Re: [313] Re: matrix + strobe

2001-10-20 Thread et machina

 The convextion releases are great, but it's not by
 Sean. I also hear there are upcoming releases by
 Convextion coming out on a label called down low
 music. ;)

Are you really sure it is not by Sean?
At smallfish they said it was Sean Deason.. but anyway..


haha...no they are wrong.
matrix was just sean deason's label. convextion is a cattle wrassler from 
texas

and we run down low :P
jt



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[313] Re: K Hand - (was: Astralwerks - Detroit Beyond the 3rd Wave LP)

2001-10-20 Thread Greg Earle
 Come On Now Baby from the Detroit: Beyond the Third Wave comp is my
 favorite K Hand track ever.  Really slamming dancefloor production and a
 gritty, nagging vocal hook.  I've got some of her other stuff, including the
 new LP on Tresor, and haven't really heard anything I liked as much as that.
 Any suggestions on good K Hand stuff, perhaps in the vein of that track?

I loved her Ready For The Darkness album, and her On A Journey album
was quite good, too.  Kelli's another of my Proof-that-Girls-rule! data
points  :-)

- Greg (who'd like to publically thank Dan Sicko for finding the
pic sleeve The Beginning on eBay for me.  I won!  Yay.)

P.S. Are there any Technotourist events of interest in Madrid?  US Airways
 has an insane deal from LA to Madrid (US $295 r/t) from now 'til Nov. 8.



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Re: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread Dan Sicko

Trance in its roots was a marketing tool to identify techno with melody


That's a real shame that the definition of techno had degraded that 
quickly in the early 90s, don't you think?


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[313] Top 100 of the 90's

2001-10-20 Thread Gerald
You know it was gonna happen sooner or later.

http://www.Groove.de
Has released their version: Jaguar checks in at #8, sandwiched between
#7 Underworld 'Born Slippy' and #9 The Prodigy 'Firestarter'.

Jaguar would definitely get the #1 vote on my list. Another recent one
that i feel got over shadowed by the hype surrounding Jaguar, was Gerald
Mitchell's release as M5 on Metroplex. Bad timing... i think if it would
of been released at any other time, M5 could have been huge! Maybe even
as big as Jaguar...
To this day whenever i throw it on the decks, guarenteed someones gonna
come up and ask What is this?

Cheers!

G

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RE: [313] Techno for funerals

2001-10-20 Thread Geoffrey Richards


For my funeral, I think that I would like a few things played

on the techno tip (well, i guess that these are arguably not techno):

mysteries of science - the wake (maybe for my wake, that is)

and various songs off of

aphex twin - selected ambient works vol 2

on the not-so techno/not so somber tip:

a live rendition of when the saints come marching in (and other dixiland 
greats)


-geoff


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Re: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message -
From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; M. Todd Smith
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 Trance in its roots was a marketing tool to identify techno with melody

 That's a real shame that the definition of techno had degraded that
 quickly in the early 90s, don't you think?

 -d

Point taken. How could I put it better??? That trance was a marketing tool
used by the uninititated to distinguish ethereal techno from rave and from
harder Detroit/Berlin techno??? I mean - obviously the distinction becomes
blurred because the point is that there was no consistency in the
application of the label. I'm not trying to reinstitute the co-option of all
melodic techno of that era under the guise of trance. Rather, I'm trying to
point out that a CD buying audience was more likely to be introduced to
techno at the time b/c that's what was compiled most often, and it was
marketed as trance in a hodgepodge. Like the afforementioned 69 and Dark
Comedy tracks, Balil, Sun Electric, Thomas Fehlmann, etc. All of it was
(mis)labeled trance, at least in some corners, and we can only disregard
that label with the benefit of hindsight. But maybe the point is that none
of us outsiders knew what trance was in '93? I didn't intend to diminish the
existant melodic techno of that era. If it wasn't for In Order to Dance Vol.
V, I may not have ever discovered techno and that it is in fact a techno
compilation, then often filed under trance. The only pointer I had to
techno through domestic channels was the NovaMute repress of the techno
sound of Berlin. The Pow-Wow Trance Waveform Transmissions didn't clear
things up for me any... My first taste of techno in 1990 came from the
Belgian This is the New Beat compilations, and I was later told through
313 that they were rip-offs. I'm trying to point out the co-option and how
most people don't jump into techno at purity ground-zero. In the early-mid
90s, communication channels were not so established as they are today, and
more people lived in isolation from the hotbeds of innovation. You consumed
what you could find, and what you were fed was trance - even if wasn't in
actuality. Of course, this is the 90's newcomer's dialogue, not the early
initaites, who had found what they were looking for already and can easilly
dismiss the rest.

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RE: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread FC3 Richards
and i wanna hear how experimental and techno your spinning happy hard core
is...

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 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:52 AM
 To:   Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
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 ---Original Message---
 
 all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of
 experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD??
 
 Link anywhere?
 
 I wanna hear just how experimental hawtin suppossedly is.
 
 heh.
 
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RE: [313] Astralwerks - Detroit Beyond the 3rd Wave LP

2001-10-20 Thread FC3 Richards
it is pretty difficult to get this record.  i had to get mine off of e-bay
for $6 USD plus $4.50 shipping and handling.  But it has been out of print
for a couple of years now, as far as i know.  they could haver repressed it
without telling me though...
jeff

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 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:15 AM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  [313] Astralwerks - Detroit Beyond the 3rd Wave LP
 
 Does anyone know if the LP - Detroit: Beyond The Third Wave (Claude Young,
 K 
 Hand, DJ T1000, Terence Dixon, etc.) on Astralwerks (ASWLP 6170)  which
 was 
 originally released in 1996, recently got repressed (or did it)??? cos
 there 
 are copies of these popping up in a local record store also it is
 available 
 on Juno... they are charging 14 pounds or AUD$60 for this LP, I don't
 really 
 know how hard is it to get this LP and is it really worth the money to get
 
 it?
 
 cheers,
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RE: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread DJ Entropy
---Original Message---
From:  FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and i wanna hear how experimental and techno your spinning happy hard core
is...

Well, considering I barely spin happy hardcore, here:

http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/sets/DJ_Entropy_-_Live_At_Infernal_Bass_(M
anchesterNH)_3-10-01.mp3

http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/sets/NEHardcoreRadio-7-30-01-DJEntropy.mp3

http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/sets/DJ_Entropy_-_Live_At_Higher_(Lexingto
nKY)_2-2-01.mp3



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 ---Original Message---
 
 all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of
 experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD??
 
 Link anywhere?
 
 I wanna hear just how experimental hawtin suppossedly is.
 
 heh.
 
 Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  N.E. Hardcore Radio: Mondays 7pm-10pm http://64.152.82.192:21062
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RE: [313] Techno for funerals

2001-10-20 Thread diana potts

the world funeral wouldn't be used. It's like the
term wedding...it leads to heartburn and uncomfortable
shoes. It would be done Jim Henson style: complete
celebration of life.

The house tune It's a lovely day, and the sun is
shining... would be played, along with Al Green, some
Aretha and of course Forever in Blue Jeans by my
Neil. I want the full on gospel choir too and
traditional Jewish celebration tunes. Long Island Iced
Ts and Cosmos given at the door.

There would be a(n optional) bowling game
aftwards...with prizes.

sorry..i got carried away.


--- Geoffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 For my funeral, I think that I would like a few
 things played
 
 on the techno tip (well, i guess that these are
 arguably not techno):
 
 mysteries of science - the wake (maybe for my wake,
 that is)
 
 and various songs off of
 
 aphex twin - selected ambient works vol 2
 
 on the not-so techno/not so somber tip:
 
 a live rendition of when the saints come marching in
 (and other dixiland 
 greats)
 
 -geoff
 
 

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RE: [313] Techno for funerals

2001-10-20 Thread paul . matheson


Many years ago I went to the funeral of a friend who died at the age of 18.
They played 'Song to the Siren' by This Mortal Coil in the church.  It was
astonishing, just extraordinary.  A few weeks ago, I went to a wedding in
Ireland and it accompanied the bride into the chapel.  And it worked.

When my mum died I asked them to play 'Fly me to the Moon' by Sinatra.  Smiles
with tears all round, which is what funerals have to be about.

Me, I'd have 'Search Your Feelings' (like a ton of others on the list)

Paul




diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 10:26:40 PM

To:   313@hyperreal.org
cc:(bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm)

Subject:  RE: [313] Techno for funerals





the world funeral wouldn't be used. It's like the
term wedding...it leads to heartburn and uncomfortable
shoes. It would be done Jim Henson style: complete
celebration of life.

The house tune It's a lovely day, and the sun is
shining... would be played, along with Al Green, some
Aretha and of course Forever in Blue Jeans by my
Neil. I want the full on gospel choir too and
traditional Jewish celebration tunes. Long Island Iced
Ts and Cosmos given at the door.

There would be a(n optional) bowling game
aftwards...with prizes.

sorry..i got carried away.


--- Geoffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For my funeral, I think that I would like a few
 things played

 on the techno tip (well, i guess that these are
 arguably not techno):

 mysteries of science - the wake (maybe for my wake,
 that is)

 and various songs off of

 aphex twin - selected ambient works vol 2

 on the not-so techno/not so somber tip:

 a live rendition of when the saints come marching in
 (and other dixiland
 greats)

 -geoff



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Re: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread Kent williams
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Dan Sicko wrote:
 Trance in its roots was a marketing tool to identify techno with melody
 
 That's a real shame that the definition of techno had degraded that 
 quickly in the early 90s, don't you think?
 
Well real Detroit techno was over before it started in some respects.
Kind of like the Velvet Underground -- by the time anyone paid attention
it was long since gone.  Later on it was seminal in influencing a later
generation. The people nowadays that call what they do techno, and more
particular Detroit techno are influenced and informed by the originators,
but Techno stopped being 'TECHNO' when it spread beyond a very exclusive
scene that only really involved a few hundred people in and around
Detroit.

Which isn't to say that good music in the dance idiom stopped in 1990 --
it's just not the same thing. There's a global dance culture that has
as much to do with fashion and pills as it does with music, and thousands
of people producing music on every continent, each with their own agenda.

About trance: I've seen a couple of trance DJs that I really liked, and 
it was because they have taste and seek out interesting things outside the 
mainstream. The real problem with trance is the same problem with things
like filter house, drum and bass, and two step: Specific, limited
production tricks and rhythms, that a producer should use once or twice
and then try something new, become codified and serve as the basis of a 
thousand slight variations, all inferior to the original.  That there's
a market for all that cheap repetition says something about the utilitarian
nature of dance music -- DJs always want something new and slamming, but
it can't be so new they lose their audience.




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Re: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread MARC DOUGLAS CHRISTENSEN
Kent-

would you forward my reply to the list?  my last several posts haven't gone 
through.  thanks, -marc 

the inestimable Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
Well real Detroit techno was over before it started in some respects.
Kind of like the Velvet Underground -- by the time anyone paid attention
it was long since gone.  

mostly true -- by the time it drew critical attention -- hell, even by the time 
of the music institute, the youth scene -- the under-21 scene that was the 
audience for the sound --- had changed so much that an affinity for techno (or 
progressive house, or whatever) seemed almost a throwback.

but Techno stopped being 'TECHNO' when it spread beyond a very exclusive
scene that only really involved a few hundred people in and around
Detroit.

CORRECTION: Given that techno wasn't applied to the sound until '88, when it 
was applied specifically in order to market the sound abroad, you *should* say 
that Techno only *began* being techno by turning away from the scene that 
produced it.

(it used to be known as a whole raft of things, but the most common i remember 
from high school circa '83-'87 was detroit house)

as for the few hundred people estimate -- it's higher, but certainly not 
arguably larger than 20,000, unless you add in Chicago's scene and its audience 
for Detroit product.  And even my highball figure of 20,000 (over seven years 
of adversity, with the sound trapped in two midwestern cities) certainly 
can't compare to the DEMF attendance.

history, folks, history.
-marc

PS I've got to get off web-based terminal emulation programs.  my emails 
*never* make it to the list!
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Re: [313] Techno for funerals

2001-10-20 Thread nathan goode
mine would be

it's a shame - bfc(carl craig)
and then - it is what it is - derrick may - my fav track ever.

peace

nath

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Many years ago I went to the funeral of a friend who died at the age of 18.
 They played 'Song to the Siren' by This Mortal Coil in the church.  It was
 astonishing, just extraordinary.  A few weeks ago, I went to a wedding in
 Ireland and it accompanied the bride into the chapel.  And it worked.

 When my mum died I asked them to play 'Fly me to the Moon' by Sinatra.  Smiles
 with tears all round, which is what funerals have to be about.

 Me, I'd have 'Search Your Feelings' (like a ton of others on the list)

 Paul

 diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/19/2001 10:26:40 PM

 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 cc:(bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm)

 Subject:  RE: [313] Techno for funerals

 the world funeral wouldn't be used. It's like the
 term wedding...it leads to heartburn and uncomfortable
 shoes. It would be done Jim Henson style: complete
 celebration of life.

 The house tune It's a lovely day, and the sun is
 shining... would be played, along with Al Green, some
 Aretha and of course Forever in Blue Jeans by my
 Neil. I want the full on gospel choir too and
 traditional Jewish celebration tunes. Long Island Iced
 Ts and Cosmos given at the door.

 There would be a(n optional) bowling game
 aftwards...with prizes.

 sorry..i got carried away.

 --- Geoffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For my funeral, I think that I would like a few
  things played
 
  on the techno tip (well, i guess that these are
  arguably not techno):
 
  mysteries of science - the wake (maybe for my wake,
  that is)
 
  and various songs off of
 
  aphex twin - selected ambient works vol 2
 
  on the not-so techno/not so somber tip:
 
  a live rendition of when the saints come marching in
  (and other dixiland
  greats)
 
  -geoff
 
 
 
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[313] Re: Techno for funerals

2001-10-20 Thread Melody Ng

The entire Red Planet 4 EP

And a party for my wake playing my entire collection.



Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:33:15 +0200
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject: Techno for funerals

Oi!

Which techno track do you want to be played at your funeral?
My last wish would be: The Martian  Model 500 - Search your Feelings
(RedPlanet-4)

R.
(hey...just asking!)


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RE: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 20 October 2001 04:11
|
| Trance in its roots was a marketing tool to identify techno with melody
|
| That's a real shame that the definition of techno had degraded that
| quickly in the early 90s, don't you think?

In the UK and Europe at least, the 2 Unlimited Effect (with their techno
techno techno techno! chorus) had an inestimably damaging impact on the
definition of techno. In fact, the word was a laughing stock among anyone
but the initiates. Everyone had to go to great lengths here to distance
themselves from 2 Unlimited, and would refer themselves to fans of
intelligent techno, idm, ambient techno, ambient trance but never
techno itself.

I think that nowadays there is a high awareness among lay people of what
techno is and how it differs from trance, house and the like. But even in
the mid-1990s, you couldn't define your favourite music as techno at all
without people laughing and singing you the 2 Unlimited chorus again -
techno techno techno techno!

Brendan


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[313] Axis 09

2001-10-20 Thread james boylan
Is Axis 09 by Jeff Mills (originally distributed only via Hardwax in Germany 
apparently) worth getting? Track description/rating anyone?


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Re: [313] Axis 09

2001-10-20 Thread Arne Weinberg
Hello!

Which one do you mean? There's a Axis 009 and a Axis 009b...
Axis 009b is released much later and is called More drama.
If you are Mills-addicted like me ;-) I think you need them both.
Not the best releases of him but worth a check in every case!

Cheers, Arne


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Re: [313] Axis 09

2001-10-20 Thread Arne Weinberg
Correct decision! :-)

Cheers, Arne


james boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I'm not sure which one it is...I thinks its Axis 009.  I think I'll take a 
chance on it.



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Date: 20 Oct 2001 11:07 GMT

Hello!

Which one do you mean? There's a Axis 009 and a Axis 009b...
Axis 009b is released much later and is called More drama.
If you are Mills-addicted like me ;-) I think you need them both.
Not the best releases of him but worth a check in every case!

Cheers, Arne


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 Is Axis 09 by Jeff Mills (originally distributed only via Hardwax in 
Germany
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[313] Re: Top 100 of the 90's

2001-10-20 Thread Courthouse Int'l Audio
Yes! Great release!
That shocked me, people overlooking that M5. 
Wait and see till someone drops the question on this 313 list:
What was that release on ... minutes in ...'s mix http://www. 
Hahaha... and C if it's still available...


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 Another recent one
 that i feel got over shadowed by the hype surrounding Jaguar, was Gerald
 Mitchell's release as M5 on Metroplex. Bad timing... i think if it would
 of been released at any other time, M5 could have been huge! Maybe even
 as big as Jaguar...
 To this day whenever i throw it on the decks, guarenteed someones gonna
 come up and ask What is this?



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[313] santos rodriguez

2001-10-20 Thread Maarten Baute
Little question:

is this guy producing under some aliases?
Because cosmic id 001 is the only relase from santos rodriguez i´ve heard
from (and I like it a lot).

Greets,
Maarten


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[313] juan atkins interview

2001-10-20 Thread marsel


http://www.cdnow.com/juanatkins_int2001/from=rex:x:cdn:1019juanf

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[313] Planet E - designer music

2001-10-20 Thread Maarten Baute
Dear detroit techno lovers,

1 simple question:

on wich ep was Designer Music - Good Girls released?

I have the vol2 (the truth / problemz) and I have the vol. 1 on cd, but it
´s not on the cd either.. maybee the vinyl of designer music vol. 1 is
different than the cd version?

Greets,
Maarten


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Re: [313] technology

2001-10-20 Thread Analog Headz
here`s my 2 cents.
 my defenition of techno (when people ask me what i spin thats what i
answer) is music with some sort of feeling. innovative and kool. i know that
as a genere TECHNO was created in detroit. i love detroit - but i think good
music (or techno) is created in many other places.
defenitions are bad!
as for trance i have mixed emotions about this genere since in my country
most of the people who like elektronic music are into trance (goa, psy, or
progressive). many of my friends are dj who spin this music. the early stuff
were great lots of emotion but in a weird way their scene is more like
drum`n`bass no more new innovation. the progressive music for me is just
rubbish with no soul.

A
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 On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Dan Sicko wrote:
  Trance in its roots was a marketing tool to identify techno with
melody
 
  That's a real shame that the definition of techno had degraded that
  quickly in the early 90s, don't you think?
 
 Well real Detroit techno was over before it started in some respects.
 Kind of like the Velvet Underground -- by the time anyone paid attention
 it was long since gone.  Later on it was seminal in influencing a later
 generation. The people nowadays that call what they do techno, and more
 particular Detroit techno are influenced and informed by the originators,
 but Techno stopped being 'TECHNO' when it spread beyond a very exclusive
 scene that only really involved a few hundred people in and around
 Detroit.

 Which isn't to say that good music in the dance idiom stopped in 1990 --
 it's just not the same thing. There's a global dance culture that has
 as much to do with fashion and pills as it does with music, and thousands
 of people producing music on every continent, each with their own agenda.

 About trance: I've seen a couple of trance DJs that I really liked, and
 it was because they have taste and seek out interesting things outside the
 mainstream. The real problem with trance is the same problem with things
 like filter house, drum and bass, and two step: Specific, limited
 production tricks and rhythms, that a producer should use once or twice
 and then try something new, become codified and serve as the basis of a
 thousand slight variations, all inferior to the original.  That there's
 a market for all that cheap repetition says something about the
utilitarian
 nature of dance music -- DJs always want something new and slamming, but
 it can't be so new they lose their audience.




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Re: [313] Re: Techno for funerals

2001-10-20 Thread Ville HyvXnen



Egyptian Lover: Girls
Egyptian Lover: Egypt, Egypt
Egyptian Lover: Dance
Egyptian Lover: You´re So Fine
Egyptian Lover: Lover

Ville


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Re: [313] santos rodriguez

2001-10-20 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: [313] santos rodriguez


 Little question:

 is this guy producing under some aliases?
 Because cosmic id 001 is the only relase from santos rodriguez i´ve heard
 from (and I like it a lot).

Great question. I've been dieing to know this for a while too.

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[313] re:tech for my coffin!!

2001-10-20 Thread Rod Andres Alvarez
one of them would have to be john beltrans 'collage of dreams' -peacefrog 96
or 
speedcore if i was goin to hell...
peace!!


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[313] heiko laux

2001-10-20 Thread R - Type
one of the contenders for my best techno track would have to be
heiko laux's -earth bouncing pt1.  3 or 4 other tracks on that album come close 
too..


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Re: [313] Axis 09

2001-10-20 Thread Kevin Conrad
More Drama is actually Axis 006 which replaced
Drama (older Axis 006).  Axis 009 and 009B are just
untitled releases.  I have 009B and I think it's worth
it.  I'm not good at track descriptions so I'm not
going to attempt :)  I beleieve 009 is much harder to
find than 009B, which you might still be able to get
at recordcollectorinc.com (I got mine from there). 

Kevin

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 Which one do you mean? There's a Axis 009 and a Axis
 009b...
 Axis 009b is released much later and is called More
 drama.
 If you are Mills-addicted like me ;-) I think you
 need them both.
 Not the best releases of him but worth a check in
 every case!
 
 Cheers, Arne
 
 
 james boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 Is Axis 09 by Jeff Mills (originally distributed
 only via Hardwax in Germany 
 apparently) worth getting? Track description/rating
 anyone?
 

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Re: [313] Planet E - designer music

2001-10-20 Thread Southern Outpost
Good girls was released on Designer Music vol. 1. It was originally 
only released to Planet E subscribers back in the day. To my 
knowledge, it only got one addition limited repressing.


Happy hunting. :)

Peace,
Patrick.

At 2:16 PM +0200 20/10/01, Maarten Baute wrote:

Dear detroit techno lovers,

1 simple question:

on wich ep was Designer Music - Good Girls released?

I have the vol2 (the truth / problemz) and I have the vol. 1 on cd, but it
´s not on the cd either.. maybee the vinyl of designer music vol. 1 is
different than the cd version?

Greets,
Maarten


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Re: [313] santos rodriguez

2001-10-20 Thread scott mcgill
Supposedly rumoured that it is Oliver Ho.
Apparently he said once that the mysterious Santos Rodriguez is great and
gonna be one to watch.

Who knows? More of I hope in the future, that ep is the epitomy of good
tribal tecchno IMO.

Scott Mc

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Subject: [313] santos rodriguez


 Little question:

 is this guy producing under some aliases?
 Because cosmic id 001 is the only relase from santos rodriguez i´ve heard
 from (and I like it a lot).

 Greets,
 Maarten


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