Re: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance

2002-09-19 Thread counterpoint69
dude I hate trance too man but at least some people are getting into 
electronic music with trance. I moved away from Detroit to London and at 
least some people here appreciate at least one form of 4/4 electronic music 
here... even if it is trance :(   

Maybe... (music plays) someday they will see the light... (music fades out) :-)

btw moby has soul man... 
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 is that love I feel?
 
 come give me a hug
 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:45 PM
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  Don't have any or one
  You're funny dude! Way funny!
  
  
  At 05:25 PM 9/18/2002, you wrote:
  soul is overrated
  
  
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Trance  commercial,progressive Does SUCK, lets get
that straight! It has no Soul(BT, Moby and all of
them)
and anyone who support that stuff is on the wrong
message board this is the 313 board.
   
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[313] An old mix

2002-09-19 Thread Tristan Watkins
I haven't posted a mix in a long time, and I've been limited to a few mixes
for listening while in a transitory mode. I've been really itching to share
a new mix forever but two of my recent live mixes got f*cked up in the
recording, so I thought I'd share this one from early '99 if anyone is
looking for Real Audio goodies. I've listened to it a lot lately and it
brought back a lot of good musical memeories, particularly the first four
tracks, and my favorite techno song ever, Clark (Mark Bell) - Clip. Here's
the link and tracklist:

http://www.fluxional.com/iowacityunderground/audio/ramfiles/tristanmix.ram

  Theo Parrish - Sweet Sticky - PeaceFrog (UK)

  Urban Tribe - D2000 - Mo' Wax (UK)

  Paperclip People - 4 My Peepz - Planet E (US)

  D.S.L. - Soothe Your Soul - Chili Funk (UK)

  Roy Davis Jr. - Black River - Lazyboy (US)

  Herbert - Going Round - Phono (UK)

  Smyglyssna - Insvept I Papper - Plug Research (US)

  Entertainment - Joyful Pool - Bigelow (?)

  Midnight Drive - Remember Me? (Freaks Tunring Yellow Dub) - Classic (UK)

  YMC - F-Connection - Yoshi Toshi (US)

  Cari Lekebusch - Omslaget Motiverat - Hybrid (Sweden)

  Wyndell Long - Still Photo - Elypsia (Belgium)

  Richard Bartz - The Traveller - Kurbel (Germany)

  Mr. James Barth - Stealin' Music - SVEK (Sweden)

  Clark - Clip - Planet E (US)

  CRo2 - Can't Let Go - Trace Elements (US)

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RE: [313] Can anyone id this

2002-09-19 Thread Chau, Dang
ha ha this reminds of the phunky acid bubblebath parties in sydney from back 
when...

members of the house - these are my people - not sure which mix 

original track was released on shockwave but this mix (by UR?) came out on the 
TrueLove label (though i've only ever seen this as a white label so not sure if 
this ever got a proper release) 
btw there's also another release on Truelove with different set of mixes by UR 
as well anorak off


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that's an old UR record from like 1990 . I think it might be the one on
Shockwave - can someone else expand on that???

rc

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Re: [313]phunky acid bubblebath (was Can anyone id this)

2002-09-19 Thread james bucknell
do you remember who played at these parties?
james
www.jbucknell.com


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 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:54:47 +0800
 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] Can anyone id this
 
 ha ha this reminds of the phunky acid bubblebath parties in sydney from back
 when...
 
 members of the house - these are my people - not sure which mix
 
 original track was released on shockwave but this mix (by UR?) came out on the
 TrueLove label (though i've only ever seen this as a white label so not sure
 if this ever got a proper release)
 btw there's also another release on Truelove with different set of mixes by UR
 as well anorak off
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [313] Can anyone id this
 
 
 that's an old UR record from like 1990 . I think it might be the one on
 Shockwave - can someone else expand on that???
 
 rc
 
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 http://www.teklan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dara.ram
 
 For a friend
 
 
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[313] derrick may

2002-09-19 Thread ryan burns


i saw this on ebay.  can anyone give me some info on it?
Kramer dashwood ron hardys ghost derrick may mix


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Re: [313] audio streams

2002-09-19 Thread doris non-woo
paxahau

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, ryan burns wrote:

 
 whats is the correct spelling for the web site that streams dj sets out of 
 detroit??  PAXOUX?  i cant remember how to spell the name.
 can anyone help me
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Re: [313] commercial/progressive no Trance

2002-09-19 Thread Ian
On 9/18/02 7:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 btw moby has soul man...

Too bad it's all sampled.

My gravest apologies to the 313 community for taking Moby bait.  Seems the
list in another rut lately.
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P.S. Matrix mix from UK313 party was quite nice.  Cheers.


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[313] Fw: ELECTROVOODOO, FISCHERSPOONER, LADYTRON, MISS KITTIN RGC BEYOND!

2002-09-19 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
Greetings press hounds.

We'd like to inform you of some sublime, maybe a touch sleazy but good for
the soul forthcoming events.

Electrovoodoo, based at Liverpool's Lomax venue has secured some of the
finest electronic music artists the planet has to offer for a series of
Autumn events. After Electrovoodoo's triumphant launch in September with
Laurent Garnier, who absolutely rocked by the way, Electrovoodoo steps up a
gear with electroclash and International Deejay Gigolo's French star, Miss
Kittin, alongside London's Rotters Golf Club tour featuring arch electronic
genius' - DJ Andrew Weatherall  Keith Tenniswood's amazing Simpsons
nomenclature inspired, Radioactive Man live show on Friday 11th October.

Into November...
We proudly announce the appearance of high art, New York electroclash
superstars Fischerspooner's tour, with dates at the soon to open Lomax Stoke
on Friday 8th November and on Saturday 9th November the New Yorkers head up
the M6 to perform at Lomax, Liverpool for what is sure to be another sell
out event. Fischerspooner's stage shows are a work of art in there own right
and combined with their exhilarating and emotive electronic music we're sure
these two dates will thrust them into future!

Furthermore we'd like to further announce the imminent arrival of
Liverpool's very own Ladytron who will be performing their first Liverpool
gig for three years! on Friday 15th November at Electrovoodoo! After the
success of their previous Lp(604) and singles, which featured remixes from
Felix Da Housekatt amongst others, they release their new material in the UK
this Autumn! On the same bill we have City rockers DJ Damien Lazarus plus
the Northern UK debut of Afro-Germanic electro emperor - Anthony Rother
performing an uber rare UK live set!

And moving slightly further into the future we proudly announce that on
Friday 13th December(lucky for us) Electrovoodoo have for your pleasure, a
man who's released over 100 singles, DJ'd for Prince(yes the purple one) and
produces some of the most mind blowing mixes, as heard on Radio 1 - from the
USA, the legend that is - Mr Freddy Fresh! alongside International Deejay
Gigolos and Planet Rouges' Terence Fixmer Live! plus the Electrix Records
Tour with Transparent Sound Live! with Electrix head honcho and DJ
extraordinaire, Billy Nasty slipping into the future with an electro-tech
set!! And quite possibly more on the same bill!

The full event list.

FRI 11TH OCT
ELECTROVOODOO
MISS KITTIN
ANDREW WEATHERALL
RADIOACTIVE MAN LIVE!
STEVE SHIELS
10PM TIL 4AM @ LOMAX PARR ST LIVERPOOL
£12ADV/MEMBS/NUS

FRI 8TH NOV
ELECTROVOODOO, LOMAX  HELTER SKELTER PRESENT
FISCHERSPOONER
PLUS SUPPORT
10PM - 2AM @ LOMAX HILL ST STOKE-ON-TRENT
£16.50ADV

SAT 9TH NOV
ELECTROVOODOO, LOMAX  HELTER SKELTER PRESENT
FISCHERSPOONER
PLUS SUPPORT
10PM - 3AM @ THE LOMAX, PARR ST LIVERPOOL
£16.50ADV

FRI 15TH NOV
ELECTROVOODOO  PRIMARY PRESENT
LADYTRON (on stage 10.15pm!)
PLUS
ANTHONY ROTHER LIVE!
DAMIEN LAZARUS(CITY ROCKERS)
STEVE SHIELS
9PM! TIL 4AM @ LOMAX PARR ST LIVERPOOL
£12ADV/NUS/MEMBS

News on NYE very soon plus more events and gigs!

If there's nothing that excites you here, you've either had a charisma
bi pass or you're dead.
Well maybe that's a tad harsh

Electrovoodoo-out!

Further details, reviews/guest list and most importantly if you require
guest list places or tickets for competitions,

please contact

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T : +44(0)151 236 4443 (office)
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RE: [313] steve rachmad/label info

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Taylor
http://www.musicmanrecords.net/

http://www.rotationrecords.com/
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Subject: [313] steve rachmad/label info


does anyone know if the Music Man or Rotation labels have web sites?
how about an online bio for rachmad?
thanks
barry
www.acidsonicresearch.com
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Re: [313] steve rachmad/label info

2002-09-19 Thread Maarten Baute
 http://www.rotationrecords.com/

this has nothing to do with dave angel´s label though!


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RE: [313] steve rachmad/label info

2002-09-19 Thread Wibo Lammerts
he doesn't have a computer and e-mail...

W

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does anyone know if the Music Man or Rotation labels have web sites?
how about an online bio for rachmad?
thanks
barry
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Fw: [313] derrick may

2002-09-19 Thread Maarten Baute

last message didn´t get thru because of th word p*ssy

 last message did not come thru

   i saw this on ebay.  can anyone give me some info on it?
   Kramer dashwood ron hardys ghost derrick may mix
 
  DO NOT buy Ryan (for that price).
 
  This is just the A-side of that infamous bootleg that is very hard to
get
  hold of.
  It is a repress of side A togheter with 2 other mixes (by p*ssy 2000) on
 the
  audio deluxe label... People are buying this for $100 on ebay.. but you
 can
  get this just in any store for normal price!
 
  1999 - audio deluxe recordings
 
  check groovetech.. I bought their last copy, but it might get back in
 stock.
 
  search for first choice and label audio deluxe. you will find 2
 records,
  it is the one with on the b-side twisted black science disco mix (=ron
  hardy´s ghost). Listen to it!
 
  It is nice.. but you should get the original bootleg (for about $100
these
  days) for the B-side. wich is featured in Placid´s mix and the Mayday
mix.
 
  Cheerio,
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Re: [313] derrick may

2002-09-19 Thread Placid
I got one on pgh )original) on ebay at the moment..  There is a scan aswell
so at least you know what to look for

Seller = placidplug
 
 last message didn´t get thru because of th word p*ssy
 
 last message did not come thru
 
 i saw this on ebay.  can anyone give me some info on it?
 Kramer dashwood ron hardys ghost derrick may mix
 
 DO NOT buy Ryan (for that price).
 
 This is just the A-side of that infamous bootleg that is very hard to
 get
 hold of.
 It is a repress of side A togheter with 2 other mixes (by p*ssy 2000) on
 the
 audio deluxe label... People are buying this for $100 on ebay.. but you
 can
 get this just in any store for normal price!
 
 1999 - audio deluxe recordings
 
 check groovetech.. I bought their last copy, but it might get back in
 stock.
 
 search for first choice and label audio deluxe. you will find 2
 records,
 it is the one with on the b-side twisted black science disco mix (=ron
 hardy´s ghost). Listen to it!
 
 It is nice.. but you should get the original bootleg (for about $100
 these
 days) for the B-side. wich is featured in Placid´s mix and the Mayday
 mix.
 
 Cheerio,
 Maarten
 
 
 
 
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Re: [313] derrick may

2002-09-19 Thread Maarten Baute
 I got one on pgh )original) on ebay at the moment..  There is a scan
aswell
so at least you know what to look for

Seller = placidplug 

That´s the one to get for sure!



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[313] House and other mixes available for download

2002-09-19 Thread Jari Tolkkinen

Hello everybody.

I've collected a selection of my mixes that I've done and gathered them to 
my website. The URL is:

http://www.labra.com/~ken-guru/mixes.shtml

Enjoy.

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as we walk / hand in hand / sisters, brothers / we'll make it to the promised
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[313] RADIATION/RICHIE HAWTIN 'MELTDOWN' 12 Direct drive records

2002-09-19 Thread Wibo Lammerts
I recall listening to this one when it came out, but for some reason I
didn't buy it. 

So, how is it?

W

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[313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

I went to the Plasa light/sound show in london the other week and finally
got a chance to roadtest F/S on the uk distributor of stanton's stand :] 

I was thoroughly impressed and I would say it is very difficult to fault - I
gave it some solid scratching + crabbing and it held up fine as well as
skipping the needle about, spinbacks etc etc. The software is pretty good
too - you can see a waveform of the tune and its not too difficult to skip
to a break etc. The 'record box' functionality is quite nice - they had
house/hip-hop/breaks/etc boxes set up on F1-F9 keys. 

After I'd finished dribbling all over it I had a chat to some guys on the
stand...from what they were saying it sounds like u need a Linux partition
on your laptop/pc but they give you a distribution in the box [not sure why
they couldnt have F/S on a bootable linux CD as that would be way less
hassle].  I think UK retail is between 450-500GBP. They were running it off
a compaq presario notebook [not sure what spec] but the guy said anything
around the 500mhz mark should do the trick. Spare records are gonna be
around the 15GBP mark too.

in summary.*I WANT ONE!!*  :]


peace,
Marc



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Re: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread Tristan Watkins
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Subject: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...


 The software is pretty good
 too - you can see a waveform of the tune

This is something I'd not considered before. When Magda used it Saturday she
often seemed to be looking at it a lot more intently than I would've thought
necessary to just find a track, but if you can't see 'indicators' on the
vinyl, that waveform display would be pretty crucial. I'm sure this wouldn't
take too long to adapt to, unless you scratch a lot and have your records
marked with stickers, etc.

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Re: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread counterpoint69
had to look for myself... never saw it as a reality

http://www.finalscratch.com/


  from:Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  date:Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:49:55
  to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
  subject: Re: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...
 
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 From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:31 AM
 Subject: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...
 
 
  The software is pretty good
  too - you can see a waveform of the tune
 
 This is something I'd not considered before. When Magda used it Saturday she
 often seemed to be looking at it a lot more intently than I would've thought
 necessary to just find a track, but if you can't see 'indicators' on the
 vinyl, that waveform display would be pretty crucial. I'm sure this wouldn't
 take too long to adapt to, unless you scratch a lot and have your records
 marked with stickers, etc.
 
 Tristan
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[313] House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix

2002-09-19 Thread Toby Frith
Just seen this advertised on Groovetech - there's a remix by Morgan Geist of
a US punk group called the RaptureAnybody heard it?  Thoughts?




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RE: [313] House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix

2002-09-19 Thread Sean Creen
Yeh, its quite similar to the original, which is very much a Gang of
Four/ACR type of track. The remix takes a few of the rougher edges off it
and is a bit more measured. Overall, its quite nice, but not essential I'd
say.

Sean.

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Subject: [313] House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix


Just seen this advertised on Groovetech - there's a remix by Morgan Geist of
a US punk group called the RaptureAnybody heard it?  Thoughts?




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RE: [313] House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix

2002-09-19 Thread rob webb

Sean:


Yeh, its quite similar to the original, which is very much a Gang of
Four/ACR type of track. The remix takes a few of the rougher edges off it
and is a bit more measured. Overall, its quite nice, but not essential I'd
say.


quite nice, but not essential is a fair call imho.  i you fancy hunting 
one down i think Output licenced this for the UK, and i know a coupla stores 
have had copies back in recently so you should be able to find it at 
domestic price rather than having to pay for the US import.




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RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread ian cheshire
by this report and like all reports I am starting to really
admire the FS and its potential..cheers Marc for this :)

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I went to the Plasa light/sound show in london the other week and finally
got a chance to roadtest F/S on the uk distributor of stanton's stand :]

I was thoroughly impressed and I would say it is very difficult to fault - I
gave it some solid scratching + crabbing and it held up fine as well as
skipping the needle about, spinbacks etc etc. The software is pretty good
too - you can see a waveform of the tune and its not too difficult to skip
to a break etc. The 'record box' functionality is quite nice - they had
house/hip-hop/breaks/etc boxes set up on F1-F9 keys.

After I'd finished dribbling all over it I had a chat to some guys on the
stand...from what they were saying it sounds like u need a Linux partition
on your laptop/pc but they give you a distribution in the box [not sure why
they couldnt have F/S on a bootable linux CD as that would be way less
hassle].  I think UK retail is between 450-500GBP. They were running it off
a compaq presario notebook [not sure what spec] but the guy said anything
around the 500mhz mark should do the trick. Spare records are gonna be
around the 15GBP mark too.

in summary.*I WANT ONE!!*  :]


peace,
Marc




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[313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

I was reading somewhere that a metro area compilation of various selected
bits and bobs was coming ( / is already) out - does anyone know whats this
is called or if its available yet ?

peace,
Marc

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RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

I have to say that it was everything I was hoping for - and is now officialy
the no.1 item on my xmas shopping list!!
- looks like I'll be spending the holiday break sampling in some 2000
records tho :[ 

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by this report and like all reports I am starting to really
admire the FS and its potential..cheers Marc for this :)

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Subject: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...



I went to the Plasa light/sound show in london the other week 
and finally
got a chance to roadtest F/S on the uk distributor of 
stanton's stand :]

I was thoroughly impressed and I would say it is very 
difficult to fault - I
gave it some solid scratching + crabbing and it held up fine as well as
skipping the needle about, spinbacks etc etc. The software is 
pretty good
too - you can see a waveform of the tune and its not too 
difficult to skip
to a break etc. The 'record box' functionality is quite nice - they had
house/hip-hop/breaks/etc boxes set up on F1-F9 keys.

After I'd finished dribbling all over it I had a chat to some 
guys on the
stand...from what they were saying it sounds like u need a 
Linux partition
on your laptop/pc but they give you a distribution in the box 
[not sure why
they couldnt have F/S on a bootable linux CD as that would be way less
hassle].  I think UK retail is between 450-500GBP. They were 
running it off
a compaq presario notebook [not sure what spec] but the guy 
said anything
around the 500mhz mark should do the trick. Spare records are gonna be
around the 15GBP mark too.

in summary.*I WANT ONE!!*  :]


peace,
Marc



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RE: [313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Taylor
I saw a review of it somewhere - I think it said it is the first  3 or 4 EPs
plus four unreleased tracks. As far as I know it is eponymously titled.

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I was reading somewhere that a metro area compilation of various selected
bits and bobs was coming ( / is already) out - does anyone know whats this
is called or if its available yet ?

peace,
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Re: [313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread tom churchill
 I was reading somewhere that a metro area compilation of various selected
 bits and bobs was coming ( / is already) out - does anyone know whats this
 is called or if its available yet ?

According to http://www.environrecords.com/ it's out on October 22nd...

11 August 2002: METRO AREA ALBUM SET FOR RELEASE
The new Metro Area CD has been mastered for release on 22 October, 2002. The
CD version contains six series tracks (specially edited) alongside the four
new and unreleased songs. A super-limited 2X12 will be released as well.
The album is released via Source for EU.

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Re: [313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread Toby Frith
I believe they are also DJing @ Fabric on 19th Oct.




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  I was reading somewhere that a metro area compilation of various
selected
  bits and bobs was coming ( / is already) out - does anyone know whats
this
  is called or if its available yet ?

 According to http://www.environrecords.com/ it's out on October 22nd...

 11 August 2002: METRO AREA ALBUM SET FOR RELEASE
 The new Metro Area CD has been mastered for release on 22 October, 2002.
The
 CD version contains six series tracks (specially edited) alongside the
four
 new and unreleased songs. A super-limited 2X12 will be released as well.
 The album is released via Source for EU.

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Fw: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread logic7

 I think this app alone finally proves that Linux is good for something
other
than programming and server duties.

 Doesn't exactly say if you need your own Lnux distribution, of it it has
 it's own hand-rolled distro included (that would be ideal)

 George - Logic7
 Labwerx

 R.I.P. James Stinson


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 From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:28 AM
 Subject: RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...


  by this report and like all reports I am starting to really
  admire the FS and its potential..cheers Marc for this :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 19 September 2002 10:31
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...
 
 
 
  I went to the Plasa light/sound show in london the other week and
finally
  got a chance to roadtest F/S on the uk distributor of stanton's stand :]
 
  I was thoroughly impressed and I would say it is very difficult to
fault -
 I
  gave it some solid scratching + crabbing and it held up fine as well as
  skipping the needle about, spinbacks etc etc. The software is pretty
good
  too - you can see a waveform of the tune and its not too difficult to
skip
  to a break etc. The 'record box' functionality is quite nice - they had
  house/hip-hop/breaks/etc boxes set up on F1-F9 keys.
 
  After I'd finished dribbling all over it I had a chat to some guys on
the
  stand...from what they were saying it sounds like u need a Linux
partition
  on your laptop/pc but they give you a distribution in the box [not sure
 why
  they couldnt have F/S on a bootable linux CD as that would be way less
  hassle].  I think UK retail is between 450-500GBP. They were running it
 off
  a compaq presario notebook [not sure what spec] but the guy said
anything
  around the 500mhz mark should do the trick. Spare records are gonna be
  around the 15GBP mark too.
 
  in summary.*I WANT ONE!!*  :]
 
 
  peace,
  Marc
 
 
 

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[313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread alex . bond
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There's promo copies of the Metro Area LP floating around at the minute, so
it shouldn't be too far away I wouldn't have thought.

If I remember rightly, there wasn't that many tracks on it (around 10 I
think) so I would presume that it's a 'best of' type thing, as opposed to a
complete collection of the 4 EP's. I could be wrong though.

Also, the 3rd instalment of the TigerSushi series is out now, and that
features a new Metro Area track. I've not heard it, but, lets face it,
there's not been a bad MetroArea track yet, so it's bound to be good.

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[313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread counterpoint69

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Something that everyone needs to think about

Now instead of copying cds... we will be able to copy vinyl.  I thought that at 
least the producers of dance music who only pressed vinyl were safe.  Now all 
someone has to do is go buy a track and post it on kazaa... 

That scares me somehow Hopefully the users of final scratch will actually 
be PAYING for the music they mix and not ripping it off kazaa. 

just a thought 

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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

I'd still be more than happy to buy new vinyl, but I could sample it and
then keep the originals in minty condition stashed away somewhere. I guess
if this really takes off then eventually record pressing will become a thing
of the past and labels might start punting mp3 online.

Im just thinking of the all sh1t you just can't get hold of on vinyl but
would take you 5 mins to get hold of on mp3 ! 
hmm I might finally aquite that utopian record collection :] 

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Something that everyone needs to think about

Now instead of copying cds... we will be able to copy vinyl.  
I thought that at least the producers of dance music who only 
pressed vinyl were safe.  Now all someone has to do is go buy 
a track and post it on kazaa... 

That scares me somehow Hopefully the users of final 
scratch will actually be PAYING for the music they mix and not 
ripping it off kazaa. 

just a thought 

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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Neil Wallace

And knowing people that run small label that can only afford to press
around 500 copies of a release I'm sure they'd be more than happy that
their release could reach a much larger audience.

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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread counterpoint69
Its just a question of copyright.  You still had to pay for vinyl.  I feel bad 
(kinda) but I cant remember the last CD I actually paid for besides moby 
(bad joke) 

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 And knowing people that run small label that can only afford to press
 around 500 copies of a release I'm sure they'd be more than happy that
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 :then keep the originals in minty condition stashed away somewhere. I
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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Darren Longton (Merch)
I don't think pressing vinyl will totally become a part of the past...after all 
they still have to press the controller vinyl for FS.  It IS a more cost 
effective solution to djing...not to mention the weight factor when traveling.  
Plus you could drop your own tracks, convert them to mp3 and BAM!...play them 
10min. later!  THAT right there is worth the $500.  No more dub plates costing 
astronomical amounts too.

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I'd still be more than happy to buy new vinyl, but I could sample it and
then keep the originals in minty condition stashed away somewhere. I guess
if this really takes off then eventually record pressing will become a thing
of the past and labels might start punting mp3 online.

Im just thinking of the all sh1t you just can't get hold of on vinyl but
would take you 5 mins to get hold of on mp3 ! 
hmm I might finally aquite that utopian record collection :] 

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Something that everyone needs to think about

Now instead of copying cds... we will be able to copy vinyl.  
I thought that at least the producers of dance music who only 
pressed vinyl were safe.  Now all someone has to do is go buy 
a track and post it on kazaa... 

That scares me somehow Hopefully the users of final 
scratch will actually be PAYING for the music they mix and not 
ripping it off kazaa. 

just a thought 

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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread MikeD
There are currently trading groups on IRC that record their vinyl
to mp3.  This has been happening for years.   The majority of these groups
don't post their material to P2P apps, even though some does get out.  In
my opinion, it has been a nice way to get everything while only being
able to shell out x amount for records each month.

Maybe some of the electronic music artists will wise up and start selling
mp3s?  Or better yet, offer truncated tracks for free, and sell the full
version for a minimal, yet fair price.  

-m

 Now instead of copying cds... we will be able to copy vinyl.  I thought
 that at least the producers of dance music who only pressed vinyl were
 safe.  Now all someone has to do is go buy a track and post it on
 kazaa... 
 
 That scares me somehow Hopefully the users of final scratch will
 actually be PAYING for the music they mix and not ripping it off kazaa. 
 
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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Kent williams
Maybe.  If you can sell all 500 copies!

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Neil Wallace wrote:

 And knowing people that run small label that can only afford to press
 around 500 copies of a release I'm sure they'd be more than happy that
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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

I probably wouldnt bother buying any more scratch/breaks records either -
making your own by knocking together samples and encoding them would be
quality. You could even batch simialr sounds on the same mp3 and categorize
them [crazy vocal, orchestral hits, wooshing type sounds etc]. It would be
great for taking samples of films/tv etc too and be able to scratch them
10mins later :] 

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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:20 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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I don't think pressing vinyl will totally become a part of the 
past...after all they still have to press the controller vinyl 
for FS.  It IS a more cost effective solution to djing...not 
to mention the weight factor when traveling.  Plus you could 
drop your own tracks, convert them to mp3 and BAM!...play them 
10min. later!  THAT right there is worth the $500.  No more 
dub plates costing astronomical amounts too.

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I'd still be more than happy to buy new vinyl, but I could 
sample it and
then keep the originals in minty condition stashed away 
somewhere. I guess
if this really takes off then eventually record pressing will 
become a thing
of the past and labels might start punting mp3 online.

Im just thinking of the all sh1t you just can't get hold of on 
vinyl but
would take you 5 mins to get hold of on mp3 ! 
hmm I might finally aquite that utopian record collection :] 

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Something that everyone needs to think about

Now instead of copying cds... we will be able to copy vinyl.  
I thought that at least the producers of dance music who only 
pressed vinyl were safe.  Now all someone has to do is go buy 
a track and post it on kazaa... 

That scares me somehow Hopefully the users of final 
scratch will actually be PAYING for the music they mix and not 
ripping it off kazaa. 

just a thought 

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[313] RE: House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix

2002-09-19 Thread Andy Kellman
Geist wiped off the vocals and added horns from James Duncan and keys. It's
HOT -- somewhere between Go Bang and Death Disco. I'm reaching a bit,
but it's in that territory.

DFA (the label that originally put it out) is releasing a comp on CD later
this year. Maybe someone in the know out there knows if it will be included.

If you attempt to get it through Soulseek, watch out -- it has been
mis-labelled and spread around.


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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Darren Longton (Merch)
Excellent point/idea.  Not only can you have a complete studio without buying 
all the hardware now, but also a production facility.  With that, all you'll 
need is a mini dat for sampling while out of the house.  I think we all should 
buy some stock in Stanton! ;)

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I probably wouldnt bother buying any more scratch/breaks records either -
making your own by knocking together samples and encoding them would be
quality. You could even batch simialr sounds on the same mp3 and categorize
them [crazy vocal, orchestral hits, wooshing type sounds etc]. It would be
great for taking samples of films/tv etc too and be able to scratch them
10mins later :] 

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...


I don't think pressing vinyl will totally become a part of the 
past...after all they still have to press the controller vinyl 
for FS.  It IS a more cost effective solution to djing...not 
to mention the weight factor when traveling.  Plus you could 
drop your own tracks, convert them to mp3 and BAM!...play them 
10min. later!  THAT right there is worth the $500.  No more 
dub plates costing astronomical amounts too.

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I'd still be more than happy to buy new vinyl, but I could 
sample it and
then keep the originals in minty condition stashed away 
somewhere. I guess
if this really takes off then eventually record pressing will 
become a thing
of the past and labels might start punting mp3 online.

Im just thinking of the all sh1t you just can't get hold of on 
vinyl but
would take you 5 mins to get hold of on mp3 ! 
hmm I might finally aquite that utopian record collection :] 

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Something that everyone needs to think about

Now instead of copying cds... we will be able to copy vinyl.  
I thought that at least the producers of dance music who only 
pressed vinyl were safe.  Now all someone has to do is go buy 
a track and post it on kazaa... 

That scares me somehow Hopefully the users of final 
scratch will actually be PAYING for the music they mix and not 
ripping it off kazaa. 

just a thought 

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[313] Special Cornwarning Records Meltdown Sale

2002-09-19 Thread Kent williams
I have a box each of Cornwarning 1 (Future Farmers EP) and Cornwarning 2
(Stone City EP).   I'd like to stop tripping over them every time I try to
get to my studio, so anyone who is interested in buying copies drop me a
line.

Record stores who order more than one get them for $3.

DJs you may have heard of who have played Cornwarning records out:
Ben Sims, T Linder, Terrence Parker, Ryan Brogan, and some guy whose
name is unpronouncable from Slovenia.

Some details on these releases at http://www.cornwarning.com

Each is $5 + shipping

Package deal: Cornwarning1+Cornwarning2+CDR of the Cornwarning Megamix
Tracks Out Of Nowhere $12 + shipping.

Tracks Out of Nowhere features tracks from the first 2 EPs plus unreleased
tracks from Chaircrusher and Chris O, digitally mashed into a continuous mix.

I will ship overseas, but I'm not sure on shipping costs yet. Within the US,
I think US Mail is about $3.



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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Neil Wallace

Well its also a case of the fact that they generally have much more
material than they can afford to release and so these tracks could be
given an mp3 only release (whether for a nominal fee or for free) I
think using this technology as a positive promotional tool for small
labels will be cool - they get to release as much stuff as they want and
can make a name for themselves based on the strength of their material
rather than the quality of their distribution or how well they manage to
get their releases promoted.

 lots of people who think of themselves as underground music anarchists
try and justify the whole thing to themselves by saying its only britney
spears and the five majors that suffer. that's bulls***t.

well ive certainly seen a number of small labels who either:
a) encourage people to download their stuff as a 'try before you buy'
thing.
b) do not mind that there are people who download and then don't buy. I
guess the reason behind this is these people are music fans rather than
business people and they realise most of the people who listen to their
stuff are music fans too - they buy as much as they can afford but they
cant afford everything.

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:Maybe.  If you can sell all 500 copies!
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:
: And knowing people that run small label that can only afford to press
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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Rc

 
 well ive certainly seen a number of small labels who either:
 a) encourage people to download their stuff as a 'try before you buy'
 thing.
 b) do not mind that there are people who download and then don't buy. I
 guess the reason behind this is these people are music fans rather than
 business people and they realise most of the people who listen to their
 stuff are music fans too - they buy as much as they can afford but they
 cant afford everything.
 
there's no doubt that's true. i'd suggest they are a small minority - this
kind of altruistic behaviour is great - unfortunately not that pervasive ...

a small number of labels have made this choice. perhaps one should think
about the number of labels/composers/producers that have had this choice
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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
MikeD wrote on Thu, 19 Sep 2002 about following:

 There are currently trading groups on IRC that record their vinyl
 to mp3.  This has been happening for years.   The majority of these groups

i've heard some of these releases, many of them skip, have bad 
scratches, sound quiet..  

but i do record vinyl to digital format for my own listening pleasure. 
i tend to remove noise  rumble, scratches and stuff and remaster the 
tracks for louder volume, as well as EQ them a bit. 

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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Michael Lees



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

for example, Delsin's new
compilation, or one of the new submerge CD's from a napster type site is
very very wrong, it's like stealing in my opinion. 


That is stealing. I don't think Neil was advocating this, his point 
remains that if a small label wants people to take their music and play 
it out then final scratch offers great benefits. As it stands if you 
want to get your record played by a DJ, you have to spend money 
producing the record then send it out to them in the hope they'll play 
it. With final scratch it lets you do it the other way round, it 
basically replaces the dub plate. If DJ's like the track and everyone 
wants to play it you can release your next track on vinyl - not on mp3.


I do agree though,  I don't think many people will be willing to buy the 
vinyl if they already have the mp3 and final scratch.


double edged sword really

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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Odeluga, Ken

i tend to remove noise  rumble, scratches and stuff and remaster the
tracks for louder volume, as well as EQ them a bit.

sakke

I already knew I was off the scale on my lack of knowledge of audio
technology but that just rams it home. Just out of curiousity can I ask how
you do that? (Pls keep it simple for a tech-dumbo). Thx.

k

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[313] Is soul overrated?

2002-09-19 Thread DJ HEAT
According to some people they say soul is overrated?
Trance is Overated what do you think?

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RE: [313] Is soul overrated?

2002-09-19 Thread Neil Wallace

Yes trance is overated - are you happy now? Can we move on?

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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread stewart
I can see some benefits for small labels to Final Scratch amongst the many 
questions it raises.
One thing that any small independent label wants is as many DJs spinning thier 
releases as possible. The costs involved of mailing out x number of promo 
copies to DJs who you will more than likley never know if they recieved it and 
listened to it, let alone played it are usually an expense that small labels 
can only afford on a small scale. If Final Scratch took off in the clubs you 
could get out your new release to as many DJs as you wanted. In fact you could 
make it downloadable for DJs and even monitor how many and possbly who has 
taken the tracks.

I think it will be a while before Final Scratch or anything like it becomes the 
standard home mixing kit. I think it'll have to really take off in the clubs 
first, which means the majority of people are still gonna be wanting to buy 
vinyl. If Final Scratch technology does eventually start to oversee the death 
of vinyl however then I think there could be problems. Even if record labels 
start getting savvy to marketing MP3s, I just cant see enough honest people out 
there who would pay for something they could take for free. I personally don't 
download music. Its a collectors thing, I'd rather have the vinyl in my hands. 
However I dont feel half as strongly about CDs and would feel even less 
strongly if the collectable product was just a file on your PC. Given the 
choice between paying hard earned cash for a file on your PC or getting exactly 
the same file for free, well I cant see many people reaching for thier credit 
cards.

Maybe I'm looking far too ahead too early, but I definatly think things will 
change in the future and people need to be prepared. Inceidently it would be 
interesting to know where Richie Hawtin gets the MP3s he's used in his sets. 
Has he actually sat down and taken the time to encode his whole record 
collection?


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Fw: [313] pump up the volume part 3

2002-09-19 Thread Mislav Bobic
anyone please  ?

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 ey everyone
 
 remember people mostly agreed that 3rd part wasn't that good
 but anyway,  from where it's possible to download this final part ?
 
 laters,
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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Rc
 Inceidently it would be
 interesting to know where Richie Hawtin gets the MP3s he's used in his sets.
 Has he actually sat down and taken the time to encode his whole record
 collection?


yeah - he's playing out here next week and i thought about the same
questionI kinda came to the resolution that's he's got enough $ to have
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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread ::P
I've sent him a few tracks, I dunno if he's used them.


to me, thats the best part of final scratch.  DJs can spin my tracks without
me having to go through the bother of having it put out on vinyl


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  Inceidently it would be
  interesting to know where Richie Hawtin gets the MP3s he's used in his
sets.
  Has he actually sat down and taken the time to encode his whole record
  collection?


 yeah - he's playing out here next week and i thought about the same
 questionI kinda came to the resolution that's he's got enough $ to
have
 'people' do that for him?



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RE: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Odeluga, Ken wrote on Thu, 19 Sep 2002 about following:

 i tend to remove noise  rumble, scratches and stuff and remaster the
 tracks for louder volume, as well as EQ them a bit.
 
 technology but that just rams it home. Just out of curiousity can I ask how
 you do that? (Pls keep it simple for a tech-dumbo). Thx.

Using digital audio editing tools. Sound Forge with Noise Reduction to 
remove noise* (does amazing job), then use audio plugin chainer (plugin 
tool inside sound forge that allows chaining different plugins into one 
chain) with Waves EQ10 to do equalization, Waves C-4 multiband for 
multiband compression and finally Waves RCL for limiting and 
compressing. those are all plugins for Sound Forge and other DirectX 
plugin capable software. 
 
*) you sample ~1 second of noise and then the plugin filters that off 
from the wave. i cannot explain how it actually works since i know 
pretty much nothing about DSP (digital signal processing).

sakke
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Re: [313] pump up the volume part 3

2002-09-19 Thread Tristan Watkins
http://www.bringtheheat.com/Videos/Pump_Up_The_Volume/pumpupthevolume3.rm

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 anyone please  ?
 
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  ey everyone
  
  remember people mostly agreed that 3rd part wasn't that good
  but anyway,  from where it's possible to download this final part ?
  
  laters,
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RE: [313] Re: rob hood

2002-09-19 Thread Grammenos, Peter

i'd say the best unexpected hip-hop set from a techno dj i've 
ever heard was from frankie bones, he played about 1/2 hours worth,
dropping old school goodies from the likes of epmd, tribe, krs-1, 
wu-tang...

-pete

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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:50 PM
To: 313
Subject: [313] Re: rob hood


He's certainly played at least one hip hop record in every set I've heard
him play - usually the first track.


Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:30:19 +1000 (EST)
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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but rob hood
always
tries to play hip hop sets in new york (or is that
how he starts his
sets
everywhere?)




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[313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?

2002-09-19 Thread Placid
Test press of Retroactive  dang 1 ep...


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Re: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?

2002-09-19 Thread Tristan Watkins
Silly thread. :) 

Autographed copy of 'Strings' unopened. Gold ink no less! ;) 

How do you autograph an unopened record you ask? Good question, I say. 

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Re: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?

2002-09-19 Thread Ian

KDJ 001 - Moodytraxx EP - Signed by Mr. Kenny Dixon, Jr.


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Test press of Retroactive  dang 1 ep...


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RE: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Taylor
What's the point of owning an unopened record?
Records are meant to be played, not treated as artifacts.
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Silly thread. :) 

Autographed copy of 'Strings' unopened. Gold ink no less! ;) 

How do you autograph an unopened record you ask? Good question, I say. 

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RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

 remark in this whole discussion however. 
One great
aspect about playing music from vinyl is feedback; the amplified music,
specifically bass, reflects back on the record and gets picked 
up by the
needle again and amplified again. Too much feedback leads to 
rumble, but
just enough creates this fat deep bass sound we're all so 
addicted on. Final
scatch can never recreate this, since the records don't 
contain the actual
music. 

realistically do you actually configure your decks so you get bass feedback
? Most places Ive played try and isolate the decks to avoid this. In fact I
dont think Ive ever seen anyone with a set up designed to leverage any bass
feedback - how could you ever ensure the feedback was stable ??

If you were that bothered you could always pre-process your mp3's with some
feedback I guess ? 


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RE: [313] Final Scratch - remastering records...

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

download a copy of cooledit - very easy to use 
you can remove noise at practically the touch of a button and most basic
processing is really straightforward.
It is made by a company called syntrillium I think - a quick search in
google should do the trick :] 

Marc

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i tend to remove noise  rumble, scratches and stuff and remaster the
tracks for louder volume, as well as EQ them a bit.

sakke

I already knew I was off the scale on my lack of knowledge of audio
technology but that just rams it home. Just out of curiousity 
can I ask how
you do that? (Pls keep it simple for a tech-dumbo). Thx.

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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread ollie barkovic
Wow that¹s some serious processing, lets see...

Sound Forge - $349.99 + NR $279.97
Waves - the plugs you mention are available in the Platinum bundle $2100.00

That¹s, hmmm $2729.98 USD or $4400 cdn

More that my car!

o



On 9/19/02 10:06 AM, Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Odeluga, Ken wrote on Thu, 19 Sep 2002 about following:
 
 i tend to remove noise  rumble, scratches and stuff and remaster the
 tracks for louder volume, as well as EQ them a bit.
 
 technology but that just rams it home. Just out of curiousity can I ask how
 you do that? (Pls keep it simple for a tech-dumbo). Thx.
 
 Using digital audio editing tools. Sound Forge with Noise Reduction to
 remove noise* (does amazing job), then use audio plugin chainer (plugin
 tool inside sound forge that allows chaining different plugins into one
 chain) with Waves EQ10 to do equalization, Waves C-4 multiband for
 multiband compression and finally Waves RCL for limiting and
 compressing. those are all plugins for Sound Forge and other DirectX
 plugin capable software.
 
 *) you sample ~1 second of noise and then the plugin filters that off
 from the wave. i cannot explain how it actually works since i know
 pretty much nothing about DSP (digital signal processing).
 
 sakke



Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Dina Slavensky
wow and I'm still saving up for the other needle for my belt driven
turntables...

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From: ollie barkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...


Wow that¹s some serious processing, lets see...

Sound Forge - $349.99 + NR $279.97
Waves - the plugs you mention are available in the Platinum bundle $2100.00

That¹s, hmmm $2729.98 USD or $4400 cdn

More that my car!

o



On 9/19/02 10:06 AM, Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Odeluga, Ken wrote on Thu, 19 Sep 2002 about following:

 i tend to remove noise  rumble, scratches and stuff and remaster the
 tracks for louder volume, as well as EQ them a bit.

 technology but that just rams it home. Just out of curiousity can I ask
how
 you do that? (Pls keep it simple for a tech-dumbo). Thx.

 Using digital audio editing tools. Sound Forge with Noise Reduction to
 remove noise* (does amazing job), then use audio plugin chainer (plugin
 tool inside sound forge that allows chaining different plugins into one
 chain) with Waves EQ10 to do equalization, Waves C-4 multiband for
 multiband compression and finally Waves RCL for limiting and
 compressing. those are all plugins for Sound Forge and other DirectX
 plugin capable software.

 *) you sample ~1 second of noise and then the plugin filters that off
 from the wave. i cannot explain how it actually works since i know
 pretty much nothing about DSP (digital signal processing).

 sakke





RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and such like. A lot
of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and valid.

Flame flame, cc cc ;o)

k


RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
Wether you want it or not, when you are playing somewhere where the music is
loud, you will always have feedback. No matter how well you isolate your
turntable. In fact, isolating the decks is to prevent rumble not feedback.

The needle will pick up all kinds of vibration. Just put a record on, don't
let it spin, and tap with your finger somewhere on the turntable. You will
definately hear this amplified. So when the needle picks up the bass
vibrations from the speakers, this is feedback. You can even shout to the
needle when it's on a (stopped) record and if you record that you will hear
it. 
You can already hear the difference when playing vinyl and CDs. CDs sound
less deep on the dancefloor. 

Joost

-Original Message-
From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 19 september 2002 16:32
To: 'Ploegmakers, Joost'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...



 remark in this whole discussion however. 
One great
aspect about playing music from vinyl is feedback; the amplified music, 
specifically bass, reflects back on the record and gets picked up by 
the needle again and amplified again. Too much feedback leads to
rumble, but
just enough creates this fat deep bass sound we're all so 
addicted on. Final
scatch can never recreate this, since the records don't 
contain the actual
music. 

realistically do you actually configure your decks so you get bass feedback
? Most places Ive played try and isolate the decks to avoid this. In fact I
dont think Ive ever seen anyone with a set up designed to leverage any bass
feedback - how could you ever ensure the feedback was stable ??

If you were that bothered you could always pre-process your mp3's with some
feedback I guess ? 



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RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Ian
amen.

Back on Topic. 

Richie Hawtin Vs. Jeff Mills in the Final Scratch Battle from 
hell. 

Find that on the net.

In my opinion, I think this list has gotten *too* on topic 
lately. That is if you are interested in discussing the every 
habit of Mills  Hawtin. 

Plus, If I remember correctly a certain someone filled all of 
our inboxes with a banter about proper english.

Burn it to the ground!


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:02:15 +0100
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: can we get back on topic  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org

Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and 
such like. A lot
of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and 
valid.

Flame flame, cc cc ;o)

k


RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Neil Wallace

Obviously you can get info the final scratch from the net but I would
much rather hear what someones opinion I trust more than some random
punters. For instance im sure you can find any number of reviews of CDJ
machines on the internet saying how fantastic they are, how they are
better than turntables because they have an auto BPM match function etc.

I agree that OT conversation can be frustrating, especially if there is
a lot of on topic conversation going on as well and you have to try and
split apart the threads (especially if an on topic conversation veers of
topic and so you don't even have the message titles to help). But there
simply hasn't been much on topic conversation so this is a bit of a moot
point I feel.

The finalscratch topic was clearly labelled and so easy to delete.

:-Original Message-
:From: ::P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:54 PM
:To: 313@hyperreal.org
:Subject: can we get back on topic
:
:how about talking about 313 music instead of final scratch and rare
:records?
:
:I dont mean to be a prick, but this list is filling my inbox with shit.
:
:I can get info on final scratch from finalscratch or the net, and I
dont
:care about rare records.  this is a 313 techno list guys, lets not
forget
:that.
:
:and please dont further perpetuate this by flaming my and CCing the
list.
:
:flame me in private if you must.
:
:[k]d




RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

Yeah Im guessing that a veritable breakthrough in dj/music technology which
has sufficient repercussions on copyright, independent labels and playout
exposure of ultra-rare records *might* be relevant to the 313 which has
always remained independet and also consistenyl pioneers the fusion of music
and technology... 

don't hold me to that though its possible Im very wrong

-Original Message-
From: ::P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:54 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: can we get back on topic


how about talking about 313 music instead of final scratch and 
rare records?

I dont mean to be a prick, but this list is filling my inbox with shit.

I can get info on final scratch from finalscratch or the net, 
and I dont
care about rare records.  this is a 313 techno list guys, lets 
not forget
that.

and please dont further perpetuate this by flaming my and 
CCing the list.

flame me in private if you must.

[k]d



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Re: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
Why is this mail coming through without 313 in the subject line and clogging
up my main inbox?

 Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and such like. A
lot
 of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and valid.

 Flame flame, cc cc ;o)

 k




RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Taylor
This topic does seem awfully narrow sometimes - why not stray off the point
occasionally? That's how conversations evolve naturally in the real world -
it gets a little boring sometimes if you stick to the same topic always. If
an e-mail doesn't interest you it's not a terrible inconvenience - just hit
delete.

-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: can we get back on topic


Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and such like. A lot
of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and valid.

Flame flame, cc cc ;o)

k


RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Ian
I think its time for a 313 topic coup.

Lurkers of the world unite to overthrow on topic conversation.

Its just an email list. Damn.

ID


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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:11:31 -
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: can we get back on topic  
To: 'Odeluga, Ken' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 
313@hyperreal.org

This topic does seem awfully narrow sometimes - why not 
stray off the point
occasionally? That's how conversations evolve naturally in 
the real world -
it gets a little boring sometimes if you stick to the same 
topic always. If
an e-mail doesn't interest you it's not a terrible 
inconvenience - just hit
delete.

-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: can we get back on topic


Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and 
such like. A lot
of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and 
valid.

Flame flame, cc cc ;o)

k


Re: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread ::P
I dont know whats up with that.

I just got 15 emails to my main inbox also and half of them are to 313

this is more aggrivating than the OT threads

:)


- Original Message -
From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: can we get back on topic


 Why is this mail coming through without 313 in the subject line and
clogging
 up my main inbox?

  Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and such like. A
 lot
  of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and valid.
 
  Flame flame, cc cc ;o)
 
  k
 




[313] RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
stop this thread, it doesnt have [313] in the header, which must of use to 
filter..

thanks
 -Original Message-
 From: ::P [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:16 PM
 To:   Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
 Subject:  Re: can we get back on topic
 
 I dont know whats up with that.
 
 I just got 15 emails to my main inbox also and half of them are to 313
 
 this is more aggrivating than the OT threads
 
 :)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:08 AM
 Subject: Re: can we get back on topic
 
 
  Why is this mail coming through without 313 in the subject line and
 clogging
  up my main inbox?
 
   Come on! A little light relief from 'Control ' and such like. A
  lot
   of people obviously think this stuff is interesting and valid.
  
   Flame flame, cc cc ;o)
  
   k
  
 


RE: [313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread Matthew MacQueen
 if i'm correct, it samples the clap of shari vari (somewhat to obvious)

huh?  Yeah it's recognizable to the tiny fraction of the population who know 
Shari Vari well enough to know the clap, ha ha.  That's a pretty small # of 
people.  :)  And if you're going to sample a clap, that's got to be one of the 
best ones out there!!  Coolest clap runner up award: the hollow (Linn?) clap 
used by prince in the purple rain era.

I'd like them to release a 'clappapella' , personally.

cheers,
Matt MacQueen


Re: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...

2002-09-19 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message -
From: Ploegmakers, Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...


 Wether you want it or not, when you are playing somewhere where the music
is
 loud, you will always have feedback. No matter how well you isolate your
 turntable. In fact, isolating the decks is to prevent rumble not feedback.

 The needle will pick up all kinds of vibration. Just put a record on,
don't
 let it spin, and tap with your finger somewhere on the turntable. You will
 definately hear this amplified. So when the needle picks up the bass
 vibrations from the speakers, this is feedback. You can even shout to the
 needle when it's on a (stopped) record and if you record that you will
hear
 it.

This is normally just a factor how close the monitors are to the tables, no?

 You can already hear the difference when playing vinyl and CDs. CDs sound
 less deep on the dancefloor.

I see your point. I wonder if there's a specific frequency it picks up and
if you could run a sine wave at that frequency to pot up on another channel
whenever you play something digital? That's a bit convoluted though I
guess... Probably not the most elegant solution.

Then again, when I heard the Final Scratch workout last weekend, I didn't
notice a difference between vinyl and finyl.

Tristan
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RE: can we get back on topic

2002-09-19 Thread Jayson B.



I think its time for a 313 topic coup.

Lurkers of the world unite to overthrow on topic conversation.

Its just an email list. Damn.



this topic of being off topic is quite off topic people.  can we get back to 
tone shifting now?


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topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Neontsetse
anyone also got this one here :):

Hallo,

Ik ben met verlof tot vrijdag 20 september. Ik zal uw mailtje dus pas op
maandag 23 september kunnen lezen. Voor dringende zaken kan je wel terecht
op de jeugddienst: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 09/381.95.20.

Groetjes,

Bart

seems like an automatic reply thing

technology-gaps in the 313-system ?

shoutz Bart - have a nice holiday ? :D





[313] On topic: How does Mike Banks have his eggs for breakfast?

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Taylor
I reckon he likes runny yolks so he can dip (or submerge) his toast in.
 


RE: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

Yeah Ive nee getting crazy dutch/flemmish emails from this guy all week -
Ive tried mailing him back in a similar language but it doesnt seem to have
helped ! :[

-Original Message-
From: Neontsetse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:30 PM
To: 313s
Subject: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet


anyone also got this one here :):

Hallo,

Ik ben met verlof tot vrijdag 20 september. Ik zal uw mailtje 
dus pas op
maandag 23 september kunnen lezen. Voor dringende zaken kan 
je wel terecht
op de jeugddienst: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 09/381.95.20.

Groetjes,

Bart

seems like an automatic reply thing

technology-gaps in the 313-system ?

shoutz Bart - have a nice holiday ? :D





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RE: [313] Clap

2002-09-19 Thread Otto

At 10:24 19-9-02 -0500, you wrote:
 if i'm correct, it samples the clap of shari vari (somewhat to obvious)

huh?  Yeah it's recognizable to the tiny fraction of the population who know
Shari Vari well enough to know the clap, ha ha.  That's a pretty small # of
people.  :)  And if you're going to sample a clap, that's got to be one of
the best ones out there!!  Coolest clap runner up award: the hollow (Linn?)
clap used by prince in the purple rain era.

Bill VanLoo - 'Opposite Angle'

Dunno what he did with it, but it's magic.

Otto



RE: [313] On topic: How does Mike Banks have his eggs for breakfa st?

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc
Obviously they'd be scrambled so as not to be intercepted by the mainstream
snoopers !! :]
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] On topic: How does Mike Banks have his eggs for breakfast?



I reckon he likes runny yolks so he can dip (or submerge) his toast in.
 


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RE: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Taylor
have you tried calling him a klootzak or a meuderneuker? That should get rid
of him

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Subject: RE: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet



Yeah Ive nee getting crazy dutch/flemmish emails from this guy all week -
Ive tried mailing him back in a similar language but it doesnt seem to have
helped ! :[

-Original Message-
From: Neontsetse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:30 PM
To: 313s
Subject: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet


anyone also got this one here :):

Hallo,

Ik ben met verlof tot vrijdag 20 september. Ik zal uw mailtje 
dus pas op
maandag 23 september kunnen lezen. Voor dringende zaken kan 
je wel terecht
op de jeugddienst: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 09/381.95.20.

Groetjes,

Bart

seems like an automatic reply thing

technology-gaps in the 313-system ?

shoutz Bart - have a nice holiday ? :D






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Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Neontsetse
I think he´s on holidays or something ...

(can´t understand belgian)

and it´s going on list as an automatic reply -

also interesting: some mails just came as html-letters

... techno techno techno






 
 Yeah Ive nee getting crazy dutch/flemmish emails from this guy all week -
 Ive tried mailing him back in a similar language but it doesnt seem to have
 helped ! :[
 



[313] Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Jonny McIntosh
It's Red D, I'll get in touch and let him know. And stop bypassing my mail
filters, please! My inbox cannae cope.

J

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From: Neontsetse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313s 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet


 anyone also got this one here :):

 Hallo,

 Ik ben met verlof tot vrijdag 20 september. Ik zal uw mailtje dus pas op
 maandag 23 september kunnen lezen. Voor dringende zaken kan je wel
terecht
 op de jeugddienst: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 09/381.95.20.

 Groetjes,

 Bart

 seems like an automatic reply thing

 technology-gaps in the 313-system ?

 shoutz Bart - have a nice holiday ? :D






Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread jurren baars


1. i think the reason why big corporstion don't take risks with new artists 
anymore, also has a lot to do with the fact that it'll put them in a worse 
compitition position. investing in something that probably won't be a big 
commercial success, but has artistic value will therefore make your 
competitors stronger. and you don't want that! universal will never take a 
risk if it could mean that virgin or sony would benefit from their 
'mistake', to not just go for a percentage of the market. these companies 
don't care about music, it's just business.


2. there are labels/artists that put their music online for download, what i 
assume, is that they assume, that it will create a need for people [after 
hearing the songs] to buy the cd/vinyl. by putting the music on the website 
as real audio, or low quality mp3. the fact remains, that if you like the 
song, you'll want it in good sound quality, so the real audio/mp3 format is 
not satisfactory, so you'll end up buying it.
i think this works. if you really want the real deal, you will pay for it. 
as long as the downloadable material remains a lower quality then the actual 
product. and by giving people the oportunity to listen in advance, you can 
reach out a bigger audience.


jurren

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Re: [313] Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Neontsetse


 nd stop bypassing my mail filters, please! My inbox cannae cope.

also must be an error in the 313-letter-system

maybe some kind of independence day is near ?

... it all started in my inbox ... one day I was watching telly

and suddenly I hear this strange noise coming from my computer ... 



RE: [313] Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Brendan Nelson
First 313 mails started arriving in my normal inbox, and then in my spam
folder, and before too long they were everywhere! The next thing I knew, MTV
was playing Minimal Nation and the old lady next door was chased into her
garden by a holographic Blake Baxter! That was the day I knew it had all
gone wrong...

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| Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:02 PM
| To: Jonny McIntosh; 313s
| Subject: Re: [313] Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet
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|  nd stop bypassing my mail filters, please! My inbox cannae cope.
|
| also must be an error in the 313-letter-system
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| maybe some kind of independence day is near ?
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| ... it all started in my inbox ... one day I was watching telly
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| and suddenly I hear this strange noise coming from my computer ... 
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Re: [313] House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix

2002-09-19 Thread Elliot Taub
I couldn't disagree more! This record rocks big time. It hasn't left my
crate in months. The Morgan Geist mix tidies up the original, and adds a
wicked horn solo by James Duncan.

e


Scatalogics
3240 46th ST #2B
Astoria, NY 11103

www.scatalogics.com

 From: rob webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:10:08 +
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] House of Jealous Lovers - Morgan Geist remix
 
 Sean:
 
 Yeh, its quite similar to the original, which is very much a Gang of
 Four/ACR type of track. The remix takes a few of the rougher edges off it
 and is a bit more measured. Overall, its quite nice, but not essential I'd
 say.
 
 quite nice, but not essential is a fair call imho.  i you fancy hunting
 one down i think Output licenced this for the UK, and i know a coupla stores
 have had copies back in recently so you should be able to find it at
 domestic price rather than having to pay for the US import.
 
 
 
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Re: [313] Metro Area

2002-09-19 Thread Elliot Taub
It doesn't sample Shari Vari. You can make a sound like that, too, by
clapping into a microphone.

e


Scatalogics
3240 46th ST #2B
Astoria, NY 11103

www.scatalogics.com

 From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:54:19 +0200
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: [313] Metro Area
 
 At 19-9-2002 +0100 11:52, you wrote:
 Also, the 3rd instalment of the TigerSushi series is out now, and that
 features a new Metro Area track. I've not heard it, but, lets face it,
 there's not been a bad MetroArea track yet, so it's bound to be good.
 
 it's quite nice, but not their best
 if i'm correct, it samples the clap of shari vari (somewhat to obvious)
 
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Re: [313] Re: topic: MTV mystery: OCTAVE ONE

2002-09-19 Thread Neontsetse
:D :D

but serious - Octave One are still in germs MTV-dancefloor charts -

it went up to NUMBER 2 !!!

and the video keeps getting played -

ps - this track is one of those which could ! make me cry



 First 313 mails started arriving in my normal inbox, and then in my spam
 folder, and before too long they were everywhere! The next thing I knew, MTV
 was playing Minimal Nation and the old lady next door was chased into her
 garden by a holographic Blake Baxter! That was the day I knew it had all
 gone wrong...
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: Neontsetse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:02 PM
 | To: Jonny McIntosh; 313s
 | Subject: Re: [313] Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |  nd stop bypassing my mail filters, please! My inbox cannae cope.
 |
 | also must be an error in the 313-letter-system
 |
 | maybe some kind of independence day is near ?
 |
 | ... it all started in my inbox ... one day I was watching telly
 |
 | and suddenly I hear this strange noise coming from my computer ... 
 |
 



OPEN CIRCUIT @ XHEDOS CAFE

2002-09-19 Thread Jason Hogans
Hungry for after hours music  tofu sesame soup?

Open Circuit is a weekly Friday night occurrence (11-4am) where people are
welcome to bring their hardware, software, vinyl, voice and adventurous
spirit to the forefront.

Open Circuit is free of charge.

Open Circuit is free of redundancy.

Open Circuit is hosted by yours truly, :brownstudy  default selector,
greenSKY.

Open Circuit does not taste like chicken.

Open Circuit is held @ Xhedos Cafe. 240 W. 9 Mile Rd. Ferndale, Michigan.

See you there.

http://www.xhedos.com

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Re: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?

2002-09-19 Thread henrique casanova
claude young - brother from another planet - 7th city
rob hood - minimal nation - m plant (promo copy. a present from mr hood him
self. the same peaces of vinyl we can hear on his old mixes i beliave)


de que vale tanta ciência para quem já não tem nada?

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From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tristan Watkins' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Placid
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?


 What's the point of owning an unopened record?
 Records are meant to be played, not treated as artifacts.
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 From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:26 PM
 To: Placid; 313 mailing list
 Subject: Re: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?


 Silly thread. :)

 Autographed copy of 'Strings' unopened. Gold ink no less! ;)

 How do you autograph an unopened record you ask? Good question, I say.

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Re: [313] What would you consider to be your rarest 313 record?

2002-09-19 Thread Oscillate
First pressing white label of Designer Music
Autographed vinyl copy of Detroit: Beyond The Third Wave compilation
Project X bootleg of Blake's Sexuality on Matrix
Techno: The New Dance Sound Of Detroit on Ten
to name a few...

pw


RE: [313] Clap

2002-09-19 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
its not sampleable, but the off rythym claps in bill withers' use 
me are some of the best sounding that ive ever heard. 

tom


-- Original Message --
From: Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:36:35 +0200

At 10:24 19-9-02 -0500, you wrote:
  if i'm correct, it samples the clap of shari vari (somewhat 
to obvious)
 
 huh?  Yeah it's recognizable to the tiny fraction of the 
population who know
 Shari Vari well enough to know the clap, ha ha.  That's a 
pretty small # of
 people.  :)  And if you're going to sample a clap, that's got 
to be one of
 the best ones out there!!  Coolest clap runner up award: the 
hollow (Linn?)
 clap used by prince in the purple rain era.

Bill VanLoo - 'Opposite Angle'

Dunno what he did with it, but it's magic.

Otto


 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: OPEN CIRCUIT @ XHEDOS CAFE

2002-09-19 Thread Jeffrey Paul
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Jason Hogans wrote:

 Open Circuit is held @ Xhedos Cafe. 240 W. 9 Mile Rd. Ferndale, Michigan.

 See you there.

 http://www.xhedos.com

xhedos has wifi as well.  free techno and wireless internet access: i'm
there.

-j


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The Ultimate Final Scratch Question

2002-09-19 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
How much would you pay for (insert prominent DJ's name here)'s collection
on MP3 discs?



RE: The Ultimate Final Scratch Question

2002-09-19 Thread Langsman, Marc

Depends how much of it I was unable to purchase myself - It it was all
unobtainable then Id have no quarms about downloading it myself for zip :] 

I reckon most 'prominent DJ' collections are desired as they contain large
amounts of promo etc material which is a bugger to lay your hands on

-Original Message-
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:48 PM
To: MikeD
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: The Ultimate Final Scratch Question


How much would you pay for (insert prominent DJ's name here)'s 
collection
on MP3 discs?



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Re: OPEN CIRCUIT @ XHEDOS CAFE

2002-09-19 Thread ::P
is this kinda open mic so to speak?

I'd wander down with a laptop and a controller.

you bring the mic, they supply the mixer (I hope) and I will improv a set
from live crowd samples


- Original Message -
From: Jason Hogans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:15 PM
Subject: OPEN CIRCUIT @ XHEDOS CAFE


 Hungry for after hours music  tofu sesame soup?

 Open Circuit is a weekly Friday night occurrence (11-4am) where people are
 welcome to bring their hardware, software, vinyl, voice and adventurous
 spirit to the forefront.

 Open Circuit is free of charge.

 Open Circuit is free of redundancy.

 Open Circuit is hosted by yours truly, :brownstudy  default selector,
 greenSKY.

 Open Circuit does not taste like chicken.

 Open Circuit is held @ Xhedos Cafe. 240 W. 9 Mile Rd. Ferndale, Michigan.

 See you there.

 http://www.xhedos.com

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Re: [313] topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread Christian Bloch
to my understanding there is no language called belgian, so my guess is
nobody else understands it either... :)

p.s. in belgium most people speak either dutch or french. other languages
include: europanto, german, luxembourgeois, picard and vlaams... that
concludes the european languages lesson for today...

Christian Bloch
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm

Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple
Muzik/Funque Droppings


- Original Message -
From: Neontsetse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313s 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet


I think he´s on holidays or something ...

(can´t understand belgian)

and it´s going on list as an automatic reply -

also interesting: some mails just came as html-letters

... techno techno techno







 Yeah Ive nee getting crazy dutch/flemmish emails from this guy all week -
 Ive tried mailing him back in a similar language but it doesnt seem to
have
 helped ! :[






AW: [313] topic: mailbox mystery: ik ben er even niet

2002-09-19 Thread contact

to my understanding there is no language called belgian, so my guess is
nobody else understands it either... :)

 correct :-)

p.s. in belgium most people speak either dutch or french. other languages
include: europanto, german, luxembourgeois, picard and vlaams... that
concludes the european languages lesson for today...

 the 3 official languages are: french, dutch and german.

greetz,
derb



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