Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
>From the video, I gather Deneum is are trying to measure heat with a single thermocouple on the outside of the reactor. This is a bad idea. As I said in the paper, you should use a calorimeter. If they were to get ~100 W of excess heat I suppose they could detect it with a single thermocouple,

RE: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-06 Thread JonesBeene
If one were to look closely at the “replication” as it has proceeded thus far – there are already several significant variations from Mizuno’s procedure, besides the lack of RGA/MS. The heater is not the same – the silver solder was not in the original, the water used to rinse was not the

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
JonesBeene wrote: > > You seem to be missing the point… and adding a dose of silly pedantry to > boot. > > > > The goal here is to clean and completely degas the reactor --- NOT to > learn the identity of the last bit of gas which was removed. > Mizuno and other experts have told me that

RE: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-06 Thread JonesBeene
You seem to be missing the point… and adding a dose of silly pedantry to boot. The goal here is to clean and completely degas the reactor --- NOT to learn the identity of the last bit of gas which was removed. If they have a top of the line vacuum system, as appears to be the case - and

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
JonesBeene wrote: It is unwise and too early to belittle this fine effort . . . > I am not belittling it. I am pointing out that they are not following the recipe. They are not doing it the way Mizuno recommended. If it works, more power to them. If it does not work, we will not know why. >

RE: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-06 Thread JonesBeene
It is unwise and too early to belittle this fine effort, given their recent history of success with titanium electrolysis – where Deneum has already reported high levels of excess heat. Apparently - their past success was unknown to those who are quick to be critical. These researchers are

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:36 PM JonesBeene wrote: > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRt3fa4lfU > > > > They are doing a professional job but nothing anomalous is showing up so > far. > At LENR-forum this person stated that they do not have a mass spectrometer. So they are not doing a

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Look should read long. On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 11:26 PM Axil Axil wrote: > Did Mizumo or Rothwell ever say how look it takes for the LENR reaction to > activate in the R20 at initaliation? > > By the way, the formation of ultra dense matter in the R20 is an > unsupported assumption. > > On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Did Mizumo or Rothwell ever say how look it takes for the LENR reaction to activate in the R20 at initaliation? By the way, the formation of ultra dense matter in the R20 is an unsupported assumption. On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 11:17 PM JonesBeene wrote: > It is not a big concern that it did not

RE: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-05 Thread JonesBeene
It is not a big concern that it did not work the first time. An extended break-in period could be required. If one subscribes to a ‘dense deuterium’ theory of any kind – then an operational reactor could require a minimum working inventory of dense deuterium before gain is seen. Perhaps they

Re: [Vo]:Deneum early results

2019-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Its not working...did they do something wrong On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:36 PM JonesBeene wrote: > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRt3fa4lfU > > > > They are doing a professional job but nothing anomalous is showing up so > far. >