RE: [313] Re: glasgow 313ers

2001-04-10 Thread Andrew Wilson
:::
:::Hey all, I am going to be the trekking the Highlands of Scotland
:::(mainly Glasgow) from April 21-28 ...
:::
:::Sorry for being bitchy, but come on man ... Glasgow in the Highlands??!
:::Can suggest a good place to buy an atlas and a guide book if 
:::you'd like ;
:::
:::tungin cheek

yeah everyone knows if you want highlands you go to edinburgh :)

andrew


Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?

2001-04-10 Thread Phonopsia
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  Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen
 I always thought Flexitone was just Brendan, but Mr Gillen is the main
 brain behind Ectomorph. G Donald, I could tell you but then I'd have to
 kill you.

There was also another Flexitone on Planet E which was more of a
straight-forward electro effort IMO. I sold it a while back, but I'd
probably buy it again if I saw it now.

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Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?

2001-04-10 Thread scott mcgill
What about
Patrick Pulsinger (is cheap still going?)
Steffan Robbers
Chance McDermott
Ron Maney (DJ Skull)

haven't heard much on these for a while.

SMc



RE: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?

2001-04-10 Thread Batory, Jason
Stefan Robbers is definately alive and kickin. He's got a new ep out on his
own label FWD: under the pseudonym Sierra Romeo. It's deep, ambient, glitchy
stuff. He also recently had an ep out on Ifach.

Cheap is still around. There was an ep late last year called Hoping by
Louie Austin which I belive was co-produced by Patrick - not sure if
anything has been released since that. There's also the offshoot label Super
Cheap.

Respect
JasonB

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 What about
 Patrick Pulsinger (is cheap still going?)
 Steffan Robbers
 Chance McDermott
 Ron Maney (DJ Skull)
 
 haven't heard much on these for a while.
 
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BC 09/suggestions

2001-04-10 Thread Scotto
I was woundering if anyone could suggest other BC records that are in the
vien of this one. both tracks are really good. I have not had a chance to
hear other BC records (well one but it was not like this one) so any advice
would help me here.

I'm also interested in any other german or detroit labels that have this
sound.

maybe private replies are in order here???
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http://www.ampcast.com/imagine



the beta lounge record club

2001-04-10 Thread ian raikow


we'll be closing registration on the Beta Lounge Record Club in a few 
days, so take a look if you haven't already done so:


http://www.betalounge.com/club/

the perfect solution for that certain someone who's always asking you 
for mix tapes, or if you happen to have a little cash left over after 
visiting your local shop forward the URL to friends and family.


-ian.


RE: [313] Dj Heather

2001-04-10 Thread cTH
  Is there any info that anyone here can offer about
 Dj
  Heather.

 Heather played in London last autumn at Derrick
 Carter's Classic night, the
 first I've heard of her. She was very good.if
 you like the D.Carter
 sound, you'll like Heather.that is, if it's the
 same person.


Yes yes...Love CArter and have sen Heather play.

She is more a fave for me than Mr Carter. PLayes alot
tougher and that i so much what I look forward to
hearing being predominantly a techno dj.

I was just curious as to whether anyone knew of any
output she might have made recently.

Albums?
Mix Cds?
Interviews?
Imagery???

I have a link regarding Superjane if anyone here is
interested but y'know, once you have read it yall
you've read it.

Know what i mean...

anyway..

http://www.citypaper.com/2000-08-30/music.html

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RE: [313] Dj Heather

2001-04-10 Thread Michael Kim


i have a mix cd called 'tangerine' by dj heather.  let me know if you want 
the tracks.


Mike


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Dj Heather
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT)

  Is there any info that anyone here can offer about
 Dj
  Heather.

 Heather played in London last autumn at Derrick
 Carter's Classic night, the
 first I've heard of her. She was very good.if
 you like the D.Carter
 sound, you'll like Heather.that is, if it's the
 same person.


Yes yes...Love CArter and have sen Heather play.

She is more a fave for me than Mr Carter. PLayes alot
tougher and that i so much what I look forward to
hearing being predominantly a techno dj.

I was just curious as to whether anyone knew of any
output she might have made recently.

Albums?
Mix Cds?
Interviews?
Imagery???

I have a link regarding Superjane if anyone here is
interested but y'know, once you have read it yall
you've read it.

Know what i mean...

anyway..

http://www.citypaper.com/2000-08-30/music.html

THORIUM




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Re: [313] New Morgan Geist EP (was Morgan Geist)

2001-04-10 Thread majesty12
Heh, Yes, I'll second that, metro area 3 is a really original sounding
nice, nice record. And this is coming from a devil worshiping techno head,
buy it if you don't have it. I'm just glad someone I respect recommended it
a few months back, Thanks Nick ;) _J.S.
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Subject: [313] New Morgan Geist EP (was Morgan Geist)


 I don't know what Morgan Geist is like as a DJ, but last week I bought
'Metro Area 3' on Environ, and the a-side of that EP is just totally
heavenly.
 It has just totally blown me away from the very first moment I heard it.
It's so utterly beautiful is seems even pointless trying to describe it...
 He has my vote :-)

 RD


 Hello folks!
 
 Can anybody give me a comment about Morgan Geist as a DJ?
 What kind of stuff does he spin?
 Does he play more house or the technoid stuff?
 
 Thanx in advance..
 
 
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Re: [313] BC 09/suggestions

2001-04-10 Thread Jenny Cigarettes
Phylyps trak II is definitely my favorite Basic Channel release, although
they are all - for the most part - variations on a similar theme (the other
one you heard might have been a Jeff Mills remix?). I'd say that you can't
go wrong in picking up any (or indeed all) of the Basic Channel tracks you
can find...

Other labels/projects related to Basic Channel (either labels published by
Basic Channel Publishing or BC related projects)

Chain Reaction (this label that took over when Basic Channel ended)
M (I'm not sure if this constitutes a label in it's own right, or if it's
more of a project on Chain Reaction)
Burial Mix
Imbalance Computer Music
Main Street Records
Rhythm  Sound (label and project)
Quadrant
Din

A few more labels that do that minimal techno and house thing:

M-Plant
Accelerate
Deepchord
Profan (particularly for the Studio1 EPs)
Force Tracks
Playhouse
Max - Ernst


You'll probably get some better replies from others on the list. I really
like this kind of stuff, but pay less attention than I should to who makes
it and how the labels are interconnected. The 'M' series on Chain Reaction /
M is definitely worth investigating (M4 is a particular favorite). Some of
Marco Carola's stuff has that minimal dub sound, as do a lot of Gaz Varley
(G-Man) releases. None of them quite as stripped down / experimental as the
Basic Channel related stuff though.




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Subject: [313] BC 09/suggestions


 I was woundering if anyone could suggest other BC records that are in the
 vien of this one. both tracks are really good. I have not had a chance to
 hear other BC records (well one but it was not like this one) so any
advice
 would help me here.

 I'm also interested in any other german or detroit labels that have this
 sound.

 maybe private replies are in order here???
 Scott Laakso   ---
 ---   imajin/ imagine
 http://www.mp3.com/i_majin
 http://www.ampcast.com/imagine


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vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.

2001-04-10 Thread meta elpH
I like mp3 cds.  You have 10+ hours of music on one
disk.  I'm all for massive amounts of information in a
small package.  Vinyl is big and clunky, it wears out
and you can't store too much on a slab of plastic. 
However for DJs, it (vinyl) may be great, but not for
me.  (Sidenote: I wish people would start releasing
more stuff in a digital format.  That way, I could
compile it into some long mp3 cds.)  

Anyway
I have an mp3 cd that has the following albums on it:

Claude Young - Soft Thru
Vainqueur - Elevations
Surgeon - Force + Form
Aril Brika - Deeparture in Time
Infinity - Skynet
Transmat - Time:Space
Deep Chord
Maurizio
Derrick May - Innovator

. I think it's pretty cool.  The albums are stored
neatly in directories and each song is labeled (used
MusicMatch to encode, it also did most of the naming
for me).  I also have mp3 cds that have full 2 hour
sets from Claude Young, Surgeon, Marco Carola, etc. 
You can't get this from cd or vinyl.

This is where it's at now.  But we need to get yet
another format / or another compression scheme that
will allow for more and higher quality recordings on a
cd sized platform.  One that comes to mind is DVD
Audio..., (maybe vqf for compression???) 

Finally, I listen to these mp3 cds with a portable
player (Rio Volt).  Many car audio manufacturers are
starting to release in-dash mp3 cd / cd players.  I
was looking at the Kenwood 8017.  But my local stereo
shop doesn't have it in yet since it just came out. 
Anyway, imagine driving for 10+ hours and not worry
about changing the disk.  I could drive to Denver on 1
cd!

Is anyone as excited about this stuff as I am?  Just
wondering..   / resume your activities.

meta elpH

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Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.

2001-04-10 Thread Jochem_Peteri


there´s more to vinyl than just the soundquality, keep listening to our stuff
and find out..i don´t release much stuff on cd, otherwise u could hear the
difference...there can b so much more sub and spatial highs because of needle
resonance and stuffbig up to mike from SSR for showin us the way


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RE: [313] Dj Heather

2001-04-10 Thread Gary Girard

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I was a  that same night! I think I can safely say that DJ Heather is the best
female DJ I've heard (it was the only time I've heard her as well) -
unfortunately the same can't be said about Kelly Hand who I heard at Mass last
year. Her mixing was, how you say - poor!

GG




Re: [313] BC 09/suggestions

2001-04-10 Thread berislav oremus

The 'M' series on Chain Reaction /
M is definitely worth investigating (M4 is a particular favorite).

i would not bet that M is on chain reaction, its not.

for BCP compilation look for metal  box on cdnow or amazon, also look for
maurizio you will find m series.
you can find there lots on chain reaction, something from rhytmsound, main
street.

also look for farben aka jan jelinek im not sure you can find tat on cdnow
or amazon. look for herbert.
if you like sound like that you want dan bell`s button down mind on
tresor.(142)

that is about that.

for web site check out circonium.

b.




track id

2001-04-10 Thread berislav oremus
i cant remember track name
video is full of robot dummis in one room that are turning their heads and
arms in they are half coverd with som sheets. s*** i dont know.
i tink its mid 80` song something like disco-electro-pop.

its tearing my head all morning, im about to go mad.

thank you

b.



Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.

2001-04-10 Thread Craig Stodolenak

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there´s more to vinyl than just the soundquality, keep listening to our stuff
and find out..i don´t release much stuff on cd, otherwise u could hear the
difference...there can b so much more sub and spatial highs because of needle
resonance and stuff...


True, vinyl -- or at least new vinyl -- has higher audio dynamics
than CD, but then these enhancements can only be realized with a
proper (and more importantly, properly _tuned_) PA.  Any other
differences between vinyl and CD are due to mastering; processes
which in turn can be encoded to a higher bit and frequency digitization
and saved as files.

So basically what I'm sayin' is that any quality that in the past
was only achievable on vinyl can be done with digital; it just costs
more to reproduce and play.  This is the limiting factor of the moment
but we all understand how these are only temporary obstacles.



- Craig

ps - systems like FinalScratch aren't limited to MP3, but can play
 WAV or AIFFs at any fidelity you choose


Re: [313] track id

2001-04-10 Thread beautiful individual


that sounds suspiciously like 'rock it' by herbie hancock


From: berislav oremus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] track id
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:30:04 +0100

i cant remember track name
video is full of robot dummis in one room that are turning their heads and
arms in they are half coverd with som sheets. s*** i dont know.
i tink its mid 80` song something like disco-electro-pop.

its tearing my head all morning, im about to go mad.

thank you

b.


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RE: [313] track id

2001-04-10 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
Herbie Hancock 'Rockit' me thinks

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 Subject:  [313] track id
 
 i cant remember track name
 video is full of robot dummis in one room that are turning their heads and
 arms in they are half coverd with som sheets. s*** i dont know.
 i tink its mid 80` song something like disco-electro-pop.
 
 its tearing my head all morning, im about to go mad.
 
 thank you
 
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RE: [313] Dj Heather / Derrick Carter

2001-04-10 Thread Gary Girard

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Subject:  RE: [313] Dj Heather / Derrick Carter  (Document link: Gary Girard)

Derrick Carter done the Essential Mix last Saturday with, ahem ... Pete Tong. It
was recorded the previous weekend @ Red no.5 (?) in Chicago. It was an
interesting mix from Carter. When I first turned the radio on I had no idea it
was him playing. There seemed to be a couple of R  B influenced tracks and one
that sounded like speed garage but was still quite good.
 I was surprised also by what I heard from Tong. It didn't actually sound too
bad! I think he tried to carry on his set in the Carter style.
 The night's @ The End with Derrick Carter  DJ Sneak were brilliant, always a
really good party atmosphere. Sneak especially would always pull out some remix
of an eighties record that you haven't heard for ages and had forgotton about.
One time they were playing back to back which doesn't happen often at clubs in
London! I think that's why it was refreshing to have a night that wasn't too
serious where the DJs could just play what they want. It was also good to see
Derrick Carter dancing among the crowd, Sneak smoking the whole place out (you
couldn't hide from that bud!), Armand Van Helden dancing among the crowd, Sasha
(dancing I mean!!), head bloke from Cream ... it's all coming back to me now!
:o)

GG






RE: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.

2001-04-10 Thread Gwendal Cobert
 Is anyone as excited about this stuff as I am?  Just
 wondering..   / resume your activities.
Same goes for me -  bought a DVD player that reads MP3 CDs + have been
owning a Lyra (1 hour of music) for more than one year now... Doesn't
prevent me from still buying CDs to get a really good sound... To me, it's
not bound to replace vinyl, CD or whatever - just one more format, one more
way of listening to music, perfectly adpated to certain situations, not
others...
Gwendal



sample ID (from Axis 11 and BFC's Galaxy)

2001-04-10 Thread .: Caltrop :.
Which Liaisons Dangereuses song did jeff mills and carl craig sampled from 
for axis 11 and bfc galaxy(fragile)?

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RE: [313] But what if vinyl was redundant?

2001-04-10 Thread Steven Taylor

 It would be interesting to see what happened if labels 
 released a full
 vinyl
 version with packaging etc. and a lower priced 'just the 
 mp3s' option.
 
 
 This was done last year with Dave Clarke's 'before I was so rudely
 interrupted' track. 'Released' as an MP3 by iCrunch some time 
 before it was
 issued on vinyl.
 
 http://www.crunch.co.uk/

Yeah I know :) maybe im not getting my point over well, its only in Lieu of
technology like Finalscratch that actually makes this act relevant or
'equal' to releasing the tracks on vinyl.

Steve


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2001-04-10 Thread Markus Miller

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noto -carsten nicolai (de)

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Out of the box

2001-04-10 Thread Wraith313
Hey group!  Has anyone here ever been in contact with a promoter/manager named 
Tim Price from a company called OUTOF-THEBOX?  I have an outdated business card 
of his from last summer and was wondering if anyone had any updated contact 
information.  If so, please respond privately.  Thanks!

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mp3.com

2001-04-10 Thread Wraith313
Hey again group!  

I know that alot of you are anti-mp3ers, but here goes anyways=)

Any artists with mp3.com tracks should email the location of them to me.  I 
plan to make an all [313] station.

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OT help request [for detroit residents]

2001-04-10 Thread jonathan morse
im a financial advisor with morgan stanley (no, this isnt a solicitation) 
and my sales assistant is from detroit. were trying to get some of her high
school yearbook pictures as part of a larger 'prank' and am hoping someone
can help me out here. she went to school in utica and graduated in '94 or
'95

email me privately if you can help or can hook me up with someone who can.

danke.


Re: [313] mp3.com

2001-04-10 Thread Otto Koppius
Wraith313 wrote:
 
 Any artists with mp3.com tracks should email the location of them to me.  I 
 plan to make an all [313] station.

That already exists, created by Tristan/Phonopsia a few months ago:
http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/151/313.html

Cheers,

Otto
PS Some great tracks on there!


off topic, UK 313'ers only

2001-04-10 Thread Jason
I'll apologise right now for this one, total waste of band-width and only
applicable to uk 313'ers, but I think eveyone can see the humour in this.

As some of you may know there is a census coming
around on August the 7th [UK Only].

For those who don't know, a census is where the
government collates general information about its
residents (number of people living in your house,
religion, etc) If there are enough people, who
put down a religion that isn't mentioned on the
census form it becomes a fully recognised and
legal religion. It usually takes about 10,000
people to nominate the same religion. It is for
this reason that it has been suggested that anyone
who does not have a dominant religion to put Jedi
as their religion.

Send this on to all your friends and tell them to
put down Jedi on their census form. And remember
..If you are a member of the Jedi religion then
you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. So if  this has
been your dream since you were 4 years
old.

Do it because you love Star Wars,

If not... then just do it to annoy people.

 May the Force be with you!


jason





RE: [313] off topic, UK 313'ers only

2001-04-10 Thread Steven Taylor
Whether you really want to be a Jedi Knight, or maybe just mock organised
religion it seems like a good idea ;)

 I'll apologise right now for this one, total waste of 
 band-width and only
 applicable to uk 313'ers, but I think eveyone can see the 
 humour in this.
 
 As some of you may know there is a census coming
 around on August the 7th [UK Only].
 
 For those who don't know, a census is where the
 government collates general information about its
 residents (number of people living in your house,
 religion, etc) If there are enough people, who
 put down a religion that isn't mentioned on the
 census form it becomes a fully recognised and
 legal religion. It usually takes about 10,000
 people to nominate the same religion. It is for
 this reason that it has been suggested that anyone
 who does not have a dominant religion to put Jedi
 as their religion.
 
 Send this on to all your friends and tell them to
 put down Jedi on their census form. And remember
 ..If you are a member of the Jedi religion then
 you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. So if  this has
 been your dream since you were 4 years
 old.
 
 Do it because you love Star Wars,
 
 If not... then just do it to annoy people.
 
  May the Force be with you!
 
 
 jason
 
 
 
 
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Re: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?

2001-04-10 Thread g . j . robinson
While this thread is still going, for those in the UK,  Radio 1 has one of the 
Jazzanova crew over for a set on the Giles Peterson show this week (Wednesday 
night I think)

Gary

 bit of an old thread i know, i'm sl o  w   in g down

goldie, grooverider and fabio all cite bug in the bassbin played down at 
rage(?) at heaven on a thursday night as *the* track that got the d and b 
sound going... an that club was the turning point between hardcore and db. 
whether the same goes for the rougher early jungle sounds (93-95)ah juss 
dunno.

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Re: [313] BC 09/suggestions

2001-04-10 Thread Jussi Lehtonen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, berislav oremus wrote:

 for BCP compilation look for metal  box on cdnow or amazon, also look for
 maurizio you will find m series.
 you can find there lots on chain reaction, something from rhytmsound, main
 street.

With Basit Channel, Chain Reaction (etc.) compilations you definetely want
to go for the ones with cardboard casing. Although looking cool, the metal
box is notoriously famous for breaking up the cd inside (and the box
itself ain't that sturdy either...). If I'm not mistaken the metal casing
was used in the first copies and they changed it because of the reasons
mentioned above.




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derrick carter on radio1

2001-04-10 Thread robin pinning
hi all,

not 313 but 312 so sorry...

this is a long shot but did anyone manage to get a tape of derrick
carter on the essential mix on radio1 last saturday?

i can trade another mix if anyone has

cheers

robin...



Re: [313] BC 09/suggestions

2001-04-10 Thread janos
Check out Raum musik.

http://www.raummusik.de/


janos


 Jussi Lehtonen wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, berislav oremus wrote:

 for BCP compilation look for metal  box on cdnow or amazon, also look for
 maurizio you will find m series.
 you can find there lots on chain reaction, something from rhytmsound, main
 street.

With Basit Channel, Chain Reaction (etc.) compilations you definetely want
to go for the ones with cardboard casing. Although looking cool, the metal
box is notoriously famous for breaking up the cd inside (and the box
itself ain't that sturdy either...). If I'm not mistaken the metal casing
was used in the first copies and they changed it because of the reasons
mentioned above.




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demf website

2001-04-10 Thread DJ HEAT
can anyone help me find the demf website? www.demf.org
is not working is this the right site?

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Re: [313] demf website

2001-04-10 Thread Dennis Donohue

www.electronicmusicfest.com


Cheers!




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Subject: [313] demf website
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RE: [313] demf website

2001-04-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
It seems to be down the last couple of days...

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Re: [313] demf website

2001-04-10 Thread Jochem_Peteri


mMmmm, not workin either..


154




Titonton LP/CD

2001-04-10 Thread Nick Walsh
Hi ppl,
it's my duty to remind everyone that Titonton's CD/LP
Selections for Intercourse supposedly came out
yesterday (the 9th). It is great BTW, so at least hear
it even if you don't like Titonton's stuff.

Later,
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Re: [313] mp3.com

2001-04-10 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message -
From: Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [313] mp3.com


 Wraith313 wrote:

  Any artists with mp3.com tracks should email the location of them to me.
I plan to make an all [313] station.

 That already exists, created by Tristan/Phonopsia a few months ago:
 http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/151/313.html

This is kind of a mess - sorry to air dirty laundry, I just want to clarify
what's going on before it gets gross up in here. Up until about a month ago
I was very happy with my relationship with mp3.com. I'm not as happy
anymore. I moved all of my mp3s to ampcast - but I planned on maintaining
the 313 station at mp3.com for the list. Unfortunately, when I asked mp3.com
to delete my files last week, they also deleted my ability to administer the
station. Wraith just asked me to add some of his tracks last week, and when
I tried to add them last night I realized I couldn't log into anything
anymore. This is odd because the station is still up and running, but no one
can make changes to it. I'm not sure why they did this. My songs and the
station were two distinct administrative functions so they shouldn't have
deleted both and I never requested as much. If you've ever tried to get
support from mp3.com for an issue like this, you know it's a waste of time -
so... this leaves us in a bit of a pickle. I encourage any listmembers who
have kept their mp3 sites and will continue to keep them to contact Wraith
and get a new station going. If you're kind of fed up with mp3.com, be
patient for a month or so, and I promise a better option will come your way.
I'll tell you more as I know more.

Thanks!

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RE: [313] off topic, UK 313'ers only

2001-04-10 Thread Gwendal Cobert
looks like promo for the new Tom Middleton mix CD...
Gwendal
 Send this on to all your friends and tell them to
 put down Jedi on their census form. And remember
 .If you are a member of the Jedi religion then
 you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. So if  this has
 been your dream since you were 4 years
 old.
 
 ...Do it because you love Star Wars,
 
 If not... then just do it to annoy people.
 
  May the Force be with you!


Re: [313] minor techno

2001-04-10 Thread simon boddy
Hi crisk

personal fav of mine is `presence` by heiko laux on
kanzleramt 31. It's got a lovely deep feel to it,
althought it may not be minimal enough for you, but
check it out, it truely rocks my word. A very
powerfull and emotional track. Always stays in my box
no matter where I play.

FR1DAY.


crisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hey all,
 
 i'm looking for that minor sound. those minimal
 tracks with eerie, sad,
 minor strings giving them that unmistakenable feel..
 i realized i just
 don't get to hear many such tracks, and so i buy
 only what i manage
 to find.. i gathered the collective knowledge of
 this list could help 
 me with this 'techno educational' project...

 i'll list a few tracks so you could zoom in the
 style i'm after -
 
 mike wade - requiem (b1 on 'first breath' ep /
 archetype)
 jeff mills- if (all three 'if' on the if ep)
 hidden rivals - early days (on the early days ep. /
 brave new world)
 s.l. session  - needle drama [sls' octave mix] (from
 'remixes v1' / cycle)
 mistress barbara - my passion for you (a1 on '666
 fvw' / primevil)
 dave clarke   - parameter (on 'directional force' /
 sonic groove)
  
 these are all the tracks i could find in my box that
 follow this 
 style... obviously a sad testimonial.. but i intend
 to fix that.
 
 recommendations will be highly appreciated...
 
 thanks,
 -- crisk


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Re: [313] minor techno

2001-04-10 Thread george . jones
You probably want to give a listen to anything on Deep Chord. Good stuff
there. I keep DCV08 and DCV09 in my case and manage to fit 'em both into
most of my sets.





simon boddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/10/2001 10:39:15 AM

To:   crisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  Re: [313] minor techno


Hi crisk

personal fav of mine is `presence` by heiko laux on
kanzleramt 31. It's got a lovely deep feel to it,
althought it may not be minimal enough for you, but
check it out, it truely rocks my word. A very
powerfull and emotional track. Always stays in my box
no matter where I play.

FR1DAY.


crisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hey all,

 i'm looking for that minor sound. those minimal
 tracks with eerie, sad,
 minor strings giving them that unmistakenable feel..
 i realized i just
 don't get to hear many such tracks, and so i buy
 only what i manage
 to find.. i gathered the collective knowledge of
 this list could help
 me with this 'techno educational' project...

 i'll list a few tracks so you could zoom in the
 style i'm after -

 mike wade - requiem (b1 on 'first breath' ep /
 archetype)
 jeff mills- if (all three 'if' on the if ep)
 hidden rivals - early days (on the early days ep. /
 brave new world)
 s.l. session  - needle drama [sls' octave mix] (from
 'remixes v1' / cycle)
 mistress barbara - my passion for you (a1 on '666
 fvw' / primevil)
 dave clarke   - parameter (on 'directional force' /
 sonic groove)

 these are all the tracks i could find in my box that
 follow this
 style... obviously a sad testimonial.. but i intend
 to fix that.

 recommendations will be highly appreciated...

 thanks,
 -- crisk


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Re: [313] demf website

2001-04-10 Thread William VanLoo
The correct URL for the fOCUS://DEMF site is indeed:

http://www.electronicmusicfest.com

The site has been down the last few days, and we're currently working on
bringing it back up.

Cheers,

Bill


Jongsma, K.J. wrote:
 
 It seems to be down the last couple of days...
 
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  www.electronicmusicfest.com
 
 
  Cheers!
 
 
 
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  Subject: [313] demf website
  Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
  
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Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Erin Swenson-Healey
I am going to partake in an interview with Billy Nasty this weekend, but, I
don't know much about him aside from the fact that he spins a lot of
drumcode records.

Would anyone here on this list (I realize that he's not exactly a
detroit-native, heh) like me to ask him some questions for them, as I will
post the whole interview sometime next week.

Any help would be appreciated!

Erin Swenson-Healey


R: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread fab137
ask him why the name
LOL
fab
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:23 PM
Subject: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?


 I am going to partake in an interview with Billy Nasty this weekend, but,
I
 don't know much about him aside from the fact that he spins a lot of
 drumcode records.

 Would anyone here on this list (I realize that he's not exactly a
 detroit-native, heh) like me to ask him some questions for them, as I will
 post the whole interview sometime next week.

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Hawtin on Radio 1

2001-04-10 Thread Jason
Couple to look out for on Radio 1 in the next 2 weeks:

Sat 21/04/01

Ess Mix: Richie Hawtin recorded at Sankey's Soap, Manchester

also worth a mention

Thur 19/04/01

One World - Warp records special with live sets from
Tortoise, Autechre and Prefuse 73.

jason





Easter/Music/Windsor- Wicked

2001-04-10 Thread dj revolver

Action packed weekend in Windsor - Here's the digits:
***Event 1***

What: Re-Union (TM and Revolver)and Neksis/313/Windsor Meet
When: Friday, April 13
Where: Amsterdam Lounge, Windsor
Lineup:
10pm-12am - DJ Ben Wu
12am-230am - Trademark and Revolver (tagging and single randomly)
230am-400am - Kyle Jay

***Event 2***

What: Signal 1:04.0 (Thinkbox)
When: Saturday, APRIL 14, 2001
Who:
MARK LALIBERTE (dj set)
M. SCHRAMM (live performance)
THE PROVIDERS (Steve Roy and Mark Schulgan - dj set)
Time: 9pm to 2am
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RE: [313] R: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Simon Dennis
I believe his last name is Nastri, and 'nasty' just
came from there, but i'm sure someone will point
out just how wrong i am.




RE: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Simon Dennis
http://www.dotmusic.com/dance/jocks/April2000/jocks54.asp
http://www.torturedrecords.co.uk/




Checking my mail server - test

2001-04-10 Thread george . jones
Having a few problems with our mail servers, I need to test to see if this
get's back to me or if the servers' rejecting internet mail.

Thanks for your patience.



Re: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Geoffrey Richards

Erin,
  I am curious if he produces music.  Also, what is his tie with tortured 
records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when  i bought a umek 
douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix cd with tortured 
material on it.

-rorschach
ps i got a chance to see him play in manchester, uk in ~oct, 1997, at some 
small club--but most people were at some huge fantasia cheese-core party 
the same night.  tell him some stranger enjoyed his set.




From: Erin Swenson-Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:23:24 -0700

I am going to partake in an interview with Billy Nasty this weekend, but, I
don't know much about him aside from the fact that he spins a lot of
drumcode records.

Would anyone here on this list (I realize that he's not exactly a
detroit-native, heh) like me to ask him some questions for them, as I will
post the whole interview sometime next week.

Any help would be appreciated!

Erin Swenson-Healey

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Mixed Emotions, Friday

2001-04-10 Thread Hodgson, S. R. (Sean)
  This Friday 
  (04-13.-01)
 
   - Mixed Emotions -


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11474 Jos Campau
 Hamtramick, MI


Dj's for the night --- Jes-one(Rockford,IL) www.ibcam.com, 
groove shop 
---  
The Equinox(Detroit, MI)
www.metaphazerecords.com
---  www.ibcam.com
with resident dj - dj Rockwell

!!!

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isolee rmx of Lovlee Dae

2001-04-10 Thread Gee Why

grabbed this from napster

  What label is it on? IS there any chance i can find the vinyl
somewhere?

-Gil
 



Re: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread peter mueller

- Original Message -
From: Geoffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]

: Erin,
:I am curious if he produces music.  Also, what is his tie with
tortured
: records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when  i bought a
umek
: douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix cd with
tortured
: material on it.
: -rorschach
: ps i got a chance to see him play in manchester, uk in ~oct, 1997, at
some
: small club--but most people were at some huge fantasia cheese-core
party
: the same night.  tell him some stranger enjoyed his set.

tortured is his label.

peter



Re: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Perry, Jeff

I beilieve Billy Nasty was involved in the Zoom label releases.  And not
sure,
but maybe Shi-Take material as well.  Good stuff!

 Geoffrey Richards 04/10/01 02:00pm 
Erin,
   I am curious if he produces music.  Also, what is his tie with tortured 
records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when  i bought a umek 
douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix cd with tortured 
material on it.
-rorschach
ps i got a chance to see him play in manchester, uk in ~oct, 1997, at some 
small club--but most people were at some huge fantasia cheese-core party 
the same night.  tell him some stranger enjoyed his set.


From: Erin Swenson-Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:23:24 -0700

I am going to partake in an interview with Billy Nasty this weekend, but, I
don't know much about him aside from the fact that he spins a lot of
drumcode records.

Would anyone here on this list (I realize that he's not exactly a
detroit-native, heh) like me to ask him some questions for them, as I will
post the whole interview sometime next week.

Any help would be appreciated!

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RE: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Brian Dillard
zoom is probably correct, given that he remixed uk avant-pop group saint
etienne's 1992 track join our club into the chemically friendly zoom
mix. ask him about _that_ connection if you think of it.

brian

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I beilieve Billy Nasty was involved in the Zoom label releases.  And not
sure,
but maybe Shi-Take material as well.  Good stuff!

 Geoffrey Richards 04/10/01 02:00pm 
Erin,
   I am curious if he produces music.  Also, what is his tie with tortured 
records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when  i bought a umek 
douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix cd with tortured 
material on it.
-rorschach
ps i got a chance to see him play in manchester, uk in ~oct, 1997, at some 
small club--but most people were at some huge fantasia cheese-core party 
the same night.  tell him some stranger enjoyed his set.


From: Erin Swenson-Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:23:24 -0700

I am going to partake in an interview with Billy Nasty this weekend, but, I
don't know much about him aside from the fact that he spins a lot of
drumcode records.

Would anyone here on this list (I realize that he's not exactly a
detroit-native, heh) like me to ask him some questions for them, as I will
post the whole interview sometime next week.

Any help would be appreciated!

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Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.

2001-04-10 Thread Scotto
 True, vinyl -- or at least new vinyl -- has higher audio dynamics
 than CD, but then these enhancements can only be realized with a
 proper (and more importantly, properly _tuned_) PA.  Any other
 differences between vinyl and CD are due to mastering; processes
 which in turn can be encoded to a higher bit and frequency digitization
 and saved as files.

I think alot of the quality of the audio goes out the window after digital
quantizantion. they say it's an exacte replicas but I don't see how it can
be. particular in the lower bit rates. the high end jest become swishy or
staccato like. I think it's due to the fact the digital picture is very thin
in the 16k and up. (but most people can not hear above 18k as an adult
anyways) as with analog vinyl the signal never stops. but I don't want to
start a dig/analog debate I sure that it has  been play out on this list in
the past.

now I do know that older vinyl the highest frequency is 16.kHz  17 if the
engineer is good. but in the 80's they had some more break through in riaa's
curve for mastering vinyl to get a better bass response and I think they
also boosted the high end up to around 18khz or 19khz? but I don't remember
the audio class I had were we talked about this we pretty boring and I
sometime drifted off to the innerzone.

and as for mp3's the sound quality is not very good at all. unless you
encode at a high bit rate and then whats the point there huge but I really
don't want to go into my dislike of the audio qualities of mp3's. that
debate has been played out here.

Scott Laakso   ---
---   imajin/ imagine
http://www.mp3.com/i_majin
http://www.ampcast.com/imagine



true spirit flashback

2001-04-10 Thread peter mueller
anyone who was in berlin for the tresor birthday weekend last month at the
alltime residents night on thursday, please mail me back privately.

thanks,
peter



Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.

2001-04-10 Thread DJ DMT
And most funny part is the quality
I love claps the in realaudio format
I don't know why but even the 'to polished' tracks tend to sound a bit
gritty and compressed.
I've also heard a lot of mp3 's recordings of 12 inches and they may differ
a lot !
I also love the visuel feedback in the eq in winamp
a real nice welcome tool on mastering and dynamic control
can also make a track nice and gritty

Dj DMT



- Original Message -
From: Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.


  True, vinyl -- or at least new vinyl -- has higher audio dynamics
  than CD, but then these enhancements can only be realized with a
  proper (and more importantly, properly _tuned_) PA.  Any other
  differences between vinyl and CD are due to mastering; processes
  which in turn can be encoded to a higher bit and frequency digitization
  and saved as files.

 I think alot of the quality of the audio goes out the window after digital
 quantizantion. they say it's an exacte replicas but I don't see how it can
 be. particular in the lower bit rates. the high end jest become swishy or
 staccato like. I think it's due to the fact the digital picture is very
thin
 in the 16k and up. (but most people can not hear above 18k as an adult
 anyways) as with analog vinyl the signal never stops. but I don't want to
 start a dig/analog debate I sure that it has  been play out on this list
in
 the past.

 now I do know that older vinyl the highest frequency is 16.kHz  17 if the
 engineer is good. but in the 80's they had some more break through in
riaa's
 curve for mastering vinyl to get a better bass response and I think they
 also boosted the high end up to around 18khz or 19khz? but I don't
remember
 the audio class I had were we talked about this we pretty boring and I
 sometime drifted off to the innerzone.

 and as for mp3's the sound quality is not very good at all. unless you
 encode at a high bit rate and then whats the point there huge but I really
 don't want to go into my dislike of the audio qualities of mp3's. that
 debate has been played out here.

 Scott Laakso   ---
 ---   imajin/ imagine
 http://www.mp3.com/i_majin
 http://www.ampcast.com/imagine


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RE: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Max Duley
 I am curious if he produces music.  Also, what is his tie with
 tortured records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when  i
 bought a umek douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix cd
 wi tortured material on it.

Tortured is Billy's label. He also started the Theramin DJ agency which has
done a lot for UK artists..and of course the Open To Torture nights at
the End, several of which have been quite good.



RE: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?

2001-04-10 Thread Paul McClean

His Electrix label has been producing some pretty good tech-tinged Electro
too. The Marco bailey EP was rather good last month.




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 Subject:  RE: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?
 
  I am curious if he produces music.  Also, what is his tie with
  tortured records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when  i
  bought a umek douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix
 cd
  wi tortured material on it.
 
 Tortured is Billy's label. He also started the Theramin DJ agency which
 has
 done a lot for UK artists..and of course the Open To Torture nights at
 the End, several of which have been quite good.
 
 
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10th yr. anniversary Peacefrog release

2001-04-10 Thread RC
Any of you store owners/workers with more info - eg. track listings for
Peacefrog's 10 year anniversary 5xLP box set, also new Norma Jean Bell on
Peacefrog???


Rc



Re: off topic, UK 313'ers only

2001-04-10 Thread Andy Mitchell
 It usually takes about 10,000
 people to nominate the same religion. It is for
 this reason that it has been suggested that anyone
 who does not have a dominant religion to put Jedi
 as their religion.

Yeah, yeah. This one did New Zealand for our census a couple of months ago.
I know a few Jedi's myself. More interesting was that they removed the word
Pakeha (the Maori term for white people) from the Ethnicity section,
leaving pale skinned folks only the option New Zealand European, which
caused a whole lot more fuss. My ancestors settled New Zealand about a year
after it became a fully fledged country/colony, but I'm still bound by my
(their?) European roots. Go figure...



Detour - Friday 4/13/2001

2001-04-10 Thread george . jones
Just givin you guys a heads up:

Detour @ One X

PH Concepts - Soiree Records - Detroit
Dennis Cox - Toledo
Logic 7 - Labwerx/PlanetRaver - Detroit
Neil V. - Biokidd - Detroit
Breyen Kapla

Drink specials
$5.00 before 11pm

2575 Michigan Ave, Detroit
info: 313-964-0580
http://www.planetraver.com/detour

Not sure what time I'll be going on (I'm Logic7), but come down anyway.



Re: [313] isolee rmx of Lovlee Dae

2001-04-10 Thread Gary Robinson
It's on  Playhouse records
play17  Blaze-Lovelee Dae Rmxs
came as part of a double-pack
maybe try www.hardwax.com for a copy

Gary
 
  
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Subject: [313] isolee rmx of Lovlee Dae


 
 grabbed this from napster
 
   What label is it on? IS there any chance i can find the vinyl
 somewhere?
 
 -Gil
  
 
 
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Brinkmann\Morningstar [LONG]

2001-04-10 Thread Charles Prince
This is a bit of an old thread but I never got around to responding at the
time. I recommend that people check out Philip's interview with TB at:
www.urbansounds.com/us_current/thumbnail/brinkmann_1.html (It inspired me).

TB's Soul Center releases certainly reveal a transformational sampling ethic 
at work that gives rise to tracks sounding anything but weak or tired.
Though a KDJ might initially wonder who in the funk this guy thinks he is,
Brinkmann's stirring conviction (ably shown in his tracks  in the interview), 
that techno represents a very spiritual thing, would surely win him over. 
Respect  empathy mark these projects as a challenging, ritualistic honoring of
Black cultural memory, a form of tribute saturated in funk--the Right\Sh*t. 
As others like Philip, Tristan  Matt have pointed out, this is a case
involving seriously good music, with the sampling of soul classics done in a 
righteous, innovative spirit. Could this be the future 'sound of young America'?

As TB states to Philip, there's a kind of catalytic process, something is 
going through you, the history behind you. This history hovers as sepia-toned 
presence over the second cd's ambiguous back-cover image: an apparently
blood-stained hand of indeterminate color cradles a tiny dove which could be 
newly born, sleeping, or perhaps dead. The hand of fate saving the spirit of 
peace? Peace forever crushed by power/war? Oblique homage to the civil rights 
movement? A reminder of violence past,  still to come, in various struggles? 
Does the photo conjure up a sense of morning or mourning? Hard to say, but
extremely evocative... 

Still, getting back to KDJ's rather intemperate attack in his liner notes to 
'Silent Introduction', I think it is virtually impossible to hear the Soul 
Center recordings  not be struck by their strangeness. Brinkmann accentuates 
the auratic quality of his samples from Stax, Motown, etc., creating a 
distancing effect that permeates the music. This uncanny quality, a 'making
strange' not really due to language differences, finds its center in the 
samples themselves. That's where the soul lives, nurtured by the minimal techno
equivalent of a funk skeleton crew. 

Where does this strangeness come from? Brinkmann's recontextualization of 
disembodied voices  sounds raises parallels with the psycho-sonic occultism of
Coil. The Ester Brinkmann recordings reveal some of the same fervor for arcane 
exploration. 'Klick', with its percussive, malignant-sounding patterns 
--evoking the whirring of spirits--remains his most terrifyingly effective
experiment to my ears. But the emphasis on the auditory as a threshold state of
(psychic) communion achieves startling realization with the unsettled 
unsettling grooves of Soul Center, as well. This house is haunted, Jack.

Perhaps some of the strangeness derives from the unnaturalness of the 
recording process itself. Brinkmann's cryptic approach to sampling ultimately 
has historical ties with the sepulchral character of material sound 
preservation (storing the dead), a practice which paradoxically has as its aim 
the invocation of the spirited, lifelike performance (raising the dead). In 
effect, sonic reproduction relies on the technological ability to (re)incarnate
the absent sound-making agent in an audio format, thus generating the illusion 
of actual presence. When Edison invented the phonograph in 1877, these sound 
reproducers functioned as primitive voice samplers, talking machines, 
were regarded in somewhat magical terms, half-mockingly described as possessing
little humans (or at least automatons), that toiled within their workings.

We still refer to vinyl's 'warmth' when it comes to sonic reproduction today, 
though for many years this aspect was cause for suspicion; the ability to
preserve 'living' spirits  channel them (in mono, then in stereo), carried
sinister overtones for many listeners. After Edison, recording archives rapidly
filled with the songs, sounds  voices of the departed, immortalized in sound 
form, rendered metaphorically undead in spirit,  materializable out of the 
ether at the flick of a switch, or the drop of a needle. Any notion of 'soul' 
takes on extra freight in such a context; it is that which refuses to pass
away, but lives on, an inspiration (or deterrent) to others.

To record was  is always to take a strange, even unnatural stab at
immortality, to send a message into an unknowable future toward the ears of the
as yet unborn. Techno finds much of its impetus here,  resonates closely with 
Breton's maxim that the work of art is valuable only in so far as it is
vibrated by the reflexes of the future. The future constantly listens in, as 
it were, in advance of itself. These Soul Center projects are geared towards 
this future in prophetic, politicized terms, as they forecast a kind of 
inevitable homecoming--despite the unhomely, defamiliarized feel they emit
at present. Perhaps this yearning represents only a strange dream of 

Re: [313] Brinkmann\Morningstar [LONG]

2001-04-10 Thread tristan watkins
That was the most lucid, thoughtful, inspiring and
informed post I've ever read. 

Thank you, 

Tristan 

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Re: [313] Brinkmann\Morningstar [LONG]

2001-04-10 Thread tristan watkins
--- Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a bit of an old thread but I never got
 around to responding at the
 time. I recommend that people check out Philip's
 interview with TB at:

www.urbansounds.com/us_current/thumbnail/brinkmann_1.html
 (It inspired me).

I haven't had a chance to read all of them straight
through yet, but the rest of the interviews with
Stewart Walker, Hawtin, Reich, Taylor Dupree and
Carsten Nicolai also look very good. 

Nice work Phillip! 

Tristan 

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