(313) OT- 93 darkside jungle mix

2003-06-16 Thread Recoil >


well off topic, but if any of you like that '93 darkcore jungle, here is an 
old mix I did last year.


it's 45 minutes, but i'm gonna put the whole 80 minute mix out soon

click this link to stream

http://www.ragga-jungle.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=getit&lid=92

or click this to download

http://media.ragga-jungle.com/play.php?file=/Mixes/Recoil/Astral_Physics.MP3&download=1

e-z

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(313) RND

2003-06-16 Thread philip

haye !

anyone know of any rednose district audio online ? thanx

p



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread FRED giannelli
OK, hot shot designers.  Here's a contest.

Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain
PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for
that Akufen remix I did of "My Kooky Way".

In other words $0.00

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


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on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
> me.
> 
> More, please.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> label design and music are equally important.
> 
> this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.
> 
> tom 
> 
> 
> andythepooh.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



(313) New Mix Available at threeonethree.com.

2003-06-16 Thread Matthew Mangold
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

DJ Kage - Nature of Textures (74m:05s) 128k mp3

Noah Pred - Deep Dub (White)
Kage - An 'Untitled' Venture  (White)
EBE - In The Wake (Grayhound)
Peter Grummich - Flashback (Send 23)
Fortek - Fellony of Sound (?)
EBE - EnRoute (Grayhound)
Underworld - Dirty Epic (JBO)
Joris Voorn - Fever (Keynote)
Adam Jay - Half Past Midnight (Pacfic Technics White)
Alex Bau - Monodeep (Default)
Tomie Nevada - Gotham City (Zenit)
Virulent - Northbound (White)
Bryan Zentz - Equal (Bush)
Bando - New Way (Superbra)
Patrick Dubois - Rebeginning (Superbra)
Misjah - ? (Zync White)
Henry Chow - Operating System (White)
Kage - Unify  (Open Source Recordings White)

Threeonethree.com is proud to present a mix by DJ Kage. Kage (pronounced
Ka-ghei) has been entertaining dancefloors since 1999, and has taken Detroit
by storm over the past two years. With solid performances in the Nefarious
booth at Detroit's annual Electronic Music Festivals three years running--
and guest spots at the legendary club at Motor and Ann Arbor's Necto, this
young talent is something to keep an eye out for. He has recently thrown his
hat into the production ring, belting out his first full-length EP on Azure
Records, and also contributing a track to Berettamusic's first 12": The
Recoil EP.

Catch Kage in the D on Saturday nights at Buzz-- held at Cup-A-Cino coffee
house in Grosse Pointe Park; 15104 Kercheval 9P-12A. You can also find out
more about Kage and download more of his mixes and productions by pointing
your browser to http://www.djkage.com.


xo,
313




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Azure Recordshttp://www.azurerecords.com
Techno City Records  http://www.technocityrecords.com
Open Source Records  http://www.opensourcerecords.com
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Re: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread sean deason
dammit Dale! how many do I have to tell you!?? Stay the hell away from my
mule!!!


sean


p.s. and dont give me that "but we're in love" crap again either!


- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"


>
> Okay if this thread is going to stop, let me just say that after a
> lengthy discussion, Andy Kellman and I have decided that we're going to
> re-write Techno Rebels.
>
> Dan, we like your content and the direction you were going...but the
> graphic design on the front could be a lot better and you need to have
> more on the importance of happy hardcore in the Detroit community. So
> look for Techno Rebels 2.0 : Electric Boogaloo (complete with weighted,
> balanced fonts for aesthetic importance!) at a Barnes and Noble near you
> some time in 2005.
> Right now the cover shot is going to be Dale Lawrence naked, riding a
> mule and strumming a guitar.
>
> And thanks Dan, for without you we couldn't have reworked the history of
> Detroit techno.
>
> Rok
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: jake
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
>
>
> j> man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb!
>
> j> U CANT TOUCH DIS
>
> Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *hammer time
>
>



Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread Phonopsia
Ha! Didn't think this would balloon like this right before I left the
country for two days... I'll try and hit on some of this.

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> i definitely disagree. when i play records, i bring a variety of
> sounds. if one thing in particular is making people react, then i
> run with it. i remember one gig i started out by playing some carl
> craig, dan bell, and recloose records. people really werent
> feeling it too much so i moved into more broken beat territory,
> then when i started dropping the ragga influenced broken beat and
> 2-step, heads went wild. so i kept playing that kind of stuff. had
> i rocked strictly the 313 style techno, the reaction and
> satisfaction with my set would have dropped a ton.

By all means I think this is *one* great way to do it. However I don't think
it's the only way, and if I hope a set like Brendan's @ Cannonball changes
perceptions, I hope it's that it will reveal to people that there are other
ways, not that it is a better one.

The reason why I think it's more about the assembled crowd than the DJ's
reactivity is for the same reasons you like to react. I know what you
explained above isn't the only way you'd do it, but it sounds like a sort of
trial and error thing until the crowd responds well, and then you run with
that. Conversely, I (sometimes) like to stay one or two steps ahead of the
crowd. If they react well to house, I'll move into techno. If they reject
the broken beat, I'll play some house and come back to it in a new context.
If I feel like playing house all damn night, then I'll find a way to make it
work - or it'll fail and I will have f*cked up everyone's night because they
don't like good house music. ;) Point being I feel like I can take more
musical risks if I limit my choices, and in my experience performing like
this (some of the time), the crowd reaction has been as good if not better,
assuming there was an open-minded crowd in attendance.

Anyway... I never claimed there wasn't value in reacting to a crowd, but I
think there's other ways to win a crowd over, and I think my favorite
performances are the ones where the DJ will push me where (s)he wants to
take me, rather than a DJ who allows the crowd to make decisions for him/her
(yep, I know that's a twisting of your words). :) So it's a gamble.
Sometimes the crowd just won't come along. I think that's precisely the
challenge. I think this is less an issue of planned vs. unplanned sets, and
more an issue of the DJ stepping up to be the director rather than the
reactor. A big part of this is being a good performer, and I think that
planned and unplanned sets can be equally good performances because...

From: "Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Waveless DJing

> But check this out.  Back in the day there was a DJ in detroit named Ray
> Berry.  Jeff Mills and Berry were the first tricksters I saw.  Berry had
> this thing where he would scratch with his mouth...then with his shoe.
> And Mills was (in his hiphop days) quicksilver personified...which is a
> trick in and of itself.
>
> The first few times I saw them, I was blown away.  Now?  I'm nonplussed.
> Just give me the MUSIC.  DJs to me should blend into the woodwork.
> Granted, I got extra excited when I saw THeo getting into the groove...but
> that wasn't because of his tricks, but because of his enthusiasm.
>
> I'm pretty sure enthusiasm is portable, regardless of the medium.

This is precisely it. A DJ can do more to move a crowd by being a part of
it. I'm not trying to say you need to get spastic and flail all over
(although it can be fun), but this sort of stuff really helps bridge the gap
between performer and audience. I think this is the best way to involve the
crowd, rather than waiting for the crowd to say what they like. Yeah - I
know I'm sticking words in your guys' mouths, but allow me some latitude to
abuse rhetoric while making a controversial point. If I can persuade the
crowd that I know what I'm doing, and they are open minded, then the best
dancefloor experience will be their tacit approval of everything I try. I
don't mean they'll like everything, but if I have their faith from the
beginning and they let me move them, it will be the best for all involved.
When I go to see a DJ, I want them to show me what they got. All of it, not
just what made a good first impression. It's riskier but the reward is
greater.

I was going to say that this enthusiasm needn't be spontaneous. I can get
off playing a mostly planned set for a crowd that likes it. Again, I need to
clarify that this is absolutely not how I always do things, but I do like to
have a good idea of what's getting played, and often the best set will
involve some planned direction, even if only for maybe the first 1/2-hour,
or the first ten

Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread spacecrusher
this thread is oddly relevant to two different aspects of my friday night.  

my bud Jack Buser was doing a live set in a backroom at the big club here in 
SF- 1015, and he just gets into it.  One of our mutual friends commented that 
it was like watching a puppetshow cuz he was bopping around and just rockin out 
like that.  Lets put it this way- remember the party you were at when you were 
dancing up a storm more than any other time cuz you were just that into it? 
well if a waveless DJ is that excited to be playing their own music for a 
crowd, which is pretty reasonable, why shouldn't they go bonkers? and if 
there's parts of the crowd that vibe off that energy? well, great.  thats a 
great side effect at least, I guess as long as its not just theatrical fluff 
thats a put on. 

contrasting this, there was another side room where the DJ was playing 
"electroclash".  ZERO skills tho- she wasn't even bothering to mix the records. 
songs would literaly end and be silent and then she'd let the next one start 
up.  Sounds retarded right?  well, oh I should mention that she was topless, 
just wearing some lingerie and letting her big fake tits hang out for the crowd 
of dudes to gape at the whole time.  During parts of some songs she'd get great 
cheers by rubbing her breats like a stripper (which I'm pretty sure she is).

anyway, I'm sure some of that audience took something home with them that night!

-- Original Message --
From: lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:07:57 -0400

>Gosh Martin, those DUST events must be pretty good then eh?  ;)
>
>sean you dirty birdie, after reading your post I have visions of DJ peep 
>booths - lol!
>
>lisa
>
>
>sean deason wrote:
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there
to provide the music.
>>>
>> 
>>>Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of
>>>what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom.
>>>
>>>Martin
>> 
>> 
>> WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew
>> this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were
>> staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper
>> porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to
>> manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that
>> crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up...
>> 
>> :^)
>> sean
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
>



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RE: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Rob Theakston

Okay if this thread is going to stop, let me just say that after a
lengthy discussion, Andy Kellman and I have decided that we're going to
re-write Techno Rebels. 

Dan, we like your content and the direction you were going...but the
graphic design on the front could be a lot better and you need to have
more on the importance of happy hardcore in the Detroit community. So
look for Techno Rebels 2.0 : Electric Boogaloo (complete with weighted,
balanced fonts for aesthetic importance!) at a Barnes and Noble near you
some time in 2005.
Right now the cover shot is going to be Dale Lawrence naked, riding a
mule and strumming a guitar. 

And thanks Dan, for without you we couldn't have reworked the history of
Detroit techno.

Rok



-Original Message-
From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:41 PM
To: jake
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"


j> man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb!

j> U CANT TOUCH DIS

Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop*









*hammer time




Re: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music

2003-06-16 Thread Cyclone Wehner
What I find hilarious is EVERYONE is working on it. Deep Dish, Richard X, 
Morillo, Felix Da Housecat. It's like a hip-hop album stashed with cameos.
I hear Let's Get Ill sounds very like Joey Beltram, which can't be a bad
thing.
I interviewed Ali from Deep Dish the other nite and he was saying that Puff
used to hang out at Paradise Garage, so I guess he has the credentials
now... ;)
Maybe it's me but those first two Puff albums still sound tight to me five
years on...
I think it's something that will take off everywhere but the US. It could be
Puffy's UNKLE. ;)



--
>From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 313 List <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:51 PM
>

> That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so do you reckon
> he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?
> 


Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince

j> man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb!

j> U CANT TOUCH DIS

Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop*









*hammer time



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread MM
yea that was a good one...the white  label thing was pretty good as
well.

michael
www.renegaderhythms.com



Rob Theakston wrote:

> Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
> me.
>
> More, please.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >label design and music are equally important.
>
> this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.
>
> tom
>
> 
> andythepooh.com
>
>
>



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread jake

man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb!

U CANT TOUCH DIS

:-p


On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:06  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I love that one record label called "white label" - they have all 
sorts of
music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on 
any
of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, 
although
sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says "promo" - whatever  
the

hell that means
anyone know where I can find a discog for them?

MEK



  spw
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   
313@hyperreal.org

  gy.net>  cc:
   Subject:  Re: (313) 
Richie Hawtin "k"

  06/16/03 11:54 AM






label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
said:

What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a 
techno

label.

"The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in 
caps,

it's a

nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a

clever

substitution in a word."


I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary 
to
the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but 
the

label art or name was poorly executed.

I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda 
cool,
I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought 
this

cat was on the level as he uses two "n's" in Moodymann.

I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than 
a
hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz 
Audio

records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for 
a

label?  :/


--

Benn Glazier
aka DJ Royal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
http://www.royaltech.net



=












RE: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Rob Theakston
Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
me.

More, please.



-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

-- Original Message --
From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>label design and music are equally important.

this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   



Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread lisa

Gosh Martin, those DUST events must be pretty good then eh?  ;)

sean you dirty birdie, after reading your post I have visions of DJ peep 
booths - lol!


lisa


sean deason wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there
to provide the music.





Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of
what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom.

Martin



WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew
this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were
staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper
porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to
manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that
crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up...

:^)
sean








Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>label design and music are equally important.

this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Garrett McGrath
whoever they are, it bugs me that they constantly use those cheap paper 
sleeves.  you'd think that if they are saving so much $ on design they 
could at least cough it up for some real cardboard.


On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:06  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I love that one record label called "white label" - they have all 
sorts of
music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on 
any
of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, 
although
sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says "promo" - whatever  
the

hell that means
anyone know where I can find a discog for them?

MEK



  spw
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   
313@hyperreal.org

  gy.net>  cc:
   Subject:  Re: (313) 
Richie Hawtin "k"

  06/16/03 11:54 AM






label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
said:

What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a 
techno

label.

"The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in 
caps,

it's a

nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a

clever

substitution in a word."


I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary 
to
the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but 
the

label art or name was poorly executed.

I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda 
cool,
I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought 
this

cat was on the level as he uses two "n's" in Moodymann.

I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than 
a
hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz 
Audio

records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for 
a

label?  :/


--

Benn Glazier
aka DJ Royal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
http://www.royaltech.net



=









Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

I love that one record label called "white label" - they have all sorts of
music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on any
of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, although
sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says "promo" - whatever  the
hell that means
anyone know where I can find a discog for them?

MEK



   
  spw   
   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   313@hyperreal.org 

  gy.net>  cc:  
   
   Subject:  Re: (313) Richie 
Hawtin "k"   
  06/16/03 11:54 AM 
   

   

   




label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > What do you mean for no other reason?
> > How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
> > label.
> >
> > > "The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps,
it's a
> > > nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a
clever
> > > substitution in a word."
>
> I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to
> the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the
> label art or name was poorly executed.
>
> I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool,
> I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this
> cat was on the level as he uses two "n's" in Moodymann.
>
> I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a
> hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio
> records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
> and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
> label?  :/
>
>
> --
>
> Benn Glazier
> aka DJ Royal
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
> http://www.royaltech.net


=








Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Garrett McGrath

On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 09:54  AM, spw wrote:


label design and music are equally important.


wow.



Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

I think you're confusing Adam and the Ants with Atom Ant.
Atom Ant was a kids cartoon

come to think of it so was Adam and the Ants ;)

MEK





  The REAL Mxyzptlk 

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   Ian <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> 
  omcast.net>   cc:   313@hyperreal.org 

Subject:  Re: (313) and now - a 
cheeky question (2nd re-post)   
  06/16/03 12:52 PM 










>
> > Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)
>
>Let's not dis the New Romantics, now.  How else would we have gotten
>Frequency 7?

Or Atom and the Ants :-)

 jeff (Dirk isn't the only one
wearing white sox)









Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread spw
label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even 
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > What do you mean for no other reason?
> > How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
> > label.
> > 
> > > "The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, 
> > > it's a
> > > nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
> > > substitution in a word."
> 
> I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to
> the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the
> label art or name was poorly executed.
> 
> I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool,
> I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this
> cat was on the level as he uses two "n's" in Moodymann.
> 
> I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a
> hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio
> records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
> and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
> label?  :/
> 
> 
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Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk




> Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)

Let's not dis the New Romantics, now.  How else would we have gotten
Frequency 7?


Or Atom and the Ants :-)

jeff (Dirk isn't the only one 
wearing white sox)





Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread Ian
On 6/16/03 1:04 PM, "The REAL Mxyzptlk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)

Let's not dis the New Romantics, now.  How else would we have gotten
Frequency 7?

Back on topic,
-- 
im



Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
FASCIST


>
> Ah but I'm putting a twist on it-
>
> i'm call this Nü Romantiks
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>   The REAL Mxyzptlk
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
313@hyperreal.org
>   omcast.net>   cc:
> Subject:  RE: (313) and
now - a cheeky question (2nd
>   06/16/03 12:04 PM  re-post)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and
> placing fake birthmarks over their lips.
> 
> At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote:
>
> >It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number?
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)
>
>  jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Ah but I'm putting a twist on it-

i'm call this Nü Romantiks

MEK




  The REAL Mxyzptlk 

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wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and
placing fake birthmarks over their lips.

At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote:

>It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number?






Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)

 jeff









Re: (313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread alex . bond

aha, the mysterious 1-11 returns!

>Hahaha!

>Mr Bond does technical support!

they obviously don't know me mate
I still can't work this f**king toaster with a micro-chip in.

Alex
(tries his best, but, sheesh, I dunno...)


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RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk

wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and
placing fake birthmarks over their lips.

At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote:


It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number?







Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-)

jeff




(313) OT- help! disk space problems

2003-06-16 Thread Recoil >

hi - for some reason, my computer started acting up a couple days ago

i dont know much about these things, so i was hoping someone could shine a 
little light for me


now, whenever i am using some application .. for example ... recording a mix 
in SOundforge .. it stopped recording .. saying i had used up all my 
temporary disk space


then it prompted me to delete my temp internet files, recycle bin, etc, 
which i did .. but that hardly made a difference


then it got even worse, and wouldnt even let me open MSN messnger, saying it 
wasnt able to until i quit other apps


it's a pentium 933, with 36 Gb (15.4 being used)

i think it's a glitch - i cant see how i'm actually using so much that it 
cant run .. cuz it normally works fine



-i did however delete all my mixes which were in wav format .. that was 
probably taking up quite a bit of space, that semeed to help , but time will 
tell if it will give me the disk space warning


can someone tell me what is going on?

cheers

Liam


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Re: (313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread 1-11
Hahaha!

Mr Bond does technical support!  

What has the world come to?



RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number?

MEK



   
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Wow you just discovered an incredible new way to market classical music!!!


dave

>>>MEK wrote:

that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the
recent "electro" revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and
focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they
have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if
classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and
placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much
no?

MEK











Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight


>>its not like watching someone put a record on a turntable and then
>>play with the pitch until it plays at the same tempo as the other
>>record is the epitome of excitement (theo parrish and titonton are

>exactly, it's NOT. i never realized how much the actual turning of the
head,
>moving of the arms, looking around etc, actually mattered, until i had
>witnessed performance after performance of people staring straight ahead
>immobile, doing things? i'm not sure.


 that a DJ does pull their eyes up off of the decks is important in the
communication between his/her audience and themsleves. I know there are a
lot of DJs who never look around or seem to acknowledge the dancefloor but,
personally, if a DJ looks up from the decks to see how people are reacting
and maybe in turn cracks a smile or in some way acknowledges the audience -
bang, there is suddenly two way communication going on. For me, that is the
essence of what music is all about. A nightclub or party should be a
communion (and I don't mean the Christian definition of it - although it
could lead to a quasi-religious experience).


MEK




RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk



 wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and
placing fake birthmarks over their lips.


I was doing this WAY before it was cool.

jeff




RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-16 Thread David Powers
Wow you just discovered an incredible new way to market classical music!!!


dave  

>>>MEK wrote:

that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the
recent "electro" revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and
focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they
have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if
classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and
placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much
no?

MEK






Re: (313) Kirk Deg

2003-06-16 Thread Charles Coke-Smyth

http://www.juno.co.uk has tracklistings...

At 15:50 16/06/2003 +0200, Michel Rijnders wrote:

Anbody got a tracklisting?

On Monday 16 June 2003 12:20, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote:
> Following the Kirk Deg. conversation on fri...I forgot which of you ppl
> where after the information about this release.
>
>
>
>
> "
> As One "So Far... So Good" (Ubiquity CD/LP)
>
> First in our "So Far . . . " series this time highlighting 12 years of Kirk
> Degiorgios work under the As One guise. Rare tracks, unreleased material,
> and classics from albums and singles on labels like Shield, art, New
> Electronica and Ubiquity.
> "
>
> Release Date : 17/6/ -- That tomorrow folks !!
>
>
> Rav

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(313) WBAR 87.9 NYC - Playlist - 6-13-03

2003-06-16 Thread Eric Scuccimarra

DJ Skooch 
(www.skooch.com)
June 13, 2003 
5"300-8:00pm EST 
live stream
www.wbar.org
/ 87.9 FM in New York
Plastikman - Drp - Plus 8
Maurizio - M7 - Maurizio
Laurent Garnier - Smart Move - F Comm
Las Americas - Worship (Jetstream mix) - Definitive
Eddie Flashin Fowlkes - Oh Lord - Azuli
Distant Drums - Junk Funk (Acid Test Mix) - Out on a Limb
Neil Landstrumm - Takks - Peacefrog
DJ Sneak & Armand Van Helden - Psychic Bounty Killaz and Part 2 - Hyper Hype / Armed
Le Knight Club - Intergalactic Disko (Sneak Mix) - Crydamoure
DJ ESP - Slo Mo - Definitive
DJ ESP - I Like to Get Down - Communique
Stickmen - Step Tap - Definitive
Alpha Wave - 777 (Plastikman Remix) - Astralwerks
C. Pen w/ JT Donaldson - Defunkt - Beat Non Stop
Robotman - Do Da Doo (Plastikman Rmx) - Definitive
Cantina - Mos Eisley Medley - Definitive
Barada - Fusebox - Definitive
Dwarf - Percussion Electrique - Accelerate
DBX - Losing Control - Accelerate
Chito's Revenge (D. Alvarado) - Lagrimas - Bomb
Nitzer Ebb - Let Your Body Learn - Geffen
DJ ESP - Lost in the Desert - Bush
Blunted Boy Wonder - Circuit Sex - Novamute
Bryan Zentz - Medicine Drum - Tronic
Plastikman - Spastik - Plus 8
Neil Landstrumm - Sniff & Destroy - Peacefrog
Clark - Jak to Basics - Planet E
DJ Hell - Motherfunk - Disko B
DJ Skull - Acid Wiss L - Djax
Dirty House Crew - Dirt 08 A - Dirty House
808 State - Pacific - Tommy Boy
MP3s available on my web site (www.skooch.com) at:
http://www.skooch.com/sounds/WBAR061303.mp3
http://www.skooch.com/sounds/WBAR061303-2.mp3
Each is about 1 hour and 10 minutes long. The break in the MP3s is right about where the Aphawave track ends.
Eric




Re: (313) Kirk Deg

2003-06-16 Thread Michel Rijnders
Anbody got a tracklisting?

On Monday 16 June 2003 12:20, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote:
> Following the Kirk Deg. conversation on fri...I forgot which of you ppl
> where after the information about this release.
>
>
>
>
> "
> As One "So Far... So Good" (Ubiquity CD/LP)
>
> First in our "So Far . . . " series this time highlighting 12 years of Kirk
> Degiorgios work under the As One guise. Rare tracks, unreleased material,
> and classics from albums and singles on labels like Shield, art, New
> Electronica and Ubiquity.
> "
>
> Release Date : 17/6/ -- That tomorrow folks !!
>
>
> Rav

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RE: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music

2003-06-16 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost

And I thought Tom Jones was our saviour


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: maandag 16 juni 2003 15:52
> To: 313 List
> Subject: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music
> 
> 
> That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so 
> do you reckon he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?
> 
> 


(313) Puffy Safes Dance Music

2003-06-16 Thread Martin
That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so do you reckon
he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?



Re: (313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread alex . bond

OK,

further to my post about this earlier, I've since had a load of emails from
people who haven't  been able to post for months.

I can't reply to you all, there's loads of you!! sorry!

so I compiled the replies that people kindly sent and put them all on this
mail, so I hope this helps you all out...
Many thanks to all those people.

1.) anything sent in HTML format won't get posted - the list only likes
plain text mail. (I don't know if this applies to say little links on plain
text mails too)
2.) a few people have mentioned a couple of names. Just so neither of those
two names don't get bombarded, any chance one of those two (you know you
are!) could pop up and confirm/deny they are able to help?! I have a
feeling they do this as a favour to the list owner, and are both fairly
busy, so don't hassle 'em!
3.) the FAQ contains a few bits of good info (
http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ )
4.) the list is owned by a Mr George Smiley @ Hyperreal. I really don't
know if he can deal with this sort of stuff, but this is his mail (
[EMAIL PROTECTED] )
5.) the list doesn't like mails with swearing in
6.) the email address they are sending from is the same as the one they
subscribed from. this may be obvious but some people's email
clients/servers may have been configured differently.

I think that last point is pretty important, and one that people forget a
little maybe??

Anyway, Bye.

Alex

(feeling pleased with himself cos he managed to do something useful for
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Re: (313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
you most probably have your outgoing emails set to html instead of text.
you see, the list only accepts emails in text format. so when you send a
post it goes out as html and gets blocked, whereas if you answer a post,
being that its already in text format, it goes through.
to fix this you must set your outgoing emails to text format.


fab
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To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: (313) list admin/moderator


> I'm in that same boat.  I can reply to messages but not start one.  Any
> ideas?
> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:25 AM
> Subject: (313) list admin/moderator
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> > Hi,
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> > Does the list have an admin/moderator person?
> >
> > anyone know?
> >
> > I got a couple of mails lately from people who can't post to the list.
I'd
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> > They seem to be able to receive mail, but not post.
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> > can anyone help?
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Re: (313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread Kookie
I'm in that same boat.  I can reply to messages but not start one.  Any
ideas?
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:25 AM
Subject: (313) list admin/moderator


> Hi,
>
> Does the list have an admin/moderator person?
>
> anyone know?
>
> I got a couple of mails lately from people who can't post to the list. I'd
> like to help them, but don't have a clue how.
> They seem to be able to receive mail, but not post.
>
> can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
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(313) shake id...

2003-06-16 Thread Stuart Thomas
Anyone be able to tell me what the tune is around 30 mins into the shake mix
on d-i-r-t-y is??? It's the one after searchin'...

Cheers,

Stu.




Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread Rev. Jeffrey Paul
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, sean deason wrote:

> Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know
> how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works
> that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up...

Thank you for totally ruining my morning. :P

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Re: (313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread alex . bond

thanks for all the info folks...

Alex
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Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread sean deason
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there
to
>> provide the music.

> Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of
what
> you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom.
>
> Martin

WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew
this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were
staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper
porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to
manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that
crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up...

:^)
sean




(313) list admin/moderator

2003-06-16 Thread alex . bond
Hi,

Does the list have an admin/moderator person?

anyone know?

I got a couple of mails lately from people who can't post to the list. I'd
like to help them, but don't have a clue how.
They seem to be able to receive mail, but not post.

can anyone help?

Thanks,
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(313) Kirk Deg

2003-06-16 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
Following the Kirk Deg. conversation on fri...I forgot which of you ppl
where after the information about this release.




"
As One "So Far... So Good" (Ubiquity CD/LP)

First in our "So Far . . . " series this time highlighting 12 years of Kirk
Degiorgios work under the As One guise. Rare tracks, unreleased material,
and classics from albums and singles on labels like Shield, art, New
Electronica and Ubiquity.
"

Release Date : 17/6/ -- That tomorrow folks !!


Rav


Re: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread Martin
14/6/03 10:13 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> ::) wrote:
>> well you're there for the music, not to watch anyone do anything.
>> 
>> its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to
>> provide the music.

Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what
you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom.

Just to provide the music! You are there to entertain, to take the roof off,
to give people what they paid for - provide the music sounds so "jukebox"

Martin



RE: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Langsman, Marc

Or he likes ketamine ;)

> -Original Message-
> From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:51 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
> 
> 
> I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills 
> copied Richie Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label. 
> Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
> 
> I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as 
> described in the book Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics 
> a lot of words look better using the letter c instead of a k 
> substitution, with a few exceptions like band Kraftwerk 
> because the word is in German context and has symmetrical 
> properties. The label name KMS works well using the letter k 
> especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the 
> letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word.
> 
> 
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Re: (313) 23rd wave djing

2003-06-16 Thread Martin
Hey Brendan,

Must admit that I was on a bit of a wind up on Friday, just to see what
people would say, it was nothing personal - just shaking the tree a little.
The monkey analogy was not a good one to be honest but at least it got
people talking!

I've still to make my mind up about sets on Ableton to be honest with you,
some days I think it's cool and other days I think it's like turning up with
your set on CD (Which I've had happen to me once - he didn't get to play).
All down to how you use the tools as many here have said.
 
Please don't put words in my mouth tho, I didn't and never did say that you
have no DJ skills

Martin



> Like making music with synths and drum machines, really. While a monkey
> might make a vaguely passable track with a 909 and a Juno, its lack of
> skill at composition, layering and production will show through.
> 
> I know you are on a bit of a pisstake mission here, but you're basically
> saying that I have no DJ skills, which is a bit much isn't it?
> 
> Brendan
> 



RE: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:49 AM
|
| I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
| label?  :/

Well, I dunno, the M kinda provides a solid foundation while the space
characters to either side of it give the M room to breathe and provide
fundamental balance... ;)

Brendan



(313) Sonar sets online ?

2003-06-16 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but are there some of the sets from 
Sonar 2003 online ?
Gwendal


RE: (313) Waveless DJing

2003-06-16 Thread Ralf Gill




<< i dont see why the physical movement of
the artist is what makes you get into the music. it should be the
music that moves you>>

well you've obviously not been to see riverdance




 
   


Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"

2003-06-16 Thread Benn Glazier
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> What do you mean for no other reason?
> How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
> label.
> 
> > "The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
> > nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
> > substitution in a word."

I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to
the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the
label art or name was poorly executed.

I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool,
I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this
cat was on the level as he uses two "n's" in Moodymann.

I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a
hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio
records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
label?  :/


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Benn Glazier 
aka DJ Royal
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