[313] DEMF BBQUE sunday

2002-04-30 Thread phedx
We have a sound system, an sunday (without stopping the DEMF PARTY)
thinking of a get together just long enough for some food, beer, a meet an
greet some outta town tunes, an than back to the Fest/John Aquaviv @ the
motor whatever... looks like as good a day as any for the bbque.


just wondering if this is looking like a pigroast, or a  burger  hdogs
(some vegetable thi ngs for veggitaria ns but my tofu burger sucks (Sushi is
possible...)

post interest people (please/thank-you)

phedx


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[313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread henrique casanova


 because he is the most popular techno dj in the world.

 --someone wrote:

 so again we need to enter the question:

 why is he on so many photos ?


 
 
  5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
 
 
  whitewashing at it's finest
 
 
  *angry beyond measure*
 
 
  if it was 5 different white artists, then maybe i can understand.  But
if
  all five are of Richie, then i don't think this is whitewashing in the
  SLIGHTEST.  Say what you want, but richie is a far more popular and well
  recognized artist (please, don't just say because he's white), and most
  likely *that* is why so many of those pictures are of him.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread neon tse tse

why is he the most popular dj on the world ?

 --someone wrote:

 
 because he is the most popular techno dj in the world.
 
 --someone wrote:
 
 so again we need to enter the question:
 
 why is he on so many photos ?
 
 
 
 
 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
 
 
 whitewashing at it's finest
 
 
 *angry beyond measure*
 
 
 if it was 5 different white artists, then maybe i can understand.  But
 if
 all five are of Richie, then i don't think this is whitewashing in the
 SLIGHTEST.  Say what you want, but richie is a far more popular and well
 recognized artist (please, don't just say because he's white), and most
 likely *that* is why so many of those pictures are of him.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread neon tse tse
am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit.

very interesting -

how do you know that ?

what are your facts, making you say this ?



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Re: [313] Norm Talley in Portland...

2002-04-30 Thread james bucknell
i second that. norm talley's set at demf last year was fantastic. i think it
was the first set i heard last year. a great mix of deep house, jacking
chicago, and detroit. the three finest genres of dance music (well, at least
for me). 
james
www.jbucknell.com


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 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT)
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] Norm Talley in Portland...
 
 One of detroit's finest in house music graced our
 presence here in portland oregonnorm talley came
 and gave us some detroit deepnessit was a good
 show (although the turntables had problems with
 skipping) i really enjoy norm talley he was one of my
 favorite dj's that i saw on the c-pop stage last year
 at the DEMF. he handed out LOTS of cd's to
 everyone...i got 2 they are very very good...i hope he
 is playing somewhere this year around the DEMF...does
 anyone know if he is playing??? but overall i had a
 good time and i even talked to a fellow 313er
 
 michael
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Re: [313] hand clap track

2002-04-30 Thread james bucknell
i put up a (real audio) mix of mainly early dance mania tracks last week at
jbucknell.com. there's certainly a bit of hand clapping going on there. free
on cd for anybody in aust or nz.
what about the 808 cowbell? jacking tracks of handclaps and cowbells are
even better.
james



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 Subject: Re: [313] hand clap track
 
 favorite handclap track:
 
 mad mike - clap it up (happy claps)!!
 
 clap it up!!c'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon!!clap it up!!
 
 it's on the flipside of 'heartbeat of a groove' (happy trax #1)...aghhh!!
 wish i had a copy..
 
 there's gotta be some dope jacky handclap tracks on dancemania..?
 
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Re[2]: [313] hand clap track

2002-04-30 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
jb i put up a (real audio) mix of mainly early dance mania tracks last week at
jb jbucknell.com. there's certainly a bit of hand clapping going on there. free
jb on cd for anybody in aust or nz.
jb what about the 808 cowbell? jacking tracks of handclaps and cowbells are
jb even better.

I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.

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Re: [313] Norm Talley in Portland...

2002-04-30 Thread Erin Bate
Yeah he is..He said they were doing something at Harmonie Park...I 
believe on friday??

Pray for good weather!
~ E

Frank Zappa wrote:


One of detroit's finest in house music graced our
presence here in portland oregonnorm talley came
and gave us some detroit deepnessit was a good
show (although the turntables had problems with
skipping) i really enjoy norm talley he was one of my
favorite dj's that i saw on the c-pop stage last year
at the DEMF. he handed out LOTS of cd's to
everyone...i got 2 they are very very good...i hope he
is playing somewhere this year around the DEMF...does
anyone know if he is playing??? but overall i had a
good time and i even talked to a fellow 313er 


michael
www.renegaderhythms.com

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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Jayson B.




am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in 
detroit.


very interesting -

how do you know that ?

what are your facts, making you say this ?



why is it that when someone asks you a question, that you keep answering it 
with the similiar question?


Actual Facts?  don't have too many.

But the whole plastikman concept, the way richie markets his cd's and his 
persona, and the style that he plays, is just flat out more marketable than 
the way CC or D may or any of them.  Richie markets a style that goes along 
with his music, that goes beyond just the music.  And that style simply is 
more accepted than the styles of other artists.


how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white?




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[313] Re: demf website

2002-04-30 Thread fixer
Record Labels handle the marketing.  Maybe it's just how NovaMute handles 
this artist that you like better than others? 

Jayson B. writes: 

 

am 30.04.2002 0:47 Uhr schrieb Jayson B. unter 
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 ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in 
detroit. 

very interesting - 

how do you know that ? 


what are your facts, making you say this ?
 

why is it that when someone asks you a question, that you keep answering 
it with the similiar question? 

Actual Facts?  don't have too many. 

But the whole plastikman concept, the way richie markets his cd's and his 
persona, and the style that he plays, is just flat out more marketable 
than the way CC or D may or any of them.  Richie markets a style that goes 
along with his music, that goes beyond just the music.  And that style 
simply is more accepted than the styles of other artists. 

how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white? 

 



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[313] FW: Tipper live as 'Crunch' this wed. (L.A)

2002-04-30 Thread trichome


: e.l.m. conceptions / p a x :
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_


this wednesday (Los Angeles)
May 1'st
@ Zen


from Fuel Records uk

Tipper performing live as
  C R U N C H
 (musik aus strom)
 

along with e.l.m. curators:

tl smith - electro
 
R D -  experimental

and: 
the Fuel Cars!!


10pm-2am
$8 @ the door
21+
2609 Hyperion Ave.
in Silverlake


-for more info. visit:
  the experimental liquor museum
  www.elmconceptions.com
 time equals art-
 

./innovation lies underground\.

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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread kyle jay


die, thread, die.  dead.  done.

 why is he the most popular dj on the world ?



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Re: [313] tikiman+scion in toronto

2002-04-30 Thread Wes
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Kim B wrote:

 Another duo that will be playing in Toronto this weekend.

This threesome is actually due in town on Saturday, May 11.

Should be a fine time in store for all...



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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread neon tse tse

 how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white?
 

No, he´s not popular, because of that -

Mr Hawtin deserves some respect for his work, for sure

But others do deserve the same respect -

so we should take care that no one is KING of 

the tendency to lift Richie so high are in danger to create a king

and if there´s a 5 to 6 difference on that page - that´s strange

Why I think this way ?

As I also work in the music-world I used to meet quite a few journalists

ad musicians warning me in general like: black people are difficult -

some were warning me that for example 4 hero are difficult,

some people were saying theo parrish is difficult -

meeting them in person resulted in some of the best talks

I ever did have - learnt much, chatted much, laughed much, -

But if this phenomenan watch out - difficult is also around in the US

and I think it is, it does have a effect how black intelectual techno
 
artists get placed the media -

and this is just a little example of the media-game -

Let´s say there´s this URB-magazine or so,  maybe they sell better with

a black artist on the cover, maybe with a white artist, maybe better

with male or a female artist ?

but if it does make a difference to their business, what do you think

they will do ? -yes, they will take care that the better selling race/gender

is selected - all those aspects (many many more) work on the popularity

of artists - 

this is why *we* prefer to focus this

because there is so much of this stuff working undercover

I won´t deny that focusing can also bring problems -

but this is the next level - we ain´t there by now

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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread yussel
Actually-

from issues 25-90, Urb featured minority artist (mostly black) on 33 out
of 65 covers. That's over 50%

you can see them at www.urb.com  /click: back issues

ironically, according the the US census burea, 75% of the population is
white.

and richie's only been on the cover once.








On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, neon tse tse wrote:


  how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white?
 

 No, he?s not popular, because of that -

 Mr Hawtin deserves some respect for his work, for sure

 But others do deserve the same respect -

 so we should take care that no one is KING of 

 the tendency to lift Richie so high are in danger to create a king

 and if there?s a 5 to 6 difference on that page - that?s strange

 Why I think this way ?

 As I also work in the music-world I used to meet quite a few journalists

 ad musicians warning me in general like: black people are difficult -

 some were warning me that for example 4 hero are difficult,

 some people were saying theo parrish is difficult -

 meeting them in person resulted in some of the best talks

 I ever did have - learnt much, chatted much, laughed much, -

 But if this phenomenan watch out - difficult is also around in the US

 and I think it is, it does have a effect how black intelectual techno

 artists get placed the media -

 and this is just a little example of the media-game -

 Let?s say there?s this URB-magazine or so,  maybe they sell better with

 a black artist on the cover, maybe with a white artist, maybe better

 with male or a female artist ?

 but if it does make a difference to their business, what do you think

 they will do ? -yes, they will take care that the better selling race/gender

 is selected - all those aspects (many many more) work on the popularity

 of artists -

 this is why *we* prefer to focus this

 because there is so much of this stuff working undercover

 I won?t deny that focusing can also bring problems -

 but this is the next level - we ain?t there by now

 out



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[313] Jeff Mills @ Winkel van Sinkel, Utrecht, Netherlands last night

2002-04-30 Thread W Lammerts
He Rocked!

period.

W


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Re: [313] tikiman+scion in Toronto

2002-04-30 Thread Neil

its acctually may 11th not next weekend, I really hope people dont show up
this weekend other wise all my hard work to put on this show has gone into
the toilet :)
the full details are located here:
www.techno.ca/clonk
as for toronto being spoiled well i would not put it so plainly like that.
there are a select few people who work very and I mean very hard to make
these events happen such as: clonk, feedback monitor, technot, building
blocks/fukhouse, mission, blue the ambient ping, electric workers...
for the most part we all try hard to help each other out in some manner
and its that sort of helping hand that helps a city like toronto to have
such events occur. I think if there was most helping hands in other cities
rather then back stabbing or every one reliying on one person to do the
job alone things would be similar to toronto all over.
I think the hardest thing of all is that toronto has yet to be reconized
as the backbone of candian techno long befor montreal ever became the
media darlings they are. I think what happens is that toronto folks are
slightly frustrated with how our long electronic music history is
dismissed in the eyes of the world when toronto is the city is started in
in canada. oh well all we do is work harder and make it that much more
better...
for example clonk will be doing a 3 day stage at the om festival this year
with headliners like todd sines and kero plus 45 other artists on our
stage alone. So this tikiman show is just the tip of te ice berg of whats
to come in the summer and early fall for clonk another example of where we
are headed is in the early fall we are hoping to bring in another chain
reaction artist one that has never played in canada befor...
name to be told apon confirmation of this artist in the next few weeks...
so yes we get alot of shows but I would not say we are spoiled...

neil
aka naw
clonk artistic director

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 Another duo that will be playing in Toronto this weekend.  Will post a

 Toronto is so spoiled when it comes to good music ;0).

 cheers
 K.



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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Jayson B.



- the information in the pictures on the DEMF-page is currently 
transporting


the same conclusion -

and this is wrong information - this is what I was saying



what makes this information wrong?  what facts do you have to support that 
it is wrong?




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RE: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread FC3 Richards
i'll answer this one!


 ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else
in detroit.

very interesting -

how do you know that ?

what are your facts, making you say this ?

He is the only Detroit artist that I have seen lately that has had an ad in
a magazine from Detroit lately.  DJT-1000 had an ad for The Last DJ on
Earth CD, but it only took up a quarter of the page from top to bottom.
Richie Hawting on the other hand has thrown his picture out and made it
recognizable with full page ads, huge posters, and stickers handed out all
over the place.  He has made the m_nus symbol almost as recognizable as his
face.

there is no point in arguing it...he just knows how to market himself.  he
isn't ge greatest everbut he is damn good.

Peace


Jeff


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  ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in
 detroit.
 
 very interesting -
 
 how do you know that ?
 
 what are your facts, making you say this ?
 
 
 
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Re: Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Michael D Tyrer
sorry - have one work to this - rhyms with sucks and starts with boll
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how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white?


because we take the time to think/study the world at a level that goes
beyond the superficial...because we look at the world with a critical
eye..because we care enough about humanity to study/learn/understand
concepts of institutional priviledge etc..

i have nothing against richie..he is a great artist..he however has also
benefitted greatly from racial priveledge.._that_ is what has made him more
accessible and _that_ is what has made him popular and _that_ is why his
picture gets overplayed



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RE: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor

It also helps that he is one of the hardest workers in Detroit.

From my dealings with the people who have made it or whatever you want to 
call it, the thing that separates all of them is that they work very hard. 
Talent will only take you so far, it all comes down to how hard you work at 
it.


There are a lot of people who want to sit around, smoke dope, not return 
phone calls and not work in the studio who think race is the reason they are 
not blowing up. I do not care what color your skin is, your work ethic 
determines where you end up. Hawtin sells more records than me for a reason, 
he workers harder and smarter than I do.


Where Kharris is coming from, and where I agree with her, it that his image 
is much easier to market than say Juan Atkins. It is much easier for an AR 
or marketing exec to comprehend you and your weird science fiction music 
when you are a skinny white dude who wears funny glasses and jump suits. The 
larger music industry, in which Hawtin has an advantage, cannot comprehend 
and sell an image of a middle aged black dude from Detroit making weird 
electronic music from outer space. The only thing black they know how to 
sell is rap music and sex jams, period.


This is where race comes into it. Because of Hawtin's skin color, he can 
play on stereotypes that black artists do not have access to. In the small 
indie-dance scene, I do not think color is as big of an issue. In the larger 
industry, where real money is made and where culture at large is 
manufactured, black artists who do not play off of black stereotypes do not 
get signed. Any good Detroit Techno artist is at odds with those racial 
stereotypes in the US music industry, and therefore cannot get ahead. Black 
people don't make sci-fi music, they make songs about sex, greed, and 
violence(unless they are conscious brothers, and then they make typical 
conscious brother music...)


All of that being said, I think that if a lot of the black dudes who cry 
race worked as hard and were as talented as Hawtin, they would be selling a 
hell of a lot more records. The glass ceiling is definitely there, but most 
dudes will never hit it because they do not have what it takes to get that 
far. Juan is a perfect example of somebody who has hit that ceiling. Jeff 
Mills has hit that ceiling. To avoid that ceiling Carl Craig is referencing 
jazz and RB. Race had nothing to do with why some people have not gotten as 
far Mr. Mills, Mr. Craig, or Mr. Atkins. I do not care what color you are, 
if you have talent and tenacity, you will get ahead in this business.


Take care,
mt


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To: 'neon tse tse' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] demf website
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:21:19 -0700

i'll answer this one!


 ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else
in detroit.

very interesting -

how do you know that ?

what are your facts, making you say this ?

He is the only Detroit artist that I have seen lately that has had an ad in
a magazine from Detroit lately.  DJT-1000 had an ad for The Last DJ on
Earth CD, but it only took up a quarter of the page from top to bottom.
Richie Hawting on the other hand has thrown his picture out and made it
recognizable with full page ads, huge posters, and stickers handed out all
over the place.  He has made the m_nus symbol almost as recognizable as his
face.

there is no point in arguing it...he just knows how to market himself.  he
isn't ge greatest everbut he is damn good.

Peace


Jeff


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  ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in
 detroit.

 very interesting -

 how do you know that ?

 what are your facts, making you say this ?



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Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Fred Heutte
Remember this about Urb: it reflects to a large and admirable degree
the market it is in.  As of the 2000 census, there are 10 million people
in Los Angeles:

   31%  Caucasian non-Latino
   10%  African-American
   12%  Asian-American 
   45%  Latino (white and other races)

Raymond Roker, the publisher of Urb, may have his limitations, but he
saw the future in LA and successfully developed Urb in that direction.
Thus it has become musically and culturally a far broader magazine than
almost anything else out there.  

What magazine in Detroit can say the same?  I give some credit to
Metro Times, but even they fall short in my humble outsider view.
(so did my old long-forgotten paper, the Unicorn Times in DC, but let's
not bring up *archeology* shall we!)  What real coverage does MT really
give to the Arab-American community not to mention other groups and
areas outside central Detroit (it is Metro Times after all!). 
But I used to work for a paper like that so I know what kind of monetary
limits they are dealing with.  All the same, vision is reflected in what
you put in print...

Of course, along those lines, to be sure, Raymond does have a weakness for 
putting the Chemicals, Armand, Wink, etc. etc. on the covers.  I see him 
as sort of the Jann Wenner of the 1990s in some ways (of course, Rolling 
Stone ain't what it used to be, and neither is Urb).  You should *see* 
Rolling Stone from circa 1969-70.  A real mindblower of a magazine.  As 
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RE: [313] ellen allien. [was: Re: [313] Akufen]

2002-04-30 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
Yea Ellen Allien has her moments, I think most of her DJing is lame, but
her production has potential.  

 Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/29/02 18:32 PM 

She nearly put me to sleep when she played open air in nyc a couple of 
weeks ago 

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I've never seen someone rock so hard while they spun...I got to see her
in
Chicago and she just about killed me.  I couldn't walk for days.  People
who
had gone just to see Ms. Kittin kept asking, who IS that chick?  I've
bought bpitch every frickin time someone throws a dollar in my hat ever
since...

-dina
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 I agree with you fully that Ellen Allien is an amazing DJ.  Her
production
 of the Stadkind CD is so tight.  I had the pleasure of hearing her
spin
here
 in Toronto recently and was blown away by the intelligence and
programming
 of her set...

 cheers
 K.

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[313] heh.

2002-04-30 Thread Joe Stanievich

i wonder if he'd autograph it if i ran into him sometime?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1824952509

HEH.

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RE: [313] tikiman+scion in scotland

2002-04-30 Thread Alasdair Lyon
Yes, while speaking to Rene he told me about it.  It's a cross between a mix
and a remix of basic channel stuff.  I think tikiman might be on it too.  It
should be out in the summer.

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 Speaking of Scion, I've seen this on some list of upcoming EFA releases:
 SCION Arrange And Process Basic Channel Tracks CD Tresor / 200CD
 Anyone knows anything about this?

 Jernej
 SoundOfLJ.com

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   I saw Tikiman and Scion in Glasgow at the weekend.  They played an
  excellent
   combined set with Peter (substance) playing records, Rene (vainquer)
   handling the essential fx and Tikimans beautiful vocals on top of it
 all.
   Full of their trademark Berlin sounds they mostly played the
 rhythm and
   sound material, though I didn't know the last two tracks which had
 slower,
   more traditional reggae rhythms.
 
  Sounds like these could be Burial Mix tracks?
 
  Tristan
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RE: [313] tikiman+scion in scotland

2002-04-30 Thread Alasdair Lyon
No, they weren't Burial Mix tunes.  However, Tikiman is involved with other
bands, so it could be those as I don't know his other material so well.

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  I saw Tikiman and Scion in Glasgow at the weekend.  They played an
 excellent
  combined set with Peter (substance) playing records, Rene (vainquer)
  handling the essential fx and Tikimans beautiful vocals on top
 of it all.
  Full of their trademark Berlin sounds they mostly played the rhythm and
  sound material, though I didn't know the last two tracks which
 had slower,
  more traditional reggae rhythms.

 Sounds like these could be Burial Mix tracks?

 Tristan
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Re: [313] What, Me Worry?

2002-04-30 Thread tom churchill
 Also finally got the Future Beat Alliance on Emoticon...Head Ways is
 awesome!!

Glad you like it :)

Just a quick reminder to the list that EMOT 008, Scape One's 'Fizzy Soda' EP
is shipping this Friday, and should be available in stores next week. You
can check out the audio samples on the website (see below). Four tracks of
electro with a twist...

Also scheduled for release over the next couple of months are EPs from Jeff
Samuel, Connective Zone and Russ Gabriel...

Cheers,

Tom

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[313] footwork event in london tomorrow

2002-04-30 Thread tom churchill
Posting this on behalf of a friend - looks good... ( sorry if this appears
twice)

::

Footwork Records  IS12 presents

*Motion Detector*

Wednesday May 1

Market Place, 11 Market Place, w1  (jst off great portland street)

8.00 - 12.00

House / Electro / RB / Soul

Special Guest:
77 Productions aka DJ Heart (Trackmode NYC / Optional Xtras)

Residents:
Laszlo Kovacs
Louis Digital

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[313] Re: Scape One (was What, Me Worry?)

2002-04-30 Thread stewart
 Just a quick reminder to the list that EMOT 008, Scape One's 'Fizzy Soda' EP
 is shipping this Friday, and should be available in stores next week. You
 can check out the audio samples on the website (see below). Four tracks of
 electro with a twist...

Yeah I'll second this. A wicked EP of electro that manages to be very cool, but 
also with loads of energy to it. Definatly worth checking. As is the new 
Dimension 5 12 on Delsin, Dark Cities. If you liked the album and the first 12 
then you are going to get this anyway, but if you missed D5's earlier stuff 
then you owe it to yourself and your love of good pure techno music to hunt 
them down.

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[313] Speedy J uno

2002-04-30 Thread Gary_Girard



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I thought I should share my internet record shopping joy with you all today
:O)

I ordered some records yesterday afternoon from www.juno.co.uk and they
arrived this morning!

Now that's what I call good service!

Gary 'Happy as Larry' G


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Re: [313] Speedy J uno

2002-04-30 Thread robin pinning


yeah this always happens with me and junototally recommended...now if
they could get their sound samples to be longer and showcase more of the
tracks on an ep


robin...




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Re: [313] Speedy J uno

2002-04-30 Thread Berislav

for me from england to croatia, one week.
juno is good, but last time a had much happier experience wtih groovetech,
records arrived in 5 days, and guys show with packages on my door.

that moment i knew how a little child can be happy sometimes :)

b.

 I thought I should share my internet record shopping joy with you all
today
 :O)

 I ordered some records yesterday afternoon from www.juno.co.uk and they
 arrived this morning!

 Now that's what I call good service!

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Re: [313] Eramus Hall

2002-04-30 Thread Jonny McIntosh
The reissue of his previously ridiculously rare LP, Your Love Is My Desire
should be pretty easy to find now. It's great. There's also another LP (also
on Westbound) that hasn't been reissued which, to an extent, duplicates the
tracklisting. It's all Detroit and P Funk related - as I seem to recall the
other LP makes clear in the credits.

 dudes any one here knows of any re-issues stuff by this dude
 on vinyl?
 massive elektro-funk.
 y.



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Re: Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread kyle jay

 sorry - have one work to this - rhyms with sucks and starts with boll

otra vez, en ingles, por favor.




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Re: Re: [313] demf website

2002-04-30 Thread Gary_Girard



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I think what Mike is trying to say is this -
Sorry, I have one word for this - rhymes with sucks and starts with boll!

He's expressing his disagreement regarding previous comments about why
Richie Hawtin is so successful!
Personally I think it's because he's White (JOKE!)

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Re: [313] abadmutha down?

2002-04-30 Thread Gerald
I noticed it was down a few months ago, and asked the same question.

I never got a response, so i'm assuming it's finished.

G

James Hurlbut wrote:
 
 I just went to check out the mixes on abadmutha.com and it looks like the
 site is down, anyone know if thats just a temporary thing? I knew I should
 have saved them. But the good news is that it looks like Andrew Duke is
 reviving the cognition audioworks site, looking foward to that.
 
 jamie.hurlbut
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Re: [313] Speedy J uno

2002-04-30 Thread :P
g, I was like speedy j???!?  where??

grr

-Joe

:)


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 for me from england to croatia, one week.
 juno is good, but last time a had much happier experience wtih groovetech,
 records arrived in 5 days, and guys show with packages on my door.

 that moment i knew how a little child can be happy sometimes :)

 b.

  I thought I should share my internet record shopping joy with you all
 today
  :O)
 
  I ordered some records yesterday afternoon from www.juno.co.uk and they
  arrived this morning!
 
  Now that's what I call good service!
 
  Gary 'Happy as Larry' G



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Re: [313] FW: Tipper live as 'Crunch' this wed. (L.A)

2002-04-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Cool - I just picked up a Tipper 12 - if you like Radioactive Man then you
might be entertained by Tipper as well. It ain't your usual nu skool break
beats.






  trichome  

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as 'Crunch' this wed.  (L.A)
  04/29/02 09:20 PM 











: e.l.m. conceptions / p a x :
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_


this wednesday (Los Angeles)
May 1'st
@ Zen


from Fuel Records uk

Tipper performing live as
  C R U N C H
 (musik aus strom)


along with e.l.m. curators:

tl smith - electro

R D -  experimental

and:
the Fuel Cars!!


10pm-2am
$8 @ the door
21+
2609 Hyperion Ave.
in Silverlake


-for more info. visit:
  the experimental liquor museum
  www.elmconceptions.com
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Re: [313] Speedy J uno

2002-04-30 Thread yussel
new 12 out this month

album in June



On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, :P wrote:

 g, I was like speedy j???!?  where??

 grr

 -Joe

 :)


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  for me from england to croatia, one week.
  juno is good, but last time a had much happier experience wtih groovetech,
  records arrived in 5 days, and guys show with packages on my door.
 
  that moment i knew how a little child can be happy sometimes :)
 
  b.
 
   I thought I should share my internet record shopping joy with you all
  today
   :O)
  
   I ordered some records yesterday afternoon from www.juno.co.uk and they
   arrived this morning!
  
   Now that's what I call good service!
  
   Gary 'Happy as Larry' G
 
 
 
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[313] sample id

2002-04-30 Thread Neil Wallace

there is a disco drum loop used by amongst others:

carl craig - chicken noodle soup
easy e - last track on easy does it
blake baxter

anyone know what it is?

cheers

neil

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[313] Isolee - home page

2002-04-30 Thread Toby Frith
Do Isolee have a home page at all?



www.bleep43.com




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[313] Q about robert hoods last realeses.

2002-04-30 Thread Yair Etziony
howdee i have the kick dirt EP and its i like it, i know that he got many
new 12 from then.
any recomedations?
Y

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[313] 7th city 20?

2002-04-30 Thread Yair Etziony
just saw this one any info about it? i do not know the names
kind regards
y

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[313] 3 Chairs European Dates

2002-04-30 Thread laura gavoor

Upon request...
3 CHAIRS EUROPEAN TOUR DATES:

May 10  The Arches / Glasgow
May 11  Nt'l. Ctre. for Pop Music / Sheffield
May 12  Plastic People / London
May 16  Scheune / Dresden
May 17  Sam Lord / Frankfurt
May 18  Stern Radio / Berlin
May 19  Lille Vega / Copenhagen

Second European tour in October/November

Inquiries to:

Laura Gavoor
Yin-Sight Management
248-851-6436  fon
248-851-6521  fax

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:29:03 +0200

hi Laura

Can you maybe provide a full list of the dates '3 Chairs' are doing in 
Europe?


Maybe I'm gonna catch them abroad...

Thanks!

Marsel



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[313] Re: Scape One (was What, Me Worry?)

2002-04-30 Thread Stephen Kelly
yeah - i'll third it on the scape one ep on emoticon (think it's my 
favourite emoticon of the bunch) and the new dimension5 on delsin.. top 
class.. i'll add the derek carr on digital soul since it would be rude of 
stuart to plug himself ;)


and what's anybodies thought's on the stephen brown twelve on transmat 
then?.. nice sleeve, shame about the.


;)

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RE: [313] Re: Scape One (was What, Me Worry?)

2002-04-30 Thread Yair Etziony
allways nice the stuff from dimetion5.
what about the new tiger-sushi label kick starting with a remix from john
tejada to some kraut rock band?
y.


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yeah - i'll third it on the scape one ep on emoticon (think it's my 
favourite emoticon of the bunch) and the new dimension5 on delsin.. top 
class.. i'll add the derek carr on digital soul since it would be rude of 
stuart to plug himself ;)

and what's anybodies thought's on the stephen brown twelve on transmat 
then?.. nice sleeve, shame about the.

;)

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[313] Edinburgh - Si Begg

2002-04-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




  SI BEGG performing live as S I FUTURES. The night will be at La Belle 
  Angelle, from 10.30pm - 3.00am and admission will be £8.  








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Re: [313] Edinburgh - Si Begg

2002-04-30 Thread Moe Fuzz
Speaking of Si Begg, everyone should check out his new track Semi Detached 
Utopia on the Other Mistakes Ep on Herbert's label. That track is totally 
sick!!!




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Re: [313] detroit quality

2002-04-30 Thread Neontsetse

thanks for the info bout URB

50/50 quote is very positive to me and gives hope -

 There are a lot of people who want to sit around, smoke dope, not return
 phone calls and not work in the studio who think race is the reason they are
 not blowing up. I do not care what color your skin is, your work ethic
 determines where you end up. Hawtin sells more records than me for a reason,
 he workers harder and smarter than I do.

- this again is also supporting old stereotypes - did you realize that ?

my experience is this:

any deals, interviews etc.. with Detroit artists I was involved in

were transacted on a professional level and including high quality results -

I can imagine some artists are not like this, as many artists are anywhere

but better think of the big amount of serious hard working Detroit artists

Richie is one of them -

one of many 

and beside that - what do you think about...

when the Burden Brothers did put money into submerge for supporting it ?

when Mike Banks just built up the new submerge-house with others ?

when three chairs tour is supporting various artists, not only single egos ?

when some artists don´t join the DEMF to stay loyal to Carl ?

when SOS is putting power into suporting Techno on Detroit-radio ?

... 

all this is about work ! and sharing powers - basics for the community

the philosphy: Richie is the far most ... 

is only showing how some expectations of a normal hierarchic mind -

using some popularity constructions of Pop-Media

to proove the vision of the superior man


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Re: [313] Re: Scape One

2002-04-30 Thread tom churchill
And another tune I forgot to mention:

Louis Digial  Laszlo Kovaks - Change Position EP (Footwork)
The people behind the London party I plugged earlier with the debut release
on this new label from the Detroit/London IS12 collective, distributed
through Ideal. Four strong tracks of hard-hitting, dancefloor-aimed,
RB-biting house material which will find a place in the box of many house
and techno DJs alike. To be followed up shortly by 'House Ballads Part One'
12 from Detroit's unsung hero Mark Flash - definitely a label and
collective to watch this year. You heard it here first :)

More info etc. soon at www.footworkrecords.com

Cheers,

Tom

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[313] ~scape sc12

2002-04-30 Thread Anya Stang
Bit OT I spose, still...

staedtizism 3 instrumentals
http://www.scape-music.de/releases/instrumentals.html
to be released end of this month.
Tracklisting looks good, anyone
heard this yet? : )
Cheers,

Anya

Leverkusen's in the Final, yay!!
; )


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[313] Andrew Pekler Re: [313] ~scape sc12

2002-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
I got ahold of a copy Station to Station by Andrew Pekler on ~scape this 
weekend. It is pretty weak for the most part; take some jazz guys, record 
their jams, and hack them up in post-production. It doesn't really go 
anywhere, it is just noodly cut-ups.


There is one decent track that would fit in with the first couple 
Pan-American LP's. The record is not horrible, but your record money could 
be better spent elsewhere.




From: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] ~scape  sc12
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:54:55 +0100

Bit OT I spose, still...

staedtizism 3 instrumentals
http://www.scape-music.de/releases/instrumentals.html
to be released end of this month.
Tracklisting looks good, anyone
heard this yet? : )
Cheers,

Anya

Leverkusen's in the Final, yay!!
; )


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[313] OT- dope noir.

2002-04-30 Thread Super Coffee Beans
any info about this label???
i heared some great stuff from them
y


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[313] Mole people

2002-04-30 Thread FC3 Richards
who is behind this??  i got the first one I have ever seen MOPE 04 and
havn't seen or heard of any others.  am i missing out on something, here??

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[313] Ben Sims - New Mix CD

2002-04-30 Thread Michael D Tyrer
Had the great pleasure of hearing Ben Sims in Both Manchester and London
over the weekend as part of the promotional tour for his new mix CD.
(Escapism Part/One on Primal Rythms) I am very impressed by the CD and have
had great difficulty ejecting it from my CD player these last few days!!

Ben played alongside John Warwick in both venues.  (Oliver Ho was up in
Manchester with him but could not match Ben's tempo or energy).  John
Warwick is not a DJ I am concious of having heard before before but he has a
wicked upbeat style and I would really recommend if you see his name that
you go check him out.

For whats it worth I know people are interested in track listings so I am
listing the tunes on Bens' CD below

intro / ben sims and marc 133
the deep / archetype
tied @ 137 / marc 133
night / oliver ho
warrior dub / steve o'sullivan
dolce gabbana / samuel.l.sessions
primitive streak remix / steve bicknell
unwanted remix / rue east
black forest / gary martin
under the counter / rue east vs ben sims
blackwater / octave one
set up / james ruskin
get down on your knees / regis
scout / jeff mills
alien cia agent / tbc
incidents /  abelde
in the jungle / ben sims
tribal life / hayden andre
life / life
nairobi remix / kirk degiorgio
b3 / k.elxi shelby
battle against time / jeremdam
the truth / ben sims
third eye / aural emote
coming full circle / quiet daze
the basics / ben sims
where my guerilla's at / stay
sounds like / paul mac
galaxy / bfc
this is code red remix / adam beyer
love story / andrew mclauchen
mighty / jeff mills
tokyo rose / dj shufflemaster
midnite clubs tracks 2  / surgeon
birmingham remix / rue east
momento en el tiempo / ben sims
friends, family and lovers / oscar mulero
ritual fire dance / gary martin
mas suave / mas suave
untitled #3 / ben sims
remanipulated re-edit / ben sims


Regards
Mike Tyrer


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