RE: (313) New Mix Available at threeonethree.com.
Keith has several releases, (five, I think) across a couple of different labels. The one you refer to on Ferris Park (along with one other, I believe); and I'm pretty sure he has two on Omegaman's Out of the Box label. As for the others, I'm not exactly certain. To answer your question, though: no, in my opinion his other work is not similar-sounding-- his style isn't pegged to just 'that one thing.' Matthew -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:52 PM To: Matthew Mangold; 313 Subject: RE: (313) New Mix Available at threeonethree.com. 09. keith kemp keith drilling oil ferris park man I love this track, has Keith Kemp done other similar-sounding stuff anyone can recommend? Cheers, Matt
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? I am NOT buying Mixmag again. May start my own mag. ;) -- From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 7:54 AM I still enjoy: Jockey Slut, Urb, and Vibe - Muzik has its moments. Apparently Muzik just closed its doors (pages?) for the last time. TOM (Apologies if someone already posted this, I'm out of touch with the list.) -- From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 7 Magazine Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 7:22 PM as far as I know it's re-started as Update ? - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: (313) 7 Magazine Is this magazine still in print? Where does it originate from? Any online links to them? Looks like it is/was a great magazine. Michael.Elliot-Knight Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. I think he had to sell 7 last year - although he's still involved - as sales weren't as good as hoped. I believe it's still being published. I've never read a copy - although I read the item on Octave One, online. k
(313) FW: no NYC LED
-- From: FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:03:43 -0400 To: NYC Subject: no NYC LED Due to my lack of interest AND financial restrictions, I will not be appearing @ the following : Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @ http://tronictreatment.com w/Stewart Walker telepathic regards, fRED Don't trust the DJ + Learn to PAY the Live PA -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW E-ADDRESS
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
according to a friend of mine who used to work there (she left them several years ago), she said they were losing advertisers at a really detrimental rate and purchases of the magazine have dropped off immensely - is there a crisis in clubland?! what's interesting is that I've noticed XLR8R turning a bit more toward experimental rock and post rock. i do think that as the general population of people who have been growing up with electronic music and as the music matures there is less desire to break everything down into microcosms. Muzik, Mixmag, DJ and such have been all about the party and not as much about the music - and I mean party in the worst way. Seems like all the music is coming back together again - techno being played next to funk being played next to experimental rock next to old pop tunes - something's brewing. MEK Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org il.com.au cc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) 07/02/03 06:38 PM Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? I am NOT buying Mixmag again. May start my own mag. ;) -- From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 7:54 AM I still enjoy: Jockey Slut, Urb, and Vibe - Muzik has its moments. Apparently Muzik just closed its doors (pages?) for the last time. TOM (Apologies if someone already posted this, I'm out of touch with the list.) -- From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 7 Magazine Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 7:22 PM as far as I know it's re-started as Update ? - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: (313) 7 Magazine Is this magazine still in print? Where does it originate from? Any online links to them? Looks like it is/was a great magazine. Michael.Elliot-Knight Can't see the answer to this, sorry if I'm repeating. 7 is a sort of weekly UK Mixmag - the same guy who had the orginal idea for Mixmag (before it was sold to EMAP) started 7. I think he had to sell 7 last year - although he's still involved - as sales weren't as good as hoped. I believe it's still being published. I've never read a copy - although I read the item on Octave One, online. k
Re: (313) Was (Not Was)--listen like thieves
talking of was not was. i have 'listen like thieves' by was not was on a
bootleg ('underground house dance classics'. on the a side it has the black
dog (re-edit) of virtual. on the b side it has the poets 'emotion' and
listen like thieves)
it's a beautiful piece of deep house, one of my favourites.
is this a remix?
everytime i come across a legit copy of listen like thieves it doesn't sound
anything like the copy i have. que?
james
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin mix of LA Synthesis
- Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: (313) Kenny Larkin mix of LA Synthesis I seem to remember one or two people on the list a while back saying they were after a copy of Kenny's mix of Agraphobia on Plink Plonk - well, I've currently got a spare copy listed on the world's favourite auction site. My seller ID is tomc211 - there's only 12 hours left but no bids yet... YOUR SPAM WILL NOT BE EXCUSED!!! ;) That was Max, and he gots two. Then he decended into a blinding rage and melted each in a mess of eternal bleeding. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
a friend sent me this (quote source was from a club in Nottingham) Although Ulrich has released a considerable amount of tracks under a host of names and for a host of labels (some of them would really surprise you..if only, you knew!) anyone know other names he has recorded under? thanks - lisa
Re: (313) Ongaku 002 - Daniel Pommer - Genetic Waste
Yes, I own it as well as the double 10 remix pack on Delirium Red from '95 and no I will never part with either one. - Original Message - From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:37:06 +0100 To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Ongaku 002 - Daniel Pommer - Genetic Waste Has anyone got this EP? -- Ryan Snowden Warthog Games UK Tel: +44 (0) 161 491 5131 Fax: +44 (0) 161 610 3033 www.warthog.co.uk -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom
(313) Good girls
Hi, some french people have bootleged a record with good girls and stevie knows on it (with also 2 others d.may hot tracks on it) According to the man who sold it to me (for 35 $), juan and derrick (whom this record was given to) have said that the sound is better than the original. Anyone heard of it ? mat -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr
Re: (313) Ongaku 002 - Daniel Pommer - Genetic Waste
Ryan Snowden wrote on Wed, 2 Jul 2003 about following: Has anyone got this EP? yeah i have it. dark hardcore on the other side, dark ambient on the other. no, i'm not selling it. sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect.
RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
a friend sent me this (quote source was from a club in Nottingham) Although Ulrich has released a considerable amount of tracks under a host of names and for a host of labels (some of them would really surprise you..if only, you knew!) anyone know other names he has recorded under? thanks - lisa Yeah I'm intrigued to know more now too! What I know about him is (IINM) that he was a sort of 'in-house' engineer for Moving Shadow records - a uk drum bass label, pretty underground. Music journalist Andy Kellman mentions two other projects, (never heard of 'em myself): Hexaquart (minimal techno-house) and Ethereal 77 (drum'n'bass). k -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:21 AM To: (313) Subject: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name? a friend sent me this (quote source was from a club in Nottingham) Although Ulrich has released a considerable amount of tracks under a host of names and for a host of labels (some of them would really surprise you..if only, you knew!) anyone know other names he has recorded under? thanks - lisa
RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
What I know about him is (IINM) that he was a sort of 'in-house' engineer for Moving Shadow records - a uk drum bass label, pretty underground. strange given the nature of the beats on the stuff i've heard robin...
RE: (313) Ongaku 002 - Daniel Pommer - Genetic Waste
Speaking of daniel pommer http://www.ju-leipzig.de/vorstand/daniel.htm Ahah (itsnothimiknow) |-Original Message- |From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 09:52 |To: Ryan Snowden |Cc: '313' |Subject: Re: (313) Ongaku 002 - Daniel Pommer - Genetic Waste | | |Ryan Snowden wrote on Wed, 2 Jul 2003 about following: | | Has anyone got this EP? | |yeah i have it. dark hardcore on the other side, dark ambient on the |other. no, i'm not selling it. | | |sakke |-- |Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. |
RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
What I know about him is (IINM) that he was a sort of 'in-house' engineer for Moving Shadow records - a uk drum bass label, pretty underground. k strange given the nature of the beats on the stuff i've heard robin... Yeah - although apparently he has dabbled in drum bass. Is there some suggestion of past musical lives, he's wanting to downplay? I do note a few releases on a compilation released by uk-based Transient. I believe that it's a 'trance' label! Yes that type of trance! But all this is still pretty tentative. I would not make the connection readily at all. If anyone still wonders what the fuss is abt, check this comment fr Discogs abt Schnauss's music, which i thk sums it up nicely: There is a word in Dutch that perfectly describes this music: liefelijk, which could be translated into: lovely, charming, sweet. But the Dutch word also carries the connotation of something very innocent and tender. Children playing on a sunny day in a field full of poppies for example. Or falling in love. Those rare moments in life that contrast with the violence, pain and lack of understanding, and that make us say Wow! Life is f*g beautiful! k -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name? What I know about him is (IINM) that he was a sort of 'in-house' engineer for Moving Shadow records - a uk drum bass label, pretty underground. strange given the nature of the beats on the stuff i've heard robin...
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
What I know about him is (IINM) that he was a sort of 'in-house' engineer for Moving Shadow records - a uk drum bass label, pretty underground. Really? I'm not sure I believe this - Rob Playford was Moving Shadow's in-house engineer, and I though Ulrich had always been based in Germany. I'd be very surprised if he worked for Moving Shadow. There are plenty of interviews with him on the net, and none of them mention this... Music journalist Andy Kellman mentions two other projects, (never heard of 'em myself): Hexaquart (minimal techno-house) and Ethereal 77 (drum'n'bass). Yeah, this is backed up in this interview: http://www.barcodezine.com/Ulrich%20Schnauss%20Interview.html Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
This comes from a Jockey Slut issue as I say, IINM. It would be I guess 2002 sometime. Summer/Autumn? Believe it would be the first mention of Schnauss in JS. -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:24 AM To: Odeluga, Ken; lisa; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name? What I know about him is (IINM) that he was a sort of 'in-house' engineer for Moving Shadow records - a uk drum bass label, pretty underground. Really? I'm not sure I believe this - Rob Playford was Moving Shadow's in-house engineer, and I though Ulrich had always been based in Germany. I'd be very surprised if he worked for Moving Shadow. There are plenty of interviews with him on the net, and none of them mention this... Music journalist Andy Kellman mentions two other projects, (never heard of 'em myself): Hexaquart (minimal techno-house) and Ethereal 77 (drum'n'bass). Yeah, this is backed up in this interview: http://www.barcodezine.com/Ulrich%20Schnauss%20Interview.html Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
-Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:44 AM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom Most 'dance' music mags are just crap and people who are subbed to lists like this realize you just don't need 'em! k
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
He's right I cant remember the last time or even the first time I bought a music magazine. Today all I read is Cigar Aficionado :) mmmcigarporn |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 11:38 |To: Tom Churchill; Cyclone Wehner; 313 |Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) | | |-Original Message- |From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:44 AM |To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 |Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) | | | Yeah, that's a surprise. | Wonder why? | What's the talk? | |Full story: | |http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,98833 |4,00.html | |Cheers, | |Tom | |Most 'dance' music mags are just crap and people who are |subbed to lists like this realize you just don't need 'em! | |k |
(313) http://www.planet-e.net/
Quite funny - especailly the bit about Pete Townsend! (Sorry to all the swots who've been there already) k
(313) record shop buyers
Hi. Any record shop buyers on the list?? UK and/or abroad is good. Got a quick Q, if anyone can spare me 2 mins. Thanks, Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
i hear carl craig is gonna be playing in leeds sometime soon (25th july??), anyone have any details?? cheers robin...
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5703 -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:55 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? i hear carl craig is gonna be playing in leeds sometime soon (25th july??), anyone have any details?? cheers robin... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
aha, i shoulda guessed it'd be the superconductor folks, people with taste! r http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5703
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) Robin. What's the verdict? Cheers, Ken -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5703 -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:55 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? i hear carl craig is gonna be playing in leeds sometime soon (25th july??), anyone have any details?? cheers robin... ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
Is the swine coming to manchester? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 14:01 |To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | |I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) |Robin. What's the verdict? | |Cheers, | |Ken | |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:56 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | |http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5703 | |-Original Message- |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:55 PM |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | |i hear carl craig is gonna be playing in leeds sometime soon (25th |july??), anyone have any details?? | |cheers | |robin... | |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not |necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation |unless specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for |the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## | | |
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) Robin. What's the verdict? i'm ashamed to admit it but i don't know (i hear good things tho)... [EMAIL PROTECTED] might pipe up now? or dan moore? robin...
(313) Recloose in London
13th July, Cargo http://www.cargo-london.com/main.php # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Recloose in London
13th July, Cargo http://www.cargo-london.com/main.php the day after manchester (see http://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra for details) robin...
Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
Ok Carl Craig haters, what's the deal? How many babies has he murdered or daughters has he deflowered? (Or did he just ignore yout intoxicated witterings or bizarre requests at a gig once) ... k - Original Message - From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? Is the swine coming to manchester? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 14:01 |To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | |I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) |Robin. What's the verdict? | |Cheers, | |Ken | |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:56 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | |http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5703 | |-Original Message- |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:55 PM |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | |i hear carl craig is gonna be playing in leeds sometime soon (25th |july??), anyone have any details?? | |cheers | |robin... | |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not |necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation |unless specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for |the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## | | |
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
I call everyone swines - don't look too much into it The question stands, is he stepping over? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 14:08 |To: Ryan Snowden; Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | |Ok Carl Craig haters, what's the deal? How many babies has he |murdered or daughters has he deflowered? (Or did he just |ignore yout intoxicated witterings or bizarre requests at a |gig once) ... | |k |- Original Message - |From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert |Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; |313@hyperreal.org |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:58 PM |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | Is the swine coming to manchester? | | |-Original Message- | |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Sent: 03 July 2003 14:01 | |To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org | |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | | |I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) Robin. | |What's the verdict? | | | |Cheers, | | | |Ken | | | |-Original Message- | |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:56 PM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org | |Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | | |http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5703 | | | |-Original Message- | |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:55 PM | |To: 313@hyperreal.org | |Subject: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | | | | | | |i hear carl craig is gonna be playing in leeds sometime soon (25th | |july??), anyone have any details?? | | | |cheers | | | |robin... | | | |### | |## | |Note: | | | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not | |necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation | |unless specifically stated. This email and any files |transmitted are | |confidential and intended solely for the use of the | |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have | |received this email in | |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | |Thank You. | |### | |## | | | | | | | |
(313) mp3 recommendation of the week!
Curse's new release on the Thinner netlabel is just beautiful! http://www.thinnerism.com/releases.php?r=thn034 Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com
Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
Is the swine coming to manchester? was anyone at Sankeys that time when he got the hump and smashed a record against the wall? these girls I used to know put it up on their office wall with a plaque as smashed up by Carl Craig I thought it was good anyway. last time I saw him in Manc he was ace. He played Queen and ZZ Top (honestly). Top man. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
Derrek may did the same thing once. He ordered the promoter to get a bunch of girls to sit on the couch behind him while he played, and the next thing we know he's throwing records on the floor with all his force. It was a 5h1t gig too, the swine :) |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 14:20 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | Is the swine coming to manchester? | |was anyone at Sankeys that time when he got the hump and |smashed a record against the wall? | |these girls I used to know put it up on their office wall with |a plaque as smashed up by Carl Craig | |I thought it was good anyway. | |last time I saw him in Manc he was ace. He played Queen and ZZ |Top (honestly). Top man. |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
Is the swine coming to manchester? was anyone at Sankeys that time when he got the hump and smashed a record against the wall? no, i was there when derrick did the same tho :) was there a reason for that? i don't remember hmmm so carl craig has played therearen't people tied in by contract to only play at sankey's/tribal sessions when in manchester?(i know, i know this isn't fair on other nites) CC has played at electric chair...i guess he must be excempt robin...
Re: (313) mp3 recommendation of the week!
Hey Christian, Agreed this a nice release, thn033 is also really nice 'Digitalverein - Internal Course'. I can't commend the thinner guys enough, I really do think it's some of the best music about at the moment :) btw, thn034 - track 7 is nice ;) Christian Bloch wrote: Curse's new release on the Thinner netlabel is just beautiful! http://www.thinnerism.com/releases.php?r=thn034 Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com -- Mike
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
I was in an email battle with sankeys saying how cr ap their line up was week after week and that they should be concentrating on better more underground nights. Needless to say they've barred me from the club and let rip snide remarks along the lines of 'only we know what the punters want to hear'. I thought it was all a bit lame really. :-) Some promoters have the exclusive rights for people/labels in parts of a country, it's true. The final word is the record label/dj though. Bad for independent promoters. |-Original Message- |From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 03 July 2003 14:32 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? | | | | Is the swine coming to manchester? | | was anyone at Sankeys that time when he got the hump and smashed a | record against the wall? | |no, i was there when derrick did the same tho :) | |was there a reason for that? i don't remember | |hmmm so carl craig has played therearen't people tied in |by contract to only play at sankey's/tribal sessions when in |manchester?(i know, i know this isn't fair on other nites) CC |has played at electric chair...i guess he must be excempt | |robin... |
Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
aye, wicked venue, 3 levels. good beer served till 4am and beyond on a good night. heated + partly covered beer garden with music pumped out from the main room. good soundsystem. cheap entry good beer served till 4am and beyond on a good night. bit of bugger it being on a friday though with me having to open up saturdays at 10am. those thinking of going mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for membership and they should be able to sort you paying list entry. advisable as it's gonna be rammed and the club only holds aobut 400 people don't forget the bar's open till 4am. and there's rumours of a post club, club opening at 4am after carl craig tbc... - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) Robin. What's the verdict? i'm ashamed to admit it but i don't know (i hear good things tho)... [EMAIL PROTECTED] might pipe up now? or dan moore? robin...
RE: (313) Good girls
some french people have bootleged a record with good girls and stevie knows on it (with also 2 others d.may hot tracks on it) that sucks for the artists if the originals are still in print... what were the other tracks? And didn't Designer Music vol. 1 get re-issued awhile back anyway? OR am I crazy but I thought it did. Like there's that bootleg of detroit classics I saw in the shop, and I thought most or all of those tracks are still very much in print on transmat, metroplex, etc. I don't understand why someone would buy it given you could get the official 12 for $6 or so, better mastering, supporting the original label, etc. Strangely enough Dept. -- There's also a bootleg of that cover terrible version of Knights of The Jaguar floating around with 3 other random tracks on it (one of them by James Brown). Why the hell anyone would want the Sony version of Jaguar baffles me, on a crappy bootleg no less. I forgot the name of the boot, it's something like About Time vol. 2 or something like that. Full disclosure: I'm not POSITIVE it was the Sony version, but it sure as hell wasn't the Rolando version on UR, it was terrible. But it was definitely trying to recreate the exact song with different-yet-similar percussion, synths and melodies. According to the man who sold it to me (for 35 $), juan and derrick (whom this record was given to) have said that the sound is better than the original. Of course a salesman is going to tell you whatever he has to get you to buy a bootleg for $35... I would tend to doubt it... the artists are going to have the masters afterall, not the bootlegger. :P But I guess anyone can cut a record louder if that's what you mean. Cheers, Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) Good girls
There's also a bootleg of that cover terrible version of Knights of The Jaguar floating around with 3 other random tracks on it (one of them by James Brown). Why the hell anyone would want the Sony version of Jaguar baffles me, on a crappy bootleg no less. I forgot the name of the boot, it's something like About Time vol. 2 or something like that. Full disclosure: I'm not POSITIVE it was the Sony version, but it sure as hell wasn't the Rolando version on UR, it was terrible. But it was definitely trying to recreate the exact song with different-yet-similar percussion, synths and melodies. Speaking of Jaguar, has anyone else heard the Beige GT version of Jaguar on Ladomat? Truly bizarre - it's kind of prog (rock, not house), with guitars playing the melody, System 7 style. When I heard it I was slightly the worse for wear at a party but I loved it. Haven't heard it since though. At same party I heard an Akufen remix of Craig David which sounded amazing - does anyone know anything about this one too? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) detroit beatdown vol 1
i know im a little late, but i need to find this on vinyl. anyone know where one is laying around? tom andythepooh.com
(313) recent 3 chairs record
i cant find this either. WTF? anyone got any ideas where i can find it? anyone know what US distributors picked this or that detroit beatdown up? tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
In contrast, rock titles, such as New Musical Express and Kerrang!, and magazines aimed at older music fans, such as Mojo and Uncut, have enjoyed circulation increases. I think there is your answer. The clubbers are growing up and are getting tired of the same old dance music - or at least the way it's presented. I wonder how XLR8R, URB, and other US mags are doing? There still seems to be a lot of kids still learning and listening to dance music in the US as opposed to the UK? correct me if I'm wrong please. MEK Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cyclone Wehner rdings.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/03/03 02:43 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom
Re: (313) detroit beatdown vol 1
i know im a little late, but i need to find this on vinyl. anyone know where one is laying around? Baked Goods did the UK distribution for this label, so a possibility you might find it here... www.boomkat.com if not, I think I saw a copy in www.piccadillyrecords.com very recently or speak to Duncan here - www.vinylexchange.co.uk - they have a used copy. sorry if you're abroad... Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:15 PM To: Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) In contrast, rock titles, such as New Musical Express and Kerrang!, and magazines aimed at older music fans, such as Mojo and Uncut, have enjoyed circulation increases. I think there is your answer. The clubbers are growing up and are getting tired of the same old dance music - or at least the way it's presented. I wonder how XLR8R, URB, and other US mags are doing? There still seems to be a lot of kids still learning and listening to dance music in the US as opposed to the UK? correct me if I'm wrong please. MEK Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cyclone Wehner rdings.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/03/03 02:43 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Re: Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
Music journalist Andy Kellman mentions two other projects, (never heard of 'em myself): Hexaquart (minimal techno-house) and Ethereal 77 (drum'n'bass). There's a Junkie Sartre Hexaquart release on Force Tracks, and a track from it appears on the FT Hypercity mix cd. Never knew it was Schnauss though, must give it another listen. Glenn
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
Hey all, I just joined the list recently (this is my first post) and am really glad to be on it! Its super active and everyone is really enthusiastic - feels like a good community - nice to see. I have to say that I purchase Xlr8r and Grooves, sometimes Urb and I'm not a super young clubber anymore. I also have a number of friends my age who buy them on a regular basis. We're all Canadians - don't know if that makes a difference! So there is definitely still a market out there for those mags with those of us who have been in the scene for awhile, plus I'm making the music not only dancing to it. So, I find them good for gear news, updates on cool stuff coming out in design etc. Whereas Mojo and Uncut I don't really bother with - go figure - I guess I'm the market anomaly! Anyway, glad to finally post :) Berg -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 3, 2003 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:15 PM To: Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) In contrast, rock titles, such as New Musical Express and Kerrang!, and magazines aimed at older music fans, such as Mojo and Uncut, have enjoyed circulation increases. I think there is your answer. The clubbers are growing up and are getting tired of the same old dance music - or at least the way it's presented. I wonder how XLR8R, URB, and other US mags are doing? There still seems to be a lot of kids still learning and listening to dance music in the US as opposed to the UK? correct me if I'm wrong please. MEK Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cyclone Wehner rdings.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/03/03 02:43 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
I think this was meant for the list! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:30 PM To: Robert Taylor Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) that's true - does anyone know what happens to back issues when a magazine goes under? I would assume that they have a small stockpile of them. I do appreciate some older issues of the magazine that I have (before they were all lifestyle and drugs sh*t) and I'm wondering who would I contact now to get other back issues? I suppose someone at IPC would handle it - anyone have a contact? I'm a media slut MEK Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom 4.co.uk Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org, Cyclone 07/03/03 11:18 AM Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:15 PM To: Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) In contrast, rock titles, such as New Musical Express and Kerrang!, and magazines aimed at older music fans, such as Mojo and Uncut, have enjoyed circulation increases. I think there is your answer. The clubbers are growing up and are getting tired of the same old dance music - or at least the way it's presented. I wonder how XLR8R, URB, and other US mags are doing? There still seems to be a lot of kids still learning and listening to dance music in the US as opposed to the UK? correct me if I'm wrong please. MEK Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cyclone Wehner rdings.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/03/03 02:43 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
I think it is true to say that there has been a downturn in the popularity of dance music over the last couple of years or so. Just look at some of the mainstream club brands like Cream and Ministy. I know for a fact that these 'brands' are now looking at emerging markets like Eastern Europe and parts of Aisa while massively scaling down there operations in the UK (not a bad thing for the smaller club promoters!). Regarding clubbers 'growing up' and getting tired I don't necessarily agree. I guess I might be a little less interested in the 'clubbing scene' as presented in magazines and maybe don't go out as much as I used to - my appetite for the music has not diminished! I personally do not buy dance magazines unless I hear that there is particular article that I might be interested in. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 16:15 To: Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) In contrast, rock titles, such as New Musical Express and Kerrang!, and magazines aimed at older music fans, such as Mojo and Uncut, have enjoyed circulation increases. I think there is your answer. The clubbers are growing up and are getting tired of the same old dance music - or at least the way it's presented. I wonder how XLR8R, URB, and other US mags are doing? There still seems to be a lot of kids still learning and listening to dance music in the US as opposed to the UK? correct me if I'm wrong please. MEK Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cyclone Wehner rdings.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/03/03 02:43 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) recent 3 chairs record
Calm yourself young man (and open your wallet a bit wider, I'm afraid) Both Detroit Beatdown and The Three Chairs All Over EP still widely available in (good) Old Europe: Two shops I trust: http://www.rushhour.nl/ (still has copies of 3 Chairs) http://www.sisterray.co.uk/index.htm (Still has Detroit Beatdown - ok, I admit this one's getting more difficult to find, but I have seen it out and about over the last few weeks.) k -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) recent 3 chairs record i cant find this either. WTF? anyone got any ideas where i can find it? anyone know what US distributors picked this or that detroit beatdown up? tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
Ah yes it was - thanks Robert Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.co.uk cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) 07/03/03 11:32 AM I think this was meant for the list! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:30 PM To: Robert Taylor Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) that's true - does anyone know what happens to back issues when a magazine goes under? I would assume that they have a small stockpile of them. I do appreciate some older issues of the magazine that I have (before they were all lifestyle and drugs sh*t) and I'm wondering who would I contact now to get other back issues? I suppose someone at IPC would handle it - anyone have a contact? I'm a media slut MEK Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom 4.co.uk Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org, Cyclone 07/03/03 11:18 AM Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:15 PM To: Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) In contrast, rock titles, such as New Musical Express and Kerrang!, and magazines aimed at older music fans, such as Mojo and Uncut, have enjoyed circulation increases. I think there is your answer. The clubbers are growing up and are getting tired of the same old dance music - or at least the way it's presented. I wonder how XLR8R, URB, and other US mags are doing? There still seems to be a lot of kids still learning and listening to dance music in the US as opposed to the UK? correct me if I'm wrong please. MEK Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cyclone Wehner rdings.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 07/03/03 02:43 AMcc: Subject: Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Yeah, that's a surprise. Wonder why? What's the talk? Full story: http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,988334,00.html Cheers, Tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) North Sea Jazz next weekend
it's North Sea Jazz next weekend [http://www.northseajazz.nl] and if it wasn't as damn expensive as it is, i'd be there 3 days in a row. line-up looks ace! donnie, dwele, common, the roots, and c2 and recloose who apparently scheduled several gigs in the uk arounf their saturday nsj performance. anyone know if i can catch any of these artists somewhere in a more affordable place in holland over the weekend? jurren _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
I guess I might be a little less interested in the 'clubbing scene' as presented in magazines and maybe don't go out as much as I used to - my appetite for the music has not diminished! yes, that's a better way to put it. MEK
RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
Stinky's is pretty damned amazing. It's spread over three floors, the middle floor having a balcony which overlooks the bottom, and the top one having a glass floor so that you can stand on the top floor and look between your feet down to the bottom. Don't take too many drugs and do this (or maybe do... whatever). very nice inside, generally tastefully decorated as far as clubs go whilst managing to be competely unpretentious, and although I never made it out last time I was there I'm told that the basement opens out into a garden, which might well put the icing on the cake. Basically it seemed to me to be the best after-hours venue I'd ever been in (and it's quite cheap as well). Although I should add that I was quite battered when I was last there, so if it turns out to be bollocks then you have my apologies... -s I think you guys might know that venue (Stinky's Peephouse) Robin. What's the verdict? i'm ashamed to admit it but i don't know (i hear good things tho)... [EMAIL PROTECTED] might pipe up now? or dan moore? robin... _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
(313) OT: need assistance with Record label legalities/song licensing l aws
If anyone that is very familiar with song licensing and record label legalities could spare a few minutes to discuss something privately, I'd be indebted... Dennis Donohue
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
I'd definitely agree - I remember when the first edition of Muzik came out, and they were giving copies away at the 1995 Tribal Gathering. By that time I'd kind of stopped reading magazines for information on the music *I* liked, but occasionally bought magazines like Muzik or Mixmag for the sake of gauging the state of the larger dance and electronic music scenes. As the years went by, however, the amount of music talk on the internet grew to the extent that I could get a feel for the state of the wider dance/electronic music scene more quickly, more cheaply and more effectively than I could from buying the mass-circulation magazines. That combined with the general descent of these mags into lifestyle/drugs coverage eventually led to me not buying any magazines whatsoever. I *did* buy a copy of Sleaze Nation earlier this year, but only because I was in it! :) From over-the-shoulder readings on trains and tubes, though, I get the sense that Jockey Slut is the only one of the mass-circulation magazines in the UK that's stuck to its guns. Magazines like NME and Mojo aren't just getting readers from older ex-dance-music people, though, I don't think - rock music as a whole is being pushed by the majors as the hot new thing and so I wouldn't underestimate the amount of 17 or 18-year-olds who are buying them, and who probably see electronic/dance music as a bit of an old person's thing! (I have certain opinions on this whole rock-renaissance thing too, which I won't bother to share with this list ;) Brendan -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis.
RE: (313) Good girls
I can clarify some points some french people have bootleged a record with good girls and stevie knows on it (with also 2 others d.may hot tracks on it) that sucks for the artists if the originals are still in print... what were the other tracks? And didn't Designer Music vol. 1 get re-issued awhile back anyway? OR am I crazy but I thought it did. Good girlz and stevie knows are not part of Designer Music vol. 1, because carl craig didn't pay the royalties to the good men (sample from give it up) : so good girlz was already a kind of bootleg ! As far as I know, carl says he has lost the tape/dat so they wouldn't be re-issued; only derrick/juan play this record. And the other tracks are old house records fom the 80's on dead labels so they will never be repressed for 500 guys or less wanting this record. Like there's that bootleg of detroit classics I saw in the shop, and I thought most or all of those tracks are still very much in print on transmat, metroplex, etc. I don't understand why someone would buy it given you could get the official 12 for $6 or so, better mastering, supporting the original label, etc. As it's not repressed i thought I could never put my hands on it, so i bought it. I will NEVER, NEVER buy a bootleg of metroplex, UR, transmat ... because I know these labels (i love) are still alive. But this one is a bootleg of a bootleg so. Strangely enough Dept. -- There's also a bootleg of that cover terrible version of Knights of The Jaguar floating around with 3 other random tracks on it (one of them by James Brown). Why the hell anyone would want the Sony version of Jaguar baffles me, on a crappy bootleg no less. I forgot the name of the boot, it's something like About Time vol. 2 or something like that. Full disclosure: I'm not POSITIVE it was the Sony version, but it sure as hell wasn't the Rolando version on UR, it was terrible. But it was definitely trying to recreate the exact song with different-yet-similar percussion, synths and melodies. According to the man who sold it to me (for 35 $), juan and derrick (whom this record was given to) have said that the sound is better than the original. Of course a salesman is going to tell you whatever he has to get you to buy a bootleg for $35... I would tend to doubt it... the artists are going to have the masters afterall, not the bootlegger. :P But I guess anyone can cut a record louder if that's what you mean. Not louder but remastered. peace mat PS : is someone know where i can buy the glen undreground/ dj sneak (?) mix bootleg of midnight express chase with donna summer i fell love ? -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr
Re: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk?
- Original Message - From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: (313) carl craig in leeds,uk? Stinky's is pretty damned amazing. It's spread over three floors, the middle floor having a balcony which overlooks the bottom, and the top one having a glass floor so that you can stand on the top floor and look between your feet down to the bottom. or from the room below this you can look up ladies skirts. (if you're that way inclined, which i am)
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
Kids in Sheffield call clubbers Sweaties :) and we have seen a big decline in numbers coming out to nights for the following reasons: 1. Lots of new late bars till 2.30am, that are free and usually have a student playing on the decks for beer or pocket money. 2. Dresscodes up here really p*ss people off, one club has a 40 point code! 3. Costs too much, DJ and there agents haven't dropped prices, so soon they will have nowhere left to play as all the small places go to the wall along with the big clubs. 4. No one in dance music has much to say, who wants someone their Dad's age as a hero? 5. Cost of drinks in clubs (£4 a can anyone) 6. Too many nights/clubs all fight for the same people 7. High level of visible security, people refuse to go nuts when they feel like they are being watched by a neo-nazi ape. 8. It not new anymore 9. Same old line ups. 10. It now seen as mainstream... md 3/7/03 3:40 PM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd definitely agree - I remember when the first edition of Muzik came out, and they were giving copies away at the 1995 Tribal Gathering. By that time I'd kind of stopped reading magazines for information on the music *I* liked, but occasionally bought magazines like Muzik or Mixmag for the sake of gauging the state of the larger dance and electronic music scenes. As the years went by, however, the amount of music talk on the internet grew to the extent that I could get a feel for the state of the wider dance/electronic music scene more quickly, more cheaply and more effectively than I could from buying the mass-circulation magazines. That combined with the general descent of these mags into lifestyle/drugs coverage eventually led to me not buying any magazines whatsoever. I *did* buy a copy of Sleaze Nation earlier this year, but only because I was in it! :) From over-the-shoulder readings on trains and tubes, though, I get the sense that Jockey Slut is the only one of the mass-circulation magazines in the UK that's stuck to its guns. Magazines like NME and Mojo aren't just getting readers from older ex-dance-music people, though, I don't think - rock music as a whole is being pushed by the majors as the hot new thing and so I wouldn't underestimate the amount of 17 or 18-year-olds who are buying them, and who probably see electronic/dance music as a bit of an old person's thing! (I have certain opinions on this whole rock-renaissance thing too, which I won't bother to share with this list ;) Brendan -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis.
RE: (313) Good girls
is someone know where i can buy the glen undreground/ dj sneak (?) mix bootleg of midnight express chase with donna summer i fell love ? There's a Sneak remix of 'The Chase', I got mine from Hard To Find Records. There's also a bootleg of Donna Summer called 'I Feel Dub' - can't remember where I got that (sorry.) G. Mathieu Roussotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/07/2003 16:57:45 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: (313) Good girls I can clarify some points some french people have bootleged a record with good girls and stevie knows on it (with also 2 others d.may hot tracks on it) that sucks for the artists if the originals are still in print... what were the other tracks? And didn't Designer Music vol. 1 get re-issued awhile back anyway? OR am I crazy but I thought it did. Good girlz and stevie knows are not part of Designer Music vol. 1, because carl craig didn't pay the royalties to the good men (sample from give it up) : so good girlz was already a kind of bootleg ! As far as I know, carl says he has lost the tape/dat so they wouldn't be re-issued; only derrick/juan play this record. And the other tracks are old house records fom the 80's on dead labels so they will never be repressed for 500 guys or less wanting this record. Like there's that bootleg of detroit classics I saw in the shop, and I thought most or all of those tracks are still very much in print on transmat, metroplex, etc. I don't understand why someone would buy it given you could get the official 12 for $6 or so, better mastering, supporting the original label, etc. As it's not repressed i thought I could never put my hands on it, so i bought it. I will NEVER, NEVER buy a bootleg of metroplex, UR, transmat ... because I know these labels (i love) are still alive. But this one is a bootleg of a bootleg so. Strangely enough Dept. -- There's also a bootleg of that cover terrible version of Knights of The Jaguar floating around with 3 other random tracks on it (one of them by James Brown). Why the hell anyone would want the Sony version of Jaguar baffles me, on a crappy bootleg no less. I forgot the name of the boot, it's something like About Time vol. 2 or something like that. Full disclosure: I'm not POSITIVE it was the Sony version, but it sure as hell wasn't the Rolando version on UR, it was terrible. But it was definitely trying to recreate the exact song with different-yet-similar percussion, synths and melodies. According to the man who sold it to me (for 35 $), juan and derrick (whom this record was given to) have said that the sound is better than the original. Of course a salesman is going to tell you whatever he has to get you to buy a bootleg for $35... I would tend to doubt it... the artists are going to have the masters afterall, not the bootlegger. :P But I guess anyone can cut a record louder if that's what you mean. Not louder but remastered. peace mat PS : is someone know where i can buy the glen undreground/ dj sneak (?) mix bootleg of midnight express chase with donna summer i fell love ? -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss by any other name?
The REAL Mxyzptlk wrote: Here's his discog (courtesy Thaddi Hermann) : [snip] :) kewl thanks lisa
RE: (313) recent 3 chairs record
Submerge appears to still have it in stock... |-Original Message- |From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:19 AM |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) recent 3 chairs record | | |i cant find this either. WTF? anyone got any ideas where i can |find it? anyone know what US distributors picked this or that |detroit beatdown up? | |tom | | |andythepooh.com | | | | |
(313) netcasts
sorry, i know this has been asked and answered 55983859012 times on this list, but what are some good netcasts i can tune into for the next couple of hours? fancy connection at work + boring brainless busywork = need for some tunes!
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
-- Original Message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. No one in dance music has much to say, who wants someone their Dad's age as a hero? most of my heroes are around my dad's age, or older. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) netcasts
Not strictly netcasts (whatever they are) these are my favourite work listening sites (although I have always found it difficult to find any 313-related MP3 sites, things like Paxahau just have Real Audio): http://www.mixoftheweek.com/ - huge variety of genres all mixed up - some 313 music in there occasionally too http://www.globaldarkness.com/mix/mixes.htm - graet electro/italo disco mixes http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/ - deep dubby techno - excellent mixes Then of course there's this: http://www.deephousepage.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) netcasts sorry, i know this has been asked and answered 55983859012 times on this list, but what are some good netcasts i can tune into for the next couple of hours? fancy connection at work + boring brainless busywork = need for some tunes! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
4. No one in dance music has much to say, who wants someone their Dad's age as a hero? most of my heroes are around my dad's age, or older. I'm guessing that your not 15-20yrs old Md
Re: (313) netcasts
www.betalounge.com www.dublab.com www.groovetech.com for independent unreleased italian electronics: http://www.wavengine.com/ - you gotta register i think otherwise from live365.com and shoutcast.com you can reach many streaming things ciao doris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: (313) netcasts sorry, i know this has been asked and answered 55983859012 times on this list, but what are some good netcasts i can tune into for the next couple of hours? fancy connection at work + boring brainless busywork = need for some tunes!
RE: (313) netcasts
thanks for all the speedy replies, whoo!! i'm wondering though if there's anything more like a radio station than a mix... only not on the radio 'cause i work in a dungeon and get sh*t for reception. i'm getting a little tired of *mixes* per se (looknig for something that jumps genres and moods a little more erraticly), so some suggestions like the cybernetic live365 stream (which is rocking me right now) would be cool... thanks again! On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Robert Taylor wrote: Not strictly netcasts (whatever they are) these are my favourite work listening sites (although I have always found it difficult to find any 313-related MP3 sites, things like Paxahau just have Real Audio): http://www.mixoftheweek.com/ - huge variety of genres all mixed up - some 313 music in there occasionally too http://www.globaldarkness.com/mix/mixes.htm - graet electro/italo disco mixes http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/ - deep dubby techno - excellent mixes Then of course there's this: http://www.deephousepage.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) netcasts sorry, i know this has been asked and answered 55983859012 times on this list, but what are some good netcasts i can tune into for the next couple of hours? fancy connection at work + boring brainless busywork = need for some tunes! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
-- Original Message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. No one in dance music has much to say, who wants someone their Dad's age as a hero? most of my heroes are around my dad's age, or older. I'm guessing that your not 15-20yrs old close though, im 23. and my heroes have been consistant for a couple years now: derrick may, drexciya, sun ra, lee perry, james brown, KLF, george clinton, etc. granted, i dont usually look to dance musicians for great political or social insight (with a few exceptions), but they usually have alot to say about the music that has influenced them thats of great interest to me. i actually liked reading muzik quite abit, despite the fact that my collection of music usually doesnt include much if any of what they covered. i also enjoy DJ, and sometimes even mixmag or ministry. they are just fun magazines. good music mags are harder to come by but worth it. i cant stress how fantastic i think straight no chaser is. as a matter of fact, theyve had 2 consecutive detroit cover stories. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) netcasts
313 list member Dave Walker's Freeform Goodness station on live 365 is IMHO as good as it gets... cross genres, from Drexciya to Dexy's Midnight Runners... but it's all quality. Give it an hour I predict you'll be hooked. http://www.live365.com/stations/20005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:24 AM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) netcasts thanks for all the speedy replies, whoo!! i'm wondering though if there's anything more like a radio station than a mix... only not on the radio 'cause i work in a dungeon and get sh*t for reception. i'm getting a little tired of *mixes* per se (looknig for something that jumps genres and moods a little more erraticly), so some suggestions like the cybernetic live365 stream (which is rocking me right now) would be cool... thanks again! On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Robert Taylor wrote: Not strictly netcasts (whatever they are) these are my favourite work listening sites (although I have always found it difficult to find any 313-related MP3 sites, things like Paxahau just have Real Audio): http://www.mixoftheweek.com/ - huge variety of genres all mixed up - some 313 music in there occasionally too http://www.globaldarkness.com/mix/mixes.htm - graet electro/italo disco mixes http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/ - deep dubby techno - excellent mixes Then of course there's this: http://www.deephousepage.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) netcasts sorry, i know this has been asked and answered 55983859012 times on this list, but what are some good netcasts i can tune into for the next couple of hours? fancy connection at work + boring brainless busywork = need for some tunes! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30
Hey all, Thought I would rap in about Richie Hawtin's Control party in TO that went off this past Monday. This is a bit of a long post so bear with me, but I need to get it all out!... I don't know what Richie's been doing at his parties outside of Canada lately but I gotta say I was, well, blown away for a number of reasons. Some good, others not so good. I mean as per usual his set was bass-booming fantastic with all the best possible tricks to tweak the mind (I danced my ass off and had a huge smile on my face the whole time), he brought in an amazing sound system perfectly tailored for his signature brand of techno, and Magda also gets high points for her set that led beautifully into Mr. Richie Rich's even though she had to deal with some weird technical difficulties about midway through that prompted help from The Man himself... But... First of all it was supposed to be a Control party which, in my recollection, is usually designed aesthetically to be the minimalist of the minimal with basically red light blaring into darkened dancing crowds to the wee hours. But, this time around...holy s#t...not a chance. There was an overdose of cigarette marketing right down to the bar napkins, bad swirling strobe lighting (some advertising said company), cheesy girls decked out in neon mesh skimpies in the audience (obviously hired by the cigarette company due to the cigarette packs hanging off of various fleshy body parts), and so much event promotional material everywhere (its some new crew here called The Hump) including stamped onto my hand for entry and on the shirt backs of half the audience, that you could choke on it. I mean call me old fashioned, but when DEMF started putting cars on display in the middle of the festival I decided it wasn't for me anymore. I like the parties that make it or break it without corporate sponsorship and, hell if they NEED to have it (i.e. the large festivals) then at least they don't make me feel like I'm at an office party for my favourite cigarette co. when I'm out to see someone like Richie. What the heck is going on? Does anyone else find this kind of thing upsetting? Or am I just suddenly waking up to this?... I mean one of the friends I was with had more people tell him That The Hump throws such great parties than even knew who Richie was when he tried to talk with them about his music!!! When I saw Richie's New Years party in Detroit in 1999 there was definitely mesh everywhere but it was on the walls - not on breast- implanted half naked tarts. And that party made me feel like I was getting a secret ticket to the mind of Richie, not Hugh Hefner's! SO all of this led me to the gut dropping feeling that Richie's salary has gotten so big that he's willing to let any crap into his parties just to make his dough. Made me pretty annoyed and somewhat sad to be honest, because Richie has been a HUGE influence on me musically, I mean HUGE. And I figured he'd have more respect for his audience than that...So I actually started to consider whether I would pay to see another show of his if that was what I'd be in for. Anyway, has anyone else found this to be the case recently at his parties? Or just found this trend to be, well, downright lame? Still loving the minimal underground (where I can find it), Berg
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30
i think you're confusing a richie party (in detroit) with a party where richie plays (elsewhere). there's a very big difference, even if he has the opportunity to influence some aspects of the latter. also Control in this respect has more to do with the performance. see the front page of the m-nus site. - Original Message - From: Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30 Hey all, Thought I would rap in about Richie Hawtin's Control party in TO that went off this past Monday. This is a bit of a long post so bear with me, but I need to get it all out!... I don't know what Richie's been doing at his parties outside of Canada lately but I gotta say I was, well, blown away for a number of reasons. Some good, others not so good. I mean as per usual his set was bass-booming fantastic with all the best possible tricks to tweak the mind (I danced my ass off and had a huge smile on my face the whole time), he brought in an amazing sound system perfectly tailored for his signature brand of techno, and Magda also gets high points for her set that led beautifully into Mr. Richie Rich's even though she had to deal with some weird technical difficulties about midway through that prompted help from The Man himself... But... First of all it was supposed to be a Control party which, in my recollection, is usually designed aesthetically to be the minimalist of the minimal with basically red light blaring into darkened dancing crowds to the wee hours. But, this time around...holy s#t...not a chance. There was an overdose of cigarette marketing right down to the bar napkins, bad swirling strobe lighting (some advertising said company), cheesy girls decked out in neon mesh skimpies in the audience (obviously hired by the cigarette company due to the cigarette packs hanging off of various fleshy body parts), and so much event promotional material everywhere (its some new crew here called The Hump) including stamped onto my hand for entry and on the shirt backs of half the audience, that you could choke on it. I mean call me old fashioned, but when DEMF started putting cars on display in the middle of the festival I decided it wasn't for me anymore. I like the parties that make it or break it without corporate sponsorship and, hell if they NEED to have it (i.e. the large festivals) then at least they don't make me feel like I'm at an office party for my favourite cigarette co. when I'm out to see someone like Richie. What the heck is going on? Does anyone else find this kind of thing upsetting? Or am I just suddenly waking up to this?... I mean one of the friends I was with had more people tell him That The Hump throws such great parties than even knew who Richie was when he tried to talk with them about his music!!! When I saw Richie's New Years party in Detroit in 1999 there was definitely mesh everywhere but it was on the walls - not on breast- implanted half naked tarts. And that party made me feel like I was getting a secret ticket to the mind of Richie, not Hugh Hefner's! SO all of this led me to the gut dropping feeling that Richie's salary has gotten so big that he's willing to let any crap into his parties just to make his dough. Made me pretty annoyed and somewhat sad to be honest, because Richie has been a HUGE influence on me musically, I mean HUGE. And I figured he'd have more respect for his audience than that...So I actually started to consider whether I would pay to see another show of his if that was what I'd be in for. Anyway, has anyone else found this to be the case recently at his parties? Or just found this trend to be, well, downright lame? Still loving the minimal underground (where I can find it), Berg
Re: (313) Good girls
The GU remix of The Chase was b/w the Sneak Pulp Fiction song. The record was called 'Love Pulp', and I believe it was released by Cajual as a White, for obvious reasons. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30
And that party made me feel like I was getting a secret ticket to the mind of Richie, not Hugh Hefner's! You've just never been outback in the patio garden of Richie's mind - huge pool shaped like a well you you just have to see it to believe it. MEK
(313) Great Lakes records
anyone have a link to a website for them? MEK
Re: (313) john rocca
I don´t know if the outland was owned by dj dimirti.. but dimitri did some really great sets in those days. Cheers, Maarten Outland was owned by Pieter who now has a studio in thailand ! The Amsterdam connection involved Dimitri as well even more that Derrick shows in the interview anyway I also didn't know this 12 was produced by Carl and Derrick The Piano tracks with eq-ing rules have too dig that one up it'll brings back some nice memories for shure RAW
FW: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30
Ha! Maybe you can get me in - incognito! Looks like I have lot more to learn about Richie than I thought! In response to Garrett's post, It's not confusion so much as curiosity...I just don't get it - maybe its a Toronto (elsewhere) vs Detroit thing...but I just think Richie, well, he's been doing this for so long now would have more of a say. I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have known that The Hump and Camel cigarettes were going to hang their bright and shiny logos above his head onstage right next to an equally bright sized Plastikman and not been able to veto that if he wanted. I mean aren't we there for him and his music? But, that said maybe it was a Hump ambush in the Toronto jungle and Rich never knew what hit him... I guess I'm just not hip to all the corporate b.s. It makes things feel less about the music, and for me that's what its all about :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 3, 2003 2:46 PM To: Erin Berg (WPL) Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30 And that party made me feel like I was getting a secret ticket to the mind of Richie, not Hugh Hefner's! You've just never been outback in the patio garden of Richie's mind - huge pool shaped like a well you you just have to see it to believe it. MEK
Re: FW: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30
It's not his party - he's been hired to play it basically. It wasn't M_NUS presents Richie Hawtin was it? It was The Hump presents Richie Hawtin. There's a difference - he's been hired to be the DJ and not much more than that. If he didn't like what they were doing he could have left but I'm sure there were contracts signed and if he didn't follow through with it - the corporate sponsor could have sued him. So, the easiest thing for him to do was probably just close his eyes to the cheezy crap and the naked chicks (yeah, right) and play the best he could, get paid, and go home. As far as vetoing anything - there are a million more Djs out there that wouldn't have a problem with big logos and crap who would gladly step up to take his place. I doubt he had much choice. MEK Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org .ca cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/03/03 02:06 PMSubject: FW: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30 Ha! Maybe you can get me in - incognito! Looks like I have lot more to learn about Richie than I thought! In response to Garrett's post, It's not confusion so much as curiosity...I just don't get it - maybe its a Toronto (elsewhere) vs Detroit thing...but I just think Richie, well, he's been doing this for so long now would have more of a say. I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have known that The Hump and Camel cigarettes were going to hang their bright and shiny logos above his head onstage right next to an equally bright sized Plastikman and not been able to veto that if he wanted. I mean aren't we there for him and his music? But, that said maybe it was a Hump ambush in the Toronto jungle and Rich never knew what hit him... I guess I'm just not hip to all the corporate b.s. It makes things feel less about the music, and for me that's what its all about :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 3, 2003 2:46 PM To: Erin Berg (WPL) Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin in Toronto June 30 And that party made me feel like I was getting a secret ticket to the mind of Richie, not Hugh Hefner's! You've just never been outback in the patio garden of Richie's mind - huge pool shaped like a well you you just have to see it to believe it. MEK
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
In the US I would say, there isn't a rock renaissance so much as, rock has ALWAYS and maybe always will be the big thing for kids, with dance music for many being just a passing fad. Kids just have a thing with those guitars, maybe its the phallic imagery that they like so much. Kids here also feel a need to rebel against something (usually their rebellion amounts to nothing more than emotional rebellion against their mommy and daddy.) Anyway, rock music is specifically marketed to them in order to manipulate their adolescent feelings and this has been going on for years, whatever the particular brand of rock is that gets trendy. The sensibilities of electronic music don't really tap into this and don't necessarily promote the right kind of images to make kids feel like they are rebelling against something. It is all rather superficial, honestly. I mean look at the hysteria that the Beatles invasion caused here way back... (and this is not commenting for better or worse on their music, just what they represented to US youth culture). /dave -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:40:02 +0100 From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org I'd definitely agree - I remember when the first edition of Muzik came out, and they were giving copies away at the 1995 Tribal Gathering. By that time I'd kind of stopped reading magazines for information on the music *I* liked, but occasionally bought magazines like Muzik or Mixmag for the sake of gauging the state of the larger dance and electronic music scenes. As the years went by, however, the amount of music talk on the internet grew to the extent that I could get a feel for the state of the wider dance/electronic music scene more quickly, more cheaply and more effectively than I could from buying the mass-circulation magazines. That combined with the general descent of these mags into lifestyle/drugs coverage eventually led to me not buying any magazines whatsoever. I *did* buy a copy of Sleaze Nation earlier this year, but only because I was in it! :) From over-the-shoulder readings on trains and tubes, though, I get the sense that Jockey Slut is the only one of the mass-circulation magazines in the UK that's stuck to its guns. Magazines like NME and Mojo aren't just getting readers from older ex-dance-music people, though, I don't think - rock music as a whole is being pushed by the majors as the hot new thing and so I wouldn't underestimate the amount of 17 or 18-year-olds who are buying them, and who probably see electronic/dance music as a bit of an old person's thing! (I have certain opinions on this whole rock-renaissance thing too, which I won't bother to share with this list ;) Brendan -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis.
RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine)
The sensibilities of electronic music don't really tap into this and don't necessarily promote the right kind of images to make kids feel like they are rebelling against something. Especially with the end of illegal raves and warehouse parties across most of the US. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 lnoize.com 313@hyperreal.org cc: 07/03/03 02:16 PMSubject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) In the US I would say, there isn't a rock renaissance so much as, rock has ALWAYS and maybe always will be the big thing for kids, with dance music for many being just a passing fad. Kids just have a thing with those guitars, maybe its the phallic imagery that they like so much. Kids here also feel a need to rebel against something (usually their rebellion amounts to nothing more than emotional rebellion against their mommy and daddy.) Anyway, rock music is specifically marketed to them in order to manipulate their adolescent feelings and this has been going on for years, whatever the particular brand of rock is that gets trendy. The sensibilities of electronic music don't really tap into this and don't necessarily promote the right kind of images to make kids feel like they are rebelling against something. It is all rather superficial, honestly. I mean look at the hysteria that the Beatles invasion caused here way back... (and this is not commenting for better or worse on their music, just what they represented to US youth culture). /dave -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:40:02 +0100 From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org I'd definitely agree - I remember when the first edition of Muzik came out, and they were giving copies away at the 1995 Tribal Gathering. By that time I'd kind of stopped reading magazines for information on the music *I* liked, but occasionally bought magazines like Muzik or Mixmag for the sake of gauging the state of the larger dance and electronic music scenes. As the years went by, however, the amount of music talk on the internet grew to the extent that I could get a feel for the state of the wider dance/electronic music scene more quickly, more cheaply and more effectively than I could from buying the mass-circulation magazines. That combined with the general descent of these mags into lifestyle/drugs coverage eventually led to me not buying any magazines whatsoever. I *did* buy a copy of Sleaze Nation earlier this year, but only because I was in it! :) From over-the-shoulder readings on trains and tubes, though, I get the sense that Jockey Slut is the only one of the mass-circulation magazines in the UK that's stuck to its guns. Magazines like NME and Mojo aren't just getting readers from older ex-dance-music people, though, I don't think - rock music as a whole is being pushed by the majors as the hot new thing and so I wouldn't underestimate the amount of 17 or 18-year-olds who are buying them, and who probably see electronic/dance music as a bit of an old person's thing! (I have certain opinions on this whole rock-renaissance thing too, which I won't bother to share with this list ;) Brendan -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill Cc: 313; Cyclone Wehner Subject: RE: (313) Muzik (was 7 Magazine) I think the net and lists like this one have taken over as the source for information on dance music. The mags did not realise this and thought they had to include more and more lifestyle articles at the expense of record reviews and their sales slumped even further, hence the crisis.
(313) R.A..N.D. Musik Homepage???
Hello folks! Please can anybody give me the address of the homepage (if existing) of the R.A.N.D. Musik posse??? Thanx in advance, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de HEADSPACE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. °°°
Re: (313) R.A..N.D. Musik Homepage???
Please can anybody give me the address of the homepage (if existing) of the R.A.N.D. Musik posse??? There's not much there, but here it is: http://www.randmuzik.de/ Cheers, Tom
Re: (313) netcasts
www.staticbeats.com and direct link to webcast http://www.staticbeats.com/webcast/play.pls not strictly detroit techno, but if you dig eclectic crossover stuff, 'tis very worthy. a mish mash of 313, idm, chillout, breaks, illbient, trip-hop, minimalistic techno and sorts. very good selection of artists and tracks, known and underground, only 56kbps though. But hey, lo-fi makes sound just better. ,) - Sogax, Deliciound, www.deliciound.net, tower 313
(313) five days off in Berlin
I'm off to Berlin next week to attend Musik Maschine and staying for the whole Love Parade weekend. I wondered if any Berliners on the list might be able to suggest some cool things to see and do while I'm in town - not to mention any parties they could recommend. I have visited the city before so I'm maybe looking for slightly less obvious suggestions than, say, Tresor and the Brandenburg Gate! :-) Markets, music and clothes shops, interesting districts, monuments, exhibitions, bars, restaurants etc etc, all and any suggestions will be gratefully received. Cheers! TOM
(313) track id HERE COMES THE SUN
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Re: (313) track id HERE COMES THE SUN
sorry. i thought that would be enough. doh! a house track...with a rap thrown in. Here comes the sun, here comes the sun, here comes the light...
Re: (313) five days off in Berlin
Well, I'm no local. But I have been in Berlin for a little over a month now and I've found some nice spots, mostly restaurants within easy walking distance of my apartment. Others with more experience may have comments on these. Crossanterie: This is a tiny French bakery/coffee shop on Pannierstrasse in Kreuzberg that makes a killer baguette. Markthalle: Pucklerstrasse (the U has an umlaut but I don't feel like looking up the code for it...) in Kreuzberg. You probably know this place already since all the trendy techno heads eat there regularly, and the hotel in the back houses artists who are in town to play at Tresor. Excellent German food, nice atmosphere. Oranienstrasse in Kreuzberg. Pretty much the whole street is a mix of cool shops, bars, and restaurants. This street is also the home of SO 36, a club that does mostly rock and punk shows but has a nice techno night on Mondays. I played there in January and the crowd was really fantastic. Rissani and Baraka: The two best falafel joints I've eaten at in Berlin (and I've eaten at a LOT). Luckily, they're right around the corner from each other which makes the comparison that much easier. I can't remember the streets right now but they're both in Kreuzberg, near the Goerlitzer Banhof U-Bahn stop. Hope this helps, -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com Tom Robbins/Magic Feet wrote: I'm off to Berlin next week to attend Musik Maschine and staying for the whole Love Parade weekend. I wondered if any Berliners on the list might be able to suggest some cool things to see and do while I'm in town - not to mention any parties they could recommend. I have visited the city before so I'm maybe looking for slightly less obvious suggestions than, say, Tresor and the Brandenburg Gate! :-) Markets, music and clothes shops, interesting districts, monuments, exhibitions, bars, restaurants etc etc, all and any suggestions will be gratefully received. Cheers! TOM
Re: (313) Good girls
'good girls' and 'stevie knows' together with two other remixes were released in '95? as part of the planet e subscription. you could sign up for a planet e subscription, by paying $100 in exchange for a couple of records, and some other goodies. the designer music 12 was one of 'm. limited to a couple hundred copies, and ONLY available through the subscription, [or visiting the planet e stand at demf 2000 or 2001.] copies show up on ebay occasionally, and change hands for ebay prices. it was only a matter of time for the bootleg to show up. i've seen copies of that rework of donna summer's 'i feel love' acouple of months ago, and i think they were done by glenn underground rather then dj sneak, but i could be wrong. rushhour had them, so you might want to send them an e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] just to keep erik busy]. jurren _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
