Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

Von: Daniel Rocha An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 4:13 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed > Maybe it is the case of cooling the experiment with liquid nitrogen, to avoid > self i

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

IF you can confine a few thousand electrons in a small enough volume, then the coulomb barrier in that small volume would be reduced enough for fusion tunneling to occur. There are a number of ways to confine a group of electrons for the required time interval. One way is to use electron/phonon

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

Average European commute is ca. 33 minutes. That is perhaps something like <8 miles. I have less than 25 minutes if walking to the parking lot is accounted. As Xavier pointed out this problem with cities is mostly American problem due to bad city design. Other problem is with the distribution

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Eric, The plasmon conduction electrons in nanowires can be very "heavy" - i.e., they possess a huge "effective mass" when they impact a particle in the direction of the current flow (- but not in orthogonal directions.) Similar to a light metal plate that penetrates a strong barrier because it is

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

Well, depending on the theory, CF can be much hotter than those of Tokamaks... 2012/4/6 Jones Beene > >From: Daniel Rocha > >That's the energy excitation corresponding Debye temperature > in palladium at 275K. That's odd. > Jones Beene wrote: >

RE: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

From: Daniel Rocha That's the energy excitation corresponding Debye temperature in palladium at 275K. That's odd. Jones Beene wrote: This begs the question: why would 15-22 THz, in theory, couple with Ni-H in a gainf

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

That's the energy excitation corresponding Debye temperature in palladium 275K. That's odd. 2012/4/5 Jones Beene > This begs the question: why would 15-22 THz, in theory, couple with Ni-H in > a gainful way when higher radiation (lasers light) or lower (microwaves) > would not do anywhere near

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Abd, You are right - I did not intend to sound dogmatic. I am beginning to wonder whether a couple of different phenomena, perhaps sharing a common denominator, are occurring - depending on experimental materials and procedures. Nature may be getting a little perverse here. The Wendt-Irion expl

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Gamma sources could be placed so that gammas pass through the supposedly > active heavy electron patches, and, if W-L theory is real, drastic > attenuation should be seen. That attentuation should not be seen with > controls. W-L theory re

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

The idea was doing something cheap, right? 2012/4/5 > Why not use a carbon dioxide laser? > > At 04:05 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >The problem would be the output. The low energy > >tail would have also a very low power. I think a > >specialized equipment for that band is required... > >

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

Maybe it is the case of cooling the experiment with liquid nitrogen, to avoid self interference with the experiment. 8THz blackbody is a peak around 140K, so 71K is far away from that peak. 2012/4/5 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > At 12:30 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> If you are not concerned wi

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

At 05:15 PM 4/5/2012, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com > "Jones, Sure, some of those experiments produce hot plasmas, but there are many experimental results which appear to produce transmutations with temperatures too low to produce collisions energeti

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

At 04:37 PM 4/5/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: My suggestion is that transmutations be the litmus test for LENR - not the calorimetry results which never seem definitive enough for everyone. If the reported successful experiments were well conducted, then they will be reproducible. There

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

Why not use a carbon dioxide laser? At 04:05 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: >The problem would be the output. The low energy >tail would have also a very low power. I think a >specialized equipment for that band is required... > -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax To: v

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

At 04:05 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: The problem would be the output. The low energy tail would have also a very low power. I think a specialized equipment for that band is required... 2012/4/5 Jones Beene Hey Daniel – instead of straight wide spectrum low IR - why not add a special fi

RE: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > Sweeping up from 3 THz or so, Letts found no effect until 8 THz. He got the most pronounced effects at 15 and 22 THz. OK, got it. That puts this into very difficult territory. This spectrum 15-22 THz is the upper end of the so-called "tera

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Abd, I intend to do some more research on this - plasmonics is pretty dicey. I'm not sure whether a nanowire has a cross-section large enough to scatter gammas originating at any significant distance, thoug, unless they are extremely collimated. But, I am more optimistic than you are that W-L wo

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Jones, Good points. I do not know the Oppenheimer-Phillips effect. I will research it tonight. There could be a number of confounding effects that coexist. Our tendency to look for a relativistic collision behind every nuclear event (except radioactivity) could be the problem. Lou Pagnucco Jon

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

At 03:29 PM 4/5/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Abd, Regarding the absence of gammas - ... is it reasonable to suppose that a high energy gamma would experience many (anomalously high) dissipative Compton collisions before escaping as a less energetic photon? If this is plausible, could we

RE: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

At 02:56 PM 4/5/2012, Jones Beene wrote: Hey Daniel – instead of straight wide spectrum low IR - why not add a special filter to a tuned resistance heater electrode to get some kind of pseudo coherence? Here is a pretty steep spike at 2 THz: http://ww

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

-Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com > "Jones, Sure, some of those experiments produce hot plasmas, but there are many experimental results which appear to produce transmutations with temperatures too low to produce collisions energetic enough for fusion"... Lou - yes tha

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

At 12:31 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: BTW, this resembles the stuff Rossi claims to use... I don't think so. However, sure. Maybe the band heater that Rossi uses is actually an IR source. However, I'm not willing to base anything on anything from Rossi, until and unless it is independen

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

At 12:30 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: If you are not concerned with a narrow broad band, you could use a blackbody emission. According to Wien's displacement law, 14.8THz to 22.5THz, http://en.wikipedia.

RE: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

At 12:22 PM 4/5/2012, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > Any brainstorming, especially informed, on how to generate the THz stimulation will be appreciated. Contact: Virginia Diodes Inc. (434) 297-3257 www.vadiodes.com/ THz Mixers, Multipliers, Systems

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Jones, Sure, some of those experiments produce hot plasmas, but there are many experimental results which appear to produce transmutations with temperatures too low to produce collisions energetic enough for fusion - unless the energy is focused and "hidden" in infinitesimal volumes. My suggest

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

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Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

I was referring to "explanations" by "proponents" or others, justifying W-L theory in the face of serious objections (not the pseudoskeptical "it's impossible" objections, but the real thing). Goatguy, there, does come up with some of what I've mentioned, plus other stuff. He's focusing on NiH,

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

The problem would be the output. The low energy tail would have also a very low power. I think a specialized equipment for that band is required... 2012/4/5 Jones Beene > Hey Daniel – instead of straight wide spectrum low IR - why not add a > special filter to a tuned resistance heater electrod

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Abd, Regarding the absence of gammas - Don't nanoscale currents store far more inductive momentum/energy than macro currents do per conduction electron? For example, see - "Low Frequency Plasmons in Thin Wire Structures" - JB Pendry http://www.cmth.ph.ic.ac.uk/photonics/Newphotonics/pdf/wires.pd

RE: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

Hey Daniel - instead of straight wide spectrum low IR - why not add a special filter to a tuned resistance heater electrode to get some kind of pseudo coherence? Here is a pretty steep spike at 2 THz: http://www.insight-product.com/mesh3.htm Low terahertz might work, no? Doubt if they go ve

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Von: "integral.property.serv...@gmail.com" An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:22 Donnerstag, 5.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation >Great to see you all back from the future to reality. >This is a challenge for you. Are you al

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax An: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 18:34 Donnerstag, 5.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation >And I still have seen no expanation, anywhere, of the basic problems with W-L >theory. Abd

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

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Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Well, it is a slick presentation, glossy and well-prepared - and very > convincing for LENR in a most superficial way. Consultant's motto: "It always works in the PowerPoint presentation." T

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Xavier Luminous wrote: > As hinted at by Jed and Eric, the problems you are describing are very > US-centric, and I don't think flying cars are the way to address them. Jed and I live in Atlanta. The average one-way commute in Atlanta is 33 miles. Mine is 25 mi

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

BTW, this resembles the stuff Rossi claims to use... 2012/4/5 Daniel Rocha > If you are not concerned with a narrow broad band, you could use a > blackbody emission. According to Wien's displacement law, 14.8THz to > 22.5THz, > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien%27s_displacement_law#Frequency

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

If you are not concerned with a narrow broad band, you could use a blackbody emission. According to Wien's displacement law, 14.8THz to 22.5THz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien%27s_displacement_law#Frequency-dependent_formulation gives 251K to 387K. So, a resistive heater would give you the up

RE: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > Any brainstorming, especially informed, on how to generate the THz stimulation will be appreciated. Contact: Virginia Diodes Inc. (434) 297-3257 www.vadiodes.com/ THz Mixers, Multipliers, Systems Jones

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

20 x 10 exp 12 hertz times 50 x 10 exp -9 = one megahertz meter Someday even Jones and Stevek will believe me. Frank Znidarsic -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax To: vortex-l ; vortex-l Sent: Thu, Apr 5, 2012 12:38 pm Subject: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, c

[Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

I've been looking at: Letts, D. and P.L. Hagelstein. Stimulation of Optical Phonons in Deuterated Palladium. in ICCF-14 International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2008. Washington, DC. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LettsDstimulatio.pdf This work has not received adequate att

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

At 08:59 AM 4/5/2012, Jones Beene wrote: This is hot, so to speak. Cough, cough ... that can be understood in a slightly derogatory way. Well, it is a slick presentation, glossy and well-prepared - and very convincing for LENR in a most superficial way. Cheerleaders for W-L, like Steve Krivit wi

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 03:56:56PM +0100, Robert Lynn wrote: > Flying cars can eliminate the need for cities, and many of the problems > that cities create: > -crime and other social problems arising from lack of community > -hugely expensive housing driven by high land prices > -wasted lives commu

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

Flying cars can eliminate the need for cities, and many of the problems that cities create: -crime and other social problems arising from lack of community -hugely expensive housing driven by high land prices -wasted lives commuting -environmental issues from high population densities -expensive an

Re: [Vo]:Yet another flying car

Drowning Trout wrote: Evacuated Tube Transports would be way more beneficial than flying cars. > This is similar to the proposed SwissMetro project. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

This is hot, so to speak. Cough, cough ... that can be understood in a slightly derogatory way. Well, it is a slick presentation, glossy and well-prepared - and very convincing for LENR in a most superficial way. Cheerleaders for W-L, like Steve Krivit will be quick to heap on the praise. Put on

[Vo]:Diary of a Mad Scientist

Actually it's a movie: http://joedavisthemovie.com/ Just how mad is he? "In another sexually charged example of performance art Davis sets out to correct what he feels is a case of censorship in scientists’ efforts to communicate with extraterrestrials. He explains that researchers have sent im