis
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:30:50 -0600, you wrote: From: Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:23:43 -0800 Name your price ;) Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust housing, and get me the unobtainium data sheet for the OKI 6260 used circa 1990, and we'll talk. Did ST

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-01 Thread Robert Gray
At 00:09:08 -0500 on 4/1/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 00:06 -0500 on 01/04/03, Robert Gray wrote: At 07:43:41 -0500 on 3/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote: I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32... a little file

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-01 Thread the pickle
At 21:28 -0500 on 01/04/03, Robert Gray wrote: That doesn't explain why a half dozen Mac hackers never came up with a trivial software solution. If it were doable, it would have been They don't work for Apple? You'd think someone could write a browser for System 6, too, but nobody's done that

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a ROM dump and financial incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll have it fixed inside of a week. Finding the competent programmer is going to be the difficult (read: impossible) part. Naw,

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-04-01 Thread the pickle
At 19:28 -0800 on 01/04/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a ROM dump and financial incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll have it fixed inside of a week. Finding the competent programmer is going to

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-31 Thread Robert Gray
I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32... a little file that you stick in your extensions folder. If the solution were that trivial, the question never would have come up. :-) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-31 Thread the pickle
At 22:53 -0600 on 30/03/03, Jeff Walther wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:42:13 -0500 From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote: Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a 33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-31 Thread the pickle
At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote: I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32... a little file that you stick in your extensions folder. If the solution were that trivial, the question never would have come up. :-) What's the bet Connectix might have had something,

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-31 Thread Robert Gray
At 07:43:41 -0500 on 3/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote: I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32... a little file that you stick in your extensions folder. If the solution were that trivial, the question never would have

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-31 Thread the pickle
At 00:06 -0500 on 01/04/03, Robert Gray wrote: At 07:43:41 -0500 on 3/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote: I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32... a little file that you stick in your extensions folder. If the solution were

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: various people wrote What's the bet Connectix might have had something, but Apple didn't want them to release it and bought it off them? Conspiracy theory. I like it. :-) Another 200 mpg carburetor. Any company willing to write the ROMs

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread Adam
For instance, if a computer has 2 MB on the motherboard and accepts two 4 MB SIMMs (but nothing larger), there's no reason in the world to create ROMs that can support more than 10 MB. There's a huge reason *not* to make a ROM that only supports 10 MB when it's clear that larger SIMMs are

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 18:36 +1000 on 30/03/03, dana sibera wrote: From the (basic) knowledge I have of memory, the number of address lines (column and row) that are either physically connected to the simm socket, or even physically available on the memory controller, comes into play. If the motherboard doesn't have

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread Dan Knight
On 3/28/03 2:17 PM, Adam posted: If this limitation is the the ROM thanks to our friends at Apple, and if it is patchable by someone with the necessary skills, why wouldn't Connectix or someone come out with such a patch. I'm sure they would have sold by the truckload. Sonnet has come out with a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote: Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a 33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory. Ja, but that means it's doable in software. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: FTP Server software; Was: Re: LC Road Apple

2003-03-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I guess my point is: To everyone all over the world who advocates the continuing use of vintage Macs, scratch cheap FTP server off the list of practical uses. You should qualify that with 'cheap FTP server *in MacOS*' -- if you slap your favourite Unix on it, voila, you have a cheap FTP

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread the pickle
At 08:21 +1000 on 31/03/03, Adam wrote: Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a 33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory. Ja, but that means it's doable in software. -- Does it? I'm not completely convinced that being able to do this with an

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:42:13 -0500 From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote: Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a 33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory. Ja, but that means it's doable in software.

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote: Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a 33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory. Ja, but that means it's doable in software. Depends on how the Sonnet

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-29 Thread Steve Conrad
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server, but it works and it

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-29 Thread Dan Knight
On 3/26/03 3:30 PM, Jeff Walther posted: From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need a third choice, I would actually suggest an LC (not an LC II or III), even though LowEndMac declared it a Road Apple. Though it is essentially a repackaging of the Mac II (it has a 68020), If the LC

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-29 Thread the pickle
At 20:30 -0600 on 29/03/03, Steve Conrad wrote: I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-29 Thread the pickle
At 21:24 -0500 on 29/03/03, Dan Knight wrote: On 3/26/03 3:30 PM, Jeff Walther posted: From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need a third choice, I would actually suggest an LC (not an LC II or III), even though LowEndMac declared it a Road Apple. Though it is essentially a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Fletch Brendan Good
Speaking of all this- who can point me to some free software I can use to run such an FTP server using a IIci running System 7? Heck, forget free-- can someone point me to ANY software that'll let me run an FTP server on a IIci? I spent a good while at Version Tracker last night, and couldn't

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Norbert van Bemmel
Speaking of all this- who can point me to some free software I can use to run such an FTP server using a IIci running System 7? Heck, forget free-- can someone point me to ANY software that'll let me run an FTP server on a IIci? I spent a good while at Version Tracker last night, and couldn't

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Fletch Brendan Good
If you switch to the free OS NetBSD you'll have a ftpserver for nothing. Installing it is fairly complicated but an interesting experience. It works fine on a MacIIci. I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm already installing MkLinux onto a 7200... I was really hoping for something simpler on

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 18:15 -0500 on 28/03/03, Fletch Brendan Good wrote: If you switch to the free OS NetBSD you'll have a ftpserver for nothing. Installing it is fairly complicated but an interesting experience. It works fine on a MacIIci. I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm already installing MkLinux onto a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server, but it works and it

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread the pickle
At 16:59 -0800 on 28/03/03, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server, but it

FTP Server. Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Might find something on http://mac.tucows.com = Why do Zik-Zak Burgers come in plastic packs? Some of the plastic rubs off on them and increases their nutritional value! Max Headroom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE... There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-27 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip So, someone sneak on over to Apple and appropriate those files, okay? And while you're there get the Bandit and Hammerhead designs too, would you? Don't forget the Mr. Clean 32bit clean ROMs for the SE/30, Mac II etc. that Apple used for

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-27 Thread Robert Gray
[Slamming Apple for the way they developed their line of computers and for not providing expandability.] I think Apple knew what they were doing. For every geek there are probably 30 users who just want to do a little word processing, send some email, surf the web, and maybe make a bithday

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-27 Thread Steve Conrad
I have an LCIII I am trying to decide what to use for... Dave Make yourself a nice Email or FTP server (if an FTP server is the way you go you can make us mac fans yet another site to find software). Steve Steve Conrad 810 Main Henrietta, MO 64036 816-494-5692

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-27 Thread Dave Lee
Don't I need some kind of static-IP address for that? I don't think Concast Cable Internet offers that. --- Steve Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an LCIII I am trying to decide what to use for... Dave Make yourself a nice Email or FTP server (if an FTP server is the way you go

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-27 Thread Fletch Brendan Good
Don't I need some kind of static-IP address for that? I don't think Concast Cable Internet offers that. You can use a service like dyndns.org or no-ip.com to redirect people to your FTP or web server when you have a dynamic IP address. I think it might involve using a browser to log into their

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-27 Thread the pickle
At 10:17 -0800 on 27/03/03, Dave Lee wrote: Don't I need some kind of static-IP address for that? I don't think Concast Cable Internet offers that. You definitely don't need static IPs for it, but you might want a Dynamic DNS client. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Re: LC Road Apple

2003-03-27 Thread David Robarts
I think Apple knew what they were doing. For every geek there are probably 30 users who just want to do a little word processing, send some email, surf the web, and maybe make a bithday card for grandma. They buy a computer, use for several machine-generation, and aren't the least bit

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wooo. I wouldn't go on about this so much, but this is a pet peeve of mine about Apple. They release models that are handicapped beyond the requirements of any cost savings.By that, I mean that for the same money, and using pretty much

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which says to me patch it! There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in software to get around the limitation. Even if it only allowed the use of low-profile 16 MB SIMMs, that would more than triple the current RAM cap and make the LC and LC II a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread the pickle
At 02:05 -0800 on 26/03/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which says to me patch it! There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in software to get around the limitation. Even if it only allowed the use of low-profile 16 MB SIMMs, that would more than triple

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I know many people who would run right out and slap the money down for a G4/Dual G4 with AGP Pro and six or more PCI slots, no matter what it cost, because that is what they want. I'd buy one in a New York minute. I'm already nearly out of slots on my dual 1.25GHz G4. To bring this back on

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Todd Russell
Speaking of the topic of expandability, I also find it downright maddening how Apple continues bottlenecking the expandability options. The first Mac I ever even saw in person was the Grape iMac(I'm serious, we used TRS80s and DOS PCs when I was in school), and I hated it because, where was I

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Fletch Brendan Good
Anyway, don't dishonor the Mac II, which was a fine machine for its day, by saying that the LC is a close relative. :-) OK, OK, I see that I deserved that, at least to some extent, for having made the mistake of closely comparing the LC and the II. I was paraphrasing Everymac.com and some

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:26:56 -0500 From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad Anyway, don't dishonor the Mac II, which was a fine machine for its day, by saying that the LC is a close relative. :-) OK, OK, I see that I deserved

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Jeff Walther
At 15:30 -0500 03/26/2003, Vintage Macs wrote: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:18:07 -0500 From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the ROM was simply coded to ignore the extra RAM, the patching is trivial. Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to squeeze the IIsi ROM in there and see what happens... If

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Dave Lee
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My objection is that Apple built machines that sucked a lot more than they had to for the same cost in parts. A simple change to the LC would be to get rid of the memory limitation. That would not increase the cost. Adding a 32 bit data path

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Dave Lee
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to squeeze the IIsi ROM in there and see what happens... IIsi ROMs can be placed inside SE/30s to make them 32 bit clean. I don't know if the LC has socketed ROM. I have an LCIII I am trying to decide what to use

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread the pickle
At 19:42 -0600 on 26/03/03, Jeff Walther wrote: At 15:30 -0500 03/26/2003, Vintage Macs wrote: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:18:07 -0500 From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the ROM was simply coded to ignore the extra RAM, the patching is trivial. Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to squeeze the

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip And you know, I just noticed that the IIfx itself is a one-bullet Road Apple- at the same time they rated it a Best Buy! Go figure. That's because of the funky 64pin SIMMs and the fact that the PDS is useless unless you stumble onto a

LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-25 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:46:52 -0500 From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new 68k for Dad If you need a third choice, I would actually suggest an LC (not an LC II or III), even though LowEndMac declared it a Road Apple. Though it is essentially a repackaging of the Mac II (it

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-25 Thread Adam
. Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes up to 10 MB.What's up with that? It's not even a power of 2. Apple must have done something seriously stupid in the ROM and/or the memory map, because that's not the kind of number you're likely to get from a

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-25 Thread the pickle
At 03:50 +1000 on 25/03/03, Adam wrote: . Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes up to 10 MB.What's up with that? It's not even a power of 2. Apple must have done something seriously stupid in the ROM and/or the memory map, because that's not the kind of

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-25 Thread Adam
Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes up to 10 MB. snip The 10Mb RAM limit was deliberately programmed into the LC's ASICs. Which says to me patch it! There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in software to get around the limitation. That would rock,

Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad

2003-03-25 Thread the pickle
At 04:05 +1000 on 25/03/03, Adam wrote: That would rock, but, is the limitation actually programmed into the ROM? Or is it built into the memory controller or some other inaccessable location? No one really knows for sure, but I suspect the ROM. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml