Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What do you mean for no other reason? How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno label. The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word. I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the label art or name was poorly executed. I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool, I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann. I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a label? :/ -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net
RE: (313) Waveless DJing
i dont see why the physical movement of the artist is what makes you get into the music. it should be the music that moves you well you've obviously not been to see riverdance
(313) Sonar sets online ?
I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but are there some of the sets from Sonar 2003 online ? Gwendal
RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k
| -Original Message- | From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:49 AM | | I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a | label? :/ Well, I dunno, the M kinda provides a solid foundation while the space characters to either side of it give the M room to breathe and provide fundamental balance... ;) Brendan
Re: (313) 23rd wave djing
Hey Brendan, Must admit that I was on a bit of a wind up on Friday, just to see what people would say, it was nothing personal - just shaking the tree a little. The monkey analogy was not a good one to be honest but at least it got people talking! I've still to make my mind up about sets on Ableton to be honest with you, some days I think it's cool and other days I think it's like turning up with your set on CD (Which I've had happen to me once - he didn't get to play). All down to how you use the tools as many here have said. Please don't put words in my mouth tho, I didn't and never did say that you have no DJ skills Martin Like making music with synths and drum machines, really. While a monkey might make a vaguely passable track with a 909 and a Juno, its lack of skill at composition, layering and production will show through. I know you are on a bit of a pisstake mission here, but you're basically saying that I have no DJ skills, which is a bit much isn't it? Brendan
RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k
Or he likes ketamine ;) -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:51 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Richie Hawtin k I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied Richie Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label. Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records. I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using the letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band Kraftwerk because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties. The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
14/6/03 10:13 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::) wrote: well you're there for the music, not to watch anyone do anything. its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to provide the music. Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom. Just to provide the music! You are there to entertain, to take the roof off, to give people what they paid for - provide the music sounds so jukebox Martin
(313) Kirk Deg
Following the Kirk Deg. conversation on fri...I forgot which of you ppl where after the information about this release. As One So Far... So Good (Ubiquity CD/LP) First in our So Far . . . series this time highlighting 12 years of Kirk Degiorgios work under the As One guise. Rare tracks, unreleased material, and classics from albums and singles on labels like Shield, art, New Electronica and Ubiquity. Release Date : 17/6/ -- That tomorrow folks !! Rav
(313) list admin/moderator
Hi, Does the list have an admin/moderator person? anyone know? I got a couple of mails lately from people who can't post to the list. I'd like to help them, but don't have a clue how. They seem to be able to receive mail, but not post. can anyone help? Thanks, Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
- Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to provide the music. Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom. Martin WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up... :^) sean
Re: (313) list admin/moderator
thanks for all the info folks... Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, sean deason wrote: Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up... Thank you for totally ruining my morning. :P -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
(313) shake id...
Anyone be able to tell me what the tune is around 30 mins into the shake mix on d-i-r-t-y is??? It's the one after searchin'... Cheers, Stu.
Re: (313) list admin/moderator
I'm in that same boat. I can reply to messages but not start one. Any ideas? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:25 AM Subject: (313) list admin/moderator Hi, Does the list have an admin/moderator person? anyone know? I got a couple of mails lately from people who can't post to the list. I'd like to help them, but don't have a clue how. They seem to be able to receive mail, but not post. can anyone help? Thanks, Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) list admin/moderator
you most probably have your outgoing emails set to html instead of text. you see, the list only accepts emails in text format. so when you send a post it goes out as html and gets blocked, whereas if you answer a post, being that its already in text format, it goes through. to fix this you must set your outgoing emails to text format. fab - Original Message - From: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Re: (313) list admin/moderator I'm in that same boat. I can reply to messages but not start one. Any ideas? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:25 AM Subject: (313) list admin/moderator Hi, Does the list have an admin/moderator person? anyone know? I got a couple of mails lately from people who can't post to the list. I'd like to help them, but don't have a clue how. They seem to be able to receive mail, but not post. can anyone help? Thanks, Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) list admin/moderator
OK, further to my post about this earlier, I've since had a load of emails from people who haven't been able to post for months. I can't reply to you all, there's loads of you!! sorry! so I compiled the replies that people kindly sent and put them all on this mail, so I hope this helps you all out... Many thanks to all those people. 1.) anything sent in HTML format won't get posted - the list only likes plain text mail. (I don't know if this applies to say little links on plain text mails too) 2.) a few people have mentioned a couple of names. Just so neither of those two names don't get bombarded, any chance one of those two (you know you are!) could pop up and confirm/deny they are able to help?! I have a feeling they do this as a favour to the list owner, and are both fairly busy, so don't hassle 'em! 3.) the FAQ contains a few bits of good info ( http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ ) 4.) the list is owned by a Mr George Smiley @ Hyperreal. I really don't know if he can deal with this sort of stuff, but this is his mail ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) 5.) the list doesn't like mails with swearing in 6.) the email address they are sending from is the same as the one they subscribed from. this may be obvious but some people's email clients/servers may have been configured differently. I think that last point is pretty important, and one that people forget a little maybe?? Anyway, Bye. Alex (feeling pleased with himself cos he managed to do something useful for once...) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Puffy Safes Dance Music
That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so do you reckon he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?
RE: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music
And I thought Tom Jones was our saviour -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 16 juni 2003 15:52 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so do you reckon he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?
Re: (313) Kirk Deg
Anbody got a tracklisting? On Monday 16 June 2003 12:20, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: Following the Kirk Deg. conversation on fri...I forgot which of you ppl where after the information about this release. As One So Far... So Good (Ubiquity CD/LP) First in our So Far . . . series this time highlighting 12 years of Kirk Degiorgios work under the As One guise. Rare tracks, unreleased material, and classics from albums and singles on labels like Shield, art, New Electronica and Ubiquity. Release Date : 17/6/ -- That tomorrow folks !! Rav -- Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. Larry Wall
(313) WBAR 87.9 NYC - Playlist - 6-13-03
DJ Skooch (www.skooch.com) June 13, 2003 5300-8:00pm EST live stream www.wbar.org / 87.9 FM in New York Plastikman - Drp - Plus 8 Maurizio - M7 - Maurizio Laurent Garnier - Smart Move - F Comm Las Americas - Worship (Jetstream mix) - Definitive Eddie Flashin Fowlkes - Oh Lord - Azuli Distant Drums - Junk Funk (Acid Test Mix) - Out on a Limb Neil Landstrumm - Takks - Peacefrog DJ Sneak Armand Van Helden - Psychic Bounty Killaz and Part 2 - Hyper Hype / Armed Le Knight Club - Intergalactic Disko (Sneak Mix) - Crydamoure DJ ESP - Slo Mo - Definitive DJ ESP - I Like to Get Down - Communique Stickmen - Step Tap - Definitive Alpha Wave - 777 (Plastikman Remix) - Astralwerks C. Pen w/ JT Donaldson - Defunkt - Beat Non Stop Robotman - Do Da Doo (Plastikman Rmx) - Definitive Cantina - Mos Eisley Medley - Definitive Barada - Fusebox - Definitive Dwarf - Percussion Electrique - Accelerate DBX - Losing Control - Accelerate Chito's Revenge (D. Alvarado) - Lagrimas - Bomb Nitzer Ebb - Let Your Body Learn - Geffen DJ ESP - Lost in the Desert - Bush Blunted Boy Wonder - Circuit Sex - Novamute Bryan Zentz - Medicine Drum - Tronic Plastikman - Spastik - Plus 8 Neil Landstrumm - Sniff Destroy - Peacefrog Clark - Jak to Basics - Planet E DJ Hell - Motherfunk - Disko B DJ Skull - Acid Wiss L - Djax Dirty House Crew - Dirt 08 A - Dirty House 808 State - Pacific - Tommy Boy MP3s available on my web site (www.skooch.com) at: http://www.skooch.com/sounds/WBAR061303.mp3 http://www.skooch.com/sounds/WBAR061303-2.mp3 Each is about 1 hour and 10 minutes long. The break in the MP3s is right about where the Aphawave track ends. Eric
Re: (313) Kirk Deg
http://www.juno.co.uk has tracklistings... At 15:50 16/06/2003 +0200, Michel Rijnders wrote: Anbody got a tracklisting? On Monday 16 June 2003 12:20, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: Following the Kirk Deg. conversation on fri...I forgot which of you ppl where after the information about this release. As One So Far... So Good (Ubiquity CD/LP) First in our So Far . . . series this time highlighting 12 years of Kirk Degiorgios work under the As One guise. Rare tracks, unreleased material, and classics from albums and singles on labels like Shield, art, New Electronica and Ubiquity. Release Date : 17/6/ -- That tomorrow folks !! Rav -- Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. Larry Wall
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
Wow you just discovered an incredible new way to market classical music!!! dave MEK wrote: that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much no? MEK
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. I was doing this WAY before it was cool. jeff
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
its not like watching someone put a record on a turntable and then play with the pitch until it plays at the same tempo as the other record is the epitome of excitement (theo parrish and titonton are exactly, it's NOT. i never realized how much the actual turning of the head, moving of the arms, looking around etc, actually mattered, until i had witnessed performance after performance of people staring straight ahead immobile, doing things? i'm not sure. that a DJ does pull their eyes up off of the decks is important in the communication between his/her audience and themsleves. I know there are a lot of DJs who never look around or seem to acknowledge the dancefloor but, personally, if a DJ looks up from the decks to see how people are reacting and maybe in turn cracks a smile or in some way acknowledges the audience - bang, there is suddenly two way communication going on. For me, that is the essence of what music is all about. A nightclub or party should be a communion (and I don't mean the Christian definition of it - although it could lead to a quasi-religious experience). MEK
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd 06/16/03 10:25 AM re-post) Wow you just discovered an incredible new way to market classical music!!! dave MEK wrote: that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much no? MEK
Re: (313) list admin/moderator
Hahaha! Mr Bond does technical support! What has the world come to?
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) jeff
Re: (313) list admin/moderator
aha, the mysterious 1-11 returns! Hahaha! Mr Bond does technical support! they obviously don't know me mate I still can't work this f**king toaster with a micro-chip in. Alex (tries his best, but, sheesh, I dunno...) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
Ah but I'm putting a twist on it- i'm call this Nü Romantiks MEK The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org omcast.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd 06/16/03 12:04 PM re-post) wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) jeff
Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
FASCIST Ah but I'm putting a twist on it- i'm call this Nü Romantiks MEK The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org omcast.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd 06/16/03 12:04 PM re-post) wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) jeff
Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
On 6/16/03 1:04 PM, The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) Let's not dis the New Romantics, now. How else would we have gotten Frequency 7? Back on topic, -- im
Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) Let's not dis the New Romantics, now. How else would we have gotten Frequency 7? Or Atom and the Ants :-) jeff (Dirk isn't the only one wearing white sox)
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
label design and music are equally important. Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even though it doesn't look right. --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What do you mean for no other reason? How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno label. The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word. I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the label art or name was poorly executed. I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool, I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann. I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a label? :/ -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net =
Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
I think you're confusing Adam and the Ants with Atom Ant. Atom Ant was a kids cartoon come to think of it so was Adam and the Ants ;) MEK The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] omcast.net cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post) 06/16/03 12:52 PM Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) Let's not dis the New Romantics, now. How else would we have gotten Frequency 7? Or Atom and the Ants :-) jeff (Dirk isn't the only one wearing white sox)
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 09:54 AM, spw wrote: label design and music are equally important. wow.
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
I love that one record label called white label - they have all sorts of music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on any of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, although sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says promo - whatever the hell that means anyone know where I can find a discog for them? MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k 06/16/03 11:54 AM label design and music are equally important. Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even though it doesn't look right. --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What do you mean for no other reason? How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno label. The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word. I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the label art or name was poorly executed. I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool, I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann. I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a label? :/ -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net =
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
whoever they are, it bugs me that they constantly use those cheap paper sleeves. you'd think that if they are saving so much $ on design they could at least cough it up for some real cardboard. On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love that one record label called white label - they have all sorts of music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on any of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, although sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says promo - whatever the hell that means anyone know where I can find a discog for them? MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k 06/16/03 11:54 AM label design and music are equally important. Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even though it doesn't look right. --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What do you mean for no other reason? How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno label. The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word. I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the label art or name was poorly executed. I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool, I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann. I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a label? :/ -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net =
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
-- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
Gosh Martin, those DUST events must be pretty good then eh? ;) sean you dirty birdie, after reading your post I have visions of DJ peep booths - lol! lisa sean deason wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to provide the music. Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom. Martin WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up... :^) sean
RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k
Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for me. More, please. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k -- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb! U CANT TOUCH DIS :-p On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love that one record label called white label - they have all sorts of music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on any of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, although sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says promo - whatever the hell that means anyone know where I can find a discog for them? MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k 06/16/03 11:54 AM label design and music are equally important. Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even though it doesn't look right. --- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What do you mean for no other reason? How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno label. The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word. I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the label art or name was poorly executed. I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool, I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann. I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a label? :/ -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net =
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
yea that was a good one...the white label thing was pretty good as well. michael www.renegaderhythms.com Rob Theakston wrote: Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for me. More, please. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k -- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com
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j man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb! j U CANT TOUCH DIS Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop* *hammer time
Re: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music
What I find hilarious is EVERYONE is working on it. Deep Dish, Richard X, Morillo, Felix Da Housecat. It's like a hip-hop album stashed with cameos. I hear Let's Get Ill sounds very like Joey Beltram, which can't be a bad thing. I interviewed Ali from Deep Dish the other nite and he was saying that Puff used to hang out at Paradise Garage, so I guess he has the credentials now... ;) Maybe it's me but those first two Puff albums still sound tight to me five years on... I think it's something that will take off everywhere but the US. It could be Puffy's UNKLE. ;) -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:51 PM That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so do you reckon he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?
RE: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k
Okay if this thread is going to stop, let me just say that after a lengthy discussion, Andy Kellman and I have decided that we're going to re-write Techno Rebels. Dan, we like your content and the direction you were going...but the graphic design on the front could be a lot better and you need to have more on the importance of happy hardcore in the Detroit community. So look for Techno Rebels 2.0 : Electric Boogaloo (complete with weighted, balanced fonts for aesthetic importance!) at a Barnes and Noble near you some time in 2005. Right now the cover shot is going to be Dale Lawrence naked, riding a mule and strumming a guitar. And thanks Dan, for without you we couldn't have reworked the history of Detroit techno. Rok -Original Message- From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:41 PM To: jake Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k j man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb! j U CANT TOUCH DIS Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop* *hammer time
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
this thread is oddly relevant to two different aspects of my friday night. my bud Jack Buser was doing a live set in a backroom at the big club here in SF- 1015, and he just gets into it. One of our mutual friends commented that it was like watching a puppetshow cuz he was bopping around and just rockin out like that. Lets put it this way- remember the party you were at when you were dancing up a storm more than any other time cuz you were just that into it? well if a waveless DJ is that excited to be playing their own music for a crowd, which is pretty reasonable, why shouldn't they go bonkers? and if there's parts of the crowd that vibe off that energy? well, great. thats a great side effect at least, I guess as long as its not just theatrical fluff thats a put on. contrasting this, there was another side room where the DJ was playing electroclash. ZERO skills tho- she wasn't even bothering to mix the records. songs would literaly end and be silent and then she'd let the next one start up. Sounds retarded right? well, oh I should mention that she was topless, just wearing some lingerie and letting her big fake tits hang out for the crowd of dudes to gape at the whole time. During parts of some songs she'd get great cheers by rubbing her breats like a stripper (which I'm pretty sure she is). anyway, I'm sure some of that audience took something home with them that night! -- Original Message -- From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:07:57 -0400 Gosh Martin, those DUST events must be pretty good then eh? ;) sean you dirty birdie, after reading your post I have visions of DJ peep booths - lol! lisa sean deason wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to provide the music. Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom. Martin WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up... :^) sean Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
Ha! Didn't think this would balloon like this right before I left the country for two days... I'll try and hit on some of this. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i definitely disagree. when i play records, i bring a variety of sounds. if one thing in particular is making people react, then i run with it. i remember one gig i started out by playing some carl craig, dan bell, and recloose records. people really werent feeling it too much so i moved into more broken beat territory, then when i started dropping the ragga influenced broken beat and 2-step, heads went wild. so i kept playing that kind of stuff. had i rocked strictly the 313 style techno, the reaction and satisfaction with my set would have dropped a ton. By all means I think this is *one* great way to do it. However I don't think it's the only way, and if I hope a set like Brendan's @ Cannonball changes perceptions, I hope it's that it will reveal to people that there are other ways, not that it is a better one. The reason why I think it's more about the assembled crowd than the DJ's reactivity is for the same reasons you like to react. I know what you explained above isn't the only way you'd do it, but it sounds like a sort of trial and error thing until the crowd responds well, and then you run with that. Conversely, I (sometimes) like to stay one or two steps ahead of the crowd. If they react well to house, I'll move into techno. If they reject the broken beat, I'll play some house and come back to it in a new context. If I feel like playing house all damn night, then I'll find a way to make it work - or it'll fail and I will have f*cked up everyone's night because they don't like good house music. ;) Point being I feel like I can take more musical risks if I limit my choices, and in my experience performing like this (some of the time), the crowd reaction has been as good if not better, assuming there was an open-minded crowd in attendance. Anyway... I never claimed there wasn't value in reacting to a crowd, but I think there's other ways to win a crowd over, and I think my favorite performances are the ones where the DJ will push me where (s)he wants to take me, rather than a DJ who allows the crowd to make decisions for him/her (yep, I know that's a twisting of your words). :) So it's a gamble. Sometimes the crowd just won't come along. I think that's precisely the challenge. I think this is less an issue of planned vs. unplanned sets, and more an issue of the DJ stepping up to be the director rather than the reactor. A big part of this is being a good performer, and I think that planned and unplanned sets can be equally good performances because... From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) Waveless DJing But check this out. Back in the day there was a DJ in detroit named Ray Berry. Jeff Mills and Berry were the first tricksters I saw. Berry had this thing where he would scratch with his mouth...then with his shoe. And Mills was (in his hiphop days) quicksilver personified...which is a trick in and of itself. The first few times I saw them, I was blown away. Now? I'm nonplussed. Just give me the MUSIC. DJs to me should blend into the woodwork. Granted, I got extra excited when I saw THeo getting into the groove...but that wasn't because of his tricks, but because of his enthusiasm. I'm pretty sure enthusiasm is portable, regardless of the medium. This is precisely it. A DJ can do more to move a crowd by being a part of it. I'm not trying to say you need to get spastic and flail all over (although it can be fun), but this sort of stuff really helps bridge the gap between performer and audience. I think this is the best way to involve the crowd, rather than waiting for the crowd to say what they like. Yeah - I know I'm sticking words in your guys' mouths, but allow me some latitude to abuse rhetoric while making a controversial point. If I can persuade the crowd that I know what I'm doing, and they are open minded, then the best dancefloor experience will be their tacit approval of everything I try. I don't mean they'll like everything, but if I have their faith from the beginning and they let me move them, it will be the best for all involved. When I go to see a DJ, I want them to show me what they got. All of it, not just what made a good first impression. It's riskier but the reward is greater. I was going to say that this enthusiasm needn't be spontaneous. I can get off playing a mostly planned set for a crowd that likes it. Again, I need to clarify that this is absolutely not how I always do things, but I do like to have a good idea of what's getting played, and often the best set will involve some planned direction, even if only for maybe the first 1/2-hour, or the first ten songs - whatever. My main point is
Re: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k
dammit Dale! how many do I have to tell you!?? Stay the hell away from my mule!!! sean p.s. and dont give me that but we're in love crap again either! - Original Message - From: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k Okay if this thread is going to stop, let me just say that after a lengthy discussion, Andy Kellman and I have decided that we're going to re-write Techno Rebels. Dan, we like your content and the direction you were going...but the graphic design on the front could be a lot better and you need to have more on the importance of happy hardcore in the Detroit community. So look for Techno Rebels 2.0 : Electric Boogaloo (complete with weighted, balanced fonts for aesthetic importance!) at a Barnes and Noble near you some time in 2005. Right now the cover shot is going to be Dale Lawrence naked, riding a mule and strumming a guitar. And thanks Dan, for without you we couldn't have reworked the history of Detroit techno. Rok -Original Message- From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:41 PM To: jake Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k j man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb! j U CANT TOUCH DIS Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop* *hammer time
(313) New Mix Available at threeonethree.com.
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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
OK, hot shot designers. Here's a contest. Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way. In other words $0.00 telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @ tronictreatment.com w/Stewart Walker -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for me. More, please. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k -- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com
(313) RND
haye ! anyone know of any rednose district audio online ? thanx p
