Re: (313) Francois K
It's been mentioned before, but last time he visited us in Detroit, I recall about 6 people on the dance floor and maybe 15-20 in the room (plus or minus a couple for the bartenders). Probably not so much reason for him to come back, or for anyone to pay him to come back unfortunately. Maybe better/different promotion could solve that? I dono... I was pretty embarrassed for Detroit. Brent On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 12:23 AM, Kookie wrote: Please just come to Detroit. If it wasn't for finals, I was going to drive to Toronto to go catch hime last weekend. I need some Deep House from the master of it. - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: (313) Francois K Francois K on future of Body Soul/techno/etc: We're trying to find a proper situation for it to exist, we just didn't wanna continue with what we felt was not the proper atmosphere and situation for it, Francois says of Body Soul. But I'm also involved in a lot of other things, I'm doing a techno tour with Derrick May - it must be that I'm playing some different stuff (laughs deeply), so I hope that somehow I'm giving a little something to guess or wonder about, so that when I do play in Australia, hopefully it might not just be as predictable as one would think. There will be a few surprises thrown in there.
(313) just plainly wrong
http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?SKU=34914
(313) Bent Crayon
Anyone here had any experiences ordering vinyl from the Bent Crayon website? My girlfriend tried this yesterday and after selecting the merchandise she wanted and entering her address, she was told that the shipment was on its way - but she never entered any credit card info! Has anyone else had this experience? Don't tell me they ship COD... -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
(313) YMO tip
I know I already mentioned this, but if you're considering catching the YMO bug, or are just a bit curious, the best possible introduction to the band is to get one of their concert DVDs. The versions they do of their tracks live (especially in the Hurrah concert) have sooo much more energy than their albums. You can get most of their classic songs from multiple albums all together with the bonus of getting to see their surreal performances and lots of cool old synthesizers. As far as the vinyl goes, I'd recommend multiples x infinity, and their S/t. Technodelic sounds much less unique to me (kinda reminds me of Metamatics), and rather depressed. --
Re: (313) Bent Crayon
Most of the time I phone John when I want to order from him...it seems like website databases are never up to speed, so I find that it's best to give a call. I don't think John would ship COD unless he knew you awfully well. jef At 07:14 PM 12/16/2002, Dennis DeSantis wrote: Anyone here had any experiences ordering vinyl from the Bent Crayon website? My girlfriend tried this yesterday and after selecting the merchandise she wanted and entering her address, she was told that the shipment was on its way - but she never entered any credit card info! Has anyone else had this experience? Don't tell me they ship COD...
Re: (313) recording industry [mp3]
Hogie: Mmm Hmm. I've thought about ways to make a physical recording appealing enough to buy. Maybe even making the recording a secondary item bundled with something desirable enough to purchase? Limited edition Jason Hogans boxers and panties. Or some seriously cool packaging, like Radiohead's Amnesiac or Ghostly's Disco Nouveau. Jurren: that's one way of getting people to buy your music, but do you want to sell cd's/vinyl, or do you want to sell your music? why not offer them the chance to download your music from a website? sure, not everyone wants to pay for downloads, but would those people buy the physical copy? I hear you. I guess I feel the trouble with that is whether or not some folks pay for a download, others will not once its out there for the taking. There's possibly less incentive for paid downloads when you factor in the sound quality loss of compressed audio. Maybe not though cause paid downloads are still cheaper than CDs, eh? The title performing artist could take on a more strict meaning if it becomes very unprofitable for labels and musicians to release music. Recordings for free, performance for fee? I had similar ideas about labels taking on a somewhat different role of a promotional network or something, still allowing artists to concentrate on their art. But, I doubt it will go that far 'cause like you said J.B., there are collectors supporters out there. Perhaps we're tripping over nothing it will be business as usual. There's quite a few times I've heard something on the web copped it later. Technology could ultimately serve as a filter for ass-nasty music. Scenario 1: I heard that on www. so so and it swallowed, I won't buy it.. Or, Scenario 2: It was bangin', I need that!. No more hiding behind the shrink wrap! Could be good. We'll see... So, anybody need some fly underwear? JPH.
Re: (313) just plainly wrong
what's wrong with the chipmunks branching out? just because you're so damn intent on hearing the christmas album at this time of year. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: (313) just plainly wrong http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?SKU=349 14
Re: (313) recording industry [mp3]
- Original Message - From: Jason Hogans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) recording industry [mp3] Perhaps we're tripping over nothing it will be business as usual. There's quite a few times I've heard something on the web copped it later. Technology could ultimately serve as a filter for ass-nasty music. Scenario 1: I heard that on www. so so and it swallowed, I won't buy it.. Or, Scenario 2: It was bangin', I need that!. No more hiding behind the shrink wrap! Could be good. We'll see... I find this is already how it works for me. I don't mind spending a lot of time sifting through Real Audio samples at home, because I find it allows me to filter out my impulse purchases at the shop. It's never fool-proof, but with so much amazing music coming out, I will at least make sure I don't overspend on stuff I don't want, even if I still can't get everything I do want. I think the scenario you're describing is pretty accurate. I don't foresee the death of vinyl any time in the next 10 years, even with Final Scratch arriving on Mac and gaining acceptance. A couple of years ago people were heralding the doom of vinyl via new compression formats, and we're still not seeing them emerge with anywhere near the speed they were predicted. mp4 was 'just around the corner' three or four years ago, if I recall... If anything, the new encoding technologies are being developed faster for audiophiles than for piracy, see: SACD and DVD-Audio. But most importantly, a sizeable chunk of people are still going to seek the thrill of cracking open that brand new slab of wax, checking out the hidden messages in the matrices and throwing it on the platter for the first time, booming from ortofon + technics + crappy mixer + nice speakers. So, anybody need some fly underwear? Yes please, unless that's a strange permutation of fly paper. :) Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
(313) microworld live stuff
okaaayy well i thought i'd just say a few words cos i wasn't around last week, don't want anyone thinkin i'm a recalcitrant techno snob do i ? to all the deep space crew - jaime, dave, rosie, phil, tony james - thanx a bunch for making us so welcome looking after us, esp dave, rosie phil. cyclone - thanks for the 3D article thoughtful questions - don't know how derrick may suddenly became derrick carter but there you go...:^) sam k - 313er sometime microworlder - thankyou buddy for all your time and input and for making it a much more enjoyable experience than if i'd done it just by myself. i think that one of the best things about making music is getting to meet cool people - it sure makes all the not so exciting parts worthwhile. to anyone who tuned in to dark energy on sat nite, please ignore everything i said, i was TIRED and EMOTIONAL. coupla things i reckon are worth a squizz - detroit beatdown 2CD is quality deepness all the way, a real funkfest. also 'day by day' comp on delsin is real nice too. famous when dead 2 on playhouse is er strange, as you'd expect. later p
Re: (313) recording industry [mp3]
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 05:27 PM, Jason Hogans wrote: The title performing artist could take on a more strict meaning if it becomes very unprofitable for labels and musicians to release music. Recordings for free, performance for fee? fwiw, hawtin has been saying for some time now that this is his opinion of where it's going Perhaps we're tripping over nothing it will be business as usual. There's quite a few times I've heard something on the web copped it later. Technology could ultimately serve as a filter for ass-nasty music. already is. the number of records i've purchased in the last 2 years that i didn't listen to online first is very, very small
Re: (313) just plainly wrong
You mean this Christmas album? http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?SKU=34678 http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?SKU=34678 bah humbug! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/16/02 07:37 PMcc: Subject: Re: (313) just plainly wrong what's wrong with the chipmunks branching out? just because you're so damn intent on hearing the christmas album at this time of year. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: (313) just plainly wrong http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?SKU=349 14
(313) microworld live stuff
cyclone - thanks for the 3D article thoughtful questions - don't know how derrick may suddenly became derrick carter but there you go...:^) I haven't seen that yet! That was their subbing, not mine! They always confuse the Derricks in Sydney press, running each other's pictures and stuff. I have tried to explain!
Re: (313) Bent Crayon
[Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Most of the time I phone John when I want to order from him...it seems like website databases are never up to speed, so I find that it's best to give a call. I don't think John would ship COD unless he knew you awfully well. jef And knew for sure that you really wanted it. I'm not sure about the website ordering, as I always called or emailed. But I can tell you this: bentcrayon is the best there is! Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
(313) keyboards?
can anyone suggest some good quality keyboards for composing electronic music as well as practicing basic piano. I also need info about sound cards that might be a good match. thnx _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) Future Sound compilation on Rephlex
that'll be the west side remix of the classic 'don't lead me' by house master baldwin and paris grey. this mix isn't on the original 1987 release and i've never come across a copy of this mix (except on the rephlex comp.) which came out in 1993. i know kool kat released an e.p. with three mixes of 'don't lead me', i don't have it at hand, but i'm nearly certain that the west side mix isn't one of them. i've a few sealed copies of the original. i open one every now and then to smell the air of chicago in 1987. james From: Erik Jälevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:53:33 - To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Future Sound compilation on Rephlex I've got a CD compilation called The Best of Future Sound Records which came out on Rephlex in 94 on which the tracklisting seems to be wrong. There are 9 tracks on the disc but only 8 are listed on the cover. Track 4 is a really nice old-school Detroit type track and I'm trying to find out what it really is. The cover says Terry Baldwin Delta House but that's clearly wrong as that's the track after. Anyone have this who knows? Thanks.
RE: (313) Future Sound compilation on Rephlex
I have a copy that I want to part with. Hit me back privately. W -Original Message- From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 18 december 2002 11:50 To: Erik Jälevik; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Future Sound compilation on Rephlex that'll be the west side remix of the classic 'don't lead me' by house master baldwin and paris grey. this mix isn't on the original 1987 release and i've never come across a copy of this mix (except on the rephlex comp.) which came out in 1993. i know kool kat released an e.p. with three mixes of 'don't lead me', i don't have it at hand, but i'm nearly certain that the west side mix isn't one of them. i've a few sealed copies of the original. i open one every now and then to smell the air of chicago in 1987. james From: Erik Jälevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:53:33 - To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Future Sound compilation on Rephlex I've got a CD compilation called The Best of Future Sound Records which came out on Rephlex in 94 on which the tracklisting seems to be wrong. There are 9 tracks on the disc but only 8 are listed on the cover. Track 4 is a really nice old-school Detroit type track and I'm trying to find out what it really is. The cover says Terry Baldwin Delta House but that's clearly wrong as that's the track after. Anyone have this who knows? Thanks.
(313) Humanoid - Rephlex
Bent Crayon, coming soon section: HUMANOID: Sessions 84-88 CD (REPHLEX). Brian Dougans is most famous as half of the duo Future Sound Of London, but early recognition came for him with the European and UK hit single 'Stakker Humanoid', under the name Humanoid in 1988. 15.99/2XLP $TBA
Re: (313) Humanoid - Rephlex
- Original Message - From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: (313) Humanoid - Rephlex Bent Crayon, coming soon section: HUMANOID: Sessions 84-88 CD (REPHLEX). Brian Dougans is most famous as half of the duo Future Sound Of London, but early recognition came for him with the European and UK hit single 'Stakker Humanoid', under the name Humanoid in 1988. 15.99/2XLP $TBA I just stumbled onto this review of it on the Overload site last night: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/reviews/reviews.php?new_reviews=true 2002-12-11 - Single STAKKER 'Eurotechno' (Rephlex) Most people will recognise Stakker and immediately think of Humanoid and the alltime classic Stakker Humanoid. Well, Stakker is pioneering video artist Mark McLean who originally teamed up with Brian Dougans (Humanoid and half of FSOL) on this work that originally soundtracked an early foray into the art of visual stimulation. Rephlex have painstakingly tracked down the original video and remastered this lost treasure for a new generation to enjoy. For the record this is original acid rave UK style, a listen to this shows you what the likes of Kosmik Kommando and Squarepusher were brought up on. There is an art to getting funk out of a small silver box and a lot of today's artists could learn from this. It reminds me of a time of innocence and enthusiasm and a feeling that electronic music could go anywhere. For all the acid teds and heds out there, and for anyone who loved the original Stakker Humanoid this is a document of those fresh and exciting times. MH Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
(313) swayzak
it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason
Re: (313) swayzak
Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and most def. the Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc. There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much about it. ;-) I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising Swayzak. nice one, fab. - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: (313) swayzak it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason
Re: (313) MOS - Aminpeck
track is unreleased and no other plans yet At 14-12-2002 -0500 13:04, you wrote: downloaded this from the MOS website. Does anyone know if it was released on 12 and on what label? cheers pc
Re: (313) swayzak
similar thing happened to me ordering no.1 clubtune in laurent garners playlist' (me believing in french dj whom I kinda respect): northern light - my pain - lasergun. hopefully managed to cancel my order after hearing few seconds of RA soundbytes on the net. lived in the 80's (being pretty young) and believe better stick to the originals ... listen-to-your-ears-mislav-or-have-a-trustee-somewhere ... - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:15 Subject: (313) swayzak it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason
(313) One last mixer question
As tempted as I was by the PCV-275, its lack of an adjustable crossfader curve put me off in the end. In my quest to find something that can support the more hip-hop inspired mixing style of booty with my typical techno/house mixing activities, however, I came across this, the Stanton SMX-501: http://www.stantonmagnetics.com/alpha44/mixers_smx-501.asp It seems to have pretty much every feature you'd want from a battle mixer, but at the same time has things like effects sends which would allow me to get all self-indulgent while making four-hour mix sessions comprised solely of two copies of C4 blended into one another. So this simple question is for the pessimists, nay-sayers and half-emptiers of the list: why should I *not* buy this mixer? Answers are probably best supplied off-list, though, for fear of re-starting a four-day off-topic thread... :) Brendan
(313) song ID
Got a song request for you'se. about 38 mins, carl craig @ panacea on paxahau. http://www.paxahau.com/sounds/2001/adecember/12-31-01_carlcraig_1_panacea.ram nice one -s _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) swayzak
I've been a big swayzak fan since the release of Snowboarding in 98. It doesn't happen often but when I heard that record I felt that I'd found my ideal sound (at the time). Himawari I also love, they started the vocals on this but IMO it worked well. The first track 'Illegal' features Benjamin Zephaniah and it works well. The third track, 'State of Grace' sounds more like the dirty dancing stuff. There are aspects of the first album though, Leisure Centre and Betek are great tracks. When I bought dirty dancing I wasn't impressed, the only track I like is 'ping pong'. The good things you've been hearing about swayzak are justified, but the things you've been hearing don't apply to the last album. Some of the 12s they've released also stand out as some of their best work, 020100 is a great track, a couple of the Theorem collaborations are good too. Cheers --Mike Fabrizio Nahum wrote: Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and most def. the Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc. There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much about it. ;-) I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising Swayzak. nice one, fab. - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: (313) swayzak it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason -- Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/
Re: (313) swayzak
Oh almost forgot, you can hear my take on swayzak stuff, http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/%7Emhl/eletero-qualitas.mp3 ;) plug while I get the chance. Michael Lees wrote: I've been a big swayzak fan since the release of Snowboarding in 98. It doesn't happen often but when I heard that record I felt that I'd found my ideal sound (at the time). Himawari I also love, they started the vocals on this but IMO it worked well. The first track 'Illegal' features Benjamin Zephaniah and it works well. The third track, 'State of Grace' sounds more like the dirty dancing stuff. There are aspects of the first album though, Leisure Centre and Betek are great tracks. When I bought dirty dancing I wasn't impressed, the only track I like is 'ping pong'. The good things you've been hearing about swayzak are justified, but the things you've been hearing don't apply to the last album. Some of the 12s they've released also stand out as some of their best work, 020100 is a great track, a couple of the Theorem collaborations are good too. Cheers --Mike Fabrizio Nahum wrote: Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and most def. the Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc. There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much about it. ;-) I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising Swayzak. nice one, fab. - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: (313) swayzak it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason -- Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/
Re: (313) swayzak
a couple of the Theorem collaborations are good too. Yeah i forgot!!! probably my fave material besides snowboarding... serious crossover appeal for both the deep-tech headz and the minimal fiends out there ciao fab. - Original Message - From: Michael Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) swayzak I've been a big swayzak fan since the release of Snowboarding in 98. It doesn't happen often but when I heard that record I felt that I'd found my ideal sound (at the time). Himawari I also love, they started the vocals on this but IMO it worked well. The first track 'Illegal' features Benjamin Zephaniah and it works well. The third track, 'State of Grace' sounds more like the dirty dancing stuff. There are aspects of the first album though, Leisure Centre and Betek are great tracks. When I bought dirty dancing I wasn't impressed, the only track I like is 'ping pong'. The good things you've been hearing about swayzak are justified, but the things you've been hearing don't apply to the last album. Some of the 12s they've released also stand out as some of their best work, 020100 is a great track, a couple of the Theorem collaborations are good too. Cheers --Mike Fabrizio Nahum wrote: Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and most def. the Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc. There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much about it. ;-) I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising Swayzak. nice one, fab. - Original Message - From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: (313) swayzak it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason -- Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/
Re: (313) One last mixer question
I really like stanton mixers. I have bought two this year one for me and a friend, both the SK-2F. I find there design to easy to use, with med. size knobs, nice smooth faders, and a very clean sound. I also like the way the EQ cuts and how powerful it is; I used a numark before. I recomend this mixer to everyone who is looking for a two channel scratch style, so I don't see why the three channel version would differ. also there price is unbeatable; I picked one up off of ebay for $150 +s/h scotto lansing, mi. As tempted as I was by the PCV-275, its lack of an adjustable crossfader curve put me off in the end. In my quest to find something that can support the more hip-hop inspired mixing style of booty with my typical techno/house mixing activities, however, I came across this, the Stanton SMX-501: http://www.stantonmagnetics.com/alpha44/mixers_smx-501.asp It seems to have pretty much every feature you'd want from a battle mixer, but at the same time has things like effects sends which would allow me to get all self-indulgent while making four-hour mix sessions comprised solely of two copies of C4 blended into one another. So this simple question is for the pessimists, nay-sayers and half-emptiers of the list: why should I *not* buy this mixer? Answers are probably best supplied off-list, though, for fear of re-starting a four-day off-topic thread... :) Brendan
RE: (313) swayzak
Dirty Dancing is definitely missable. I remember liking Himawari a lot when it came out (2000?) but haven't listened to it in ages so possibly not as outstanding as I thought at the time? Having said that my taste has changed (expanded in a positive way I like to think ; ) quite a bit since then so that's perhaps why. The Swayzak vs. Theorem tunes are _really_ good though. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. Well, I grew up in the 70's, and tbh a lot of the stuff that was punk rock didn't really ring that true back then either. But - it was something different, and in this respect your comment is spot-on. Thanks! Anya Nina Hagen rocks! -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:15 PM To: sean deason; techno; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) swayzak it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and angst punk rock is just satire. sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason
Re: (313) 808 State
better late then never but i can agree on this one. the period with just before ninety and ex:el was the best. wasn't that fond of solaris (or what was the album after ex:el called?) with ninety and ex:el they got more more their own typical sound, with olympic and lift etc. don't know even how to call it - but ninety in it's original form (not the tommy boy us version) is the best for me.. indeed with magical dream, donkey doctor, cobra bora and more - only eight/nine tracks - i mean, it really was an album i've been even to a concert, they did back then, in nighttown rotterdam at the same time, the shamen had their own sound system and did a tour as well, synergy or some like that? i got that video they did, called optical good to say mc tunes doing he dance chill moves :) at that time ztt should be doing a project by may, saunderson and atkins as well - intellex or some? At 13-12-2002 -0600 06:03, you wrote: you gotta be kidding me, their best stuff (in my opinion) was after he left Pacific State, Cobra Bora, album 90, album Ex:Cel, ect.. on 12/13/02 5:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PREAnything they did when Gerald was a member is worth picking up as well as ALL Geralds early stuff. They weren't that good after he left imo... .. . :: http://nomorewords.net
Re: (313) 808 State
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 10:01 AM, marsel wrote: better late then never I meant to chime in on this too -- Don Solaris is my favorite, in all its overly-romantic, uber-produced glory. I think it holds together as an album better than any of the others, and has some of the best vocal performances (Louise Rhodes, James Dean Bradfield) to boot.
RE: (313) swayzak
don´t care if dirty dancing LP is fashionable or not. there´s only one track that doestn´t do it for me. buffalo seven with vocals from kotai is one of the best tracks on 2002 on my list but gotta admit i liked shape memory effect ep even more :)
RE: (313) nyc nye
Here's a good nye party, it won't cost you $200, and it will go until at least 2pm the next day ;) Magda/Dinky/Plexus/Troy/Ambassador http://www.olex.org/NYE/02.html -Pete -Original Message- From: MadR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 8:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) nyc nye --- Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Doris. There's this thing that you might want to check out NYE in NYC that's WAY better than Oakey (unless it's Human League Oakey, and that would acceptable. I think). They have this giant party where everyone gathers in Times Square. Heck even Dick Clark shows up every year! Anyways, they do this thing where they drop the ball on NYC, ushering in the new year with alot of people and confetti and MTV has bad musical guests. You might want to check that out. Last I heard it's free of cost, and it's free of Oakey. - The Theakston well you get Tiesto instead haha !!! mad'r __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: (313) 808 State
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Marsel; at that time ztt should be doing a project by may, saunderson and atkins as well - intellex or some? Ok, anyone want to tell me more? I know of a pop-ish project by Derrick and Juan that never got released (mind you, it doesn't sound that pop, maybe thats why it never came out). The same thing? - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
Re: (313) 808 State
i guess it's the same i should have to check my techno magazine archive there was an article about it in a dutch magazine :) At 17-12-2002 + 15:19, you wrote: Marsel; at that time ztt should be doing a project by may, saunderson and atkins as well - intellex or some? Ok, anyone want to tell me more? I know of a pop-ish project by Derrick and Juan that never got released (mind you, it doesn't sound that pop, maybe thats why it never came out). The same thing? .. . :: http://nomorewords.net
Re: (313) 808 State
It was supposed to be Derrick, Kevin and Juan, but I would assume that Inner City pulled Kevin's attention away. I didn't think it ever got to the point where any material was produced? Would have been interesting to see Detroit techno packaged as a group through the ZTT filter ... -d On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 10:21 AM, marsel wrote: i guess it's the same i should have to check my techno magazine archive there was an article about it in a dutch magazine :) At 17-12-2002 + 15:19, you wrote: Marsel; at that time ztt should be doing a project by may, saunderson and atkins as well - intellex or some? Ok, anyone want to tell me more? I know of a pop-ish project by Derrick and Juan that never got released (mind you, it doesn't sound that pop, maybe thats why it never came out). The same thing? .. . :: http://nomorewords.net
RE: (313) 808 State
I'd also heard that it was going to be produced by Trevor Horn, who had had some strange ideas about a black-futurist-hetero Pet Shop Boys... as interesting an idea as it sounds, I can imagine that not doing it was the right thing to do... | -Original Message- | From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 17 December 2002 15:35 | To: marsel | Cc: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: (313) 808 State | | | It was supposed to be Derrick, Kevin and Juan, but I would | assume that | Inner City pulled Kevin's | attention away. | | I didn't think it ever got to the point where any material | was produced? | | Would have been interesting to see Detroit techno packaged as | a group | through the ZTT filter ... | | -d | | On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 10:21 AM, marsel wrote: | | | i guess it's the same | | i should have to check my techno magazine archive | there was an article about it in a dutch magazine | :) | | At 17-12-2002 + 15:19, you wrote: | Marsel; | at that time ztt should be doing a project by may, saunderson and | atkins | as | well - intellex or some? | | Ok, anyone want to tell me more? I know of a pop-ish project by | Derrick and | Juan that never got released (mind you, it doesn't sound that pop, | maybe | thats why it never came out). The same thing? | | | .. . :: http://nomorewords.net | | | |
Re: (313) swayzak
He also did the Groovetechnology v1.3 mix for Groovetech, which has a nice tracklist - haven't heard the mix though. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
Re: (313) swayzak
That mix is in fact a real nice ride, as nice as the track selection suggests. http://www.k7.com/data.pl?release=K7122CD http://www.k7.com/audio/audio.cgi?DE-G93-02-90023.rm And it's they not he, James Taylor David Brown. Gz, I gotta stop reading this list so much... Where's my anorak? Anya : ) From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue 17/Dec/2002 16:17 GMT To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) swayzak He also did the Groovetechnology v1.3 mix for Groovetech, which has a nice tracklist - haven't heard the mix though. ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
(313) How to kill electroclash (was: swayzak)
Instead of accepting the term electroclash (which has obviously allowed this thing to go on way longer than the music's 15-minutes of fame one-note humor deserves) why don't we steal a term from architecture and call it Electro Revival in the breathiest upper-class british accent we can muster. sort of like a house -- you know, it's a tudor Reh-VI-val, dee-ah.(Remember, a tudor revival bears about as much similarity to tudor architecture as electroclash bears to the 80's as many of us lived it...) I think the term Revival might be extra fun too, for Detroiters -- if intoned with a fake British accent, it might have the amusing effect of reminding folks of the dreadfully affected pseudo-british accents some locals took on during the early-to-mid 80's yeesh. two weeks of that kind of treatment, and electroclash will be gone. RIP. -m. At 7:15 AM -0500 12/17/02, sean deason wrote: sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason
(313) thomas fehlman contacts.(OT)
hi all any chance any of u have it? y.
Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)
Man that was a pain in the ass to install. - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public) http://www.ableton.com/beta/download.php Please send all bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not use any other email address, the forum or other means of contact to report a bug. -Joe jinjin_a_gogo: i wonder what he's listening to in those bigazz headphones while's he's spinning this shxt for us
Re: (313) swayzak
I really liked Bueno/Fukumachi, the first Swayzak release (1997). And they've put out quite a variety since then, many of which are at least pretty good. When they came to town here in Portland about a year ago, they played a great live set and I had a long talk with them afterwards (which also involved visiting my office and admiring my record collection, which always goes a long way with me :) I haven't heard the current stuff but it wouldn't surprise me if they picked up the Joy Divisionish sound for the moment -- David Brown is from Scotland so I presume the Mancunian influence is pretty strong. But what really drives these guys is dub -- I know they were big fans of Adrian Sherwood and the On-U Sound fraternity, which has also been a key influence for me (the on-u mailing list, which I still am on, was the first one I ever subcribed to on the Net, back in 1989). So I would recommend (to Sean and anyone else) to check out their other stuff as well. fred
