demf after parties

2001-04-12 Thread T Mind
Any info yet on who will spin or perform on some of the after parties during 
this years demf.




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RE:[313] vinyl - digital

2001-04-12 Thread Max Duley
 Assuming you don't mean ones you've microwaved or baked, it would
 prolly have to
 do with the quality of the laser in it. CDRs tend not to be as
 reflective (at
 least that used to be the case) as regular CDs and don't read as
 easily. Not a
 thing for most newer players.

Most, maybe. I bought a CD player specifically designed to play CDRs and
CDRWs (with a co-ax out so I could copy my CDRs). It does all
that..problem is sometimes it won't play commercially purchased CDs!!
Reckons they're unfinalised.



Re: [313] silly tshirt slogans

2001-04-12 Thread .: Caltrop :.

just to waste another post...

313: we are not related to ...(insert Oakenfold, van Dyke, or Moby)

I'm outta here *puff*!!



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To: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: enlighten 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] silly tshirt slogans
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT)

:/ easy tiger.
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 i've got a new one in the potts spirit...

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Re: [313] vinyl - digital

2001-04-12 Thread Mxyzptlk
Every now and then my Denon rejects a commercial CD...I tracked down an old
Mellowtrons a month ago and to my chagrin it wouldn't play. Does fine in the
car - and usually car players are the finicky ones.
jeff
Max Duley wrote:

  Assuming you don't mean ones you've microwaved or baked, it would
  prolly have to
  do with the quality of the laser in it..



 Most, maybe. I bought a CD player specifically designed to play CDRs and
 CDRWs (with a co-ax out so I could copy my CDRs). It does all
 that..problem is sometimes it won't play commercially purchased CDs!!
 Reckons they're unfinalised.


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Dego at DEMF2000 track ID

2001-04-12 Thread Counterforce - Lay

Haye!

Can someone please ID this track for me? It's on the second Dego set on DEMF
archived in the Groovetech site, and it's this song coming in at around
16:35.
I got really interested in Dego after hearing him and some friends playing
at The End When I went to London. They made me dance all night even though I
wasn't moving :-) Now, *THAT* has some jazz to it... Some of the best music
I've heard in my life, no arguments there...
Oh, and I wouldn't put them in the same boat as Jazzanova, but that's an
opinion...
Thanks in advance. Oh, and this is surely not the last track ID I'm gonna
ask from this set :-)

Lay
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http://barkingcat.org/counterforce




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Re: [313] demf after parties

2001-04-12 Thread Zak-a -licious!!


I know for sure that Terrence Parker is spinning the 430 West Party Sunday 
night.


misszak

Be sure to check out www.TerrenceParker.com, www.TPVibe.8m.com.

Listen to TP's radio show The Dance Emporium at www.MOCRadio.com.

You can join the TP Mailing list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerrenceParkerMusic.

See TP's MOST UP TO DATE DJing Schedule at
http://hometown.aol.com/jovanblade/myhomepage/index.html.

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Any info yet on who will spin or perform on some of the after parties during
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Re: [313] silly tshirt slogans

2001-04-12 Thread Fred Heutte
I was thinking more along the lines of...

313: For Those Who Know Only the Strong Survive

or

313: Only the Strange Remain

or

Be Nice to Me I Subscribe to 313



Re: [313] technasia

2001-04-12 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message -
From: scott mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martijn de Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [313] technasia


 I know that they played a stormer at I Love Techno last year in Belgium
and
 are supposedly doing a live set in London this August time.

Technasia Live in Belgium was a bit normal. I was kind of surprised. Their
live set didn't sound much like their tracks. It was, dare I say, ravey.
That was kind of dissapointing. It was at a 20,000+ people show though, so
take that for what it's worth. It wasn't bad or anything, just not the level
of sonic oddity I would've expected. My Mills devirgining there was quite
pleasant though. :)

Tristan (who needs to catch up on Technasia's newer records)
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Re: [313] BC 09/suggestions

2001-04-12 Thread berislav oremus



Point taken. As I mentioned in the original message I was unclear about the
connection between Chain Reaction and the various Ernestus / Von Oswald
projects due to the large amount of apparently incorrect information
available. My thanks to everyone that has corrected me.

But if we're going to be really nitpicky about this, isn't Domina M3
(having
been preceded by Ploy and Lyot and followed by M4)? Also, wasn't it a 1993
release?



:-) i think this is too long ,there is no point to dig something that is
long time a go clear or unclear to all of us.
thank you
b.



RE: [313] demf after parties

2001-04-12 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Any info yet on who will spin or perform on some of the after 
 parties during 
 this years demf.

I've heard from a verry reliable source that Suburban Knight will play a
liveset at some afterparty. 

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rick wade remix

2001-04-12 Thread Jason
hi there,

Thanks to eveyone who replied to my Juan Atkins enquire, I should be able
to get a copy quite easy (still watching you ani!)

Looking for a remix of a rick wade track, called:

Cool Out on Deep House Music ep on A Touch of Class Records.

Remix has the same hook/ groove but isn't on the above ep, might be a
different artist using the same sample, but I don't think so.

If it helps, Carl Craig played the version I'm after on his Detroit
Technology show (No. 13). And while I'm here, did anyone ever manage to get
a track listing  for the Common Factor Detroit Tech show, still looking for
records off this unbelievable mix.

thanks

jason


Re: [313] track id

2001-04-12 Thread Janne Puurunen
This is a stupid conclusion but I think its Kraftwerks music non stop.

- Janne aka Burdock, betoni. -
http://www.adapteri.com/betoni

 that sounds suspiciously like 'rock it' by herbie hancock
 
 From: berislav oremus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] track id
 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:30:04 +0100
 
 i cant remember track name
 video is full of robot dummis in one room that are turning their heads and
 arms in they are half coverd with som sheets. s*** i dont know.
 i tink its mid 80` song something like disco-electro-pop.
 
 its tearing my head all morning, im about to go mad.
 
 thank you
 
 b.


RE: [313] silly tshirt slogans

2001-04-12 Thread Gwendal Cobert
 313: yeah...that's right..we're the ones who buy all
 the limited white labels on colored vinyl that play
 backwards
I actually like that one...
Gwendal


Record ID

2001-04-12 Thread Steven Taylor
DJ Deeon 12 on Dancemania.
Featuring tracks:

DJ Milton aint Dead
House-o-matic
(and maybe 'I drop the bomb'?)

If anyone can tell me the cat no. and where I can possibly pick it up id be
very grateful!
Or let me know if you want to sell it to me,,,

Steve


Re: [313] Brinkmann interview

2001-04-12 Thread janos
There is an Interview with brinkmann at the Sonox site made by Andrew Duke @ 
Cognition.
http://www.sonox.com

//  janos




At 01:21 PM 4/11/2001 -0700, you wrote:
I think Brinkmann is a genius, but is his x100 project somewhat a conceptual
rip of X102 Rings of Saturn?

  And this connection, this border, was very important for me in 'x100.'
  The visual problem, the rings, the spirals ... I want to have a very
simple, geometrical form on the surface of the record. How is it possible to
program the sounds to create this? So the music was following the visual
imperative. 


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From: tristan watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Brinkmann\Morningstar [LONG]


 --- Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a bit of an old thread but I never got
  around to responding at the
  time. I recommend that people check out Philip's
  interview with TB at:
 
 www.urbansounds.com/us_current/thumbnail/brinkmann_1.html
  (It inspired me).

 I haven't had a chance to read all of them straight
 through yet, but the rest of the interviews with
 Stewart Walker, Hawtin, Reich, Taylor Dupree and
 Carsten Nicolai also look very good.

 Nice work Phillip!

 Tristan

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quest

2001-04-12 Thread janos
I neeed this !!

Paul Johnson - Sex Crazed / Track Happy (Dance Mania)
Cat nr: DM138

Anyone ???!!

//janos



Re: [313] Record ID

2001-04-12 Thread Gary Girard

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Cheers,
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Re: [313] Record ID

2001-04-12 Thread Dennis Donohue

grammaphone in chicago.

www.gramaphonerecords.com

they always stock a ton of this stuff, as well as tons of paul johnson...

Cheers!
Dennnis



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common factor mix site

2001-04-12 Thread Sam Karmel

somebody put up a link for a common factor mix a while
ago.  I deleted the link by mistake.  does anybody
remember it?
thanx in advance.

Sam
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DEMF ARCHIVES

2001-04-12 Thread Wraith313
Does anyone have the link for the 2000 DEMF archives?  I heard there are 
downloadables there.  Thanks.

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Re: [313] DEMF ARCHIVES

2001-04-12 Thread Kyle J Dupuy

how 'bout groovetech.com?



On 12 Apr 2001, Wraith313 wrote:

 Does anyone have the link for the 2000 DEMF archives?  I heard there are 
 downloadables there.  Thanks.
 
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F L A T P L A S T I C ++ primer ++

2001-04-12 Thread Giles Dickerson
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two lists, we at flatplastic thought it might be a good time to renew
our mission within your minds.

Flatplastic was begun on Boston's 90.3 wzbc FM, a non-commercial radio
station from Boston College. There flatplasticFM represented house, dub,
techno, electro and avante garde electronic music in a continuous
mixshow from 11pm to 2am every saturday night for roughly 3 years, every
week. Although we had an enthusiastic and commited audience, the show
was only broadcast to the Boston and surrounding areas, so we gradually
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We recieve emails from all over the world every day in support of our
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Re: [313] who go juan atkins it happen last week no one care i cry a lot play with puppies

2001-04-12 Thread Arsenal 2001


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distribution companies

2001-04-12 Thread Stewart Caig
Can anyone suggest some good record distribution companies based in the UK,
but which distribute across the world and that specialise or at least have a
good knowledge of techno.

Thanks in advance
Stewart



Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Wraith313
Hi group.  I have noticed some familiar names in this group.  Maybe i can get 
some educated opinions as to a good way to start out in this industry.  

I have a home studio and have been recording tracks for a while now.  I'd like 
to press some vinyl and possibly get it in stores or even give them out to DJs.

The thing is, I don't really have a clue as to how to go about this.  What do I 
need to do in order to put my stuff on vinyl?  How do I get it in stores?  

Any advice is good advice.  Thanks!

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Re: [313] demf after parties

2001-04-12 Thread ani
can't confirm or deny ;)

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To: 'T Mind' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: [313] demf after parties


 
  Any info yet on who will spin or perform on some of the after 
  parties during 
  this years demf.
 
 I've heard from a verry reliable source that Suburban Knight will play a
 liveset at some afterparty. 
 
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Re: [Xpert]Problems with DRI

2001-04-12 Thread george . jones
According to Utah GLX's site, GLX will not work with XFree 4.x.x. It will
only work with 3.3.6.

IMPORTANT: Utah GLX will only work with XFree86 3.3.x
If you need accelerated 3d with XFree86 4.x you should
take a look at http://dri.sourceforge.net/;






Brian Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]@XFree86.Org on 04/12/2001 10:23:12 AM

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   Ademar de Souza Reis Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:   Philip Willoughby [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: [Xpert]Problems with DRI


Ademar de Souza Reis Jr. wrote:

 Hoje, às 07:48, Brian Paul escreveu:

   The problem was relative to the version of my Mesa lib. It's working
   now, althought it's not stable (yet, I hope).
 
  There's no reason to install or use Mesa if you're using XFree86+DRI.
  XFree86 includes all the needed Mesa code.  If you use the stand-alone
  Mesa library you WILL NOT get hardware acceleration (modulo the old
  Voodoo1/2 driver).
 
  What does glxinfo report for GL_RENDERER?

 There's no GL_RENDERER variable, but:

 OpenGL vendor string: Brian Paul
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11
  

You're definitely not using the DRI.  If you were using the DRI with
a Rage128 card, for example, you'd see something like this:

OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Rage128 20010321 AGP 1x x86/MMX/3DNow!

Please read the DRI Compilation and User guides to setup the DRI
correctly-  dri.sourceforge.net

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RE: [313] who go juan atkins it happen last week no one care i cry a lot play with puppies

2001-04-12 Thread alex
as much as i agree with you, thats what being on a list is about... i just
use the 'delete' key, its up on the left side of the keypad...

ab
[flip the scrip and down pitch the speed]


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RE: [313] who go juan atkins it happen last week no one care i cry a lot play with puppies

2001-04-12 Thread Jochem_Peteri


my favorite key!!


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Re: [313] Re: [Xpert]Problems with DRI

2001-04-12 Thread Kyle J Dupuy

that's what i thought.  mmm-h.



On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 According to Utah GLX's site, GLX will not work with XFree 4.x.x. It will
 only work with 3.3.6.
 
 IMPORTANT: Utah GLX will only work with XFree86 3.3.x
 If you need accelerated 3d with XFree86 4.x you should
 take a look at http://dri.sourceforge.net/;
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Brian Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]@XFree86.Org on 04/12/2001 10:23:12 AM
 
 Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 To:   Ademar de Souza Reis Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:   Philip Willoughby [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [Xpert]Problems with DRI
 
 
 Ademar de Souza Reis Jr. wrote:
 
  Hoje, ?s 07:48, Brian Paul escreveu:
 
The problem was relative to the version of my Mesa lib. It's working
now, althought it's not stable (yet, I hope).
  
   There's no reason to install or use Mesa if you're using XFree86+DRI.
   XFree86 includes all the needed Mesa code.  If you use the stand-alone
   Mesa library you WILL NOT get hardware acceleration (modulo the old
   Voodoo1/2 driver).
  
   What does glxinfo report for GL_RENDERER?
 
  There's no GL_RENDERER variable, but:
 
  OpenGL vendor string: Brian Paul
  OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11
   
 
 You're definitely not using the DRI.  If you were using the DRI with
 a Rage128 card, for example, you'd see something like this:
 
 OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Rage128 20010321 AGP 1x x86/MMX/3DNow!
 
 Please read the DRI Compilation and User guides to setup the DRI
 correctly-  dri.sourceforge.net
 
 -Brian
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Re: [313] Re: [Xpert]Problems with DRI

2001-04-12 Thread Jochem_Peteri


yup...that makes sense


154




RE: [313] Re: [Xpert]Problems with DRI

2001-04-12 Thread Simon Dennis
if he'd only correlated the flange housing error message with the
arco-pneumatic flex data he would have been ok.

but as it stands..




Re: [313] silly tshirt slogans

2001-04-12 Thread Kent williams
I for one would like a T Shirt with a Giant '313' on the front
and 'STAY LOW, STAY STRONG' on the back.

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RE: [313] silly tshirt slogans

2001-04-12 Thread Steven Taylor
How about no slogan at all?
Controversial maybe.

 I for one would like a T Shirt with a Giant '313' on the front
 and 'STAY LOW, STAY STRONG' on the back.
 
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Re: Brinkmann\Morningstar

2001-04-12 Thread Charles Prince
Thanks, Matt. Exactly...the Soul Center cut-up approach clearly echoes
Faulkner's compelling, fractured narrative strategy in those novels, where
memory shards fuse together to slice deeply  lovingly into the cultural
underbelly of the American South.  

That track you're thinking of from SC I is P/SHACK SESSION, which
samples heavily from The Temptations' Psychedelic Shack. Another
spine-tingler, for sure. I just pray Brinkmann keeps mining these weird
scenes from inside the vinyl goldmine...

Wes
(You can be who you want to be; you're a million miles away from
reality -- The Temps, Psychedelic Shack)

On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Matt MacQueen wrote:

  This is a bit of an old thread but I never got around to responding at the
  time. I recommend that people check out Philip's interview with TB at:
  www.urbansounds.com/us_current/thumbnail/brinkmann_1.html (It inspired me).
  
  TB's Soul Center releases certainly reveal a transformational sampling 
  ethic...
 
 
 nice words, cheers.  For those who can't stand comparisons of
 music and literature, delete this post now. 
 
 Personally, I can't get enough of soulcenter I and II.   I've
 always thought of Brinkmann as the William Faulkner of dance
 music on vol.2.  The weird dark historic edge, reminds me of the
 crazy stuff in _Light in August_ and _As I Lay Dying_.  Also the
 photography on front and back of Soulcenter II is just brilliant,
 evokes some dark and intense inner emotions. 
 
 Also how about that track, is it called FUNK SHACK or
 something??  I think it's the last track on Soulcenter vol.1,
 where a creaky door opens at the beginning of the track, and then
 slams shut at the end. Like you were let into some hot, house
 party in some weirdo backwoods southern town, where people just
 come to
 escape the flashy, glitzy nauseating clubland and into this
 weirder, deeper and darker smokey space, but it's still pure
 funk.  Also I love the parallels you draw with the whole David
 Lynch movies, I totally see it, and had actually thought that
 myself before.  
 
 
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Re: [313] Record ID

2001-04-12 Thread Michael Kim


Melodies and Memories always has some lying around...  i'm in kind of a rush 
but i could get you a phone # if interested.  they're Detroit-based.


Mike


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Re: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Tom Robbins
 What do I need to do in order to put my stuff on vinyl?  How do I get it
in stores?

Either:

1. Have your DAT/CDR mastered (here's an article I wrote on mastering:
http://www.geocities.com/tom_mf_uk/XFade/FC.htm)
2. Pay a pressing plant to press some copies.
3. Send sample copies to likely distributors and ask them if they're
interested (here's an article I wrote on distribution:
http://www.geocities.com/tom_mf_uk/iDJ/Distribution.htm)
4. Sign deal with distributor/s (hopefully)
5. Do some artwork etc.
6. Get as many pressed up as the distributors will take (plus a few more) 
send them to distributors to sell for you.
7. Wait for sales statements and, hopefully, cheques to start coming in.

Or:

1. Make CDR/tape copies of your best stuff.
2. Send to likely distributors asking them if they'd be interested in a PD
deal (Production  Distribution): ie. they press, sell and distribute the
record for you, in return for a greater cut of the revenue, but not all
distributors will do this.
3. Take it from there...

Or:

1. Make CDR/tape copies of your best stuff.
2. Send to record labels.
3. Wait  see.

Below is an article I wrote on setting up your own label, I just haven't got
around to putting it on my site yet. It's aimed at a UK audience, but the
principles are the same.

Hope this helps,
TOM

***

Inside the Industry: Setting up a record label

Fancy being a music industry mogul, but unsure how to go about it? iDJ looks
at the do's and don'ts of setting up your own record label and takes advice
from three of today's hottest independents.

Why?

Ah, the eternal question. Ask yourself - why do you want to set up a record
label? Because you're sick of your day job in the Spam factory and you
foresee endless days of liquid lunches with Brandon Block and coke-fuelled
nights partying with Manumission dwarves? In which case, forget it. Most
independent record labels hardly make any money, if any at all and for every
Global Underground or Warp there are literally thousands of labels who have
long since gone to the wall.

On the other hand, if you have lots of music which you think is brilliant
and deserves to be heard but you can't find anyone to put it out for you,
then setting up your own label is probably the way to go. This reasoning was
good enough for plenty of the best dance labels in history, so it should be
good enough for you.

The other reason people set up their own labels is simply to have total
control. After all, if it's your label, no-one can tell you that releasing a
limited edition of fifty copies with triple gatefold hemp sleeves and a free
packet of crisps is out of the question, can they? This particularly applies
to producers who've already had a few records out, but who weren't happy
with the way they were treated by other labels. And lord knows there are
plenty of them.

Who?

The person ideally suited to setting up a label is someone with years of
industry experience, lots of contacts, masters degrees in business studies,
marketing and accountancy, impeccable musical taste, buckets of enthusiasm,
anal attention to detail, lots of drive and a good few thousand quid they
can comfortably risk. Not much to ask, is it? That said, plenty of people
with little or none of the above have successfully run labels. If you're
careful, start small and follow a few basic rules, you too can be a record
label boss, even if you're only selling five hundred copies a time.

When starting up, the key phrase to remember is advance planning. Your aim
should be to have everything in place before you release your first record.
Some careful preparation now will save you a lot of grief in future.

Image is everything

The image of your label is vitally important - there are thousands of labels
out there these days, so you need to stand out from the crowd. The starting
point here is the name you will choose for your label, which must instantly
encapsulate the image you want to portray. But make sure you pick a name
which hasn't already been claimed - to check on this, run your ideas through
a few Internet search engines.

Once you've picked a name, you'll need a logo. A striking, easily
identifiable logo is crucial because you want your label to sell on the
strength of its name alone - your logo must become a guarantee of instant
quality to record-buyers. You could pay a design company to do this for you,
but most small independent labels either do their own artwork (pretty simple
with today's design software) or just slip an artistically-minded friend
thirty quid to do it for them. Remember that you'll need new artwork
preparing for every release, so it's worth learning to do it yourself.

Nowadays a website is also a prequisite for any label wanting to maintain a
careful public image. Assuming you don't want anything too fancy to begin
with, these don't have to cost very much and even a complete novice can
design a site these days using cheap site-building software. Also, sort out
an email address for your 

Re: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread tristan watkins
Also check out the Dance Music Business Resource by
Chris Sattinger @ hyperreal.org 

Tristan 



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Re: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Jonny McIntosh
I checked this earlier, after writing off list about it, and there's a more
up to date version at:

http://crucial-systems.com/dmbr/

so that's, umm, more up to date...

 Also check out the Dance Music Business Resource by
 Chris Sattinger @ hyperreal.org




T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread d . pinter
For all of you who have not taken the opportunity to vote yet for the 
313T-Shirt you still have time. I wanted post a reminder in case some of you 
missed yesterdays message. All you have to do is go to www.313shirt.50megs.com 
and check out the entries. There is a link at the bottom of the site for 
voting. All you need to do is put the letter of your favorite design in the 
subject box of the email. It's pretty simple. Again everyone on the list is 
encouraged to vote.

Thanks to all those who did vote yesterday. We got a lot, and for those 
counting it was interesting to follow the totals throughout the day.

Just a reminder that you will have till Sat. night at midnight est. to vote.

thanks again everyone,
dave 


RE: [313] Record ID

2001-04-12 Thread Max Duley
Funk City


 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 April 2001 11:42
 To: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject: [313] Record ID
 
 
 DJ Deeon 12 on Dancemania.
 Featuring tracks:
 
 DJ Milton aint Dead
 House-o-matic
 (and maybe 'I drop the bomb'?)
 
 If anyone can tell me the cat no. and where I can possibly pick 
 it up id be
 very grateful!
 Or let me know if you want to sell it to me,,,
 
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RE: [313] distribution companies

2001-04-12 Thread Max Duley
 Can anyone suggest some good record distribution companies based
 in the UK,but which distribute across the world and that specialise or at
 least have a good knowledge of techno.

The two main movers are Prime (020 8601 2200) in London and Integrale (0121
550 6200) in Birmingham. Prime are the biggest independant distro in the UK
to my knowledge, but Integrale are also very good, if a little understaffed.
Both specialise in techno, although Prime is expanding quickly to include
other styles. There is also Ideal but I know people who've stopped using
them over the past couple of years



RE: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Max Duley
 1. Make CDR/tape copies of your best stuff.
 2. Send to likely distributors asking them if they'd be
 interested in a PD
 deal (Production  Distribution): ie. they press, sell and distribute the
 record for you, in return for a greater cut of the revenue, but not all
 distributors will do this.
 3. Take it from there...

Most people I know outside of the US did it this way. It means you lose
total financial control but it also means that

a) i) You don't have to front up all the cash to pay for cutting, processing
and pressing.
  ii) this also means that it's not necessary to wait months for the returns
before doing the next release. They just pay for it and it comes off your
account.
b) you can leave a lot of the work, booking arrangements, dealing with
pressing plants etc to them, leaving you a few more minutes a week to make
music, when you're not at the 9 to 5.
c) the distributors have a little extra incentive to sell the records.

I don't know about others but my distro, Prime, don't pay less for a P+D
produced record than any other.

Of course, as Tom rightly says, not every distro will go for a P+D.

Another problem you face is geography. I know people who run labels in the
US, and they have to deal with more than one distributor. I knew a guy that
dealt with over twenty in the US alone, and I only know a couple of people
who only deal with one.



Re: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread Greg Malcolm

B rules.

GM



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [313] T-Shirt Voting
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:56:10 -0400

For all of you who have not taken the opportunity to vote yet for the 
313T-Shirt you still have time. I wanted post a reminder in case some of 
you missed yesterdays message. All you have to do is go to 
www.313shirt.50megs.com
and check out the entries. There is a link at the bottom of the site for 
voting. All you need to do is put the letter of your favorite design in the 
subject box of the email. It's pretty simple. Again everyone on the list is 
encouraged to vote.


Thanks to all those who did vote yesterday. We got a lot, and for those 
counting it was interesting to follow the totals throughout the day.


Just a reminder that you will have till Sat. night at midnight est. to 
vote.


thanks again everyone,
dave

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Dego at DEMF2000 track ID

2001-04-12 Thread Matt MacQueen
 Can someone please ID this track for me? It's on the second Dego set on DEMF
 archived in the Groovetech site, and it's this song coming in at around
 16:35.

Anyone know what the track right BEFORE this one?  Wicked
bassline! 

I THINK the track at 16:35 is by Domu (or also sounds like Total
Science?)  I'll check on exact title and label when I get
home...  excellent broken beat cut with a real synthy edge.

 I got really interested in Dego after hearing him and some friends playing
 at The End When I went to London. They made me dance all night even though I
 wasn't moving :-) Now, *THAT* has some jazz to it... Some of the best music
 I've heard in my life, no arguments there...

Yup. I love how Dego and co. took elements of techno and some
production techniques from dnb, instrumental hip-hop (remember
Tek-9?)  added some jazz flavors (like heavy Rhodes piano) to
spawn an original new style that is a complete bouillabaisse of a
bunch of different good beats and electronic, soulful sounds --
but doesn't really sound like other styles of dance music in
particular that already exist.   

I think all the collaboration among those artists W. London right
now of these producers is REALLY incestuous, there's like about
15 or 20 producers (and even some vocalists) that are appearing
as collaborators on each other's records, labels, and starting
new projects together as one-offs, etc.  It's exciting to see all
that synergy. Frankly, reminds me when back in Detroit all the
EARLY collaborations between carl, derrick, shake, juan, kevin,
claude, d-wynn, jay denham, basically the
Transmat/KMS/Metroplex/Fragile family as well as UR/Axis/M-plant,
people were all just really into discovering and defining a new
sound.  Everyone was helping each other out on productions,
borrowing studios, labels, producers, remixers, etc.

We're witnessing that kind of explosive team creativity growth
in the broken-beat scene right now (and over the last 8 mos. or
so), the ball is really rolling.  A lot of the old Reinforced
artists have got involved under different pseudonyms to make some
really ecclectic tracks with wider influences and contributors.

peace
-- 
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Re: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread kdupuy



B rules.

GM


come on now, my sheep;  don't allow yourselves to be swayed by this attempt 
to corrupt our democratic process.


bored at work,
k


another Dego at DEMF2000 track ID

2001-04-12 Thread Matt MacQueen
Can anyone ID this: 

From Dego's set at DEMF last year, 2nd set archive on
Groovetech.com, the track that comes in around 28:00, techno-ey
beats (that remind me of Cosmic Courier) and really great
strings.  

Is this Seiji?  I think Paris starts out one of his mix CDs w/
this track, too... 

peace
-- 
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RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread Ryan Brogan
Exactly. Geez people. Let's be mature, like DJ's who like to have pictures
of record crates on their shirts to validate themselves. See picture C for
further info.

P.S. Was there a final vote for shirts last year? I unsubbed around this
time.



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To: Greg Malcolm
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
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 B rules.

 GM

come on now, my sheep;  don't allow yourselves to be swayed by this attempt
to corrupt our democratic process.

bored at work,
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RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread diana potts

 I've voted already. BUT what happened to the
submissions from last year??? There was a nice morse
code that wasn't so obvious as well as some other
ones.
I was surprised to only see four (five?) selections on
this page.

i see the flames coming..
d
on a more 313 note: can any one tell me about the new
Minus artists-Niederflur..any feedback?


--- Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exactly. Geez people. Let's be mature, like DJ's who
 like to have pictures
 of record crates on their shirts to validate
 themselves. See picture C for
 further info.
 
 P.S. Was there a final vote for shirts last year? I
 unsubbed around this
 time.
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:38 PM
 To:   Greg Malcolm
 Cc:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  Re: [313] T-Shirt Voting
 
 
  B rules.
 
  GM
 
 come on now, my sheep;  don't allow yourselves to be
 swayed by this attempt
 to corrupt our democratic process.
 
 bored at work,
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Re: Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Oliver Barkovic
What about Kudos??

Ollie

Max Duley wrote:

  1. Make CDR/tape copies of your best stuff.
  2. Send to likely distributors asking them if they'd be
  interested in a PD
  deal (Production  Distribution): ie. they press, sell and
distribute the
  record for you, in return for a greater cut of the revenue, but not
all
  distributors will do this.
  3. Take it from there...

 Most people I know outside of the US did it this way. It means you
lose
 total financial control but it also means that

 a) i) You don't have to front up all the cash to pay for cutting,
processing
 and pressing.
   ii) this also means that it's not necessary to wait months for the
returns
 before doing the next release. They just pay for it and it comes off
your
 account.
 b) you can leave a lot of the work, booking arrangements, dealing with

 pressing plants etc to them, leaving you a few more minutes a week to
make
 music, when you're not at the 9 to 5.
 c) the distributors have a little extra incentive to sell the records.


 I don't know about others but my distro, Prime, don't pay less for a
P+D
 produced record than any other.

 Of course, as Tom rightly says, not every distro will go for a P+D.

 Another problem you face is geography. I know people who run labels in
the
 US, and they have to deal with more than one distributor. I knew a guy
that
 dealt with over twenty in the US alone, and I only know a couple of
people
 who only deal with one.

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Re: [313] another Dego at DEMF2000 track ID

2001-04-12 Thread marsel


pepe bradock - burning (deep burnt)
kif.s.a 008
(c) 1999

At 12-4-01 -0500 14:46, you wrote:

Can anyone ID this:

From Dego's set at DEMF last year, 2nd set archive on
Groovetech.com, the track that comes in around 28:00, techno-ey
beats (that remind me of Cosmic Courier) and really great
strings.

Is this Seiji?  I think Paris starts out one of his mix CDs w/
this track, too...




RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread george . jones
Ok.. I missed it. Where's the site?




Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/12/2001 03:51:47 PM

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:  RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting


Exactly. Geez people. Let's be mature, like DJ's who like to have pictures
of record crates on their shirts to validate themselves. See picture C for
further info.

P.S. Was there a final vote for shirts last year? I unsubbed around this
time.



 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:38 PM
To:  Greg Malcolm
Cc:  313@hyperreal.org
Subject:  Re: [313] T-Shirt Voting


 B rules.

 GM

come on now, my sheep;  don't allow yourselves to be swayed by this attempt
to corrupt our democratic process.

bored at work,
k

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RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread chrise
  I've voted already. BUT what happened to the
 submissions from last year??? There was a nice morse
 code that wasn't so obvious as well as some other
 ones.
 I was surprised to only see four (five?) selections on
 this page.

i was surprised too...  last year there were so many entries.  And it's
not like there wasn't enough time to design them this time.  Maybe people
were discouraged by the fact that they didn't get printed last year?

*shrug* there were some good ones last year, oh well.

chris



RE: RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread Ryan Brogan
I did like it. Voted for it. That was sarcasm. :)

 -Original Message-
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Sent:   Thursday, April 12, 2001 4:10 PM
To: Ryan Brogan
Subject:Re: RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

It never got produced last year which is why I volunteered to try to get it
done this year. btw, I though a major fault of last year was the fact that
who every set up the voting assigned peoples names to their work. I opted to
keep things annonymous so that personal critiques might be avoided. Sorry
you didn't like one of the submission but there was three weeks for you to
have come up with your own. The point of voting is to pick YOUR favorite.

dave


Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exactly. Geez people. Let's be mature, like DJ's who like to have pictures
of record crates on their shirts to validate themselves. See picture C for
further info.

P.S. Was there a final vote for shirts last year? I unsubbed around this
time.



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Sent:   Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Greg Malcolm
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:Re: [313] T-Shirt Voting


 B rules.

 GM

come on now, my sheep;  don't allow yourselves to be swayed by this attempt
to corrupt our democratic process.

bored at work,
k

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RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting

2001-04-12 Thread diana potts
im definately liking the tracks posted on the m-nus
site. the dirty, gritty deep minimal/funky german
sound that I can't seem to get enough of. 

I just wanna eat it with a spoon.

d
--- dj revolver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Niederflur..any feedback? two fellas from germany i
 think.  i've only heard 
 the tracks on m-nus.com - nice stuff - extremely
 minimal
 
 
 From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting
 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT)
 
 
   I've voted already. BUT what happened to the
 submissions from last year??? There was a nice
 morse
 code that wasn't so obvious as well as some other
 ones.
 I was surprised to only see four (five?) selections
 on
 this page.
 
 i see the flames coming..
 d
 on a more 313 note: can any one tell me about the
 new
 Minus artists-Niederflur..any feedback?
 
 
 --- Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Exactly. Geez people. Let's be mature, like DJ's
 who
   like to have pictures
   of record crates on their shirts to validate
   themselves. See picture C for
   further info.
  
   P.S. Was there a final vote for shirts last
 year? I
   unsubbed around this
   time.
  
  
  
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B rules.
   
GM
  
   come on now, my sheep;  don't allow yourselves
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Re: [313] another Dego at DEMF2000 track ID

2001-04-12 Thread Ian
on 4/12/01 3:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From Dego's set at DEMF last year, 2nd set archive on
 Groovetech.com, the track that comes in around 28:00, techno-ey
 beats (that remind me of Cosmic Courier) and really great
 strings.  
 
 Is this Seiji?  I think Paris starts out one of his mix CDs w/
 this track, too...

Paris did indeed have a mix that launched with this Pepe Braddock track.  I
was expecting that there would have been another Pepe LP release by now.  I
remember reading something about a release named  6 MILLION PINTADES, but
I have not seen or heard anything?
--
There4IM



RE: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Max Duley (ARC-art)
 What about Kudos??

Never heard of them.


NEW TITONTON ALBUM

2001-04-12 Thread Arne Weinberg
Hello folks

This goes out mainly for the european listmembers

Does anybody know when the Titonton album gonna be released in Europe? I know 
that the release date was the 9th in the states.
I can´t wait to have it! :-)

Thanx

Arne Weinberg
Propaganda Rec./Groundzero Rec.
°°°



RE: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread M Elliot-Knight
I think he might mean promos... sending them to magazines/websites/freelance 
writers.


I think

MEK



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Subject: RE: [313] Industry Advice...
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:52:31 +0100

 What about Kudos??

Never heard of them.

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Re: [Re: [313] another Dego at DEMF2000 track ID]

2001-04-12 Thread kent christopher
this is Pepe Bradock's 'Burning' on [KIF SA], presently listed as in stock at
Groovetech. i think it must have been repressed lately, as it originally came
out in 1998. brilliant track.

-kent

Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 4/12/01 3:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From Dego's set at DEMF last year, 2nd set archive on
  Groovetech.com, the track that comes in around 28:00, techno-ey
  beats (that remind me of Cosmic Courier) and really great
  strings.  
  
  Is this Seiji?  I think Paris starts out one of his mix CDs w/
  this track, too...
 
 Paris did indeed have a mix that launched with this Pepe Braddock track.  I
 was expecting that there would have been another Pepe LP release by now.  I
 remember reading something about a release named  6 MILLION PINTADES, but
 I have not seen or heard anything?
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Re: [313] demf after parties

2001-04-12 Thread viagratek .






  Any info yet on who will spin or perform on some of the after
  parties during
  this years demf.

 I've heard from a verry reliable source that Suburban Knight will play a
 liveset at some afterparty.



not sure bout a live set...but i think he's booked for the 430 west after 
party sunday night. he rocked it last year, why not?


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Re: [313] demf after parties

2001-04-12 Thread viagratek .






  Any info yet on who will spin or perform on some of the after
  parties during
  this years demf.

 I've heard from a verry reliable source that Suburban Knight will play a
 liveset at some afterparty.



not sure bout a live set...but i think he's booked for the 430 west after 
party sunday night. he rocked it last year, why not?


-v
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Re: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Oliver Barkovic
hahaha  no I mean:

http://www.kudosrecords.co.uk/

ollie

M Elliot-Knight wrote:

 I think he might mean promos... sending them to magazines/websites/freelance
 writers.

 I think

 MEK

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   What about Kudos??
 
 Never heard of them.
 
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RE: [313] Industry Advice...

2001-04-12 Thread Max Duley (ARC-art)
 hahaha  no I mean:
 
 http://www.kudosrecords.co.uk/

Well, the original request was about distros that specialise in techno.