Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-15 Thread Gordon Joly
Thomas Dalton wrote: > Check this out: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6032750 > > It's about social media and education, which is an interesting topic > in itself, but most importantly it contains this line: > > "Wikis are web pages that can be easily edited, the most famous of > which

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-15 Thread Andrew Gray
2010/1/9 Thomas Dalton : > Check this out: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6032750 (...) > No sign of an article about the Ofqual guidance on their website yet, though. It ran in this week's issue: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6033433 -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread Charles Matthews
Brian McNeil wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 18:34 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> 2010/1/10 Charles Matthews : >> >>> Shrug. Admins are never "obliged" to enforce policy if it gives a stupid >>> result. ArbCom are "obliged" to make some sense out of what the policy >>> pages say, bearing i

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread Brian McNeil
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 18:34 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2010/1/10 Charles Matthews : > > Shrug. Admins are never "obliged" to enforce policy if it gives a stupid > > result. ArbCom are "obliged" to make some sense out of what the policy > > pages say, bearing in mind the good of the mission. Aski

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/10 Charles Matthews : > Shrug. Admins are never "obliged" to enforce policy if it gives a stupid > result. ArbCom are "obliged" to make some sense out of what the policy > pages say, bearing in mind the good of the mission. Asking for 1500 > admins to come up with a consensus position is fai

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread Charles Matthews
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2010/1/10 geni : > >> 2010/1/10 Charles Matthews : >> >>> geni wrote: >>> Well so far everything you have described would risk getting you blocked from wikipedia. Probably the most important thing to do is to contact http://en.wikipedia

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/10 geni : > 2010/1/10 Charles Matthews : >> geni wrote: >>> Well so far everything you have described would risk getting you >>> blocked from wikipedia. >>> >>> Probably the most important thing to do is to contact >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects >>>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread geni
2010/1/10 Charles Matthews : > geni wrote: >> Well so far everything you have described would risk getting you >> blocked from wikipedia. >> >> Probably the most important thing to do is to contact >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects >> first. >> > I don't want

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-10 Thread Charles Matthews
geni wrote: > Well so far everything you have described would risk getting you > blocked from wikipedia. > > Probably the most important thing to do is to contact > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects > first. > I don't want to pull rank on this (much), but I ha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Stephen Streater
On 9 Jan 2010, at 21:14, geni wrote: > 2010/1/9 Charles Matthews : >> Thomas Dalton wrote: >>> 2010/1/9 Chris McKenna : >>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: > The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently > writing) is > that "empowerment" is a good b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Brian McNeil
On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 21:14 +, geni wrote: > 2010/1/9 Charles Matthews : > > Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> 2010/1/9 Chris McKenna : > >> > >>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: > >>> > The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is > that "empowerment" is a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread geni
2010/1/9 Charles Matthews : > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2010/1/9 Chris McKenna : >> >>> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: >>> The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is that "empowerment" is a good buzzword, but there is a small, treacherous area to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Charles Matthews
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2010/1/9 Chris McKenna : > >> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: >> >>> The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is >>> that "empowerment" is a good buzzword, but there is a small, treacherous >>> area to explore from a teachers' poin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"- Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Steve Virgin wrote: > > Another thought > > Is the WMFoundation putting out a press release saying 'thanks' to the > thousands of donors who have helped it to hit its global fund raising > targets? Well, there's a massive banner on Wikipedia saying "thanks". I wou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"- Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/9 Steve Virgin : > > Another thought > > Is the WMFoundation putting out a press release saying 'thanks' to the > thousands of donors who have helped it to hit its global fund raising > targets? > > If it isn't, shouldn't we be doing it? I'm not sure about a press release. The WMF will be e

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/9 Chris McKenna : > On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: >> >> The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is >> that "empowerment" is a good buzzword, but there is a small, treacherous >> area to explore from a teachers' point of view: accounts for minors >> sho

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Chris McKenna
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: > > The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is > that "empowerment" is a good buzzword, but there is a small, treacherous > area to explore from a teachers' point of view: accounts for minors > should not give personal details, s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"- Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Steve Virgin
t;Charles Matthews" Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:09 AM To: Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"-Telegraph> Thomas Dalton wrote: >> Check this out: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6032750 >> >> It's about soci

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-09 Thread Charles Matthews
Thomas Dalton wrote: > Check this out: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6032750 > > It's about social media and education, which is an interesting topic > in itself, but most importantly it contains this line: > > "Wikis are web pages that can be easily edited, the most famous of > which

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
Check this out: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6032750 It's about social media and education, which is an interesting topic in itself, but most importantly it contains this line: "Wikis are web pages that can be easily edited, the most famous of which is Wikipedia, the world's larges

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-08 Thread Michael Peel
The Times Educational Supplement contacted WMUK today about the ofqual guidance, with an urgent deadline to meet (2.30pm). I explained to them that the information they provide is good, and that Wikipedia is a great starting point, and a stepping stone to learning more (emphasising the refe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
2010/1/7 Steve Virgin : > As a Board member I personally believe we should be attempting to promote > our Schools Project here and that should sit at the heart of any release. I don't disagree that this is an opportunity to mention our project, but I don't think it should be the heart of the relea

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-07 Thread Charles Matthews
Steve Virgin wrote: > > As a Board member I personally believe we should be attempting to > promote our Schools Project here and that should sit at the heart of > any release. Feel free to wrap any or all your very valid points below > inside and around the idea/goal of the project, should you a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

2010-01-07 Thread Steve Virgin
eam up' with anyone and everyone in drafting anything - just mail me Best to al Steve -- From: "Douglas Gardner" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:09 PM To: ; Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoi