Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-19 Thread Jay Litwyn
"Todd Allen" wrote in message news:2a34d5a90902162103lfd8202fmcbe76978816f2...@mail.gmail.com... > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Jay Litwyn wrote: >> "Todd Allen" wrote in message >> news:2a34d5a90902152157k5534f173g83c5c67ad6f83...@mail.gmail.com... >> regarding http://www.fractint.org/ >>

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-17 Thread Ray Saintonge
Carcharoth wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > >> Carcharoth wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Sam Korn wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/2/16 Alvaro García: > >>

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Todd Allen
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Jay Litwyn wrote: > "Todd Allen" wrote in message > news:2a34d5a90902152157k5534f173g83c5c67ad6f83...@mail.gmail.com... > regarding http://www.fractint.org/ > (...) >> If the intent of the license is "We could force someone to pay for >> distribution rights at som

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Jay Litwyn
"Todd Allen" wrote in message news:2a34d5a90902152157k5534f173g83c5c67ad6f83...@mail.gmail.com... regarding http://www.fractint.org/ (...) > If the intent of the license is "We could force someone to pay for > distribution rights at some point and deny them those rights if they > don't pay up", i

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Carcharoth wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Sam Korn wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Thomas Dalton >>> wrote: >>> 2009/2/16 Alvaro García : > Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Ray Saintonge
Carcharoth wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Sam Korn wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Thomas Dalton >> wrote: >> >>> 2009/2/16 Alvaro García : >>> Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't paid? >>> No... the "free" part sho

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Alvaro García
Oh Oh Oh sorry!!! Gratis. That happens to me when I do two things at the same time. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:15, Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Alvaro García wrote: > > > Yeah, that was what I meant. That when 'free' is used along with > > 'ware', it's because it's free (li

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Alvaro García wrote: > Yeah, that was what I meant. That when 'free' is used along with > 'ware', it's because it's free (libre). > > > -- > Alvaro > You've just contradicted yourself - you were right the first time. Nathan __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Alvaro García
Yeah, that was what I meant. That when 'free' is used along with 'ware', it's because it's free (libre). -- Alvaro On 16-02-2009, at 10:50, Sam Korn wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> 2009/2/16 Alvaro García : >>> Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Sam Korn wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> 2009/2/16 Alvaro García : >>> Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't paid? >> >> No... the "free" part shows that. The "ware" part shows that it's software... > > But

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Sam Korn
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/2/16 Alvaro García : >> Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't paid? > > No... the "free" part shows that. The "ware" part shows that it's software... But, generally, yes: "freeware" means free-gratis, not free-libre

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/16 Alvaro García : > Oh, but what I mean is that "freeware" means "free (gratis) software", not > "free (libre) software" Indeed, it does. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Alvaro García
Oh, but what I mean is that "freeware" means "free (gratis) software", not "free (libre) software" On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:47, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/2/16 Alvaro García : > > Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't paid? > > No... the "free" part shows that. The "ware"

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/2/16 Alvaro García : > Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't paid? No... the "free" part shows that. The "ware" part shows that it's software... ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this ma

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-16 Thread Alvaro García
Doesn't the -ware suffix only show that the software isn't paid? -- Alvaro On 16-02-2009, at 2:57, Todd Allen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jay Litwyn wrote: >> That's the description of the license on the software from >> http://www.fractint.org/ (requires a FAT32 partition under

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-15 Thread Todd Allen
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jay Litwyn wrote: > That's the description of the license on the software from > http://www.fractint.org/ (requires a FAT32 partition under Windows XP, BTW. > You might need another hard drive or a partition resizer to save anything > from it). > > The following tex

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-15 Thread Alvaro García
Copyrighted Freeware should mean that. It's free, but you may not modify and release it, nor copy it, etc. Just a normal Copyright. -- Alvaro On 09-02-2009, at 21:50, "Jay Litwyn" wrote: > That's the description of the license on the software from > http://www.fractint.org/ (requires a FAT32

Re: [WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-15 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Jay Litwyn wrote: That's the description of the license on the software from http://www.fractint.org/ (requires a FAT32 partition under Windows XP, BTW. You might need another hard drive or a partition resizer to save anything from it). The only things that are

[WikiEN-l] Is "Copyrighted Freeware" CCbySA?

2009-02-15 Thread Jay Litwyn
That's the description of the license on the software from http://www.fractint.org/ (requires a FAT32 partition under Windows XP, BTW. You might need another hard drive or a partition resizer to save anything from it). The following text is probably not as cogent or understandable as just gett